god I just love incest ships. the pining, the disgust at their own feelings, the secrecy and the 'we can't tell anyone about this', the way it all comes together so intensely... it all hits so good

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god I just love incest ships. the pining, the disgust at their own feelings, the secrecy and the 'we can't tell anyone about this', the way it all comes together so intensely... it all hits so good

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they match each other’s freak to a degree that is dangerous to the public
Ashley's dms:
Andrew [I need you so bad...]
Andrew [you're the only one for me]
Andrew [*9 paragraphs of cheesy poetry*]
Andrew [DON'T READ THAT, MY PHONE GOT HACKED]
Andrew [haha unless...]
Andrew [My friend stole my phone ignore that]
Andrew [whatever, I'm so over it]
Andrew [ou should kys]
Andrew [Wait don't! I love you!]
Andrew [Who said that?]
Andrew [it's a good thing you're too stupid to read]
Andrew [sorry my phone got hacked again]
Andrew [listen Ashley, what people call "love" is just a chemical reaction that compells animals to breed. Don't fall for it, break the cycle]
Andrew [uhm... just had a nightmare, is it alright if I come sleep with you 🥺]
Andrew [just kidding, youre the biggest nightmare in my life]
Andrew [kys]
Andrew [i need boobs NOW]
Andrew [sorry autocorrect, i meant i want to eat you out]
Andrew [sorry autocorrect, i meant i want to take you raw]
Andrew [sorry autocorrect, i meant you are the most important person in my life. I could never live without you...]
Andrew [sorry I meant to send that to my girlfriend whom i love very much]
Andrew [can you quiet the fuck down? I dont care that you are sending death threats to my girlfriend whom i love very much but im playing cod and youre killing the vibe]
Andrew [mom was right, we never should have been born]
Andrew [what does mtf mean?]
Andrew [what is an egg?]
Andrew [shut up ugly]
Andrew [just had a nightmare again 🥺]
Andrew [mom said Im going to disney land but youre not coming. There are leftovers in the fridge]
Andrew [who was that man who stood righjt next to you for 26 continous minutes on the night of the 3rd of april? Why did his elbow brush up against you? Are you a fucking whore now? Did you atleast use protection with your little "boyfriend"? How big was he??? I bet I'm bi]
Andrew [im going to kill myself]
Andrew [Where are you? Ashley answer me right now I came as fast as I could even though I wasjust on a date with Julia whom I love very much when I heard you stubbed your toe a little. Are you okay. Oh my god baby we are going to survive this, I'm coming to you.]
Andrew [saw a trashcan. reminded me of you]
Andrew [if you look at another man im going to commit terrorism]
Andrew [god i dream about fucking you on our parents' bed every night, im so hard just thinking about you laying there covered in my]
Andrew [I GOT HACKED AGAIN]
Ashley Graves is asexual to me, or at least not conventionally allo/het. All the fan fics/comics where she is depicted as explicitly and hopelessly horny for Andrew feel out of character to me. Like that isn’t how Ashley talks about sex in the actual game. She doesn’t express sexual attraction, not even towards Andrew, despite her being otherwise deeply in love, dependent on and obsessed with him and not afraid to show it.
Ashley jokes about sex for sure, but finding sex funny and having sexual attraction are two different things. And like Ashley’s attitude to sex tends to be transactional, as when she thinks of having sex it’s not for its own sake, but as a way to get something. Having sex with the neighbor and getting pregnant to escape quarantine, or doing sex work.
Ashley’s joking attitude to sex and lack of expressed sexual attraction mirrors Andrew in a way. He is obviously extremely horny for her but has severely repressed it, and he is rather humorless about Ashley’s sex jokes, because the subject of sex is a sore spot because of that repression. Andrew only laughs at her blowjob joke in the incest vision because he is finally letting go of that repression and can see the humor.
Now, Ashley being asexual and not into Andrew in that way doesn’t mean coffincest isn’t real. She has good reasons to fuck Andrew that isn’t sexual attraction. Andrew might break if she doesn’t. The decay route shows Andrew might go insane and kill Ashley and then himself as the only way to resolve the contradiction between who he is, an incestous murderer-cannibal and his desire to be normal. And even on the “sane” non-incestous burial route, the sibling’s relationship is noticeably colder than on the “questionable” incest route. That’s because Andrew is holding back his affection for Ashley because of his repression of his incestuous desires.
And above all Ashley wants Andrew to drop the act of being aloof from her and finally admit his love for her. Part of coffincest for my brain is that it is Ashley being transactional about sex again, but what she gets out of it here is very much everything she wants. An Andrew who can freely and fully admit to his feelings for her, who doesn’t repress or uses other women for sex as substitutes for the woman he actually desires. And well, there are many asexuals who don’t experience sexual attraction but enjoy the act of sex, maybe Ashley is one of them.
(Of course I am open to another explanation for why Ashley is the way she is about sex: she is a repressed lesbian who can’t fully express her feelings until her sister’s egg cracks, but that’s probably a whole other post)
To me Ashley reads more like someone who had made somewhat peace with her unrequited feelings after having had been desperately yearning for a guy who constantly shuts her down for more than a decade. As long as she can stay with Andrew, even if he doesn't love her back, even if he hates her, she doesn't care.
She is brash and confident, she knows who she is as a person and doesn't care about anyone else or what others might think of her to the point that even basic human decency or the concept of morality mean very little to her (unlike her brother who tries to fit in and be normal, act normal), but when it comes to Andrew she constantly falters and lets her doubts and anxieties slip through. She is too insecure to really believe (until chapter 2, burial route) that Andrew would ever love her, because, as she had insisted multiple times (for example Nina's death), she believes that he wouldn't ever choose her and if she hadn't managed to successfully trap him, he too would have left her already, just like everyone else. Deep down, under her nonchalant facade, it seems like she had already accepted that Andrew doesn't love her and would never be able to love her, even if she despises the fact.
And can you even blame her? I mean you can, she is a fucked up person as a whole, but the whole world is crazy in one way or another, she has some real fancy untreated problems and the only guy who matters in her life, who is both her brother, her caretaker, her only friend and her romantic interest all in one, is also an asshole who can not make up his mind for shit and there is only so many times one can be rejected before they take it to the heart to some extent.
Andrew is a pussy, there is no going around that, he wants her just as bad as she wants him but he is too scared to admit it. I think the main reason he even dares to be so abrasive to her is only because he has full confidence in the fact that Ashley will always stay with him, no matter how hard he pushes her away (and he is right, even after 2 murder attempts Ashley will still go "omg relationship goals <3").
So the two of them are locked in this volatile, vacillating but relatively safe game of tug of war that neither of them is willing to let go of, but the minute they ease their grip (burial route, Ashley starts trusting Andrew, Andrew is more honest with her) their relationship starts to get more gentle and loving, which Ashley has a hard time dealing with. She gets the one thing she had ever wanted, Andrew's undivided love and yet the minute she gets it she folds? She looks so lost and unable to deal with this new development their relationship took and nor can she stop herself from questioning this newfound fondness Andrew shows her so openly. Your honor, my client is showing clear signs of insecurity here, which the vision does little to ease btw, because had grown far too accustomed to the hopelessness to see it for what it is, or to put it another way, she is dumb as Fuck. Just look at how even after AAAALLLLL that she still makes a comment about how it had shown her a new way to keep him around, because she is still thinking about having to "keep him around". There is Literally no need for that GIRL SNAP OUT OF IT 😭😭
What I'm getting at is that Ashley is too down bad to realize that Andrew would ever reciprocate her feelings, so the idea of their relationship turning sexual (without romantic feelings) doesn't really excite her and I don't blame her. Allo, demi, ace, doesn't matter in the overall picture here, most people wouldn't want to have sex with someone they are Crazy in love with, when the other party doesn't even love them back and they just want to use their body for sex. Most self-respecting adults (who don't have a kink for that) would turn that shit down, but Ashley isn't like most self-respecting adults, in fact she isn't self-respecting at all, no matter how unfullfilling and maybe even self-destructive it would be for her, she would willingly do anything to make him stay. Because she is an idiot who managed to miss the whole point like she was dodging bullets. Atleast, that is my interpretation.
i had a dream i was watching dungeon meshi and they found falin and figured out how to get her human body back and there was a scene where she and laois were laying next to each other in bed talking and then she rolls over on top of him and they start MAKING OUT??? and like the camera was zooming in on their mouths sliding over each other i was like [pussy throbbing] HELLO????? 😳😳😳😳 and then after the episode was done i immediately ran to tumblr to post "GET FUCKED NORMIES... TOUDENCEST IS CANON!!!!" 😭
As much as I love the fact the incest vibe between Ashley and Andrew was so undeniable that even their mom noticed it and just could not believe that they WEREN'T screwing already, the way she acts like wanting to fuck her is the ONLY reason Andrew could ever have to side with her and sacrifice their parents to the demon pisses me off the more I think about it.
Renee literally made Andrew parent Ashley, went out of her way to make it so Andrew was the person she'd rely on for any kind of emotional support, had them share a bedroom their whole lives, then literally sold them and did not give a fuck that they would starve and die in a cruel way, having no one but each other to turn to during that torture because they could not leave the apartment.
Yet she's surprised that Andrew not only resents her, but also feels a sense of obligation to Ashley and actually cares about her in his own fucked up way - aka she failed to do as a parent because she simply could not be bothered.
She simply doesn't understand the basic concept that Ashley could have any vallue as a person, even for someone that was forced to stand by her side his entire life. She doesn't accept that Andrew could ever resent HER for everything he had to endure instead of just blaming Ashley and no one else. She doesn't get that they are trauma-bonded because she doesn't believe she traumatized the fuck out of both of them.
Also the NERVE and complete lack of self-awareness this woman has for calling Andrew disgusting for the incest, even though it was all caused by her own screw ups as a parent. Again, they slept in the same bedroom, their whole lives - childhood, adolescence and first years of adulthood. Then she had them be locked up in the apartment together. Alone. Even though she was already getting weird vibes from them for a while.
She's practically forcing them to cross that line, then gets mad when she thinks they actually did it.

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people will be like "you can't ship incest that's disgusting and morally reprehensible >:(" and then never shut up about sexual cannibalism and toxic yuri and murder as a form of love. do they not see the double standard? none of those things are acceptable irl and that's the point!! we explore them in fiction it's all fiction. characters are pretend

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