#nuin

Nuin vs Faramir (son of Ondoher)

Nuin:

A Dark Elf in the Book of Lost Tales.

He’s an elf who found the first men asleep before the sun rose! He accidentally woke them up and took responsibility and taught them how to talk and how the world works. They call him the Father of Speech, in the very early draft he inhabits. Still canon in my heart, you go you random Avar.

Faramir (son of Ondoher):

The younger son of King Ondoher of Gondor, killed in battle along with his father and older brother. Also a character in Lord of the Rings Online.

more blorboganda later but! he's been hanging out on dagorlad as a ghost bc he snuck out to join the fighting against the wainriders with his dad and brother and they all got killed. really wants to help the rangers of ithilien once he gets out of the 'ghost who had to hang out at torture temple for a thousand years or so' fog

propaGANDA please vote for Faramir "Namesake of the Faramir we know" son of Ondoher he's got it all. Younger brother, couldn't stay behind while his family fought Mordor, rode out in disguise (sound familiar?) but died TRAGICALLY in the arms of the proto-Rohirric Commander. this is not even touching all the stuff he gets into in adaptations. Faramir I supremacy

OK no I can wax poetical on Faramir I Son of Ondoher because his is a tragedy that sets in motion the end of the Kings of Gondor (for an age or two. idk on specific but). Faramir I second son of Ondoher is not content to stay at home, doing his duty, following orders etc. etc. because he LOVES his dad and his big brother SO much. And the thing is, he really really shouldn't go. Hindsight 20/20 and all that but if he leaves there is NO ONE who can take the throne from his dad's direct line (because the Gondorian Council are punks and decide his cool sister Firiel and her extremely cool husband Arvedui can't have it on account of [handwaves] honestly). But the armies they're facing off against are serious business! They're really outmatching Gondor here. They straight up already fought his grandfather King Calimehtar, iand are back for round 2. So what does precious Faramir (I) do? He pulls the OG Eowyn, babey (and let's not forget parallels, PARALLELS about following your father (figure) and brother to war, right? she marries the NAMESAKE of this guy, incredibly cool mirroring here) and gets a disguise and rides with the Rohirrim-before-Eorl (some adaptations call this the Eotheod) to go help. Here's where things get EXTRA angsty HIS FATHER AND BROTHER ARE DEAD. He doesn't know because he's with the Eotheod, but like. The Wainriders killed them. And the Eotheod does help rout the rest of them and eventually, Earnil II future Throne-thief (but it's not his fault) gets the final victory BUT not before sweet noble Faramir is run through with a spear by the chieftain of the Wainriders and DIES IN THE ARMS OF A COMMANDER OF THE EOTHEOD. Like. That's a specific detail we have. Blorbo Blorbamir at LEAST didn't die alone and was discovered to be the prince there. So. Mr. Horse Leader gets to give the news to everyone about the poor guy that died in his arms being the son of the king. But oops! The King and brother are already dead so. Technically the King of Gondor died in his arms. What a day for him, right? Anyway this is still about Faramir who (in the LoTRO adaptation) feels such guilt that he HANGS AROUND AS A GHOST REGRETTING HIS CONTRIBUTION TO THE DOWNFALL OF GONDOR. Tragicest blorbo. Regret. Precious guy. Vote Faramir I

[ID: Grayscale digital art of six characters from Middle Earth. On the top row are Nuin, Daeron, and Legolas. On the bottom row are Tuvo/Tu, Luthien, and Tauriel. Each character is shown from the shoulders up and looking forward. Nuin has shoulder length hair. He has multiple scars on his face, including one that goes across his nose, a bite mark on the side of his face, and slash marks on his throat. He has a plain tunic and a thin, patterned vest. Tuvo has a tired expression, a wide-brimmed hat, a dark tunic, long hair, and a wide, patterned vest. Daeron has dark hair, which he wears in an afro. He is wearing a terleg. Luthien has her hair dark in box braids and is also wearing a terleg. Legolas has dark, wavy hair which is contained in a ponytail. He is wearing a patterned tunic that closes at the front and has a collar. Tauriel has straight, dark hair, which is worn in a braid. She wears a similar kind of clothing to Legolas, though her has a darker background and light patterning, while Legolas’s is the opposite. End ID]

glingender | nuingender

glingender: an umbrella term for all genders that are genderless in nature (glin). can also be used to refer to either a gender that is not fully defined, but is definitely genderless, or a gender in which genderlessness is its defining feature.

nuingender: an umbrella term for all genders that are null in nature (nuin). can also be used to refer to either a gender that is not fully defined, but is definitely null, or a gender in which nullity is its defining feature.

needed these for a request! definition for glingender is here and definition for nuingender is here. the glingender flag is based on the agingender and genderless flags, with the largest stripe being white to mimic the genderless flag and the green from the agingender flag being toned down. the nuingender flag is based on various null gender flags, so it’s basically just black-and-white, with the largest stripe being black, since i felt it best represented nullity.

flag id: the flag on the left has 7 stripes, with the fourth being twice as large as the others. in order, they are very dark grey, grey, pale green, white, pale green, grey, and very dark grey. the flag on the right has 7 stripes, with the fourth being twice as large as the others. in order, they are dark grey, silver, white, black, white, silver, and dark grey. end id.

men of middle-earth ϟ the first men ϟ headcanon disclaimer

Nuin || The Father of Speech

@tolkienocweek - day six forgotten characters

The wizard Túvo told Nuin that the sleepers he had found were the new children of Ilúvatar and that they were waiting for light. He forbade any of the elves to wake them or visit those places, being frightened of the wrath of Ilúvatar, but despite this Nuin went there often and watched, sitting on a rock. Once he stumbled against a sleeper, who stirred but did not wake. At last, overcome by curiosity, he awakened two, named Ermon and Elmir, they were dumb* and very much afraid but he taught them much of the Ilkorin tongue, for which reason he is called Nuin Father of Speech.

- JRR Tolkien, Book of Lost Tales

*dumb = without language, apparently the men woke without the concept of language and needed someone, in this case Nuin, to teach them.

Honestly Nuin is such a fascinating character to me and I just love the concept of him coming across the still sleeping children of men and that he, despite the fact that his king forbade him and his people to go to them, still went back to watch them. He must have been truly fascinated by the aspect of there being new children of Ilúvatar soon and that he would be able to interact with them. And when he wakes up Ermon and Elmir he realises that they need his help and he teaches them language.

I like to think that he took on a father-role for the earlier generations of men, which might be also because the first men awoke as literal children, not quite teenagers. Nuin must have felt very protective of them, in a way that he didn't just teach them how to speak but also how to hunt, build weapons and shelter - how to survive essentially and that he only stops doing so because he died in the end. This also pairs nicely with my headcanon of him having a wife and a child at some point who both died prior to these events.

Although he gets forgotten by history and doesn't even get the credit he deserves I like to think that Nuin remains a myth amongst men that somehow survived until the Third Age, maybe as a nursery rhyme?

The origin story of the secondborn in general is super fascinating and I really really want to explore this unknown time a lot more in the future.

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Feminullfluid: someone who is genderfluid between woman and gendernull. Could be considered to be under Genderfae.

The static equivalent is Feminull and the masculine equivalent is Virnullfluid.