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La Belle et la Bête / Beauty and the Beast
d’après le conte de Madame Le Prince de Beaumont
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1981
Artist : Fiona Moodie
My mom has always had a bit of a "type" when it comes to men: dark-haired, strong-featured, and preferably Jewish.
Of course my dad fit that description exactly and she was married to him for 41 years. But before him, she had a boyfriend who was also Russian-Jewish. And she tells me that as a teenager, she had a big crush on Topol as Tevye in Fiddler on the Roof, even though he was playing a grizzled middle-aged father.
Though admittedly, she hasn't always chosen that type. Her high school boyfriend was the now-famous Egyptologist Mark Lehner, who isn't that type at all. And she's confessed to me that her first childhood crush was on Mary Martin as Peter Pan, so in another life, she could have been a lesbian with a thing for androgynous blondes.
But in general, she's gravitated toward men like my dad.
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is it just me, or the disney fandom has a weird case of racial bias? all the new female characters, Raya, Mirabel, Asha, Moana, are hated for being 'girlbosses, and the fandom seems to suggest a 'prettier', more 'delicate' and 'feminine' type of princess, which sounds a little weird to me, and regards to the male characters, it's the princes of color who get the most hate. Aladdin the liar, Shang the sexist, Naveen and Maui are manbabies..it feels really insidious, especially when these comments come from the same person.
Yes. I think it started from a place of good intent, wanting to defend the three Walt-era Princesses after so many years of people bashing them and calling them anti-feminist. But it’s taken a turn so that a lot of fans just seem to want more heroines like the Walt-era Princesses and enjoy bashing all the heroines who are less sweet, poised, and delicate - or less white, for that matter.
As for the Princes and other heroes, I have seen the white ones excessively criticized too - e.g. Snow White’s Prince the stalker/necrophiliac, Adam the abuser, John Smith the colonizer, Quasimodo the Nice Guy, Flynn Rider the jerk, Kristoff the boor. And I haven’t personally seen too much criticism of Shang; if anything, I’ve seen more fans who try too hard to insist he does nothing wrong. (“He doesn’t care that she’s a woman, he’s just upset that she lied!”) But I’m sure those defenses are in response to excess criticism that I just haven’t seen. And I can’t get over how hard some people are on Aladdin! It does make you wonder: if the exact same story took place in a European setting, with white characters, would they be as hard on him, or would they empathize a little more?

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Other people have posted about this before, but...
Elizabeth Bennet isn't the narrator of Pride and Prejudice. She's not the only viewpoint character of Pride and Prejudice either. The book is narrated in third person by an omniscient narrator. And while of course there's some blurring of the lines, it's generally clear whether a scene is being described strictly from a character's point of view or whether the narrator is describing it objectively.
From the posts I've read on this subject before, I've learned that the Austen fandom has long had the habit of either trying to paint Darcy as better than he is (e.g. "He was never really proud, just shy") or as worse than he is (e.g. "He probably really did deny Wickham a living out of jealousy"), with the excuse that we only see him from Elizabeth's point of view. But that's not true.
Now I've been seeing the same thing, again and again, when people defend The Other Bennet Sister from complaints that it distorts the characterizations from Pride and Prejudice. They claim "Pride and Prejudice is from Elizabeth's point of view. The Other Bennet Sister gives us Mary's point of view, which is different but just as valid."
But the original book isn't always from Elizabeth's point of view. Overall, it's from an omniscient point of view, which sometimes describes Elizabeth's or another character's specific viewpoint, but at other times tells us what are meant to be fully objective facts about the characters.
I know I made a poll about it before, so I don't need to bring it up again, but I wish that Jane Austen fans wouldn't accuse Darcy of "negging"!
Negging is manipulation. Negging is when a man insults a woman or gives her backhanded compliments to break down her self-esteem. The point is to make her grateful that he likes her despite all "flaws," to stop her from thinking she's too good for him, and/or to make her think no one else would want her.
Darcy isn't negging Elizabeth when he insults her looks at the beginning: he's genuinely not interested in her and genuinely doesn't find her pretty at first. The omniscient narrator tells us that he only gradually becomes attracted to her as he gets to know her better.
Nor is he negging during his first proposal when he makes such a big, insulting deal of Elizabeth's lower social status. He's not trying to manipulate her into accepting him: he thinks she's already been flirting with him and has no doubt that she'll accept. He's just being excessively, brutally honest.
I know some of the people who say "Darcy invented negging" are just joking, but it's not true. For all his other flaws, he's not a manipulator.
My ten favorite Snow White voices!
Howdy, these are my personal favorite voice performances of Snow White, bc I've been watching a lot of those ranking videos lately over the past few months since they're always in my recommended lmao.
Now remember!! This is my personal opinion, and yours may be different than mine and that's fine! So, if you don't like my picks...idk you can make your own top ten, I think that'd be pretty neat.
I like hearing different people's opinoins and perspectives...just as long as you're nice about it.
These aren't in any particular order btw, just only in the order I find the videos first lmao. Like, I love all of them, they're all wonderful imo.
So, let us begin!
Oh...I should probably tag the Snow White guy™️(bc that's what you are in my mind Rin) @snowrinrin bc I want to hear your opinion :>
Adriana Caselotti, English
She's the original! She has to be on the list, she way she speaks is so calming and sweet, like, I just can't help but feel happy when listening to her, she sounds so full of whimsy and positivity and I love that.
I know the voice and singing isn't for everyone, but I love her and how she sounds :3 And her high notes are really cool, like ok diva pop off <3
The cast of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs at the Muny (St. Louis Municipal Opera), 1969.
The stage adaptation of Disney's Snow White that was performed at Radio City Music Hall in 1979, with its book by Joe Cook and its new songs with lyrics by Cook and music by Jay Blackton, didn't originate at Radio City. It was first performed in 1969 at St. Louis's famous outdoor musical theatre, the Muny.
Here we see operatic soprano Patricia Wise as Snow White and operatic tenor Frank Porretta (father of actor Matthew Porretta) as her Prince. And among these actors with dwarfism who play the seven dwarfs, there are two very notable names: Billy Barty as Dopey (his credits are too many to list), and Jerry Maren, the green-clad middle member of the Lollipop Guild in The Wizard of Oz, as Sleepy.
(This wasn't Billy Barty's only experience with the tale of Snow White, as eighteen years later he played the dwarf leader Iddy in the 1987 Canon Movie Tales adaptation. Nor was Jerry Maren the only former Munchkin to appear in a Snow White adaptation, as Billy Curtis, the "And oh, what happened then was rich!" Munchkin, played the eldest dwarf Barnaby in the 1984 Faerie Tale Theatre version.)
Also in this production were another operatic soprano, Marthe Errolle, as the Evil Queen, and Australian actor Laurie Main, whom some of us remember best as the kindly narrator of Welcome to Pooh Corner on the Disney Channel, as Snow White's father the King.
It must have been quite a production!
"Pride and Prejudice" poll: Identifying with Elizabeth and Darcy
Yes, I identify with Elizabeth (on a level beyond being feisty and snarky)
Yes, I identify with Darcy
Yes, I identify with both of them in certain ways
No, I don't identify with them, but I personally know people who do
No, I don't identify with them, and I don't know anyone who does
Every now and then, I've heard people claim that Elizabeth and Darcy aren't relatable characters. Repeatedly I've read the claim that Elizabeth is a heroine you aspire to be like, not a heroine you relate to. (To me that claim seems odd, though. She's far from a perfect role model: she spends the first half of the book getting things wrong, and the second half realizing she was wrong and changing her opinions!) And as for Darcy, I know what people who honestly do relate to him have to deal with: other people scoffing at the very idea, insisting that he's just a fantasy of a snob who transforms into a romantic ideal.
But I don't buy that. Both characters seem very human and believable to me. There must be more people who see themselves in them than some fans think there are!
So do you identify with one of them, or both of them, or do you not?

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Regarding Emma Thompson's strawberry blonde Elinor hair, I would complain about it because it's ahistorical. Red hair would have been a major flaw at that time, greatly detracting from a lady's beauty. P&P 1995 gets this right with their red-haired Miss King. Kate Winslet's hair has a slight red tint in the movie too, IIRC, even though Marianne is supposed to be a brunette. There were probably few complaints from moviegoers because red hair is less stigmatized than it once was.
Yes, even much later in the 19th century, Victor Hugo framed Mme. Thenardier’s red hair in Les Miserables as a part of her ugliness. For that matter, since that was how he felt about it, he probably made Quasimodo a redhead in The Hunchback of Notre Dame to further emphasize his ugliness too. And of course later still, in Anne of Green Gables, we see Anne Shirley's loathing of her own red hair.
Even today it's a sore point. Not from my perspective, of course: from the outside as a brunette, I've always thought or red, auburn, or strawberry blonde hair as beautiful, and until I read Anne of Green Gables for the first time I never heard anyone say otherwise. But when Halle Bailey was cast as Ariel in the live-action remake of The Little Mermaid, I remember the uproar. Not just from the blatant racists (although they could be heard too), but from redheads accusing Disney of prejudice against their hair color, claiming that all their lives they had been taught that red hair was ugly and garish, but that Ariel made them feel like they could be beautiful for a change, and now Disney was taking that away from them. Though as it turned out, that big fuss was fur nothing, because Bailey's Ariel had red hair after all: black people sometimes have red hair too.
One thing I'd like to know is this: at what point in Western history did red hair start to become more accepted, to the point that a woman could have red or reddish hair and be considered beautiful? I assume it was probably the late 1800s, because I've found some Pride and Prejudice illustrations from that time that give Elizabeth or even Jane strawberry blonde or auburn hair.
What do you think is the worst movie version of your favorite classic book?
It's hard to say, but while I haven't seen it, I think Emerald Fennell's "Wuthering Heights" sounds like the worst.
Hi! What are your top 5 favorite fairy tales?
Hmm... I may change my mind later, but for now these are my choices:
Cinderella
Snow White
Beauty and the Beast
The Snow Queen
The Little Mermaid
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Interesting that they toyed with giving Aurora black hair. Though I understand why they decided against it in the end, as that would have made her too similar to Snow White.
Kinda wild how the concept of emotional labour changed from
"people have to hide their emotions to perform specific types of labour where their apparent emotions influence another person's. Eg. Flight attendants have to be cheerful all the time, so that passengers feel welcome and safe. This suppression and masking of emotion can cause a sense of disconnect within the individual where they dont know what their true feelings are. This is part of the Marxist idea of alienation from labour and from the self."
To
"If you ask me to care about you or listen to your problems, youre being toxic."
It's worth taking a look at how we got here.
Sociologist Arlie Hochschild coined the term in 1983, specifically describing it as emotional performance required by a worker for a job. This alienates the worker from their own feelings. The expected emotion can be care, joy, etc. but it can also be harshness or simply the expectation to not show your real emotions in the workplace.
Sociologist Arlie Hochschild also coined the term 'the second shift' in 1989. describing how in families where a man and a woman both have a job, the woman is often still expected to do all the child raising and house cleaning, meaning she is carrying a double workload.
Already in 1983 (before coining the term 'second shift' but already developing the concept), Hochschild herself connected the two ideas, writing: "In a typical nuclear family unit, it is thought that women become responsible for much of the emotional labor by default, meaning they are responsible for shaping and managing the family’s feelings." So we have the person who coined the term, immediately after coining the term, also using emotional labor to describe unpaid household work! This is part of the term since its inception!
Around 2015 the term gained a lot of popularity and began to be more broadly applied. Some things that are, according to Hochschild, NOT emotional labor include:
Doing physical chores around the house
Doing mental chores like remembering birthdays
Hochschild: "if we talk about all the unpaid labor women do in the home as “emotional labor,” we’re insinuating that any kind of labor that falls most often to a woman is “emotional.” Like chores are just labor. Writing Christmas cards is just labor."
Also not emotional labour:
Expressing genuine emotions that you feel
Doing things that make other people feel better
Hochschild emphasizes that doing things to positively impact other people's emotions isn't 'emotional labor'. Managing and suppressing your own emotions is. That's where the alienation that is central to emotional labor comes in: it's alienation from your own feelings.
It's also essential that there must be an expectation on the person to do this. Hiding your real feelings by choice isn't emotional labor. As with emotional labor in the workplace, non-caring emotions and suppression of emotions typically expected of men are included. So when a wife expects her husband to suppress his pain and not cry in front of the children, that is an example of emotional labor. So to summarize, emotional labor according to Hochschild doesn't have to always be paid labor, but it does always involve:
The management of your own emotions
Alienation from your real emotions, as a result of being forced to perform other emotions.
Pressure/expectation, there are negative consequences if you don't do the performance.
There is a system, (the workplace, genderroles, etc) shaping these expectations, putting specific expectations on categories of people.
Finally, Hochschild never said that emotional labor shouldn't exist or that it doesn't have a function. In the workplace and out of it, emotional labor can achieve important things. The nurse that uplifts the patient and the parent that comfort their child might both be hiding their real feelings and that itself is not bad. The problem is the pressure to do this labor when you dont want to, the lack of acknowledgement of this labour and óf its potential for alienation, and the division of this labour according to gendered expectations.
This reminds me of so many changing definitions.
"Emotional Labor"
Old meaning: Being forced to mask your emotions as part of a job.
Later meaning: A woman being forced to take on all the care for everyone's emotional needs in her family.
New meaning: Giving any emotional support to anyone, which no one should ever expect you to do or else they're abusing you.
"Gaslighting"
Old meaning: Manipulating a person so they doubt their own perceptions – a much more abusive tactic than mere lying.
New meaning: Lying. Just lying, because saying anything that isn't true equals psychological abuse.
"Negging"
Old meaning: A man insults a woman under the guise of “teasing,” or gives her backhanded compliments, as a manipulation tactic to lower her self-esteem and give him power over her.
New meaning: A man says anything rude to a woman he ends up in a relationship with.
"Not Like Other Girls"
Old meaning: "You're not like other girls" – men trying to flatter the women they like by putting down other women.
New meaning: "I'm not like other girls" – gender-nonconforming women, or women who in any way "don't fit in," thinking they're better than feminine women or otherwise "normal" women – which we can accuse them of as a way to put them down yet still sound progressive.
"Pick-Me Girl"
Old meaning: A woman or girl who tries to appeal to men by performing "perfect" femininity and putting down other women who don't conform to gender expectations.
New meaning: A woman or girl who tries to appeal to men by performing masculinity and putting down feminine women – "Not Like Other Girls" but specifically to attract men – which again, we can accuse any gender-nonconforming female of doing as a way to put her down yet still sound progressive.
Girlboss
Old meaning: A positive term for a successful businesswoman.
Later meaning: An insult aimed at ruthless businesswomen who use "feminism" as an excuse to stomp on other people.
New meaning: An insult aimed at any strong, assertive, or powerful female, whose very existence is disparaged for being anti-femininity.
I'm sure there are plenty of other phrases with definitions that have changed in less-than-ideal ways over time.

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I just went back to the two chapters of Pride and Prejudice directly after Wickham tells his lies to Elizabeth – Chapter 17, where she talks with Jane about it, and Chapter 18, the Netherfield Ball – because I was reminded of the fact that within those chapters, Elizabeth gets advice about Wickham and Darcy by three other young women. First Jane, who is reluctant to believe the worst of Darcy; then Charlotte, who encourages Elizabeth to dance with Darcy and urges her not to be led away from him by her preference for Wickham; and finally Caroline Bingley, who plainly tells her that Wickham is a scoundrel who did Darcy wrong, not vice-versa.
All three of their viewpoints turn out to be right, but all three are "right for the wrong reasons." Jane wants to think well of Darcy because she wants to think well of everyone, and she doesn't suspect that Wickham is lying, but thinks he must be mistaken about Darcy's actions, because she wants to think well of Wickham too. Charlotte is only being pragmatic and thinking of Darcy's status and wealth, not his character. And Caroline ends her speech about Wickham's villainy with blatant classism, by adding that of course it's to be expected from a man of such low birth.
In the post I recently reblogged defending Elizabeth from Austen fans who accuse her of so many wrongdoings, one of the arguments was against the idea that she should have listened to Jane and Caroline, because between Jane's naïve idealism and Caroline's snobbery, their opinions at that point really do ring hollow.
Except now, having reread those chapters, I'm not sure if I fully agree. Amid Jane's simple idealism, she does make one sound argument: that Bingley, a man whom they know is genuinely kind and decent, is Darcy's close friend. Maybe Elizabeth should have more strongly considered that fact instead of deciding so easily that Bingley must be deceived by Darcy. Indeed, after Darcy's letter, she does realize that his friendship with Bingley would make no sense if he were really the monster Wickham painted him as. And everything Caroline says about Wickham and Darcy's history turns out to be true: she just puts her own classist spin on the story at the very end.
I suppose this shows the cleverness of Austen's writing. If Jane, Charlotte, and Caroline were to give Elizabeth unquestionably good advice, but Elizabeth still ignored them, Elizabeth would seem less smart and be harder to sympathize with. But because their advice has obvious flaws, both Elizabeth and first-time readers have good reason to disregard it. Yet they still turn out to have been right about Darcy while Elizabeth was deceived.
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