Don't waste your time or mine

"Come on, Azula, you can't be that naive. He's just being nice because he thinks you'll let him fuck you"

"Not all guys are like that, Zuzu"

"Yes, they are"

https://simplysnaps.tumblr.com/post/747473164447236096/hannah-montana-is-fucked-up-because-its-entire

This person is, paradoxically, taking Hannah Montana too seriously AND not giving the writers/Disney enough credit on just how fucking EVIL they were.

Right off the bat, they misunderstood the REAL point of Hannah Montana. That alterego was never about the show's true, genuine message being "children should not be famous", that was just their excuse to do Disney's favorite marketing tool: YOU, dear 6-year-old, can be just like Hannah Montana if you buy our shit.

It was the gimmick of literally every Disney Channel show at the time. Wild fantasy life meets "relatable." Zack and Cody lived in a luxury hotel, but they were not rich, their mom just worked there and slept on the damn couch while the twins shared a bedroom, went to a regular school and often need to scheme to have access to the true perks of the hotel. Alex Russo had literal magical powers, but she worked at her family's shitty sandwich shop and was a disaster in school. Sonny With A Chance is literally "Girl gets to join her favorite TV show" aka what every Disney Channel fan wanted to happen to them.

Miley Stewart was a loser who got bullied in school - but was secretly a super talent, rich, world famous singer that would go on stage every night and sing "UNDERNEATH IT ALL I'M JUST LIKE YOU!"

Most importantly: a recurring theme in the show was "Miley can't keep up the LIE forever." Because Hannah was not just some stage name tat everyone knew was meant to protect the real identity of whoever was behind the persona.

"Hannah" has friends and even boyfriends that can't know about her life as Miley, and vice-versa, and that conflict has repeatedly either ruined relationships or forced her to come clean to them - meaning they now have to lie to the other people in their lives because of her secret. One of the main reasons she tells the truth to the whole world in the final season was because her boyfriend was being treated like shit for "cheating on Hannah" with MILEY.

Robby Ray Stewart might have meant to protect his daughter, but his plan caused A LOT of problems too, and that was a deliberate writing choice. Because we were meant to WANT to see what would happen once the cat was out of the bag, we were meant to WANT Miley to leave behind her "normal" life, because it was pure wish fullfilment to us, the viewers. It was never about her and THAT is the fucked up part.

And I HATE having to defend Billy Ray Cyrus, but the "he tried to create a separation between himself and the character, but not between his daughter and her character by using a different name while she used her real name" is a flat out lie.

Let's not act like it takes a genius to connect that "Robby Ray Stewart, the failed country singer that sings Billy Ray Cyrus's songs and even claims to be the guy, by name, in one episode, is indeed Billy Ray Cyrus" is too difficult of a concept for kids to wrap their heads around. I am not even american and knew nothing about this man's career and could still connect the dots when I was little.

Most importantly: Miley was not yet legally called "Miley Cyrus", her actual name back when the show was first filming was "Destiny Hope Cyrus", with "Smiley Miley" being a cute family nickname. She changed it officially because of legal advice giving to her family protect herself from DISNEY potentially suing her if she were to use the name in future, non-Disney projects.

Yes, they needed legal advice to protect Disney from copyrighting a family nickname this girl had been called her whole life and potentially banning them from using.

Oh boy, here we go again.

I heard about 6 songs from her, liked half of them, don't even know enough about her work to be sure if it is or isn't my cup of tea. Don't know shit about her as a person and thus have no opinion on THAT.

What I DO know and DO have a strong opinion on is: she's yet another singer that DESPERATELY needs a new PR team because they're either screwing her over either trying to push the "rebel" role too hard or letting her ruin her own career by genuinely not knowing the difference between "public figures still have a right to basic respect" and "you're just flat out unsuited for the job no one is forcing you to have."

Calling out paparazzi for randomly chasing her car down the street, shoving cameras in her face when she's trying to eat, yelling obscene/rude shit when they see her, or camping outside her house? 1000% justified, that is stalker behavior, might as well pull a Bjork and punch one of them.

But getting pissed that professional photographers that were hired to take pictures at the red carpet, that SHE HAS THE OPTION TO SKIP IF SHE DOESN'T WANNA BOTHER, are yelling "Chappell, look over here! Chappell, pose like this!" because that is literally what they were hired to do and then they just fuck off? Give me a fucking break, next she'll go "Don't yell at me!" because fans are scream-singing lyrics from the top of their lungs at concerts - what did you expect, girl?

Yeah but in like 2019-2020 people on Tumblr refused to believe anybody shipped those two

Again, that's what tumblr is like for me RIGHT NOW. People have always openly liked freaky shit and pearl clutchers have always had two MOs - nonstop shaming and non-stop denial.

Is it not liking the direction Bryke and new writers are taking or is it more thinking the world’s already told its story after the originals ending?

One is a consequence of the other, really. There WAS stuff to be explored after the original show - but stuff that could only lead to enough material for a fourth season, OR a comics series, OR a new 3 season show.

Not a new season, two different comic series, a movie (or several) AND multiple shitty live actions. At least not without very careful planning to make sure they had good ideas, and time to polish these ideas, and with the writers not being arrogant to the point of refusing to just retcon stuff that didn't work.

To use two very clear exemples: Mulan (1998) and Buffy The Vampire Slayer.

Mulan's arc, and thus the movie, would be completely different if she was a man.

Ping/Male!Mulan wouldn't get in trouble for trying to step in when his father is being called to war, and it sure as hell wouldn't be illegal and punishable by death for him to go in his dad's place. He's young and healthy, it is HONORABLE of him to spare his sickly father of going to war, especially when said father already fought before.

Considering how much Mulan improved her warrior skills, and how fast it happened, it's clear that her initial struggle was mostly about never having been given the opportunity, or even permission, to do anything like that before.

But Ping would have been expected to do at least SOME basic fighting things, or even just pure stregnth-building exercises, especially as the only son of a war hero. MAYBE his slacker tendencies get in the way a little, but nothing too crazy, since Mulan was never lazy AND was very thoughtful whenever it came to things that were important to her family.

Right off the bat, the stakes are lower (protagonist is better prepared for the challenge, is not commiting a crime punishable by death or risking being shunned by his family when he returns) and thus the psychological tool on the protagonist doesn't go beyond "Boy, this is war, take it seriously."

The songs, which are a central element of Disney, also either stop making any sense and need to be cut (Honor To Us All, Reflection) as the protagonist is no longer a young woman who is dismayed at her own inalibility to live up to the standards set for women and getting severe impostor syndrome over it, and "Be A Man" and "A Girl Worth Fighting For" lose their ironic tone ("Did they send me daughters when I asked for sons?" YES, they did, and boy, will you be grateful for that soon).

Any romantic vibe between Ping and Shang would either be cut OR force Disney to give us Actual First Gay Characters for once (impossible, but a girl can dream), so either way, no Acidental Bisexual King Li Shang, no cheeky "jokes for the parents" of Ping saying he never wants to see a naked man again as he'd have no reason to be flustered at the thought of it, no need for Ping's friends to dress up as women (or at least unlikely that anyone would come up with the idea)...

And most importantly, our protagonist now learns a lesson but doesn't TEACH one. Because the system didn't fail him and he didn't save everyone by going against it, he saved the day by doing exactly what everyone already expected of him. He didn't have to trust his gut and go against society, tradition, law and even his own family, he just had to learn to do what he was told.

The themes of devotion to family, to the country and to the innocent are still there, but it becomes a COMPLETELY different movie if Mulan is a man.

Buffy is all about the struggles of growing from a girl to a woman - starting from the fact that the Slayer is ALWAYS a young girl, one that usually doesn't live too long not only because the monsters (a TON of which are subtextually, and sometimes explicitly, male sexual predators and/or killers feel sexual gratification through torture/murder, and that often have a vendetta against women in particular) are all after her...

...but also because the Council of Watchers, a group of grown men who constantly and maliciously fail to tell her important information to deal with enemies and pay each other very high salaries while she works for free, deliberately force them through a "test" against deadly foes WITHOUT THEIR POWERS in an attempt to get rid of them before they're old enough to realize "Wow, these guys suck AND I'm the one who can crush skulls here, why am I listening to them and not the other way around?"

Buffy being a regular looking girly girl is also a recuring reason why people don't expect her to be as strong as she is - and her "double life" as the Slayer was not so subtly tied to anxieties about her sexuality as a young woman.

She's meant to kill vampires, yet two out of her three major romances were with vampires, she got sexual pleasure out of being fed on by both Dracula and Angel, and first had sex with Spike (tearing a whole house down in the process) after learning that the chip that made it impossible for him to hurt humans no longer worked on her - and his praise that he had never been with such an ANIMAL before brought on a whole lot of shame for her.

All of these guys being much older than her, and the fact that her dad is absent from her life, were also highlighted constantly, as well as the at best problematic and at worst predatory power imbalance that created (see Angel losing his soul and turning back into Angelus, the rapist and murderer, after first having sex with 16-year-old Buffy and it very much being treated as "Older man shows true colors after getting what he wanted from the girl he groomed", with the extra trauma of "It was Buffy's first ever sexual experience")

Her only human boyfriend, Riley, constantly felt threatened by her "Slayer side", feeling insecure about his own, literal, bodycount compared to Buffy's, not liking that she is much stronger than him and, above all, being constantly paranoid that she'll leave him for a vampire.

The double life thing is also constantly treated as a not so subtle metaphore for not being fully straight. The scene of her mother finding out she's the Slayer, and then kicking her out of the house for it, is not subtly treated a coming out scene (including a "Have you tried NOT being the slayer?"). Buffy and Faith, aka another slayer, have a TON of lesbian subtext (with Faith infamously asking Buffy "Doesn't slaying always make you so hungry and HORNY?"). Riley's disapproval of Willow's past relationship with a werewolf (and then paranoia about Buffy's past with Angel and potential future with Spike, two vampires that canonically got it on with each other might I add) mirroring Buffy's initial poor reaction to Willow having a girlfriend, etc.

She's hated because her role is clearly to be Azula's replacement AND she's the direct consequence of one of the WORST plots the comics ever introduced, with Ursa forgetting her own kids and getting with Mister Cardboard.