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He knows our history. [...] Arianne turned to gaze upon his face. A good face, she decided. The boy I knew has become a handsome man.
whatāre some of your favorite canon characters castings in stars above? :3
i have way too many to count so here's a curated selection
bella hadid as ashara dayne
may calamawy as elia sand
jonathan bailey as baelor hightower
vanessa kirby as daena the defiant
matteo martari as gulian swann
emily bader as jeyne westerling
adam bakri as arthur dayne
rachel weisz as alerie hightower/tyrell
tamino amir as daemon sand
bill skarsgƄrd as aurane waters
freddy fox as maegor targaryen (son of aerion)
jensen ackles as the night's king
rebecca fergusson as the corpse queen
HEAR ME OUT: arianne martell & daemon sand
I'm curious, are bastards considered one of the smallfolk if their mother was? For example, if Jon's mother is Wylla or the fisherman's daughter (we know he isn't, but that's besides the point), rather than Ashara Dayne? If he isn't, then what about his children with one of the smallfolk?
A bastard's status depends on a few things. The first is if they're acknowledged (in some form) by their noble parent. Without that, they don't even get a bastard surname, which as GRRM says, "is simultaneously a stigma and a mark of distinction." A completely unacknowledged bastard will live and die a nobody peasant no matter who their father was.
The second is if they're taken in by their noble father. This will generally grant them a noble education (including martial training if they're male) and noble upbringing that they would not receive otherwise. This is how we get examples of Ramsay Snow, the Bastard of Bolton, Aurane Waters, the Bastard of Driftmark, Harry Rivers, the Bastard of Bracken, Rolland Storm, the Bastard of Nightsong, Daemon Sand, the Bastard of Godsgrace, and yes, Jon Snow, the Bastard of Winterfell. (Note "taken in" does not always mean at their father's castle; e.g. Larence Snow, son of Halys Hornwood, raised at Deepwood Motte.) The mother's status is not relevant to their noble upbringing -- see for example Ryger Rivers, one of the many acknowledged bastards of Walder Frey, whose mother was a smallfolk woman who milked goats, but Ryger has a presence in the Twins and even thought he could chide his father for being discourteous. (Walder told him otherwise.) But in general we know very little about these bastards' mothers, though likely most were mistresses or paramours (the miller's wife that Roose raped is probably a notable exception), and the odds are against them being particularly noble.
So to clarify from above -- these noble bastards aren't exactly smallfolk, but they aren't as high a status as their noble father either, and they have a bastard stigma either way. To take Jon's example, it doesn't really change his status if his mother was the noblewoman Ashara or the wet nurse Wylla, since either way, after Ned "took him in", he is just considered a noble bastard. Maybe some people might treat him slightly better depending on what they believe about his mother's status, but it's not nearly as big a factor considering everything else.
Now, I'm not quite sure what you mean by "his children with one of the smallfolk". But I'm guessing by "his" you mean Jon Snow, and are asking what if he never joined the Night's Watch and instead marries a smallfolk woman while still being considered Ned's bastard and never learning otherwise. Well, if he did so, his children would be legitimate Snows, unless they choose to change their name to remove the bastard stigma. Would they be smallfolk... *waves hands*... they'd be Jon's children, probably raised in Winterfell. The Whitesnows might be considered a minor vassal house, slightly below the Pooles and Cassels, somewhat above no-surname vassal smallfolk families like Hullen's, Farlen's, Gage's, and Old Nan's. If the mother was a noblewoman (minor or otherwise), would it improve her children's status? Maybe a little, especially if they had somewhere to live other than Winterfell... but on the whole it would all depend on Jon's own status in the household of Lord Robb Stark. Mind you, if you're asking what happens if Jon doesn't actually marry this smallfolk woman, then his children would be bastards, straight up. (And obviously.)
BTW and just FYI, acknowledged noble bastards, among other benefits, can have very good prospects in marriage, they wouldn't have to marry smallfolk. (Unlike poor Mya Stone, never officially acknowledged by Robert and not given a lady's upbringing; though even she has a knight from a minor house interested in her.) Walder Rivers, Walder Frey's eldest bastard, married a noblewoman from the minor House Charlton and has several legitimate children. Daemon Blackfyre, while an outlier in many ways, did marry a noblewoman of the Free Cities. And we have examples of a noble bastard like Tyler Hill, who thought he had status enough to romance a (married!) former queen, and like Daemon Sand who actually asked Doran Martell for Arianne's hand (and for all we know Doran only truly rejected him because of Arianne's secret beotrothal to Viserys).
I hope that helps!

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iām completely uncommitted on who told, i think drey is VERY obvious, kind of TOO obvious to me? i feel very much like okay what do you want me to do with this. itās not obvious in a fun way like, idk, the purple snakes in sansaās hair prophecy, where itās VERY obvious after the fact in a fun way itās just kind of there. that doesnāt mean it canāt be MADE to be interesting, and i personally would LOVE if we got more drey to flesh him out bc i LOVE arianneās gaggle of exes and gays, but where do we even have TIME for that. if he was like āyeah thereās four more booksā id entertain it more but thereās two and he is actively trying to make them shorter bc he canāt stop adding more plot lines so eh. and i feel similarly about daemon sand being the one who told. like the person who told is a two line character only mentioned in passing who we didnāt know was a lover of arianneās until two books later, bc THATS when he shows up? solid eh.
no one told is interesting bc it characterizes hotah in a messy way and i think it would have a lot to teach arianne. kind of similar i think to sansaās agot story honestly, like a less lethal ned story where itās like. no one told, you were just sloppy and completely in over your head bc you are convinced you are an ace at this game and you donāt even know what fucking game we are playing. the thing is bc that defeat comes at the hands of her father, she can actually stick around to learn from it, and then grow both personally & with her father when she realizes it. but also if no one told & hotah just said it to be a dick thatās INSANE. it really digs into this point iāve made about hotah before that he is just so patriarchal & paternalistic that heās completely blind to things that are staring him right in the fucking face, he thinks heās soooo deadly and sooooo in tune and heās gonna get off this one liner Specifically to make arianne ~his little princess~ to feel worse about herself. really cooking with those lower-class-guy-projects-class-insecurity-onto-unaware-and-innocent-highborn-lady ie petyr-cat&sansa and criston-nyrali (like the better version of drey told tbh).
tyene imo is the easiest to do QUICKEST which is why i think THATS whatās coming. arianne says like a hundred times times that she loves TYENE SPECIFICALLY out of all the sand snakes. theyāre close as sisters. they have so much in common. they share all each otherās secrets. theyāve literally had sex (im sorry but if you had a threesome you had sex with both those other people if u have a threesome w a family member you had sex with that family member) (iām sure george feels the same but for horny reasons). arianneās gaggle also talks about tyene being involved with them in ~shenanigans tho they donāt give any specifics. and tyene & oberyn seemed to have already planned to crown myrcella, bc that exact scenario is mentioned twice before arianne does her own plot. i think if you are tyene, and you knew arianne agreed with this plot, and then doran locks up all the sand snakes AND daemon sand, you might worry that arianne is ALREADY doomed to fail bc doran has a stronger hold on sunspear than you thought, might as well rat out the plan to get everyone released and then move on from there! itās self serving but i think that really tracks not only for sand snakes & oberyn characterization, but the dornish plot as a whole. everyone sort of too busy tripping over each other bc no one wants to talk about their plots. moving too slow, too sloppy, bc everyone is still fucked up from the losses of yesterday. and you barely have to do any more backstory for it to work, and you can focus on the fun fallout of tyene betraying arianne to doran.
I saw your post about Dany of Dorne and I couldn't help but think that in retrospect it sounds quite funny that Dany Martell's descendants continue to boast that even though Maron gave his wife a summer palace, deep down she still loved her rebellious bastard half-brother, while the official narrative was that Dany felt nothing for Daemon, but Daemon was a frustrated lover who wanted to crown her Queen of love and beauty at her wedding to Maron because the Chronicler can read Daemon's mind.
For me the relationship between Daenerys and Daemon can be seen through the way Arianne and Daemon Sand are written. We know Daemon was in love with Arianne, and even asked to marry her, but Arianne knew the marriage would never happen since he was a bastard, although she did give her maidenhead to him. They stop seeing each other for a time, although we see Daemon still having ties with House Martell, and being loyal to them, he is cold towards her while she still find him handsome š¤·š¼āāļø I think something similar happened with Daenerys and Daemon, he asked Daeron to break his bethoral to Rohanne (after A4 death) so they could marry, was rejected, which Daenerys expected like Arianne did, he moved on with Rohanne but she still had feelings for him.