doesn't want him to be the emotionless aroace so instead makes him the internalized self hating aroace that stays awake at night angsting over the fact that he'll never fall in love like other people.

"i know you're aroace but that doesn't mean you have to be frigid/a prude about it"

doesn't want him to be the sexless/loveless aroace stereotype so instead they make him the hyper methodical aroace stereotype that hardcore adhered to the scientific method to determine his orientation by sleeping with and dating half the people he knew despite his discomfort.

doesn't want him to be the sexless aroace stereotype so instead they make him the aroace with sex trauma that he must overcome instead and after therapy he's just your average sex favorable aroace because of course.

doesn't want him to be the sexless aroace stereotype so instead makes him the "fucks to make his partner happy and gets nothing out of it" aroace stereotype instead.

Like no yeah fr Alastor deserves a "something is wrong with everyone else who isn't me" and a "my sexuality is serial killer idk what yall expected" and a "this attachment was not authorized". Alastor deserves to have problems never before documented in the wild at the same time as the most boring standard allo problems but he doesnt want to suck face abt it which makes them utterly unrecognizable to the casual observer.

Also I do think Alastor has a wild and wide personal catalog of things he's tried that he now knows for a fact he doesn't like. Like cmon he hung out at bars and clubs and drank during the prohibition and decided that the perfect solutions to his problems were (1) murder and (2) selling his soul (that second one also goes on the list of things he's tried and now knows he doesn't like). Guy absolutely tried every single bad idea in a row, some of them multiple times just bc he was too drunk the first time to remember if he liked it.

Or why "aces can still have sex" is a shitty excuse for shippers to complitely disregard Alastor's identity

This post was inspired by these pictures with Alastor holding a poster with this statement, and me feeling pissed of by it.

(It's not about everyone who enjoys Alastor ships, it's about people who write him as allosexual and throw the "aces can have sex" as an excuse and to make YOU look like an aphobe when you try to address their mischaracterization. If you are an ace and explore your own identity through Alastor, or you are anyone, writing a ship while respecting his asexuality - you are cool)

Haven't re-read this, post can have stupid grammar or/and spelling mistakes and time inconsistencies, it's because english isn't my first language (this is for people who use mistakes in text as a valid reason for disregarding the point entirely).

First of, "aces can still have sex" - valid, and absolutely real statement, aces can do it and enjoy it. But it's not the case for Alastor specifically and i'm going to explain why.

Now, we all know, that Alastor is asexual (possibly aromantic, but that's whole another can of worms that we aren't gonna touch for now). And NO, it's not gonna change in season 3. "but Viv said-"

This is what viv said

PLEASE use your eyes and brains to read and UNDERSTAND what she said. She never said anything about Alastor NOT being ace. She said that Alastor DOESN'T KNOW IT yet. Which is the most real ace experience, saying as a fellow ace. But how he can not know it? Easy.

When you're allosexual, any kind, you can understand it easily, because you have many examples of it in media and real life, choose anything you like. But asexuality isn't as visible, and it doesn't come to mind as easily as "am i gay/lesbian/pan/ect". So as ace you just don't understand, what's so appealing other people see in sex. It ranges from "yeah it's kinda nice, but why it's such a big deal" to "it's disgusting, how anyone can do it" (this is why representstion is important, and why Alastor being ace is such a big deal, and why we are fighting for him so much). And you assume one of these things: you are broken and there is something wrong with you; or you are special and this is your superpower; or you just hadn't found the right person yet. The last option is exactly Alastor's case. This is also something Viv has said in the past, that Alastor THINKS that he is a heterosexual, who hasn't found the right woman yet. And now, in season 3 Alastor will get to realisation, that he just doesn't need anyone.

With that out of the way, let's talk why Alastor is specifically sex-repulsed ace.

I'm not going to repeat once again all the arguments about his reactions to Angel's sex jokes, or how he's never anywhere near anything sexual in season 1, you've probably heard it before. Let's talk more about Alastor himself.

1. Touching

Now, we all know and hopefuly we all agree, that Alastor doesn't like when people touch him. This was a trait of his since i believe zoophobia times, where he was known to go to such extremes as breaking his own limbs to avoid being touched. Now, in the show we don't see much of him specifically avoiding touch, but he has expressed few times his annoyance from being touched. So this is prettry much still stands canon. And i believe in season 3 we'll see more of him avoiding physical touch, since he was couched QUITE A LOT while being Vox's captive. However, Alastor is mostly fine with touching people himself, and that's also totally real thing. Saying as someone who also doesn't like random touching, even from close relatives (and friend question mark i don't have friends irl).

And now, what does sexual activity involves? Right, A LOT of touching, everywhere, all the time. And, i guess, there are ways to minimize the touching, some kinky shit probably, there are still more problems.

2. Vulnerability

Alastor is allergic to showing weakness. "But in season 2-" In season 2 he was PLAYING being weak and vulnerable, while still having Vox wrapped around his finger, knowing that Vox won't go too far with him.

And yes, lets address the bed scene in the room, that wasn't "too far" in Alastor's scale. As long as he wasn't involved physically. I'm not downplaying the fucked-uppness of the scene, and not saying that "it's ok" and that nothing bad happened, i'm just saying that this isn't something that would some how mess up Alastor. If anything he was just annoyed and tired. The only moment he got scared was when Vox got up from the bed, but then back to normal, when realised that Vox isn't gonna go physical.

In season 1, however, after being wounded, Alastor hid from everyone, making sure that no one would witness the moment of his fear and defeat. And even then, he very quickly collects himself, switching from being scared to being angry about this whole situation and already looking for solutions. And then, he's hiding the fact that he got hurt, he's trying to look as normal as he can, and even to Rosie he doesn't say that he's still wounded, he says "scars" which implies that he is healed.

Alastor hates to be vulnerable.

And back to the topic, to have sex, you have to expose your most vulnerable parts, and you have to trust your partner not to hurt you, not to take advantage of you.

And Alastor doesn't trust anyone but himself.

So, that being said, i absolutely believe that Alastor is sex-repulsed ace. He may consider it "with the right woman", "one day" as a very-VERY hypothetical scenario, but he most likely will never actually do it.

And as a bonus:

Alastor is romance-neutral aromantic

Alastor doesn't seek romance with anyone, he isn't suffering from not having a partner, and he is perfectly fine on his own. But he probably wouldn't mind having this kind of relationships and date someone, it's just he doesn't think that anyone is right and good enough for him.

Here. Felt like writing this post, because this has been stewing in my brain lately. I don't usually write stuff like this myself, but i haven't seen anyone expressing this take, so, here it goes

viviziepop: "ship anything you want!!! regardless of sexual orientation or anything idc go crazy!1!!1!!!"

also vivziepop:

what's funny is that aromanticism is a spectrum so it wouldn't even be "ruining anyone's fun" if he was...cough cough... CONFIRMED. also even if he was a bold stripe aroace ("100%" aroace) he could STILL be shipped because of qpp relationships, and also because relationships don't need to follow a strict guideline in general.

and yes. viviziepop HERSELF sees alastor as aroace.

so tell me...why are you afraid of confirming alastor as aroace—even though you also told fans to ship whatever they want—and yet, you still refuse to make it canon for the sake of not "ruining anyone's fun"? how does this work?

for a show that prides itself so much on its acceptance and diversity it makes me upset that my own orientation isn't allowed because it'd "ruin fun" or whatever. and then so many fans also decline alastor's aromanticism as well even though it's so apparent that he's written with aromanticism in mind. viviziepop please i need my aroace rep why would you do this to me

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