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I really can’t with the people who think MCU Frank enjoys killing and can’t stop, like it’s an addiction.
Like yes, I can see the argument that it’s a compulsion because he can’t stop until the world feels safe, but it will never feel safe because that’s just not how you end crime for good. But he flat out states in TPs2 that he doesn’t enjoy it.
In fact, the whole plot of s2 basically frames Frank’s relationship with violence as something he can’t escape, like these situations just keep happening to him because he can’t help but clock them, he can’t let it alone if someone innocent is in danger, and no one is competent enough to be able to kill him and end it.
But this gave me an interesting fic idea: what if it’s somehow discovered that Frank is cursed, and that’s why he’s stuck in this endless cycle of bloodshed and death, whether he wants it or not? How would he react if they lifted the curse and suddenly these situations stopped finding him? If he really couldn’t find another single crime to thwart?
I NEED KASTLE IMMEDIATELY !!!😭

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25 Days of DAREDEVIL BORN AGAIN countdown to Season 2 [10/25] Deborah Ann Woll as Karen Page
Frank: What would you do if it was Sarah? If there was a maniac coming after her, what would you do? David: Sarah’s my wife. Sarah’s my family. Frank: *after ragequitting* I’m only going to say this once. So is Karen.
karen is your wife and family… noted ✍️
I don’t know why I expected Kilgrave to be charming and not so utterly repugnant. It’s not like someone with mind control powers needs to be charming. I probably just could not picture David Tennant without charm.
Only meeting Jessica after her trauma is such an interesting exercise in trying to parse out how much of her personality is what she was like before and how much has developed as a result of the trauma
God the Netflix shows were good

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if you want to know what’s wrong with me you have to first understand that I saw this with my own two eyes nearly ten years ago
Apparently I couldn’t wait just 24 more hours for Born Again s2 to come out, so I’m digging into Jessica Jones eleven years late.
I knew it was supposed to be heavy. I thought I knew the kind of subject matter to be prepared for.
I…did not. Jesus Christ the end of that first episode is devastating. Devastating.
Kastle vs KareDevil?
Kastle
KareDevil
This guy is Jon Bernthal’s trainer and was apparently a consultant on the Special, so…..one more sign that our girl is DEFINITELY in the Special 😭😭😭😭😭
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That feel when you finally see Thunderbolts and you’re not sure if you hyped it too much for yourself, if the Defendersverse ruined any other dark or trauma-centric superhero stories for you, or you’re just having your own battle with the Void :-/
If you weren't watching Daredevil and the Punisher when they were coming out it may not be obvious to you-
But the Karen and Frank chemistry was an accident. They caught lightning in a bottle between two characters who never even interact in the comics, but the actors just go crazy in a room with each other.
And they assumed that the Punisher's audience skewed heavily male, that they'd refuse to watch anything not already established in the comics, and that they'd scorn any new plot where The Punisher feels love for anyone, so the writers/producers never fully went there. Even though they clearly know that Frank is made all the more interesting, all the more tragic, when he's not just wallowing in grief for a lost family- he's actively denying the potential of healing and love with a new person. He's consistently being offered a redemptive escape from the violent path he's chosen and he consistently denies it, even though it's clear as day how badly he wants it. That's a more interesting choice! It makes him more pathetic and self-denying, it shows him thinking that he doesn't deserve healing, it shows his conflicted awareness of his own morality, it makes him worse, it makes it clear that this character is tragic instead of aspirational.
So they gave as many hints as they could. The near kiss in the elevator, Karen's heartbeat, the dress Maria wears in his last vision of her (as he lets go of her hand) matching the fabric of the blouse Karen wore the first time he ever saw her, Karen insisting he try to love someone else instead of another war, Micro saying "that's my family that's my wife" and Frank responding "so is Karen." They made it as obvious as they could without actually saying it because they didn't want to piss off the fan base who wants Frank to be a static, stoic, one dimensional vengeance machine.
But now they're back after SEVEN YEARS and they're not fucking around. The first time they're on screen together it is Textually Acknowledged and Stated Out Loud that Frank Castle's heart does the fucking samba when he looks at Karen Page. Matt, the Human Polygraph Test, tells Karen that Frank loves her and that he knows how she feels about him too. (Not to even mention the way he looks at her and acts around her, because Jesus Christ, I have never seen anyone more obviously lovesick.)
This is wild. That's more than the writers really wanting to make it obvious but always hedging. That's more than the actors loading as much weight into each glance as possible because they're gunning for it so hard. It's not just hints, it's text. It's canon.