Opera Queensland's audition today went well, they asked for 2 songs after I opened with Sarastro because they couldn't decide which they wanted to hear 😅
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Opera Queensland's audition today went well, they asked for 2 songs after I opened with Sarastro because they couldn't decide which they wanted to hear 😅

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why do 80% of all sarastro costumes look like some shit asgore undertale would wear
Opera/ Frasier hot take: Frasier and Lilith are Sarastro and the Queen of the Night (does that make Freddy Pamina?)
i don’t want the queen of the night and sarastro to be a divorced couple or have like psychosexual energy going on because while their hate is delicious i think it shouldn’t have sexual tones going on. however the way i would describe my dynamic with them is far more insane. i want them to be chained at the foot together like the birds in rio (2011). i want them to be put in a dual saw trap where they can only both get out if the other also lives. Shit like this
"The Magic Flute": The sternness of Sarastro and his followers
It's portrayed as ideal and it is ideal
It's morally ambiguous and it's supposed to be
It was meant to be seen as ideal, but values have changed
It's ideal for a ruling class – leaders need strength –but not for ordinary folk
It's bad writing and it always was – this opera's value is in its music
"Sternness" is the best word I can think of to describe the most troubling quality of Sarastro and his followers. Even beyond their misogyny, or the fact that they have slaves, the difficult aspect of these supposedly wise, benevolent men is how rigid and sometimes ruthless they can be in the name of the greater good. Sarastro has kidnapped Pamina, and when she speaks longingly of her mother in Act I, he responds with stern shutdowns instead of compassion. He sentences Monostatos to seventy-seven blows on the soles of his feet (although some of us might argue that for sexual harassment and death threats toward a young girl, this is a light sentence). He lets Pamina suffer suicidal anguish by not telling her about Tamino's trial of silence and letting her misunderstand his refusal to speak, all for the sake of testing Tamino's strength to resist her pleas. His would-be initiates face trials that could genuinely cost them their lives, and when one priest expresses concern about this fact, he simply, calmly responds that if they die, then they'll be in paradise with the gods. Nor do his priests have much patience for any man less "manly" than themselves, as we see from their impatience with Papageno's fear and vulnerability. Even our hero, Tamino, takes on this sternness after he chooses to become one of them, parroting their misogyny in the Act II quintet, snapping disdainfully at Papageno's weakness instead of showing him any empathy, and of course withdrawing from Pamina and letting her suffer for the sake of passing the trials and proving his "manhood."
In my novel An Eternal Crown, I've slightly toned down this sternness in Anaia and her Sisterhood, yet I also explain it by giving them a traumatic backstory of persecution that isn't found in the opera. @leporellian's novel Song of the Sky takes a different approach and evidently keeps Sarastro's sternness intact, but portrays him in a more negative light. But of course these two yet-to-be-published novels are retellings, not the opera itself.
I could analyze this issue from every possible angle, and someday I think I will. But for now I'd like to know what other people think. Is there nothing wrong with this sternness? Is it simply unshakable devotion to their ideals, combined with the fact that sometimes temporary pain and dangerous risks are necessary for greater happiness in the long run? Or are we supposed to view these men as flawed, just "a lighter shade of gray" than the Queen and her Ladies, and see Tamino and Pamina as finding a better way of life in the end? Or are Sarastro and his followers an ideal of their time and place that just doesn't hold up for us today? Or was Emanuel Schikaneder just a mediocre writer, with only Mozart's music saving his work from the dustbin of history? I'd like to know what people think!

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Do you interpret Sarastro as being Pamina’s father?
personally i don’t! i find the idea of pamina not being sarastro’s daughter (which was how it was in the original libretto) more interesting and thematically relevant. reasons being:
the queen and sarastro’s mortal enemyhood, to me at least, is more interesting when it ISN’T a divorce spat… i think that simplifies what should really feel more like an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object. plus there is something distinctly weird about seeing a non-romantically-involved man and woman fighting and going Omg what if it was an (ex-)romance thing, at least to me; i think a woman and a man should be able to do all the crazy psychological two-hamsters-in-a-tank enemyhood stuff without it being romantic.
i like the idea of pamina kind of (at least initially) hating sarastro and the idea of him being her mother’s mortal enemy who ABDUCTS HER TO INSINUATE HIS OWN IDEAS INTO (without any sort of familial connection) really adds 2 that
the whole thing, at least imo, is really rooted in the idea of the eclipse- two opposites coming together and welding as one. if pamina is the offspring of the queen of the night and sarastro, she already Is that unity; tamino hence loses his relevance as a character. which doesn’t feel right (and i am also the one and only tamino fan i love that little guy)… in my mind pamina is the moon tamino is the sun and they inherit those positions from the queen and sarastro respectively. their union is the eclipse and the balancing of the sides, not either of them specifically. also i feel like there’s some cool potential to parallel tamino and sarastro’s relationship in act 2 w/ pamina and the queen’s…. why does nobody ever jump on that…….
if you want what i would do regarding sarastro and fatherhood, check out my magic flute adaptation over at @song-ofthesky… where multiple characters are sarastro’s children and none of them are pamina!
something something sarastro and the queen of the night something something behemoth and the leviathan…. massive awe-inspiring beasts neither better than the other and yet diametrically opposed, always at the claws of one another… terrifying and spectacular but ultimately both destined to become food for the masses. Well is that anything
Watched yet another Magic Flute performance on Youtube.Is there an adaptation where Sarastro is ALSO evil I wonder?
Because while I know it wasn't intentional and he's supposed to be the misunderstood good guy (masonic themes, enlightenment, weird 18th century "ancient" mysticism, etc, etc,) but he 100% reads as an evil despotic cult leader to me (also sexist). Just two manipulative assholes locked in an insane custody battle over their daughter and dragging everyone into their bullshit.OR you could up the scale and play it differently: two opposing forces of nature (light/dark, sun/moon etc etc), neither of which is good or evil and both of which are necessary for life, locked in a battle neither of them should win. (Sarastro and the Queen of Night = anthropomorphic representations being assholes, each declaring themselves superior & trying to disrupt the balance and generally messing with mortals)
Pardon my incoherent and potentially stupid thoughts on the matter I just feel there's so much unexplored plot potential here.
(P S Also: not a fan of modern setting au's usually but I already have two exact types of people I would turn The Queen of Night and Sarastro into in mind.)