#clowngate

When Jonathan and Argyle are high and making jokes about blips, doing it along to the stoner music

They end up making a stereotypical clown/circus type melody.

Which of course contrasts with the seriousness of the events and with the tone of the sober ones in the car, so it’s a funny moment.

But also.

That’s still March 22.

Will’s Birthday (?)

And clowns ?

And ALSO when they get home, Murray is playing opera music.

Something something this is all a performance

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Like the title implies, some of you may be SHOCKED by this photo, and others may have long been on the "Mr. Clarke is the traitor/connected to Tharizdun" train....

Well, guess who just hopped on?

Between the rumblings on social media and the Puzzled clues (which I'll be going over in a minute), it was this part of the Tristan and Isolde story (Part Seventeen) that really crystallized it for me:

[...] Day breaks, and [Tristan and Isolde] are caught by King Mark, who got the heads up from Tristan's own best friend, Melot (I have my theories on who this is in ST, but I'll keep them to myself). A fight ensues between Tristan and Melot, which ends with Tristan allowing Melot to stab him.

You can say I'm not keeping my theories to myself anymore.

Melot is Tristan's best friend in Wagner's opera, but in Arthurian legend, Melot was the dwarf knight who accused Lancelot and Guinevere of adultery due to his own jealousy (toward Lancelot or Guinevere, I wonder?). He then fought Lancelot in a trial by combat, with the assistance of King Arthur's nephews Agravain and Mordred.

Similarly, you have Tonio in Pagliacci (Part Ten), a fellow actor whose lust for Nedda drives him to betray her (leading to her death), as well as the character Marvin Hudgens from Dark of the Moon (the play within the play in TFS).

Throughout the play, Marvin lusts after Barbara Allen (despite her devotion to John) and it's through his embrace that Barbara succumbs to the church's religious fervor and breaks her vow to John, turning him back into a witch.

So, going back to Tristan und Isolde's Melot: If Bob = Tristan, Henry = Isolde, and King Marke = the MF/Tharizdun (aka Mother Goose)...

Then I suspected there had to be a Melot too* -- a traitor (disguised as a friend) who sold out Bob/Henry during the timeline of The First Shadow, and prompted Bob to deny his feelings for Henry and/or betray him by other means.

*My assumption is based on the fact that the Thessalhydra campaign from the end of S1 was clearly inspired by the Tristan and Isolde legend (on top of the fact that the ST writers are confirmed to use operas as inspiration).

Why do I think "Melot" is Mr. Clarke?

Per Mike, not only did Mr. Clarke mention Bob's founding of the Hawkins Middle AV Club to him, but --

This 'photo' of Bob and Scott is from The Tomb of Ybwen comics.

This gives room to interpret that Bob Newby and Scott Clarke not only went to school together, but that they were close friends...

And yet, he's completely absent from TFS -- even though his appearance would've been a fun addition for fans.

@aemiron-main, as always, is way ahead of the curve in noticing shit others don't. I'm just now learning about Creelarke and damn, Bobgate and Creelarke are not so different. We followed a lot of the same breadcrumbs, but clearly came to different conclusions.

However, @aemiron-main found that, in the TFS audition tapes, Bob was speaking to someone who could've been Scott Clarke. However, those lines (and presumably that character) were erased entirely in the current version of the play. Likely because they didn't want the implications of Scott's presence out there.

Not only that, but OP also found it suspicious that Alan Munson/Allen Munson, who plays the Conjur Man (the "King Triton" of Dark of the Moon), had his name spelling glitch out on the TFS website in 2023 (though that's not the case anymore).

Per the play, Alan's known to be a hardcore method actor. So much so, Hopper thinks he may be the one behind the animal deaths...

Excerpt from TFS transcript:

Hopper: "All right, Conjur Man. I read the play. I know who you are. The Conjur Man is the king of witches. He kills with his death magic. You got so lost in the role that you actually believed that you were the devil. That's why you killed all those animals. Because you never break character!"

We the audience know that Hopper has come to the wrong conclusion... but did he?

In his son Eddie's spinoff novel Flight of Icarus, Alan is depicted as a hardened criminal. But, realistically, does that sound like the life path of a thespian to you?

What if "Alan" was so method that not only was he playing a convincing Conjur Man, he was playing a convincing Alan Munson?

What if, like Patty is an illusion to distract Henry/the audience from Creelby, "Alan" was an illusion to keep the audience from discovering who the real "Conjur Man" was --

CLARKE -- a name that appropriately means 'scholar', but also means --

CLERIC.

Per the Forgotten Realms Wiki:

This affirms not all clerics are necessarily *good.*

In Part Twelve, I posited that the "god" Henry served (against his will), was the MF.

Who is Scott Clarke's?

Mother Goose herself -- Tharizdun.

Netflix Puzzled has not only been teasing Tharizdun (spirals, Mother Goose references), but they've also been teasing a weasel, a snake in the Party's midst. But the latest one caught my eye:

UMPS was a cheeky answer for "authority on diamonds" -- referring to baseball umpires ("the person charged with officiating the game, including beginning and ending the game, enforcing the rules of the game and the grounds, making judgment calls on plays, and handling disciplinary actions"). Sounds a lot like a Dungeon Master in DND. Now is this referring to our usual DM Mike, or another ump who's taken over the game (Mother Goose)?

I ran with this, having recently realized that part of Mike's Hunt for the Thessalhydra campaign was directly taken from "Sing a Song of Sixpence" by Mother Goose. Implying that the campaign was just as much her design as it was Mike's.

But is it possible she was able to act, to officiate her campaign and enforce its rules through her devoted servant, Mr. Clarke?

From Tomb of Ybwen:

"She likes it cold."

Not to mention Mr. Clarke is literally the one who gives Will the map that starts him on that quest. Speaking of --

Who was there right from the beginning to help the Party?

Finding the scrap of fabric that led Hopper to Hawkins Lab

Explaining how the Upside Down worked via "the Flea and the Acrobat" metaphor (tightrope was another Puzzled clue from 1/22!)

Showing the Party how to make the sensory deprivation tank, allowing them to find Will and bring him back to Hawkins (filled with demodog larvae -- creatures that would later build the tunnels)

Getting Joyce to realize there was an AC transformer messing with the magnets, leading her to the Russians

Teaching Erica about wormholes, which would get the Party to 'realize' that the UD was one

Tracking Dustin's telemetry tag in the UD using balloons (bdaygate AND clowngate imagery)

And finally, actually getting to join the Party on "one last" quest to the UD/Abyss (although he seems to disappear at points without explanation)

Like the best of DMs, Mr. Clarke explained the rules of the world to the Party, gently steering them along their way without interfering too much, but always making sure they ended up in the right place every time.

Or at least making them think they were.

Again, if Mike was Vecna'd and the events of Ep 8 were all an illusion, it's very possible Mr. Clarke's planting of the wormhole theory was all part of Mother Goose's plan.

What that plan is? Still in the air (but I have a feeling E.T. may have something to do with it...)

Why did Mr. Clarke turn to Mother Goose?

The 'how' is still a mystery to me (though I assume it must be similar to how Henry got tethered to the MF), but if Tonio, Marvin Hudgens, and Melot are any indication --

Scott Clarke's motive was jealousy.

@aemiron-main's page has many proofs showing Scott Clarke's queer-coding. And, despite being depicted as somewhat of a ladies' man, in the Conformity!Ending we saw that maybe in Scott Clarke's perfect ending, he'd be with a dude:

Peep that rainbow tie that seems to fade in and out of grey *in the scene*.

There's also a lot of similarities between Scott and Mike (more so now with the DM stuff). So much so, people think Mr. Clarke could be Mike from the future:

Now, I'm not here to shut down that theory, but let's say I don't think that's the exact direction they're going in.

Again, Mike is the Bob/Tristan/Silvio/Barbara of the "love triangle" -- he's no Melot.

Scott, we can assume, had a close friendship with Bob and/or romantic intentions of his own, when in swooped the new kid, Henry Creel, and started taking up Bob's time and attention.

It could also be the other way around, with Scott wanting Henry, but my guess is Bob's Tonio was Scott/Mother Goose, while Henry's was Patty/MF.

Of course, this being the American Midwest in the 1950s, none of these boys could openly act on their feelings. Open queerness/queer relationships between schoolchildren was (and continues to be) a huge taboo.

But what if Scott Clarke could use that to his advantage by outing Bob and Henry? Or snitching on them in such a way that Principal Newby, the Creels, and/or Dr. Brenner got involved?

What if, by putting his friend Bob in such a tight spot, Scott forced Bob to betray Henry by either denying his queerness and/or throwing all the blame on poor Henry?

A betrayal that would truly turn Henry Creel into a monster.

This scene from Luca comes to mind (starring Jack Dylan Glazer aka the Eddie to Finn Wolfhard's Richie. Oh God, will the layers never cease?)

Perhaps Scott hoped that with Henry out of the way, he'd have Bob for himself again and they could become finally something.

But, with Bob's memories wiped and/or shoved deep in the closet with the rest of him --

Perhaps this fruitless endeavor turned Scott Clarke into something of a monster too (under MG's influence).

What if Scott "leveled up" from being a mere cleric?

After all, who is Mike the Brave said to fight on dungeon crawls?

If Henry is the monster (along with the rest of Mr. Baldo aka the Thessalahydra), and Will (theoretically) is the sorcerer...

...Then who is the evil wizard?

I rest my case.

However, this new parallel of Melot/Scott Clarke raises another question...

If the "sad song" was about Sir Tristan and Isolde/Silvio and Nedda/Barbara and John/Bob and Henry being betrayed by their "friend" Melot/Tonio/Marvin/Scott --

Then who is the "Melot" in Mike and Will's song?

Who has (intentionally or unintentionally) been keeping Mike and Will apart?

I think @anotherjlynn may know who. || I'm linking it rather than elaborating because it's their theory that I just stumbled on by chance, but it makes so much sense in the context of Byler/Creelby and the parallels established (also check out Part Eight again). I'm still reeling from it and I think it's best you sit down when you read this one.

Again, @aemiron-main found an interesting TFS parallel* between Patty and Scott:

"So, I was rewatching the TFS scene where Patty makes Henry say he loves her, and there’s a line that Patty says right before the “I love you,” line:

And I sat here like. Gee. That’s an eerily familiar line- WAIT A MINUTE:

Scott says the EXACT SAME THING."

We already know Patty isn't quite what she seems... and it seems, neither is Scott Clarke (and another "best friend").

Hey, if Bob Newby and Henry Creel could fall in love, then --

"ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE."

One final thing to mention re: Mr. Clarke:

There's been talk of clowns lately in relation, not only to El, but to Hopper's daughter Sara (@persistentmimicgrail + @columbinairlgirl).

Notice that Sara isn't only wearing clowns on her hospital gown. She's holding a Conformity Orange Tiger too. Not to mention what is said to have killed her was Hopper's exposure to AGENT ORANGE in 'Nam (which was referenced again in S5, Ep 8).

Of course, you know I have a strong opinion on what clowns mean in the world of ST (if you don't, check Parts Four and Ten). And, in Part Seventeen, I tacked on another head to the thessalhydra that I dubbed Mr. Baldo -- Mother Goose.

Who was the first person who mentioned Sara* on ST? Again, Mr. Clarke is at the scene of the crime.

*Also, how weird that Mr. Clarke, who lives in a small town and supposedly went to school with Hopper (since he was also in school with Bob) knew nothing about Sara... Nor did Hopper seem to know Scott.

Now, I can do more digging, but I'm interested in seeing what other people have thought on the subject.

If more mind-wiping/illusion-making nonsense was involved re: Sara, it makes you wonder what details were changed, who could've been replaced in those memories... and who did the replacing.

Much to think about... the puzzle has many more pieces that haven't quite slotted in yet, but I have a feeling they'll keep revealing themselves as we get closer to the Lunar New Year...

Until then --

Stay tuned.

HIMYM, Ralph Macchio, Eric Stolz and Madonna’s “Angel”

So, today we discovered that if you sync The Scorcer’s ending with WSQK, you get Madonna’s Angel accompanying that scene. And after that I accidentally found this:

1. This is the opening scene of 3x03, starting with this very song in the scene leading to El, trying to see if Mike’s planning to ask her to take him back.

As we know, he dgaf. And this is the same episode in which byler’s rain fight happens after which Mike will rush to Will to apologise. Keep that in mind to follow later why Ralph Macchio is crucial.*

2. Now, we need to drag the attention to HIMYM: today I reblogged a post where I shared my opinion on how the DB must’ve referred to it. “How I Met Your Mother” is infamous for its ending, and as we know, the DB explored bad endings. HIMYM is as much iconic for this matter as GoT atp. What they could refer to: changing the obvious awaited endgame to the unneeded one after a long way of building up the two main ones (both were ruined for coming back to that - out of nowhere).

3. So, okay, after the shot with Ralph Macchio in 3x03, I went to look up info about him, as it was obvious that the DB wanted us to focus on him.

First things I found were these:

How I Met Your Mother once again? BRO mitzvah?

Happily divorced? Two guys, one girl and a pizza place??! Sounds familiar or??

And then even better:

Good, huh???

And what about HIMYM?

I thought we’ve been himym’ed just by ruined endgames but as it turns out, not only! I checked what Ralph Macchio’s episode was about:

Does it remind you of anything? Like anything, where it was “a perfect set-up to make him think his life was ruined” — but then “the plan appears to satisfy all his requests”?

(Inconvenient truth, a clown, a character named Robin are bonuses + don’t forget the name of the episode which is “The Bro Mitzvah” which might be a reach but a fun one!)

This episode might be also a reference for Henry’s redemption arc as Barney here likes a villain and not a hero from his favourite movie (starring Ralph Macchio). Years later the “villain” played by William Zabka got his redemption arc too!

Now, Ralph Macchio and Eric Stolz

So basically what do we have here:

1. The play is flop because two actors are not right. Something something gay best friend with whom they what? kiss. Male and female characters go separate ways in the end.

(The movie’s name “Naked in New York” is interesting too after queer-coded “Mike in Manhattan”, but mb a reach)

2. I looked up info for Eric Stolz, with whom was that Ralph Macchio’s gay kiss and firstly found another connection to “Fast Times” mentioned in s4 (but okay, not that important) and secondly:

that he was supposed to perform as the main lead in Back to the Future but was focusing on another way of reading the script. Tragic vs Comedic. So he was fired after trying to play tragically and the movie now exists as we know it. Is it also a reach? For changing the narrative? Stopping the first one and starting over? No idea. But given that it is one more Back to the Future connection, it’s just wild.

(Bonus points for the last sentence regarding BTTS about how tragic it is to live not your own life.)

To sum up:

• Madonna’s “Angel” in 3x03 foreshadows byler rain fight where Mike cares about Will after a fight but doesn’t care much about El. This song was synced with The Sorcerer (5x04).

• Ralph Macchio in 3x03, played at least two gay characters (one was kissing his best friend) foreshadowed the rain scene + the pizzeria’s plot in season 4! *That’s why I said his pic was crucial.

• Eric Stolz is a kisser of Ralph Macchio in the film about the bad play with two not right actors; who also had a part in Back to the Future which was changed after he left.

• HIMYM disappointed the audience changing the initial endgame + had Ralph Macchio in the episode about allegedly ruined party which indeed was perfectly planned and satisfied all requests. (+ a hint to Henry’s redemption arc).

Bonus points for the clown reference!

…

it was just a short scene, one short scene, basically a photo of Ralph Macchio and a song. how could it give us all that????

netflix: hmmmmm

jatp: wins a freaking mtv award

netflix: i cannot see 👁️👁️

jatp: wins three telltale awards

netflix: i am looking away 👀

jatp: gets 7 emmy nominations

since we’re trying to get madi trending here’s a reminder that she

bonus: