the iliad ends with a disgraced corpse then honoured. the odyssey ends with disgraced corpses then honoured. the aeneid ends with a disgraced corpse. the thebaid ends with disgraced corpses. is this anything?
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the iliad ends with a disgraced corpse then honoured. the odyssey ends with disgraced corpses then honoured. the aeneid ends with a disgraced corpse. the thebaid ends with disgraced corpses. is this anything?

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How people dumb down Aphrodite's kids to be vs how Aphrodite's kids were moving in the myths
this might just be THE worst review oat 🥀
Aphrodite being the one to name her son Aeneas is heartbreaking when realizing that it means "Grief."
He's mortal and so death will come for him one day.
She can do everything right. Keep him safe make sure no weapon spills the life out of him—delay the inevitable—but that won't stop him from dying.
From the moment he was concieved, he was a child whose birth brought his mother grief, and his death will bring her even more.
It's the one thing every god who loves their mortal children will have to face.
And perhaps it wasn't laying with a mortal that gave her grief. It was knowing she'd join those gods in mourning.
friends romans countrymen etc
the classics bookclub discord server i co-run will soon start reading the aeneid, translated by shadi bartsch (author of my favourite monograph on the pharsalia……)
link to join the server here if you want to read it with us! you are welcome regardless of whether you have been into classics for a while or are entirely new to it :-)
we will be reading a book/chapter each week, in translation. we will be polling times for the weekly discussion voice call Soon so join nowish if you want to vote on that. but there’s also places to liveblog the text if you can’t/don’t want to join the call!
go my trojan scarabs <- vergil said this

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^ vergil writing dido & aeneas. to me
idk if this is anything but you can kind of view aeneas as a man that's unstuck from time. he sees the ghost of hector. he takes his eyes off his wife and she's now a ghost. he finds carthage, a city that won't be founded for hundreds of years. he carries the future of rome, he sees people not yet born when he's in the underworld. and so forth
i sing of arms and the... the... man I don't think i'm cut out for this 'bard' business after all...