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I like to think that Tim is not perpetually 17 y.o., but rather that he went to the Thomas Brodie Sangster school of babyface, so he looks like a kid, but is genuinely in his twenties and very tiredTM of people asking for his ID.
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My truth is that if Jason hadn't died at 15 and taken a dip in the green juice pit, he would have been the same height as Tim or even slightly shorter at 18. I don't care about any Alfred Pennyworth-certified nutrition program he might have had, I believe whole heartedly (and maybe against science, who knows, not me) that living in the streets and fighting crime at a young age must stunt his growth.
The Batfam ages according to me (not based on canon), from youngest to oldest
Damian: 10
Duke: 15
Tim: 17
Steph: 18
Jason: 19
Cass: 19
Dick: 23
Bruce: 39
[Don't know enough about Kate, Helena, Harper and Cullen to place them anywhere.]
[In my heart, Barbara is closer to Bruce's age than she is to Dick's. Think around 28-32 years.]
Girl you did not just say that Cassandra “had to fight her mother lady shiva to the death only to also be brought back to life in order to get over her suicide ideation” Cain was “good at taking care of her mental health” im 💀
We are working with post-suicidal ideation Cass (?), but also, I have read a *very* limited amount of comics and I'm not aware of all the lore 😔😭
I have this headcanon in which Tim is like terrible at taking care of his mental health, because he doesn't recognize when a problem is a problem, but good enough with his physical health. Like sure, he will sometimes drink way too many cans of soda, but he tries to get at least 6 hours of sleep every day, exercise, have 2-3 meals a day (actual meals, not just protein bars and fast food), stays away from alcohol and smoking and other kinds of recreational drugs; actually, genuinely, tries to rest when injured. But also, he doesn't understand that almost dying is... bad, like that's just what's expected from being a vigilante.
[Bruce, Dick and Jason are bad at both. Cass is good at taking care of her mental health, but terrible with her body. Duke is fine at both. Damian is generally good at physical health, will vary between taking care or not of his mental health, usually okay at both, though.]
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I think it would be very funny if the Batfam and Tim had two drastically different reactions to the Teen Titans Incident.
Like Bruce is super concerned about Tim's safety, and Dick is tearing himself apart because on one hand, the perpetrator is his little brother and Dick remembers him as tiny little Jason who loves classic stories and on the other hand, his new little brother has just been brutalized and possibly traumatized. Jason pretends that he is okay with having beaten up a child, but he is drowning in guilt and can barely look Tim in the eye.
Meanwhile, Tim just... does not care. It was literally another Wednesday for him. He is so delusional, he looks at the Red Hood and thinks "Yeah, I can take him." There is no fear in those eyes, just revenge.
I think it would be very funny if Bruce and Dick had everyone convinced that Tim was a kid stalker before becoming Robin when really, he followed Batman for like one (1) week and just extrapolate Nightwing's whereabouts from his previous Dick Grayson knowledge.
(He did not in fact followed Batman, but instead, he went though every crime scene reported until he stumbled upon him. Bruce does not know this.)
Everybody asks Tim for his pictures and all he has are random Batman & Robin newspaper scraps and photos of Bruce post-Jason's death, so now he has to go photoshop pictures of his family.
a handful of bat!bruce and damian requests cross posted from twitter
You know what would be funny?
Baby Stalker Tim being seen as a omen.
There are goons that believe that he is a spirit haunting batman. That he is a child that the bat had lost before he became the dark knight.
He isn't, but people will still turn around whenever they see him lurking
Oh, oh yes, forget grim reaper batman who doesn’t seem to notice the little boy following him around, this little boy with a camera is obviously watching criminals as a way of saying “you are next, you know what you’re doing is wrong, if a Bat doesn’t get you the world will. Gotham is no longer home for you”. Tim is the harbinger of misfortune. A crow on a future battlefield. Gotamites are nothing if not superstitious
Tim of course is just following likely leads of criminals that’ll likely attract the bats, action shots are his favorite and the best way is to be set up before they arrive. Sometimes all he gets are gangwars and other crimes, but hey, at least there’s documentation of their crimes he can leak if need be. Which, leaking stuff ironically doesn’t help his status as a spirit. It’s just assumed it’s not the spirit (most assume anyway) but a sign that someone else is already there and watching, that they’ve already been caught and their fall is only inevitable.
It's still kinda wild how Phineas and Ferb managed to completely hijack an idiom. Now whenever someone hears a sentence leading with "If I had a nickel for everytime [...]", odds are their brain auto fills with "I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice," rather than "I'd be rich," or "I could [action that requires purchasing something requiring an obscene amount of money]". Y'know, what the idiom originally was
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that one time tim almost died, and the first thing he did after was kiss spoiler lives rent-free in my head. also, i wonder how many times he has done shit like that
tim drake is a rare case where every wild, out-of-context thing you hear about him gets even wilder with context
made up a fake uncle to avoid getting adopted? first he had to steal his dead dad's will and change it to include the name of his fake uncle, then he forged an entire legal paper trail to fool even batman, and finally hired an out-of-luck actor to play the uncle and had brainstorm sessions with him about his character backstory. judging from his surprised reaction when bruce offered to adopt him, he probably did this to avoid being put into foster care and didnt even consider that bruce might want to adopt him (even though he already adopted three orphans before him) (and then bruce learned about this and gave him more freedom and crimefighting gear so tim could like him)
snuck into gotham during no man's land? he did this twice, first by himself to meet his girlfriend in the hospital while she was giving birth (he snuck into the ER as a nurse), then with his young justice friends who thought he was having daddy issues with batman and wanted to help (this was before he was adopted by bruce) (they also picked up an atlantean tourist on the way who wanted to sightsee gotham)
blew up several of the league of assassins' secret bases? before that he spent days working with them as a member to gain their trust (this was when he robbed that art museum) and all the while they were holding his dad's coworker's daughter who came to search for tim and learned about his secret life as an assassin before she learned he was robin (and then somehow fell in love with him)
becomes evil batman who kills in the future? not only that, he also convinces his friends to be evil with him and then takes control of half the country right after he kills every rogue in gotham and also his aunt. tim fought this version of himself at least three times, and each time swore that he would never become gun batman (he still becomes gun batman)
used his own legal last name as a hero name? he didnt even come up with the idea for that, he met an alternate earth version of himself (also evil) who was using that name and thought "oh that's a good name" and stole it for himself. he didnt bother to check if other drake's identity was public before he started using it. then he got pulled aside and told off personally by batman for using such a dumb name and that's why he's not called drake anymore
insulted jason to his face while he was trying to kill him? did this multiple times and even kicked jason in the nuts once (not while they were fighting, just as payback) (he's jason's favorite brother now)
and then anything that happened with young justice doesnt need any context because it's exactly as weird as it sounds. yes, he did save the fate of a planet by playing baseball with his friends. yes, they did invade an entire sovereign nation to rescue their one friend's parents who had turned into babies. yes, they did see santa claus die in a fiery explosion
tim is just enjoying the view
i imagine damian and jason having a 'friendly' rivalry and doing things just to compete with eachother (its how they bond) and they realize the only thing they have even ground on is affection from tim - he seems at an okay level of affection with the both of them but when they look at his relationships with dick, bruce and literally everyone else they're so far behind.
so of course they make it a competition. tim knows something's up but dick keeps saying its fine because they're being kind to him (that's the problem dick)
Fic where half of the POV is Jason and Damian fighting for Tim's affection and the other half is Tim - who has already made peace with both his brothers' previous murder attempts - panicking, with a full detective board pinned to the wall and 233 theories. Dick and Alfred think that it's good for their relationship, but Tim is so shaken by it that eventually Bruce is the one who has to ask Damian and Jason to stop (with moral support from Cass, bless her heart; he tried talking to Tim before, but that did not turn out okay).
Procrastinating my assignments to draw these two <3
I was thinking of colouring it fully but I’m lazy and didn’t want to rn, might post it coloured at some point if I feel like it :)
Also, can I just say I love when in fics Kon wants to get his ears pierced, and then Tim goes all mad scientist to figure out how to do it. It’s so good
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While I love the idea of photographer Tim with his thousand dollar film camera, I think it will be infinitely funnier if he'd just been a kid taking pictures of Batman and Robin with a flip phone or, if you want to be more modern, a smartphone.
Headcanon of the tallest to shortest Robin, at age 13:
1. Stephanie (listen, girls tend to hit puberty first, she definitely had a growth spurt and would have towered over them at that age).
2. Tim (I believe 100% that Janet Drake was a tall queen and everybody thought Tim was gonna get her height up until he got stuck at 5'6" at the age of 16).
3. Damien (Talia's and Bruce's kid, self explanatory. Death kinda fucked him over, so he didn't grow taller than Tim, but he at least isn't the shortest. Current goal is to surpass Jason in height. Status: he is trying).
4. Dick (Too many broken bones, his body was more worried about healing those than growing).
5. Jason (Self explanatory. Dick 100% holds it over his head that he was the shortest, current height not withstanding. DICK HAS PICTURES OF TINY JASON IN HIS ROOM just so he can show his friends that he was taller than Jason at one point.)
Bonus: not a Robin, but I imagine Bruce to have been just a bit taller than Dick at age 13, and hit his growth spurt at 15. Shot up like 20cm at once, 0/10, horrible experience.
