I am anti-censorship (repugnance does not equal wisdom) and pro "do whatever you want as long as you do not harm actual people."
I am an adult, and I shalt often reblog posts containing rather grim and/or salacious topics. My tag for this is #osha violations. Sometimes I'll forget to tag it though, or mistag other things.
I am a self-shipper, and as long as thou art kind, thou art welcome here. If thou dost not wish to glimpse me, prithee block.
Archaic linguistics art awful [awe-some].
My "about me" tag is #sofa squeaks. My "answered asks" tag is #squeaky springs. The tag I use for drawing is #sofa sketches or #sofa's sketches.
I may follow people and then unfollow them later, not as a moral judgement, but simply as a fleeting expression of interest.
I cannot deal with donation asks in general, due to long covid.
Sometimes, when I am overtly weary, I will utilize telegraphic speech - (conserving energy and thusly words, i.e. 'I like this thing' gets shortened to 'like thing').
Here is a list of my self-ships under the cut:
#sweet enough to eat [Queen Chrysalis from MLP]
#stygian obsession [King Sombra from MLP]
#meteor bound [Curly from Mouthwashing]
#even black holes have halos [Jimmy from Mouthwashing]
#scattered by the spotlight [Caesar Flickerman from The Hunger Games]
#roses and rot [Coriolanus Snow from The Hunger Games]
#fallow in the midst of famine [Heket from Cult of the Lamb]
#harvesting havoc [Leshy from Cult of the Lamb]
#pestilence and punishment [Kallamar from Cult of the Lamb]
#appetites so long denied [Hannibal Lecter]
#artificial autolysis [Will Graham; primarily his TV iteration]
#alike in atrophy [AM from I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream]
#birds of a feather [Shane from Stardew Valley, halted for now]
...and Follower Covid, [a Cult of the Lamb OC], who exists mainly as an outlet for my rage about my chronic illness. It's both a self-ship, and a personality facet.
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hello! regarding your mention of Temi - I find it interesting that her title's the Innocent, and she's got a Little Red Riding Hood esque cloak on (it nearly resembles our [or 'our'] default fleece) - and yet most of her dialogue is akin to.. this: (silly tone tag)
"So much blood was shed here. It was fun to see!"
wonder why she interpreted it that way? đ¤ as a coping mechanism? because it was all she'd ever known? both? the Lambs' history of conquest - I know Woolhaven's their home, but Flockade is. extremely literal-ritual war, gamified. (I'm going to ignore Yngya's ordeals to focus upon what remains of the pre-genocide culture; i.e. Flockade).
^just wished to share my thoughts.
(also this isn't an argument for "the lambs are EVIL and Marchosias was justified!" <- since I fear the greater COTL fandom is.. wary of nuance. 𫩠my position's more like: "the Lambs were harmed, and sought to end the cycle by creating a new, apocalyptic one. they're both possible-colonizers and victims, for lack of a better word. Marchosias's attempts at creating a non-abusive mini-society still failed! something something seeking to escape the past but just tripping back over to it!" <- smth smth Clauneck's fatalism, too*).
*do you think the developers had planned out the whole DLC-lore in advance and simply kept the news quiet, or? I love how the lore, explicit and implicit, interlocks with all the other worldbuilding-tidbits, but sometimes my pondering gets. pointed.
Sincerely,
Swooning-Sofa.
ENG: Here is the English translation of your message, tailored to match the friendly and analytical tone of your conversation:
"You're right. If you look at her dialogue, she's actually depicted as someone who enjoyed slaughter even when she was alive. For example:
"It's not so bad, dying. I don't know why it's such a fuss! Killing is fun, too!"
"It was very exciting, the fighting. Such blood and viscera flying! Hehe!"
"Imagine seeing her head being cleaved from her neck... I think that would be nice!"
If she had enjoyed the slaughter with malicious intent, she probably wouldn't have been given the title 'the Innocent'.
I thought of it as an innocence born from pure ignorance. It's like how a young child might find it fun to pluck the wings off a dragonfly. The child does it thinking the bug is just a toy, but the dragonfly is obviously suffering. Of course, once the child grows up and learns better, they stop doing it because they realize it hurts the insect. But considering that actions stemming from pure ignorance can sometimes be the most cruel, I feel like Temi's case fits perfectly into that category.
Also, your point about Flockade being a game that implicitly represents the history of the Lambs' conquests is incredibly interesting! I completely gave up on playing Flockade because I didn't understand the rules at all, but I'll definitely have to look into it again when I get the chance. Thank you for sharing such an intriguing thought.
Moreover, I find the Lambs, Marchosias, and even the Bishops so fascinating precisely because none of them can be simply categorized as purely good or evil. Just as you said, the Lambs were potential colonizers themselves, but they were brought to ruin by another power (the Bishops), which led them to attempt a ritual of total erasure out of revenge. Marchosias took advantage of the chaos to seize Ewefall and conduct all sorts of experiments for his own revenge. Yet, considering quite a few individuals genuinely achieved freedom through him, you could view him as a sweet devil who honors a deal, true to his namesake.
And the Bishops... you could say they are the root of all this, but technically, they are victims of Narinder too. They were Lawful Evil. Their presence was what maintained order for the creatures living in this world, and they governed them. They're almost like the mafia in a way. In fact, if you revisit their territories after the Bishops die, the remaining inhabitants instinctively attack usâwhether to seize power, out of pure hunger, etc. Like this, everyone has their own stance, so you can't definitively label them as strictly good or bad. (Of course, I'm not blindly defending them either; their actions may have reasons, but that doesn't make those actions acceptable.)
Lastly, yes, the writer Jojo mentioned that they intentionally leave gaps in the story rather than explaining everything. I also saw somewhere that the DLC had been in planning for over a year, so it's highly likely they had been plotting this out well before that.
I love digging into COTL's lore and finding all the hidden details, so I'm really glad we could have this conversation. Thank you for the message!!
"It's not so bad, dying. I don't know why it's such a fuss! Killing is fun, too!"
"It was very exciting, the fighting. Such blood and viscera flying! Hehe!"
"Imagine seeing her head being cleaved from her neck... I think that would be nice!"
hey uh. google now saves images (I.E./including reverse image search), videos, audio (including voice recordings in search and translate. and "Search Live" but that's an AI thing.), and files you use to search and ALSO SCRAPES THEM to feed ai.
Double-check your privacy settings.
Yeah. Yiiiikes. They also moved some settings from Web and App Activity settings to uhm. I don't know I think it's to the new Search Services History settings where the media saving setting is.
[Transcript:] If your saved media is used to train our AI models, it is disconnected from your Google Account. This training data will be kept for up to 4 years, even if you delete the original activity. [End transcript. ]
Oh great I have no control over it haha that's great /sarc
Google also has this to say (from this article):
[Begin quote:] We take your privacy seriously and take steps to protect it when using your Search Services History data to train our AI models. For example, data is disconnected from your Google Account before it is used to train our AI models or reviewed by our trained service providers. We will seek your permission before sharing your media with these providers for human review as part of the model improvement process. We use filters designed to automatically remove a broad range of identifying info or sensitive personal information. We are constantly working to improve our filtering and safety systems to better protect your privacy. When Search Services History is off, your future activity won't be used to train Googleâs generative AI models, unless you provide feedback. [End quote. ]
:/.
Thankfully, you can turn this off. Under the cut is a tutorial for doing this, as well as more (I'd say rather important) info about this media-saving feature. If I've missed anything (especially since the wording on Google makes it seem to me that this may be one of several new features), do feel free to add onto this!
Go to 'My Google Activity'.
Click 'Search Services History'
Once your click it, I think it should show you your history by default (the heading should say 'Search Services History'), but if you're in 'Search Services History Settings', click 'View and delete saved history'.
From there, look through the different sections and look for images, audio, videos, files, etc. If you find any, delete them. This feature seems pretty new (as of writing), and the article is from June 10, so I don't think you have to go TOO far back.
Google's article about Save Media says this:
[Begin quote:] Some activity, like AI Mode or Ask Maps threads, contain links to the product where you can view interactions that include media like file uploads. [End quote. ]
[Begin quote:] My Activity may display thumbnails of images or videos you've viewed on Search services. These thumbnails arenât considered your media and so are not covered by your Save Media subsetting. [End quote. ]
After you're done deleting media, click the button that says 'Your Search Services History setting is off/on'.
If 'Save Media' is on, uncheck it. IIRC, it should be already off if you have search history off, otherwise it's on by default.
This will display some disclaimers. I recommend reading the disclaimers (including what's under the 'Learn More' which is pretty much a read more) if you're able to. It's where I found that thing about the training data being kept for up to 4 years.
Anyways, to turn off Save Media, scroll to the bottom of the disclaimers, and you should see the 'Turn off' button turn clickable. If you click it, you've now turned off Save Media! Woohoo!!!
Here's more info about how Save Media works (from this Google article again):
[Begin quote:] What your media includes
Your saved media includes your images, files, and audio and video recordings from your interactions with Search services. This includes things like Google Lens images, recordings from Search Live or Translate speaking practice, content you upload, and voice searches.
Saved media doesnât include media that you generate or modify with AI. It also doesnât include media you share publicly on Search services, like photos added to your reviews.
If your media is saved when the Save Media subsetting is on, itâll be shown in your Search Services History. You may need to expand an activity event or click a link to the original thread in products like AI Mode or Ask Maps to see full details.
You can stop saving your media with your history at any time. If you stop saving media, your existing text-based history, transcripts, and generative AI media responses will continue to be saved to your Search Services History. Learn how to find and delete your Search Services History. [End quote. ]
[Begin quote:] When the Save Media subsetting is on
When the Save Media subsetting is on, Google can save media from your interactions to your Search Services History. Learn more about what your media includes.
If you use your device without an internet connection, media may be saved in your Google Account once you go online.
If you previously opted-in to donate your image search history to improve Google services with the help of human reviewers, image donation will continue. Learn more about image search history donation. [End quote. ]
[Begin quote:] When the Save Media subsetting is off
When the Save Media subsetting is off, Google wonât save media as part of your Search Services History. Media from your future interactions with Search services will still be used to respond to you and help keep Google safe, but will not be used to train Googleâs generative AI models, unless you provide feedback.
When you turn off the Save Media subsetting:
This doesnât turn off Search Services History, which can still save your activity on Google Search services. This includes text-based history, transcripts from voice interactions, and generative AI media responses.
Previously saved media that you do not delete can still be used to improve Google technologies.
You can delete previously saved media in your Search Services History at activity.google.com. Saved media that has already been selected to train AI models is no longer connected to your account and is kept for up to 4 years, even if you delete the original activity.
Tip:Â If you got your Google Account through your educational institution, Google does not use your Search Services History data, including your saved media, to train generative AI models. [End quote. ]
[Begin quote:] Other places media may be saved
This Save Media subsetting doesnât affect media saved and managed by other Google services, like:
Gemini Apps
Google Voice
NotebookLM
YouTube
It also doesnât include media that you post or share publicly on Search services, such as reviews.
Tip:
Media that you generate or modify with AI isnât covered by your Save Media subsetting and is controlled by Search Services History. [End quote. ]
Here's more from the disclaimers. Some of it is a little redundant, but I thought it made things more specific:
[Begin quote:] Any media that you post publicly, including reviews, info, and any links that you share with others, is not included in this setting. This setting does not affect data that is not part of Search Services History, like data from other settings or features. For example, photos you upload as part of reviews in Google Maps and videos you create with other Google services, like YouTube, are not included. [End quote. ]
[Begin quote:] Text-based history, transcripts, and generative AI media responses from your interactions with Search services will still be retained and used if your Search Services History setting is on. [End quote. ]
[Begin quote:] This setting does not affect media saved by other settings, like Gemini Apps Activity, or media that you post or share publicly on Search services, including reviews. [End quote. ]
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so many misguided metaphors around violence and desire. if the open maw of a panting beast fills you with the want to be devoured, that does not make you prey. while the rabbit trembles in fear, its deepest desire is to run. evolution demands it. in fact, the desire to be eaten does not make you any small animal at all.
it is unfortunate that there's no reason for most people to remember high school chemistry because the best analogy I have found for "the amount of energy that it takes me to initiate a task, which can be higher than the amount of energy it takes to actually complete the task" is "activation energy" and it's not precisely perfect but
yeah. and you can even include "thing that reduces the barrier to doing the task" as a catalyst/enzyme
anyway. unfortunately this does not actually clarify anything for the average person. but #ToMe it works
Some things about this post since getting quite a few notes:
1. If you see this post, highly recommend taking it as an opportunity to set a timer for 15 minutes and switch over to ACTIVITY YOU ENJOY. if after those 15 minutes, you want to go back to scrolling, that's okay!
2. Huge shout out to this popping up in my notifs often, bc I do go back to activity.
3. I think there are times where scrolling is fine. Right now, for example, I'm being connected to a machine for two hours to donate plasma and platelets. Yes this is a brag but it is also a time where scrolling is one of the few things I can do. (Though I will probably also read or watch something on phone lol)
#i like how grunkle stanâs seatbelt is attached to the window because they clearly didnt animate it until the censors told them to (via @narwhalsarefalling)
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HELLO!! Remember when I said I'd like to draw your persona-profile-picture as a Lamb of sorts? I did! but from memory. >:3 đŤđŤ
(also I hope your summer's been going well! :)
-Follower Swooning-Sofa
ENG: Hi, sofa!
Wow!! A drawing of my persona!!! Thank you so much!!!!!!!! It's still morning here in Korea, and I'm so happy to receive such a meaningful gift to start my day. The horns on this creature are especially impressive. I really love horns! And I also love the long, furry body and the black legs. The legs actually remind me of tentacles. I really love tentacles too, haha.
Thank you so much for drawing this. Have a great day!!
you're welcome!! my day(and night in my realm lol)'s been great!! and improved by thine joy. and ohh that's such a good point! the legs are pretty floppy.. here's some design notes, if 'tis fun to think of! like:
your persona has horns (antlers?)
-> this is rather akin to Leshy's
I attempt to draw this and it comes out looking like claws
"wait a moment this resembles Narinder's claws/exposed lengths of bone" (impressed follower face >:)
sends the ask and gains so much loyalty /half-joking
Iâm not sure how many people realize that thereâs a way in which hurt/comfort is actually very kinky, because at its core youâve got this emotional power exchange fantasy where one character is vulnerable and helpless and the other takes care of them. In the case of stories involving grievous injuries, where someone is bedridden for a long time, you often end up with two characters in a 24/7 total power exchange relationship without a safeword. It just doesnât involve as many whips and dog collars.
I donât know much about the omegaverse. Do you learn when youâre an alpha omega or beta during puberty. Are there kids who get horrible sex Ed and have a shitload of misconceptions about how all this stuff works . Are there omegas who never got the proper education and think theyâre alphas for some reason for an embarrassingly long time until someone picks up their scent and is like âhey I can smell youâ and theyâre like fucking excuse me I thought I was just a guy who had the knot version of ED and youâre telling me I should have been bottoming this whole time??
I have so many questions about the logistics of what people do (outside the obvious) when they go into heat or rut. Do they just stay home from work? Do you have to call your boss all hot and heavy like âI cannot do my job as an accountant today. Too horny. Not possible.â And your boss has to sit there like yeah sure alright see you when youâre done. Do you think people have faked heats and ruts in order to get out of work. Do you think thereâs some slacker out there who âgoes into heatâ three times in a month just so he can stay home and play legend of Zelda. Heâs a beta. He doesnât go into heat.
What do two alphas do if they fall in love. Like romantically, they really like each other, they want to spend their lives together, they canât imagine being with anyone else. What do they do. Do they take turns. Can the alpha thatâs on the bottom have their knot pop when itâs not inside anything and they just have a swollen dick for a little while ?
Do some peoples heat cycles sync up like periods. PLEASE tell me that there are groups of friends that all get ravenously horny at the same time and will call each other up like âGIRL⌠GUESS WHOS NESTINGâŚâ and theyâll all be like âOMG BITCH ME TOO!!â
Do you think some alphas make it a job out of fucking omegas that donât have a partner. Like food delivery but for dick. Just put your address in the app and a stud will show up at your door like. Hey mamas letâs breed. Do you think thatâs a viable career option in this world. Do you think you could tell your parents thatâs the job that you have over dinner. Or is that not the kind of thing you would discuss in polite company. Or would it be disrespected and not looked super proudly upon because itâs like doordash .
Do you think a common fantasy a la chastity play and denial amongst omegas is being forced to take heat suppressants . Donât get mad at me for asking the real questions here
Honestly the omegaverse sounds kind of like a utopian free love society where people are very upfront about sex and sexuality ngl.
First of all: omegas can top and alphas can bottom. Alphas can bottom for omegas too. Generally during heats omegas prefer to be penetrated and alphas to penetrate but they can just use toys. Alpha â top. Omega â bottom.
With that outta the way here we go.
In most concepts of omegaverse you âpresentâ as your secondary sex during puberty, however some writers may decide to make secondary sex something people are aware of from birth/ very young. Usually the second one ties heavily in soulmate or destined mate* concepts, but the former can as well. Youâll find a lot of stories that show finding out youâre an alpha or omega (or beta) through a national blood/pheromone test at a certain age, or multiple times during life as test results can change slightly over time, in these stories being an alpha or omega doesnt do much until you fully âpresentâ during puberty.
Depending on the level of education in an individual story yes there can be garbage sex ed that tells you almost nothing of what to expect and how to deal with it. These concepts usually relate to omegas that donât bother to read their âtestâ results abt their gender and believe theyâre an alpha until they suddenly go into heat, or their test results were inaccurate all along. They also relate to stories that portray omegas as âlower classâ or simply sex objects. Bad sex ed stories usually include challenging stereotypes as a main focus.
Usually in omegaverse omegas are undesirable to hire due to heats being more frequent than alpha ruts, and thus more disruptive. so they lie about being an omega to get hired, and then either pump themselves full of heat suppressing medication, or call in sick every time. In stories where omegas are treated fairly they just call in normally lol. They keep track of their heats and they work with their job to get time off periodically for it, unless triggered by an alphaâs rut or pheromones, heats are pretty consistent unless they have some sort of condition that makes them irregular. Prostitution is a very common theme in omegaverse due to omegaâs not being able to get hired at ânormalâ jobs and societal pressures.
I imagine workplaces will require a doctors note or something to prove irregular heats etc if someone was abusing the âcall out for heatâ option. But omegas will often call out a day or so before their heat just to prepare better.
Some betas do pretend to be alphas or omegas to get further in life or to fuck more people. Its seen as sleazy and manipulative.
Alpha/alpha relationships depend on how the author wants to write the concepts of their society or biological instincts. Usually alpha relationships include a lot of domination and sexual fighting with the winner of the fight being the one to top (if they dont already have a dynamic that suits them) switching is common with both alpha and omega same sex relationships. In omegaverse these dynamics are either seen as normal or are extremely frowned upon. Usually they are kept secret to avoid conflict.
Sometimes if an alpha gets extremely aroused they can pop a knot without being inside something, this is common during puberty the same way boners are in teens. Its usually super uncomfortable and sensitive and legit physically cannot go away for at least ten minutes.
Heat cycles do sync. So do rut cycles. Heat and ruts can sync too. Not all omegaverse omegas nest but yeah they do have gc with friends lol.
Yes alphas make it a Job to help with heats. Theyâre called âheat aids.â In some omegaverse friends help each other through heats too, be it by just being around or sexually. Its usually seen as like kind of embarrassing to hire a heat aid cus it means you have no one else close to you or a bf/gf to stay with you to get you thru it. But its considered ânormalâ to hire one.
I havent seen a forced to take suppressants as a kink story but some stories have omegas fantasising about being confined to houses or rooms and used only to make babies (they call them âpupsâ pretty often).
All in all omegaverse is an EXTREMELY varied story device and no one has clear ideas for it, but yeah basically everything op said is a thing.
* A destined mate is someone so compatible with you or your pheromones that youâre considered âsoulmates.â Some concepts have this being a supernatural thing, while most keep it to being a pheromone/biological thing.
Originally typed this in tags and then decided itâd be better on the post itself, where I can add paragraph breaks:
#omegaverse reflects a lot of real world issues by magnifying them 100x #mostly for kink reasons but also for commentary
#omegas (women) being used as breeding stock; undesirable for/not allowed in the workforce; smaller and weaker and receptive #bad sex ed. heat suppressants/birth control. realizing at puberty that your place in society is not always a great one #it allows a framework in which you can place these struggles on male characters as well #or free female characters from them
#but it also caricaturizes maleness #alphas (men) as aggressive; dominant; socially prioritized; seen as either leaders or brutes with not much in between
#and you can play with all the gender fuckery all of that entails #it's like camp or drag; gender performance exaggerated to the point of absurdity that then asks you to engage with it anyway
#you can also turn a same gender (M/M of F/F) couple into one that occupies a âstraightâ societal role (A/O) #which might be healing for some or grotesque for others (and strangely intriguing either way) #or make it queer by ABO standards too (A/A or O/O or throw a beta in there somewhere) and go wild with it
#heats/ruts give space for very free and intense desire with a lack of inhibitions #which is something we don't normally allow ourselves to feel without criticizing ourselves #so it's a space to see and experience that within the safety of fiction #it's a thing you see with dubcon/noncon fantasies too (emphasis: Fantasies.) #if you weren't in control of what happened then you can't be blamed for it and you don't have to feel guilt/shame about the pleasure you felt; you can just allow yourself to feel it #again: not talking about real life here
#so as a framework ABO magnifies our cultural hangups and amplifies them until they're impossible to ignore #and then says: now what?
#and the answer comes back every time: fuck nasty style about it
Baffled by the startled dinosaur reaction. Why wouldn't omegaverse authors have addressed these things. That's half the point of creating a new biological/social framework; to explore it. To use it as an abstraction for exploring real problems. To poke at the edges and see how the world works. What else would Omegaverse fic be about? The entire genre can't just be ALL disconnected sex scenes.
I don't really care for sex scenes so I don't seek out omegaverse stuff (since it does also tend to have a lot of sex), but the ones I've read have been excellent analyses of social inequality and how it ties into biology both in reality and in terms of cultural myth (that is, using gender essentialism/stereotypes of difference as an excuse for oppression). Is this not the entire point of the genre?
Sorry to get up in arms in this but I'm so tired of the assumption that Whatever The Silly Horny Women Like must automatically have no depth. The Beatles were an important band. Romance is a valid genre. Mobile games are real computer games. A/B/O analyses social issues and has deep worldbuilding. Why must we do this again every generation.
Not aimed at OP, who I'm sure was legitimately asking real questions, but some of the people acting surprised that these questions have answers are pissing me off. There's comments in the notes like "if the genre actually addressed these questions then I'd read it!" Well you didn't look very hard, did you? Because it does address these questions. Regularly. It's a significant focus of the genre and even I, largely an outsider, know that. You just assumed, clearly without looking at all, that the entire genre must be nonsense porn without plot and with no connective tissue. Why? Why did you assume that?
Every. Fucking. Generation. I don't even care about a/b/o. I don't even care about The Beatles or the romance genre or mobile games. But I thought we were over this. I'm so tired.
When BĂŚddels Took Them: An interview and reflection on the BĂŚddelism movement
(This post on Medium)
How did you first learn about Baeddelism?
Vera:
I started dating a trans woman Iâd been hanging out with who was relatively cool at first, was also relatively popular on Tumblr, but started to get into very anti-men rhetoric.
This trans woman took advantage, I feel, of my actual, legit trauma of cisgender men, and she started wording that in a way to suggest that trans men were also dangerous. While there were some issues that I had with a few trans men, I donât feel that anyone- regardless of gender- is inherently good or evil.
Then I saw this personâs friends start referring to themselves as âBaeddelsâ- or some sort of quippy parody of the word.
How did you first come into contact with the trans women that introduced you to Baeddelism?
I met them in anarcho-feminist, radical marxist, radical communist spaces. Very heavily influenced by academia, and very white-dominated academic spaces.
What was your experience with Baeddels, and with Baeddel ideology as a whole, like?
A lot of word salad [laughs]. A lot of confusion, a lot of rewriting history and my own experiences. And what I mean by that is that they were rewriting my experiences, and taking ownership of them from me- like, they would explain my own experiences to me.
So sort of co-opting your experiences and narrative?
Yeah. Well, the co-opting didnât come until I started talking about intersex stuff, but they would definitely use my experiences of being antagonized as a kid, or the misogyny and sexism I experienced, to further their own narrative that they were inherently separate from.
What these Baeddels seemed to be saying was that women couldnât be sexist, and that men were; itâs this idea that they have, this, âIâm a woman, so I canât be hurtful to youâ. Any Feminist theorist will tell you that you donât need to be a man to enact misogyny.
Did you have more experience with Baeddels in person, or online?
I knew probably four Baeddels in real life, but most were online.
Online they were more willing to say things that were, for lack of a better word, stupid. They would say things that lacked any kind of logical sense. But in person, they would go into this kind of toxic femininity- this weaponization of weakness. And I think thatâs because online they were often in these echochambers, but in person they had to rely on much more subtle manipulation.
You mentioned that the trans women you interacted with were very often separatists- how did that manifest?
There was a time when I had predominantly been around men my entire life- and I enjoy dating men- and the first time I dated a trans woman, she told me that âthereâs no greater pleasure than a trans woman dating a trans womanâ. And I had never even really identified as a trans woman, I was just always seen as a really butch cis woman. She saw me as- and this is going to sound really self-absorbed- someone she really wanted to be. She was very tall, and I was very short, and she envied that kind of thing about me.
[The same woman] was dating a trans man, and she got really upset when he kissed me one time. He was her meal ticket at the time; he was working and she wasnât, he was cleaning for and driving her, and when I came in I started doing some of that cleaning for them. And they both took advantage of that, but I think she- and I see a lot of Baeddels do this, actually- theyâll have one trans man they can date, or that the group can date, and theyâll really use him, so very much, to do all the labor, the emotional labor, the cooking, and working to support them, because itâs âsafer to be a trans man than to be a trans womanâ. Which isnât true.
I think when he kissed me, she got really threatened by that- and thatâs when she started doing things like accusing me of making up an eating disorder. She called me out on Tumblr, which like, she convinced me to be on Tumblr in the first place because she wanted us to be like âhot Tumblr dykesâ- like some sort of internet power couple.
And I could talk at length about this, and the triggering my eating disorder, and trying to get me to be thinner, and thinner, and thinner. And that goes back to the intersex thing, because I know a lot of fat distribution is dependant on hormones. A lot of trans women- especially the thin ones- want everyone to look like them, like very skinny.
âI felt really lonely there, and stupid all the time. I felt like I was being a bad trans person.â
Iâve actually been told by a Baeddel that the fat positivity movement is inherently transphobic, because it talked about curves and body fat, and not all women have curves. And while thereâs room to speak about how exclusionary that can be to trans women, I was told that I was being transphobic for engaging in fat positivity because of that. Which is ridiculous.
It was very isolating. I didnât see my friends for a while, I was kind of just living with them, cooking and cleaning for them, starving myself, and slowly growing crazy. I was just being consumed by this weird academia and theory that had no basis, because everything was online and Tumblr-based.
I think I was coming from a place of being harmed by everyone in my life, and I needed a place to relate to someone; so any time I shared my experiences, they would go, âI relate to that!â, or âI experienced that!â
And I really hate to say this, but I donât think they experienced everything they said they experienced. I know one of the Baeddels had said that she had grown up a privileged white straight man, and now sheâs a lesbian, and thatâs the most oppressed thing. And I asked, âwhat do you mean thatâs the most oppressed thing?â And they said, âwell, the cis gay menâ- and well, what do you mean âthe cis gay menâ? Thatâs very conditional between race, class, and so many other factors. I donât know if they had ever been to the deep South, but I really donât know if a feminine cis gay man would have some kind of privilege like that.
Any time I asked questions there would be this very lengthy response, and the woman I was dating would use these big words she knew I didnât understand, and it was very hard to keep up with her privileged white woman academia. Thatâs what I see a lot of them doing through academic terms, even though they donât read theory at all- they just write their own theory. Which is, in my opinion, pretty dangerous.
It came to me at a point where I was very quick to weaponize anything anyone told me about their experiences, because I was always a fighter. Iâve been an activist for a long time, you know, and when these trans women would come to me with their experiences I would believe them. I wanted to. But the way they acted didnât add up when compared to what they were saying.
I felt really lonely there, and stupid all the time. I felt like I was being a bad trans person.
Where do you think those problems within Baeddelism come from?
Itâs difficult to say, because this was happening in the deep South, where I was at. And while I do think thereâs a lot of TERF ideology that provoked this response, I also think a lot of people espousing this were people that were from big, progressive cities- like Portland- who came in and took over these spaces I was in at the time.
I honestly think a lot of these ideas came from a need to prove that their existence is valid; like they needed to prove that they were women, feminists, and even survivors.
I think it comes from a place of insecurity, which leads them to feel that testosterone is evil, which leads them to really want to rid themselves of it, so they believe they must terrorize others for having it. They internalize this idea that testosterone itself is âbadâ. Theyâre trying to separate themselves from all forms of masculinity, and manhood, and testosterone- so they demonize it. Itâs very black-and-white thinking.
âThey would take in little bits of information and twist them to strengthen their claim to oppression.â
I found that a lot of Baeddels will identify very proudly as autogynephiles- and thatâs fine, but it was an aspect of how they would separate themselves from any kind of responsibility for their actions. If they hurt someone, they didnât want it to be seen as a âman thingâ. Because weâve been taught that âmen hurt people, but women never hurt people. Women are kind and nurturing, and they have eating disorders, and obsess over makeup, and all of these things. They never hurt each other.â Where that comes from is another story, but I think a lot of these Baeddels try to separate themselves from any responsibility for causing harm- because if they cause harm, that will link them to manhood. And thatâs not an excuse, but thatâs just kind of my theory.
Do you think thatâs driven by their own dysphoria?
Yes, absolutely.
Are there any specific examples of how Baeddels or their ideology was harmful to you that you would like to share?
One time I admitted to a trans woman lesbian seperatist that I had taken testosterone when I was in my 20âs. She, because I was âassigned maleâ, got really upset- and she would say, âhow could you put something so evil into your body, testosterone is grossâ. Which is so incredibly harmful; no one should be criticized for the hormones they put into their body. Especially intersex people, who have been mutilated and coerced into binary genders for the entirety of history. She made me feel like I was evil for using testosterone.
Another time, a trans woman said that I was privileged for being fat as a kid. Which is just⌠âfat privilegeâ is not a thing.
There was a lot of online bullying about my being short, because I had âshort privilegeâ- and that I shouldnât take up so much space in conversations, because even though Iâm âuglyâ I âpass betterâ because of my height.
One time I had a Baeddel tell me that âintersex people take up too much space in conversations about these issuesâ when Baeddels would try to reclaim âhermaphroditeâ. Iâd seen a lot of non-intersex people try to reclaim âhermaphroditeâ- I donât know if that happens so much anymore, but that was a big thing when I was starting to notice Baeddelism and the ways of thinking around it.
Could you share more about how they co-opted or spoke over intersex experiences?
When I was younger I developed a condition- Gynecomastia- which causes breast tissue growth. Baeddels would say things like, âoh, you must be so lucky,â and imply that I and even non-intersex fat trans women have some kind of privilege for having more breast tissue. They would weaponize this to silence certain people, saying they had âfat trans woman privilegeâ, or even âintersex privilegeâ- founded in this misconception that intersex people have these beautiful, androgynous, idealistic bodies. As if being intersex means to look like the opposite sex of what they were assigned at birth, which isnât what intersex is at all. Itâs a serious medical condition. I had serious learning and communication issues growing up because of my condition.
I would tell them a story about a male peer of mine grabbing my breast tissue, and they would respond, âoh, that happened to me; I was given a âtitty twisterââ. And that is a violation of consent, but it isnât the same thing. Having someone grabbing my chest tissue because it looked different from my cis peersâ bodies was not the same as a âtitty twisterâ, but they would say this was an example of me experiencing misogyny from an early age.
âThese people are co-opting the experiences of Intersex people and saying that the root of all oppression is transmisogyny.â
As an intersex person I was socialized with a micropenis, and I was expressing one time that it was used when I was a young sex worker- when I was 16- that it was a very scary thing because a lot of my johns were getting off on fucking me because I had like, tiny genitalia. So at one time I was criticizing this phenomenon of a lot of white trans women âliking tiny girldickâ because I felt it was creepy and uncomfortable. And a lot of Baeddels at the time called me transmisogynistic, because âwhatâs wrong with wanting a cute little girly dick?â
All I have to say is that as someone who was a sex worker at 16, an intersex person, and a CSA survivor- and they all knew this- this is a real experience that a lot of real people have, growing up with these things. And itâs seen as a fetish and a disability, but theyâre trying to make this a cutesy feminine thing. Not a lot of intersex people will agree with that, itâs very harmful. But they would just try to shut me down and call me transmisogynistic, and try to say that I was like, saying all trans women are pedophiles. And thatâs not what Iâm saying, Iâm just saying that itâs something that makes me feel weird.
I think the same person who told me that intersex people took up too much space in these conversations told me, while I was talking about genital mutilation and the hormones and steroids forced on intersex people, that I needed to be careful because I might do harm to the trans community trying to get people access to hormones.
I was talking about how intersex puberties can be delayed, and I was trying to relate those experiences of being alienated by my peers as being harmful, and she would try to make me sound like I was saying that kids shouldnât have hormones or puberty blockers- but you know, there are only two hospitals in the country who have said they wonât do these invasive surgeries on intersex people.
They would talk about how the gay community was always forgetting about the trans community, and Iâd point out that non-intersex trans people were constantly forgetting about intersex people. Thatâs a really dangerous rhetoric to have- if you donât have intersex people talking to you, youâre not going to understand those experiences.
There was one trans woman- I donât know if she was a Baeddel herself, but she was definitely around them- and she said, âI just got my hormones checked, and I have a tiny bit more estrogen than the average AMAB person has! Iâm intersex!â And like, the intersex experience is definitely different than just finding out later in life that you have slightly different hormones, yâknow, completely undetected until that point.
But sheâd come into these conversations and say, âas an intersex personâŚâ Which is something Baeddels would often do, using their identities to shut down anyone who had any kind of criticism of them; it was this identity politics thing- and so many people talk about identity politics without having ever read KimberlĂŠ Crenshaw and just totally shit on her work.
There were a lot of situations like that.
Could you describe how you witnessed them using associations with masculinity or manhood against people?
Iâm from a very rural public school where women fight- and I think thatâs something that a lot of rich Baeddels donât understand, is that women fight each other; especially in lower-class areas. And I remember one time I was in a heated debate with one of them; I donât remember what she was saying, but it had gotten to the point where I was like ready to take my earrings off and fight, and she was like, âno no no, fighting is a masculine thing.â Like she was trying to invoke dysphoria to make me not want to kick her ass.
And I was like, âhave you ever been to public school?â Violence is not a masculine thing, women have been doing it forever. I think that was one of the ways they tried to demonize masculinity.
There was another time where this white trans woman was taking up space in a black neighborhood, and it was very dark, after a show- and it was a big group of people, men and women, trans and cis people, all just kind of hanging out. A black man walked up and said, âhey guys, whatâs up?â And this one white trans woman started screaming at him very aggressively, accusing him of transphobia for saying âguysâ. And I was like, thatâs not transphobia, thatâs just colloquialism. It was just a weird thing for her to do, especially in a black neighborhood.
The same woman had some nazi language, and she would call us to defend it, saying, âitâs reclamation!â or whatever. And Jewish and rRoma people would tell her, like, âthatâs weirdâ but sheâd just go âIâm reclaiming it,â because, yâknow, trans women. I remember Baeddels trying to reclaim the black triangle as well, trying to claim it was for lesbians, but that was also a rRoma thing.
The way they adopt people into these movements is kind of shitty too- they would do it under this allure of âsafetyâ, and they would usually have their trans men lackeys on, so paralyzed in fear that they canât say anything, they âhave to protect the trans womenâ. Itâs so weird to me to see these, like, 6â2ââ trans women with their long arm spans put these super short trans men in front of their bodies, using them like these meat shields, almost. Theyâd say âyou should be protecting us!â and like, Iâm 5â3ââ! Iâd love to be that tall, Iâd feel so much safer. Itâs like they donât know how bodies work in the world.
Iâve seen them use these young trans menâs (or transmascsâ) own dysphoria agains them, weaponize it against them, and say, âdonât you want to be masculine? Donât you need this? You should fight for us and do this work- thatâs what men do.â Theyâd tell them to take out the trash for them because âthatâs what men do,â and itâs like, youâre my roommate! Take out the fucking trash, Itâs your turn! [Laughs]
And itâs so backwards, like, this is supposed to be gender liberating- but this isnât gender liberating. This is the same bullshit that the cis people teach us; we should be better than this. Theyâd use this academia to weaponize it against other trans people- even trans women, especially if they didnât match the ideal.
I knew this straight trans woman who was very open about this, that she liked dating men, and she didnât identify as queer. And sheâs also a street worker, right? But these trans women would say sheâs privileged because she likes men- and I mean, what? Sheâs a street worker. They were trying to hold her to the same standard that they hold straight cis people; this woman who was non-passing. And she was very open about this; she would recognize her experiences as different from other trans womenâs.
Trans identity is so fluid, so different, even depending on race, region- you canât tell any trans person how to navigate their own experiences. It was like trying to say this woman had some sort of privilege, like she shouldnât talk about her own experiences because she wasnât a trans dyke or something.
Could you talk about the trans women- especially the young trans women- who would get sucked into this ideology?
I hope this isnât going to sound awful, and it isnât something Iâm afraid of because the Baeddel movement has more of this grooming issue than anything else- what happened to me is I tried to live with one of these Baeddels, and she asked me out. And it was this slow decline where sheâd try to use transfeminism as a dating mechanism, which is just weird.
Itâs a grooming tool, to find people who are coming from a place of hurt and be like, âno no, come here, weâve got you-â if youâre pretty, if youâre white, if you follow our rules, if you date us. The number of times Iâve seen trans women who are attracted to men get told by these women that like T4T trans dykes is the way to go, and like, thatâs trying to change someoneâs sexuality. Thatâs not cool.
Could you tell me more about your feminist beliefs?
I mean that has a lot to do with my experiences with sex work, and it doesnât have a lot to do with my experiences with being trans. Itâs about marginalized genders- and I say that to refer to people whoâs genders have caused them to be pushed into these places where they have to fight to survive. My feminism is based in capitalism, and classism, or marginalized income through capitalism.
Baeddels will say that trans men, even the ones who havenât transitioned, have some sort of male privilege- which is a weird thing to put on someone elseâs experiences. Theyâll be super academic, use big words, and confuse people- especially people from lower-class areas who donât have access to the same education they do. So this trans man who hasnât transitioned, has been groomed to think he has some kind of magical male privilege in the world- that can get him killed! And thatâs fucking scary, I donât want that to happen. I would hope no one would want that to happen.
Privilege is not inherently based in class, gender, income- itâs so varied.
I try to take radical feminism and add my own understanding onto that. I try to read even the anti-trans radical feminists and understand that some of it does have good points, and try to understand how they came to that conclusion in order to dissect that.
It seems like Baeddels donât live in that kind of reality. They tell short people who are beat up because theyâre short that they have some kind of âshort privilegeâ- or that society hates tall women, which is based in transmisogyny; but they see short women as cute or adorable.
But thatâs not true; society sees short people as weak and easy to beat up, thatâs something youâd know if youâd ever lived as one. Iâm not saying short people are oppressed, but itâs very clear if youâve ever been a short person at a bar or at a concert that how they treat you is different from how they treat other people.
A lot of this is really based on Tumblr âsocial justice warriorâ stuff circa 2011, which is fine, but if you live in an echochamber online youâre going to start seeing all these patterns that just arenât there. Itâs kind of a conspiracy theory, honestly, this Baeddelism, âtrans women are the most oppressedâ, âtransmisogyny is the basis of all oppressionâ. Itâs very Euro-centric, trans communities being seen as kind of a white thing.
How do you feel about there being a resurgence of Baeddel ideology? Like, youâre on Twitter; youâre seeing this yourself.
Itâs terrifying. Trans people have a lot more exposure now, the community is growing, and Iâm scared that a younger trans woman might think itâs the âhipâ thing to do to identify as a Baeddel- instead of understanding that there is no inherently good or bad gender, and that we need to raise people and shape society in such a way that people are taught to be good to each other.
I think itâs really important to share these kind of stories, because I think that not a lot of people have run into these kinds of things in real life- have met Baeddels, and been able to recognize them. Itâs so much more subtle- itâs a manipulation you donât see online.
Itâs very scary to me to see this âBaeddelism 2.0â or whatever you want to call it- trans women becoming the TERFs of the trans community. Like, they see what TERFs do and they just re-enact TERF behavior. I see these Baeddel trans women kind of becoming what they hate the most, and replicating systems of abuse theyâve been subjected to themselves.
Itâs not doing activism any service, itâs not helping anybody. Itâs not even helping cis people- itâs helping no one. The root of abuse cannot be a hormone or a chromosome, and saying, for example, that trans men have âmind phallusesâ- thatâs an absurd thing to say. I donât understand how no one around them calls that out for how absurd it is.
Itâs getting kind of scary in a way that, well, I would be afraid if a politician- for example- was on the fence about trans people and stumbled onto these conversations, and the reaction they would have to seeing this kind of rhetoric. I donât feel like we have to be kind to our oppressors or whatever, but at the same time, weâre a very marginalized group with so many intersecting identities. To say that being a trans woman is inherently more oppressed than being Jewish is quite absurd, and itâs a dangerous ideology to fall into.
Is there anything else you would like to share?
I donât agree with Baeddelism. While I do recognize that there is misogyny and sexism in the world, I also believe there is a lot of intersexism that happens in non-intersex trans communities, and I think the voices of intersex people are really important.
I have a theory that the reason Baeddels tend to push down the voices of intersex people is because our experiences throw a wrench into that black-and-white thinking. The root of all oppression is not that of being a pure trans woman, in my opinion; we could talk about what the root of all oppression is all day long, but itâs not that.
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for the record as someone who has a pretty poor track record with day to day hygiene stuff like skincare and flossing, stacking those two things has really helped.
I've got a 3-step (four steps if you count washing face with cold water first) skincare routine (it is probably in a bad order but i don't care sorry baby steps) that I intersperse with tooth care. So moisturizer one, then floss while that's drying down, then moisturizer two, then brush my teeth while that's drying down, then sunblock and that's it i'm done i'm off to do whatever.
If i can't do it first thing in the morning i can do it after lunch or before bed (though i skip the sunblock if it's before bed) because perfect (rigid schedules) is the enemy of good (flossing at least once a day and trying to keep my skin from cracking open).
Sometimes people say things to you and it's exceptionally clear that they don't live someplace that has been hammering people on showering for five minutes or fewer each day. Makes me feel like an Atredies soldier on Arrakis. "No showers here, you scrub your ass with sand!"
But also *laughs in curly hair*
Anyway. Yes, it would be ideal to bathe daily, probably, and to wash my face daily, and to brush my teeth twice a day. However, this is a post explicitly about me attempting to successfully get to moisturizing my face once a day and flossing my teeth once a day. Saying "well actually it would be better to do all of that a lot more" doesn't help. I wasn't able to even brush my teeth once a day until my mid twenties. I still have trouble taking daily medication and miss doses at least two to four times a month.
There are lots of adults who struggle with hygiene and body care for a large number of reasons. Mine are a combination of ADHD and sensory issues (cannot fucking stand being wet; bathing twice daily sounds like torture, and this is also why I have trouble washing and using products on my face).
So I'll say it again: "Perfect (rigid schedules and attempting to hit the ideal goals when you're struggling with the bare minimum) is the enemy of good (flossing at least once a day and trying to keep my skin from cracking open)."
Obligatory reminder that it's a lot easier to recover from neglecting your hair than neglecting your teeth, and that your teeth should be the priority if you can't manage much body maintenance in a day. It's a lot easier to cut knots out of your hair than it is to have a root canal, and cheaper to boot, so try to brush as often as possible with fluoride toothpaste and try to floss as much as you can.
How frequently you shower is largely based on cultural tolerances for body odor and cultural notions of "cleanliness." Dermatologists generally recommend that people shower once daily to a few times a week, and they recommend only soaping your groin, armpits, and feet and avoiding exfoliants.
Replacing moisture in your skin or hair is not the same as natural moisture in your skin or hair. Shampooing too frequently can dry out both your hair and scalp, and if you strip moisture out of your hair with frequent shampooing, simple conditioning will not re-moisturize it and you will need to do more intensive (and expensive) treatments. If you put lotion on after every shower, that doesn't do anything to replace the beneficial natural bacteria on your skin, which leaves you more vulnerable to skin infections and skin damage.
You should bathe as often is as comfortable for you and as often as is necessary for you to avoid infection. If you're doing intense workouts in the morning and then going to your job as a UPS driver, it may be reasonable for you to shower twice a day. If you live somewhere that is extremely hot and humid, it may be reasonable for you to shower twice a day. If you're in a moderate climate working indoors and you don't frequently get sweaty, you don't need to shower every day.
If you have difficulty bathing because of mobility issues, sensory issues, motivation issues, or memory issues, change your undergarments daily and attempt to wash your body as often is as possible; if you aren't able to bathe as much as you would prefer to, using cleansing wipes on your groin and armpits can help you between baths and showers. ProCare wipes are one option, but there are a lot on the market (though even if these say "flushable" please dispose of them in a trash can).
There are a great many people in the world with a wide variety of experiences and personal physical differences. Some people find it relaxing to put on a moisturizing mask or sit in a hot bath for an hour, some people find that extremely unpleasant. Some people are very uncomfortable if they don't floss their teeth twice a day, some people have jaws that dislocate when they floss or find it difficult to stand over a sink for as long as it takes to floss.
Dentists DO recommend brushing your teeth twice a day and flossing your teeth once a day, but doing literally anything is better than not flossing or brushing at all. Here are some tips for improving dental hygiene if you aren't able to brush or floss as much as is recommended:
The purpose of brushing is to disrupt bacterial growth on the surface of your teeth. If you can't stand the feeling of the bristles, consider something like a baby toothbrush, which will have softer, more rubbery bristles. You can also use a cloth, or even just a finger with toothpaste on it if that's all that's available to you. Move your cleaning implement over your teeth in gentle, small circular motions.
Use fluoride toothpaste. If you hate the taste of mint, look for other flavors - there are a lot of different flavors for both adults and children these days, and it's quite likely that you'll find an option that tastes better to you than mint if you look online. But it does have to be fluoride toothpaste, and if you're an adult using children's toothpaste you may want to use a little more because that's not formulated for adults.
You're not actually supposed to rinse your mouth after brushing. You are supposed to spit it out if you've got a lot of foam, then let the toothpaste sit on your teeth. If you *have* to rinse after brushing (a lot of people can't stand the texture) try to wait a couple of minutes to let the fluoride work.
If you can't stand any kind of toothpaste for some reason, brush your teeth with a wet toothbrush. The mechanical action of the brush (or the baby toothbrush, or a soft cloth) alone DOES help to prevent damage to your teeth from bacteria.
Brush your tongue - this also disrupts bacterial buildup. If you can't brush the back of your tongue without gagging, brush as far back as you can and try to build up to brushing the back slowly.
If you can't use a roll of floss because you can't get your fingers in your mouth without pain, use floss picks or a water flosser.
If you can't use floss for any reason, actually, use a water flosser. A water flosser is going to do a good job of getting between your teeth and your gums to prevent plaque buildup.
Use your water flosser on the lowest power setting and use it with warm water - especially if you have teeth that are temperature sensitive!
It is better to floss occasionally than not at all, and if you can't floss at all it is in your best interest to try to brush your teeth as often as possible. I really cannot overstate enough that if you can do nothing else, your teeth should be your priority. If you can't shower, that's fine, it'll keep. If you can't floss, that's something to aim for, and something that can possibly be replaced with a water flosser. But you should at the very least try to brush your teeth once a day.
Seriously. Once a day, once every twenty four hours, can disrupt the bacteria that causes plaque. If you can brush your teeth once a day, you're doing a good job. And if you're building up to once a day, you're doing a good job.
If you're trying to get up to once a day for tooth brushing, keep toothbrushes around your home; keep one by your bed, keep one in your bathroom, keep one in your kitchen. You don't have to brush your teeth standing at your bathroom sink with a thick stripe of mint toothpaste and lots of water to rinse, you can brush your teeth sitting on your couch and watching cartoons on your phone with a sip of water and a dot of toothpaste on the brush. You can brush your teeth with a baby toothbrush and no toothpaste while lying in bed.
Good luck, and don't be assholes in the notes of my posts.