Since it wasnβt letting me reblog that post, Iβll do it like this. If you consider enslaving and killing thousands for a purpose which hasnβt been fully explained yet to be completely normal and justified Normal? No, Justified? As long as it actually succeeds, then yeah, sure, if he succeeds in forever killing/sealing Bahamut the amount of lives heβd be saving in the future would be a million times higher than the lives lost by what heβs done now. If he fails, then sure, burn him at the stake, whatever, but as it is, thatβs not what Iβm arguing. All Iβm saying is that if he wins, heβs justified.Β And as for it beingΒ βnot explained yetβ that just means that, in the case that it happens, then this is the stance I take on it. If something else happens, which is highly unlikely, then what Iβm saying will mean nothing since it wouldnβt correlate to whatβs actually happening in the story. Ninaβs father was killed byΒ βsurprise! Bahamut!β yet she didnβt start a genocide βPeople are different from each other and react differently to tragic situations, more news at 11β³. I mentioned Charioceβs mother since, at this point in the show, she and Nina are basically the only people heβs ever actually shown to care about. And again, considering that he has to keep going back to his mothers grave to steel his resolve and rid himself of guilt about all the horrible shit heβs done, Iβd imagine thatβs pretty obviously because sheβs the victim of Bahamut that means everything to him, and that going there confirms his resolve to keep going in order to kill Bahamut, even if it means the suffering of others.Β
Itβs the last thing Iβll say on the matter, because itβs useless.
Angels and Demons both showed that they can defeat Bahamut together. When they fight together they can seal it. Bahamut is immortal creature that βcan never dieβ as Favaro said at the end of Genesis.
We know nothing about the power Chari possesses. Obviously, at least for now neither angels nor demons know the full extend to that ancient power. But Chari - a mere human - should know it better than them?
In Genesis Beelzebub also forcefully freed Bahamut, because he thought he could control his power. His plan backfired! Now Chari is doing the same because HE THINKS he can kill it! EVEN IF HE CAN, WHERE IS THE CONNECTION WITH THE MASS MURDER OF GODS AND ENSLAVEMENT OF DEMONS? HOW THIS ANCIENT POWER WILL ALLOW HIM TO KILL IMMORTAL CREATURE WHICH COULDNβT BE KILLED SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THEIR TIME, BY KILLING AND ENSLAVING THE OTHER TWO RACES?
WHEN THIS EXACT CONNECTION GETS EXPLAINED, then weβll talk about Chariβs actions at full speed, because NOW he kills and enslaves because HE CAN! NOT BECAUSE THIS WILL BE GOOD FOR THE 3 RACES IN THE DISTANT FUTURE!
You mean to tell me that he will free the rest of the demons once Bhamut is defeated? Or heβll send a condolence card to Gabriel for all angels he killed? Or he shouldβve apologized to Jeanne if he indeed managed to kill Mugaro if the story took a different approach? And heβll be forgiven because everything was for the greater good? Yeahβ¦.rightβ¦β¦
And BTW thanks for editing your previous post where you called me stupid! Nice try! No other reply on that matter will be seen from me.
'Angels and Demons both showed that they can defeat Bahamut together.' The highest class angels and demons had to literally give their lives in order to stop Bahamut, and even then, they only managed to deal it. Pretty much the same from Genesis's case, if they didnt have Anita they would have been absolutely fucked.
'But Chari - a mere human - should know it better than them? '
This has literally nothing to do with what I'm arguing. My most basic fucking point, which I have stated multiple times, is that IF Cheerios's plan works then his actions will be justified. If hey fails, then it won't be. The whole thing about the whole 'ends justifying means' thing is that you NEED to have the right ends in order to justify the means, as if that wasn't already super obvious.
EVEN IF HE CAN, WHERE IS THE CONNECTION WITH THE MASS MURDER OF GODS AND ENSLAVEMENT OF DEMONS?
Literally already said this in another post, but fine. He attacks and enslaves a large amount of demons to basically become a slave cast, to the ends of Cheerios being able to untilize the demons as slave labour to help with the construction of dromos + mining the green shit that powers it ((possibly because it gives humans that black veiny cancer shit, unknown at this time)). And he's attacked the gods in order to steal many ancient magical relics, which are apparently being used to help run/sustain the seal on Bahamut in Eibos.
HOW THIS ANCIENT POWER WILL ALLOW HIM TO KILL IMMORTAL CREATURE WHICH COULDNβT BE KILLED SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THEIR TIME
We'll have to just wait and see on that one, I'm only arguing the results in which he's right and the plan works.
NOW he kills and enslaves because HE CAN! NOT BECAUSE THIS WILL BE GOOD FOR THE 3 RACES IN THE DISTANT FUTURE!
You can make any assumptions you like about how this is going to really end, but thinking that Cheerios is doing this shit on a whim or 'just because he wants to' is just blatantly untrue, he has a set goal that at this point is obviously not something as simple as a racial supremacy agenda.
You mean to tell me that he will free the rest of the demons once Bhamut is defeated? Or heβll send a condolence card to Gabriel for all angels he killed? Or he shouldβve apologized to Jeanne if he indeed managed to kill Mugaro if the story took a different approach?
In all likelyhood Cheerios will be dead by the end of the series regardless of whether the plan works or not.
And again as it is, you're just looking at things 100% subjectively when you need to be looking at the bigger picture. I'm arguing about how Charioces actions would be justified if he manages to defeat Bahamut completely. And IF, he does, then Jeanne, Mugaro, Gabrielle, basically all the angels and demons who have suffered and died up till now would barely make a fucking dent in the amount of people who would be saved in the future since Bahamut no longer exists. I don't know how many times I've said it before now, but again, it's basically a question of, would you save one person, or 100 people, even if those numbers are multiplied by a million, the answer is the same when you look at it objectively, even if it's horrible, and even if it still makes you a bad person.
Also, goddamn either commit to the argument or just bow out and fuck off, because blocking someone from replying to you does nothing to prove your point, and only makes you look like a baby who can't handle a discussion about goddam Chinese cartoons.
