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HI!! I was wondering if maybe you could help clear up some fanon vs. canon debates about Tim Drake?? š I'm a newer fan, and I was curious if you could discuss some common misconceptions about him and his character? (Such as the whole "stalker" thing, or never sleeps/always drinking multiple cups of coffee, that sort of stuff!)
Thank you!!
I would absolutely love to, you have no idea what a treat you just gave me lol. Iāve been too lazy/ ADHD (+ there are people I think are much better at it) to write my long form posts in a long while but this gives me an excuse lol plus I LOVE correcting misinformation. That being said, prepare for a long response. In fact, Iām just gonnaā¦.pop a cut here preemptively š š
Tags via @eerie-five GOD ur so right and itās been a problem for me personally š«© this fandom has a particular fanon problem thatās very insidious and Iāve never been in a fandom before where I had to be so stressed and careful about what I write lmao. Anytime I use something non-canon I try and make it clear in the authors note so I can be part of the solution instead of part of the problem, but tbh my stress surrounding the whole thing just made me stop writing (or publishing, anyway) DC fic altogether for the time being lol.
I always think itās really interesting when people say that the Drakeās appear to be a happy family at the circus, because maybe itās the lens of time (these comics were released 10 years before I was even born), maybe itās my own personal bias (I love my mommy and have issues with my dad), maybe itās a mixture of the two or something else entirely, but Iād love to talk about my reading of it, without trying to insist mine is the correct one and anything else is invalid, because I donāt even think that. (Nooo this has nothing to do with a larger post thatās been sitting in my drafts progressively getting worked on for over a week, why would you say that)
For our first look at the Drakes at the circus, we have Batman: Year Three Part One, Batman #436. In the first panel they speak in, Tim is entranced by Dick and his acrobatics, Janet does the classic parent āyou can be anything you put your mind toā encouragement, and Jackā¦.shuts this down, for some reason. Is it likely for Tim to become an acrobat with skills on par with Dick Grayson? No. Does he need to tell Janet not to tell Tim to dream? Also no. Yes, theyāre smiling, and heās likely teasing and being lighthearted butā¦it just makes me really uncomfortable.
We do see their reaction to the Graysons falling, and I will say that they are both obviously upset and horrified by this turn of events. Janet is even crying.
Janetās first thought is immediately of Tim, though. Sheās holding him, telling him not to look, and telling Jack they should leave and bring Tim home. Jack, while he does put his hand on her shoulders, seems almost fixated on the spectacle. I will admit this could absolutely be projection on my part, but notice how he, like most of the rest of the crowd, is staring at whatās happening in both panels while Janet is looking away.
The more concerning dialogue, in my opinion, is when we get the recollection from Timās point of view in a lonely place of dying part three, Batman #441.
Yes, I will admit, all three of them have huge smiles. They look happy. But again, the dialogue stands out to me. Apparently, taking Tim to the circus had been a debate between the two of them, and Janet tells Jack that he had been right and Tim appears to be having a great time. Jack pats himself on the back for being right, causing Janet to have to justify why she had been nervous, even pointing out that itās a motherās job to worry about their kids. Jack says what basically amounts to āgirls are scared of everything and boys are brave so you had no reason to worry about Tim.ā Which yes, you can argue that the dialogue is just dated, but Janet points out that heās being sexist. Jack apologizes, but itās a very placating one. āOkay, okay. Iām sorry. If youāre SO WORRIEDā¦ā is how it reads to me. Yes, this entire exchange is very jokey and lighthearted, but as a nanny, I canāt tell you how many times I watched parents fight like they were joking in this exact manner even down to how one of them ends up apologizing in an over the top placating way because they were fighting in front of their kid and didnāt want them to catch on. Again, might be projection due to my life experiences lol.
So, some people read this as a happy family, but for me, I very much see the beginning cracks in the marriage that overtime became much more obvious and gaping, leading to them gallivanting around the world trying to fix it. We donāt see Janet with Tim very much, in fact I think this might be the only times we see them together before she dies, but, while sheās guilty of the same emotional and physical absence Jack is, she comes off as a much more attentive and devoted parent, and I honestly think things wouldāve been a LOT different for Tim had she been the one to live and get a second chance with him.
i'll always make fun of how stupid the "born evil baby" trope is but truly it is such a wretched trope i hope it dies forever
it's like the perfect package of "child you are allowed to harm" and "easy way to not interrogate how commonplace child abuse is". thank goodness this child was simply born wrong, we never have to examine the conditions they grew up in.
something real humiliating about being autistic and simultaneously not being able to live alone. Like I wake up in the middle of the night and canāt fall back asleep (surely that has nothing to do with how I sleep with every single light in my vicinity on) so I get on tumblr. Inevitably engaging with my hyperfixation excites me to the point that the rocking back and forth stimming isnāt enough to control and I start making weird noises, and my grandma, who for some reason is literally never asleep, yells āare you okay?ā Like how am I supposed to say yeah grandma Iām good I just saw something about Batman that was really great š«©

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If I said there were actually two separate batfanons and called them "soft batfanon" and "edgy batfanon" would you all understand what I meant?
I think there are some people that say they hate batfanon, but they actually just hate soft batfanon and they are HUGE fans of edgy batfanon
This needs to be seen.
Also this.
why did chuck write so many characters as so clearly remarkably immensely exceptionally violently queer if he was going to get so mad when people point at the queer characters and say queer. seems like poor planning on his part
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Being an evil doppelganger has to be so fucked up like imagine meeting a better version of yourself. Some chain of events going differently that led to "you" being a better person in a way you can never achieve. Personally I'd have no other option but to try and kill them
It's always "oh no my evil clone or twin or whatever is trying to kill me" and never How is my evil clone? Says a lot about society
Me, crashing the fuck out: you think you're better than me? You think you're fucking better than me???
My good clone, dodging a glass: I mean like objectively yeah
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Ultimate Queer Character: RoundĀ Three Match Seven of Eight
Tim Drake (Robin)
Selina Kyle (Catwoman)
Yesterday I missed 4 calls from the same number because I was at a wedding. Today, that number texted me saying āplease return my callā along with a photo of a CPS business card. I know EXACTLY who this is regarding. And they fucked things up so badly twice now that I donāt even want to talk to them because what if it just makes things worse š¬š«©
Write equation wrong solution.. [Delusional]
Alt version with lesbian flag in case it wasn't obvious
"Don't peek," Tim is and forever will be his baby boy
I saw someone that was like, expressing the opinion that Tim Drake fans that haven't read Knightfall are going to be really shocked to the tune of, not enjoying what happens with him in it as much as they think they will.
And as a Tim Drake fan that HAS read Knightfall, it really baffled me
Because my immediate reaction was to think "are you saying that because he SUFFERS?"
Because boy do I have news for you
About what most Tim Drake fans enjoy

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Honestly, after all the hype and love Tim was getting from the recent Knightfall trailer I donāt take those ānobody cares about tim drakeā people seriously anymore
As you shouldnāt, because honestly, theyāre talking out their ass and they think theyāre funny and creative. Heās a VERY POPULAR CHARACTER. heās a bat. Heās one of Bruceās kids. Youāre deluding yourself if you genuinely think that no one cares about him askdkdk.
Itās gotten to the point where, honestly, even the āme and the other 6 Tim Drake fansā get on my nerves a little. I donāt know if itās because I really do like some characters that are less popular and havenāt got attention in forever, if itās just the āThat Is Factually Incorrectā¢ļøā bothering my autism or what. Heās not as popular as he was at his peak(I wasnāt around for his peak, so this is knowledge Iāve gathered from people who were and documented history of him being a very successful character) but heās not some obscure character no one knows either. Thatās ridiculous lol. (Sorry if this comes across as aggressive, I am agreeing with you, but the whole thing is irritating to me lol)
No one is ever allowed to tell me tim drake isnāt a popular character ever again because after driving all around the city to multiple comic shops his pride variant was sold out at every single one. They all had other pride variants. Thatās never happened to me on Wednesdays even though I always go after my ride is off work since I canāt drive (disabled). Iāve had to go to two stores before but never more. It has now been ordered online aldjdkkfjd. Probably shouldāve done that to begin with (i donāt know how to order comics through the shop and Iām too scared to ask)