Thoughts on Caleb & MCās original trope & dynamic
OHHH MY GOD THEY DIDNāT CENSOR THE ENGLISH VERSION THIS TIME???
My prayerās have been fucking received. The erasure of nuance has at least temporarily been put on pause.
I seriously am utterly fascinated by their original trope (in fiction!!) because thereās so much nuance to their dynamic & feelings. MC obviously always loved Caleb before they were adopted together, but because they were labeled ābrother and sisterā at such a young age, she didnāt know that her strong feelings for Caleb were not just that of a possessive, protective, sibling ā and of course Caleb felt trapped underneath the Gege title, but he wouldnāt ever hurt her or force her to do anything she didnāt want. He always prioritized her wellbeing. He wouldāve yearned and died without being with her if thatās what made her happiest. Anyway itās so so so cool. Yes thereās pseudoincest which is so taboo, but itās fascinating to both take in/imagine, and to clinically explore, their love and their relationship ā how they feel because of the situation theyāre in, what they think, how they act⦠They were just two kids who were deeply attached to one another and got put in a messy situation (adopted together.) Two kids who chose one another instantaneously and just so happened to click personality wise as well as giving the other what was so desperately needed: love, belonging, safetyā¦
and a disclaimer before some morally pure freaks come at me: just because itās interesting and I like learning about it doesnāt mean I think itās okay irl, or that I think every single pseudoincest situation is ethical and appropriate. And itās definitely understandable if this trope makes you uncomfortable. Thatās so okay. Whatās not okay is confusing people who enjoy thinking about and learning about Caleb-Mc as insane or wrong or gross.
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Dearest followers, I regret to inform you that I am utterly unwell. I apologize in advance because I am OBSESSED with this banner. I am OBSESSED with herbalist Caleb, and you will absolutely be seeing me simp over this for weeks.
HOWEVER. Before I fully derail into pure, unfiltered simping over how insanely well-written this story is (like why the FUQ Infold insists on putting Caleb through emotional devastation every single time yes I cried), I need to talk about something
I did some research. Itās not complete, but itās a start for the lore and symbolism nerds. So no, this is not your average simp post. This is peak maps-being-maps behavior: definitely unhinged⦠a tad overthought and aggressively nerdy.
And also, Iām not going to be talking about the blood of Christ or other Christian references. If thatās what youāre looking for, respectfully, go elsewhere. Iām gonna be talking about daoism and traditional Chinese medicine because yes I HAVE BEEN TO THE MINES
With that being said: We need to talk about the references ples
Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) and why this writing is eating so hard
Very quick TCM crash course before we proceed: qi is vitality, jing is essence. Qi carries blood, blood provides nourishment, and shen is spirit/consciousness. Theyāre all interconnected and regulated through the meridians, so disruption in one throws the entire system out of balance.
Chinese medicine and daoist thought treat the body as something you can cultivate. A vessel for qi. A literal container åØ/åØēæ. Sometimes even a vessel for immortality. And hereās the thing you need to understand:
āThere was no categorical distinction between poisons and nonpoisons in traditional Chinese medicine ā they acted in a continuum defined by level of potency.ā*
In other words: medicine and poison are not opposites in tradtional Chinese medicine. Itās about balance. Dosage, containment and potency.
āThere is no essential, absolute or unchanging core that characterizes a medicine. Instead, the effect of any given drug is always relational ā it is contingent on how the drug is used, how it interacts with a particular body and its intended effects.ā*
So when Caleb says this; that his heart is open and the question is how much you can tolerate? Yeah. Thatās a medicine/poison reference (too).
And on that noteāCaleb going to Du to find the Soulblossom?
Listen. Du can be read as ęÆ (dĆŗ), meaning āpoison.ā And whether or not thatās the canonical CN ver. character (my ass canāt read Chinese for shit but!) the symbolism is LOUD:
going into poison to retrieve medicine is literally the core logic of Chinese medicine.
āThe Chinese word for poison is āduā (ęÆ). Unlike its negative meaning today, ancient texts written 2,000 years ago used the word to denote potency, or the ability to both harm and heal.ā*
The blood scene aka Caleb being āherbalist correctā and sexy about it
When the MCāaka the medicine vesselāoffers her blood to Caleb and he refuses? Thatās him being an absolute slut for Chinese medicine (in my humble opinion)
Because in Chinese medicine, blood is meant to be contained. As mentioned, blood (č”) is closely tied to jing (essence, ē²¾) and qi (vitality, ę°).*
You lose blood you lose essence. You lose jing. You lose qi. You donāt just spill that casually. So what does he do instead?
HE GOES FOR THE EAR.
Which had me absolutely wtfing. Now. Are you shockethhh to learn that the ear is a microsystem in Chinese medicine? Because it is, pip-squeak.
Those meridians he was yapping about during your little pillow fight? Yeah. They connect to the ear. The ear represents the entire body.
So him nuzzling (shut up I know we all delulu it was kissing) the earlobe and suddenly being fine? Congrats. He just accessed your whole medicine vessel body through one tiny point.
The GOD DAMN SNAKE. That has to be a healing/poison reference. I donāt care. I will die on this hill. One snake. One snake named Xiaoqingāthe green snake in The Legend of the White Snake. The white snakeās (Bai Suzhen) little sister and her martial protector/guardian spirit.
Calebās fit is white. We wear green. Mic drop. Who is who? Well, maybe they are both a bit of both. My brain started glitching at this point.
And before anyone cries Bible snake: snakes are good in Chinese mythology and medicine. Protective. Transformative. Venom can be medicine or poison, it depends on the dosage. Just like Caleb asks is how much of him we can tolerate. Once again: medicine and poison are NOT opposites. Look, Caleb even thinks itās a cute lil pet.
This is layered. And it has to be intentional. In any case: Absolutely delicious.
Like already mentioned: Iām 99% sure heās feeding us medicine with a Chinese bellflower. It was thought to have lung-clearing, breath-restoring properties aka a medicine. Now listen:
Shaoxi Hollow is where these two freaks reside. Shaoxi can be read as å°ęÆ = something like reduced/restrained breathing/vitality or quiet life force.
(I can actually read those character with my limited kanji knowledge, and Iād read it as shÅsoku = a small break or catch your breath. Yes. My Japanese studies were not in vain, thank you very much)
AND THEN. Caleb plays a bone flute. Breath = vitality, see top picture. Aka qi.
And the hairpin. We did not have toābut we DID. AND HE GIVES ONE BACK. AND PUTS IT IN OUR HAIR. Thatās basically Caleb saying: āI see you as an adult now, I like you, and yes, I want something serious.ā
āMen giving hairpins, especially those worn by themselves for women, symbolize their desire to establish an intimate relationship with them. This behavior is more subtle and elegant than verbal confession, in line with the traditional Chinese way of expressing emotions that "start with emotions and end with courtesy".ā*
I NEED to know what it looked likeābecause it was described as beautiful. Not that it matteres. But⦠Iām just saying if it was silver or jadeā¦
(Jinshi my boi I see you, donāt worryābut weāre talking about this other fictional man right now.)
If you made it this far: thank you so much for reading and enduring the rambles of a madwoman.
I hope we can all agree that this card and this story is maddeningly good. The references are layered, the symbolism is coherent (me thinks at least), and the historical and medical accuracy??? nomnomnommunchmunchmunch
Thinking about Caleb and how he is a man built from trauma and existential fear who somehow became the embodiment of care itself - the very feeling of home. Heās a walking contradiction, and thatās exactly why he hurts so good.
Thereās a storm inside him. Not just from what heās lived through, but from what he feels: love, loyalty, fear, guilt, longing. All at once, leaking into every word, every dropped voice, every unguarded moment.
He flirts like a firework - bright and reckless. He teases like he doesnāt know how to stop, like pausing too long might let the silence swallow him whole. Heāll make you laugh, then suddenly say something so intimate and achingly honest it catches in your chest like an unexpected sob. Thatās the pattern: the mask and the man behind it, both real, both afraid.
Caleb is the kind of person who takes bullets and calls them scratches, who kisses you like the world is ending while pretending he doesnāt need comfort after. He considers you his whole world and gives you everything - will always find his way back to you, would burn everything else but put your safety first. He knows every part of you: the good things, the fears, the insecurities, the breakdowns. Heās seen you at your worst countless times and loves you more for it, never less.
He carries his own trauma without condemning anyone elseās - he knows that weight. He shows love with his whole being: the utter adoration in his voice and eyes, the way he cooks for you, holds you when youāre trembling. Because if anything is clear about Caleb, itās that he wants to take care of you.
He will guide you through every storm - both literally and figuratively - while simultaneously fighting against his own.
But he isnāt perfect. He wants to be needed, wants to protect, but doesnāt know how to be soft without falling apart. When he breaks - and he does - itās intense. Sometimes he panics, gets possessive - because thereās barely anything left of his memories to hold him steady. He feels helpless and needs to do something to avoid losing himself completely. But when he sees your reaction, he stops. He listens. Your voice soothes him. He wants to grow, to get better - for you and with you.
He feels older than his years because his priority was never fun for its own sake, but enjoying life with you. The ruthless colonel who doesnāt flinch at death, who interrogates without hesitation, who takes dangerous missions with only one thought: āPlease let me return to her one last time.ā Yet inside him lives a younger Caleb who draws out syllables even today - āAll rightyā and āBuutā and āBecauuseā - because he loves the indignation on your face and how it reminds him thereās still humanity left in him.
When he finally allows himself to be vulnerable, the composure crumbles. He stumbles, gets lost, sometimes cries. His voice cracks, his body trembles. Thatās when he becomes the Caleb with deeply rooted trauma instead of the one who learned to build a life despite what will never fully heal. He wants to be known, understood, held even while breaking. But heās terrified of what happens when someone really sees him - not the charm or bravado, but the boy who once drowned in grief and clawed his way back into someone worth loving.
With you, though, his mind goes quiet. Caleb doesnāt just love you - he needs you like the last breath heāll ever be allowed to take. He takes care of you but also craves you with everything he is.
And somehow, heās still your sun. Your anchor. Your impossible, untameable, golden mess of a man who makes the world brighter even when heās breaking.
Because the miracle isnāt that Caleb loves. Itās that he wants - needs - to love anyway, even after everything. He has never stopped loving you and never will. His love for you is branded on his soul.
Peeling the layers of psuedo-incest troupe of Calebmc
This has been weighing on my mind for the longest time since Caleb's release and both EN & CN/KR/JP troupes.
Rather than to say one is sanitised than the other, I'm gonna offer an olive branch that bridges the gap for both. Now, as we all know, language is hard. Transcribing one language with all its cultural nuances is hard. Everyone says "gege-meimei" is just a degree of honourifics and all of that to sanitise their relationship. Fair enough, that's your peace and I will respect it. But as I've read from the folks who l follow CN/JP/KR troupe, it is as it is implied.
However.
I feel that it's much more deeper than that. Far more than what is seen in the surface. Remember Adam & Eve? Eve was created from the rib of Adam. Or ever the Chinese myth of Fuxi and Nuwa where Calebmc dynamic was really inspired from? Twins who intertwined and created the world. The interconnective dynamic of Calebmc actually falls closer to the Aristotle theory of soul mates. Aristotle believed that humanity was once creatures who walked on 4 legs until the gods decided to slice us into halves, creating us, the bipede creatures that we are. And upon losing our other halves, we continue to sought after our lost halves, yearning and desiring to unify and become whole once more.
Now what does this mean for Calebmc? Far more than that surface level of incest troupes, far more than the childhood friend troupes, Calebmc are creatures of one heart, one star, one soul that had been born into 2 beings. The toxic, possessive, taboo dynamics between them; the degree of intimacy that makes them far more co-dependant of each other to the point they really cannot separate themselves from the other. It's supposed to be uncomfortable. It's supposed to be everything that is simultaneously intimate and forbidden. Far more than surface-level pseudo-incest understanding, these two are souls that were one that was cut off and forced to become 2. The pseudo-sibling aspect is supposed to signify how much they want to tie each other together that they want to be each other's everything. Beyond taboo, their love is supposed to be this cosmic level of romance.
Let me cross-reference their dynamic to Catherine and Heathcliff of Wuthering Heights. 2 children who grew up together, attached themselves to each other. Their interconnectiveness is laced with equal parts toxic, possessive and taboo. Catherine saw Heathcliff as her twin flame, her other half; her mirror. And it is that same possessive, toxic dynamic was why the misery spread to the next generation (an aspect that many adaptations failed to address).
Here comes the tricky part where I'm coming back to my point about language.
As everyone knows, there is no equivalent definition to the CN troupe in English language. Not without hoops, leaps and bounds of texts that no translator or reader wants to subject to themselves. Childhood friends was their closest route, but equally sanitizing. It would have been the better route to have dubbed them as step-siblings despite the implication of their hazy past before they were adopted by their grandmother. But alas, even that is a difficult thing to put forward without people screwing their heads around 360° at the idea of it.
At the end of the day, always remember that all of this is fiction. I relent, this is fiction. Not some guideline or some sort of Orwellian piece that people would use as a handbook. Morals are yours to keep, but no one deserves to be broken for the sake of fictional characters. Any further insistence on either side and pressing the issue is not your right to define. Death of the author exists as a means of separating authorial intent over a piece of text. Which means fiction like Love and deepspace are technically free of you to interpret the text as you wish. But do so with candid grace and respect to those who see things differently.
Thank you for reading. Feel free to disagree because that is your right. But remember to be civil.
Caleb: Necklace Thoughts & A brief Psychological Look Into the Reasons for Calebās Intense Devotion to MC & Their Bond. (Unedited)
Calebās dog-tag necklace says, āWhen U Come Backā - with no name attached, no phone number. It wasnāt just foreshadowing for the storyline & Calebās revival; Thereās an unspoken, almost possessive promise, a knowing MC has, that Caleb will always find his way back to her, returning like a dog to its owner. No return address needed. Can you imagine having that unbreakable bondā¦? // And they both filled up each others emotional cups for so, so long: Caleb has lived his life with such extreme mental health issues, and holds onto the warmth of his memories with MC because itās all he has left living for. She is the light in his dark world. She is the only place he belongs, the only place he feels happy within. (If you havenāt read his anecdote, go read it! The writing was superb, and you really get a better understanding of his character.) And I genuinely canāt imagine how hard it was & is for Caleb. Itās so understandable that heād hold onto his anchor so tightly. Also because of what he witnessed (her dying over & over again at the hands of Ever), MCās pain is his pain. He canāt stand the thought of her being hurt in any wayā it feels like a direct attack against this person he loves, like extreme threat to his own nervous system because of the paranoia and fear that she can die easilyā so heās fiercely, thoroughly, obsessively protective over her. He had to be the one to save her because nobody else would; As kids, he saw all her needs, and gave her everything he could giveā even amidst his own pain, she was his priority. And MC needed him as a kid, she needed a protector & a rockā somebody who would save her from it all, because she was just a kid. Caleb loved her so much, and she felt it. She got to have a safe place in him. They played together, and held onto each other through the darkness that they both faced. They know they can trust each other to be there when theyāre falling. But it gets complicated as they grow older, because they need each other in different ways, and their dynamic is changing. Caleb needs reassurance that he is keeping her fully safe (if he doesnāt, who will? She could die!), but MC wants to protect herself now, and she wants the freedom to live for herself. Caleb also hides a lot of his pain & his thought processes, which used to work in the past. In order for him to protect her and keep her happy, he hid things from her, like his own sadness. But thatās an issue now that theyāre on more level ground, because theyāre both adults, and like anyone else, MC wants communication and a say in things. Yetā despite it allā theyāre still bonded in a way like no other, which is why MC is deeply confused and hurt by the break in trust when Caleb makes & enforces certain decisions for her. ā¦I am so freaking excited to see what happens next in the main story⦠will MC be as mutually obsessive and protective over Caleb, now that she knows heās also the one in danger?
Other thoughts: Dude I wanna play around with the idea of MC being the one that got blown up instead of Calebā and her needing & having a bionic arm. ā¦How would she have reacted? Would she have been ashamed in the way Caleb was? Or does she trust Calebās devotion, knowing heāll always come back to her, always choose her, no matter what?
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everyday I realize more and more that my attachment style & core worries are very verrrry much alike Calebās (anxious & avoidant + āWill you still love me if you knew everything about me?ā) ⦠and the āIāll save you and protect you with everything I have,ā & babying your beloved ⦠yeah ⦠me ⦠and the āYouāre the reason Iām still breathing, youāre the reason Iām still going. Everything I do is for you, and for us. I love you so much. Amidst the darkness and the pain, youāre my light, my anchor, and it would tear me to pieces and kill me if I had to let you go.ā And the supportiveness (I want you to reach your dreams, I want you to be happy), obsessiveness (tell me every little detail about you. Let me understand you in full), wanting to help/guide/be capable of teaching my partner something they need help in⦠We give the love we want to receive, indeed. We are wired for, and geared towards, it. ⦠⦠ā¦ā¦..
Caleb, The Effects of Trauma, and MC Getting Her Memories Back Theory (brief):
Knowing a bit about trauma (as a person with trauma, who has been in therapy, and currently studies psychology), Iām absolutely vibrating with excitement re: MC getting her childhood memories of Ever back.
Caleb and MCās current dynamic is incredibly interesting because they are on different pages. Theyāre no longer in the sweet limbo of Summer, nor are they in that era of stability they had in young adulthood. Things have shifted, they are shifting still, and now more than ever it is clear that Caleb is stuck in the past. Heās consumed by his fears and his pain. MC, on the other hand, is much less so stuck in the past, as she doesnāt have her childhood memoriesā leading to Caleb and MC clashing over Calebās protectiveness in the Main Story. (Right now, I think their dynamic will change, but in the distant future.)
Caleb just canāt see past the hurt child that MC was, the one in need of his constant, vigilant protection. Caleb believes, with his whole body and mind, that if he isnāt doing everything to neutralize every threatā that the one he loves will die. If you developed the eye for it, itās so obvious, the depth of his traumaā it colours everything he is, everything he does, everything he feels, everything he thinks. āEveryone who wants to hurt you should justā disappear.ā - Homecoming Wings // āIf I donāt protect youā who will? Never mind⦠you wouldnāt understand.ā - Ch. 04
Calebās traumatized because he remembers.
Once MC remembers what happened to her, her world is going to break apart and shatter. Itās going to be horrible, painful, weāre going to see the effects of trauma & how it changes a personā she will be a changed personā and I think that sheās going to need Caleb more than ever before. The question isā will Caleb be there when that happens? Or will Ever have completely taken over? I cannot WAIT to see how this plays out.
(Donāt even get me started on the complexity of his mental health issues, his pain, and the voracious need he has for her, the warmth their share when theyāre together⦠Anyone who feels so alone and hurt without their anchor can likely understand Calebās feelings & behaviors, but thatās for another time.)
Iād love to hear your thoughts! Disagreement, agreement, dialogue, and discussion, are very welcome! Reblogs and comments appreciated :)
hearts in my eyes because I loooove seeing a traumatized man who has zero identity outside of the ONE good thing/person he ever knew, as he has only ever lived in a harsh and small world. his exposure and growth has been severely limited due to the lack of safety, once just a small boy who was unable to grow into a person that has their own expanded experiences, relationships, a sense of self that only manifests when a person is outside of survival mode.
all he knows is that one thing or person he loves is the only good thing heās ever known. everything else is darkness, suffering, painful. thus, he clings to that because itās his one tether to warmth and belonging. itās the only thing worth living for, because itās all he has ever felt positive feelings from.
I love you so much, youāre so interesting and tragic, I want to save you