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I HAVE FINALLY POSTED THE THING TO AO3
(working title, might be changed later)
premise:
immediately post s2 finale, after my fic that is _immediately_ immediately after it. Lilith has not called Charlie yet.
slice of life soap opera: nobody permadies, but a few people might at some points wish they did
the most insane multiship i can cram into a single timeline, and trust me, I am _creative_ with that. Welcome to hell, Alastor!
doing my best to treat serious subjects with the gravity they deserve, but this is still ultimately a fic, so yknow. sensitivity readers feel free to volunteer?
this is _mostly_ not a pornfic, but uh. regenerating immortal demon kink will be had. mind the tags, and check them for updates when i post a new chapter, okay?
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A phenomenon Iâve seen in fandom with a large central ship is that people will have their shipping goggles activated at such an intensity, they doggedly erase character traits that donât contribute to pushing forward romance. The two individuals in the relationship are rendered utterly one-dimensional through the loss of any individual aspects of their story or personality that could be interpreted as an obstacle to shipping.
This makes fanon interpretations of the characters boring and uninteresting to read about because they have no character traits other than being in love with their romantic interest. I like shipping as much as the next guy, but I hate fandom-at-largeâs tendency to only engage with a story through shipping, and especially to the extent that the characters are barely individuals, and do not exist outside of the central romantic relationship
Ok let's talk about how Bee proves Angel's sin is Gluttony not Lust.
First off can we talk about the design similaritys. They both have 4 arms, pink as a secondary color, heart boob window crop tops, shown poll danceing, sing pop songs.
If "I'm whatcha want not what you need." Is the definition of Angel's persona. It's also the thing he fights with in him self. He's a drug addict. He's litterly named after a drug. His struggles when he's being evaluated by heaven is he wants to take drugs with cherri and forget everything but he dosn't becuse it's not good for him. Also Bee mentions wanting more drugs for her party.
the thing about representation (I'm thinking about ace identities but it applies broadly) is that. okay. a lot of what people talk about these days is wish fulfillment: the character who can simply exist without their identity causing them any hardships. sometimes this is because they live in a setting without the relevant axis of oppression, sometimes it's because of lucky circumstances, sometimes it's just an authorial choice. this feels the safest, in a lot of ways. it's comforting and can be very fulfilling: what if this character was like me, but they didn't get hurt for it?
but wish fulfillment is not catharsis. when you are someone whose identity *has* caused them pain, there is a value to escapism but there is also a value to reflection, to stories that show characters who have been hurt learning to be happy despite that. (and, yes, there's even value in stories where people don't get to be happy; they just don't tend to be something that I can personally read)
for me, a story that grapples with the complex realities of being marginalized but achieves catharsis can be a lot more powerful than a story where those realities don't exist. the problem is that the range of human experience is vast, and so a story that will be blisteringly cathartic for one reader could just be triggering to another. the solution isn't to say that only wish fulfillment narratives are allowed, it's to acknowledge that many different people will need many different stories.
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Because itâs not true that Tumblr never uses punctuation. But it is true that lack of punctuation has become, itself, a form of punctuation. On Tumblr the lack of punctuation in multisentence-long posts creates the function of rhetorical speech, or speech that is not intended to have an answer, usually in the form of a question. Consider the following two potential posts. Each individual line should be taken as a post:
ugh is there any particular reason people at work have to take these massive handfuls of sauce packets they know theyâre not going to use like god put that back we have to pay for that stuff
Ugh. Is there any particular reason people at work have to take these massive handfuls of sauce packets they know theyâre not going to use? Like god, put that back. We have to pay for that stuff.
In your head, those two potential posts sound totally different. In the first one Iâm ranting about work, and this requires no answer. The second may actually engage you to give an answer about hoarding sauce packets. And if you answer the first post, you will likely do so in the same style.Â
Hereâs what makes this exciting: the English language has no actual punctuation for rhetorical speechâthat is, there are no special marks that specifically indicate âthis speech is in the abstract, and requires no answer.â Not only that, it never has. The first written record of English (actually proto-English, predating even Old English) dates to the 400s CE, so weâre talking about 1600 years of having absolutely no marker whatsoever for rhetorical speech.
A group of teens and young adults on a blogging website literally reshaped a deficit a millennium and a half old in our language to fit their language needs. More! This group has agreed on a more or less universal standard for these new rules, which fits the definition of âlanguage.â Which is to say Tumblr English is its own actual, real, separate dialect of the English language, and because it is spoken by people worldwide who have introduced concepts from their own languages into it, it may qualify as a written form of pidgin.Â
Tumblr English should literally be treated as its own language, because it does not follow the rules of any form of formal written English, and yet it does have its own consistent internal rules. If you donât think thatâs cool as fuck then I donât even know what to tell you.
This is super cool!
Also idk if this has any relevance whatsoever but if you wanna have an argument inside one tag you cannot have commas in it so thatâs a real existing constraint that has forced tumblrites to construct commaless sentences and perhaps this has helped in adopting the custom into posts as well ok I have no idea if this is whatâs happened just I think itâs a reasonable assumption there might be a connection
The tags are absolutely a factor. You want someone to take a breath in the middle of a sentence, you start a new tag. You want to have, as seen here, this removable piece between commas (does it have a name?) - you have 5 tags in this sentence alone. And sometimes you just
look at all you precious brilliant nerds nerding about language you make me so fucking happy omg
language is this constantly evolving thing tbh, it doesnât remain the same unless itâs dead and the people who used it gone so seeing the evolution of the language used on tumblr is literally so fucking amazing i want to cry with joy at it
because we also add in words from other languages, or make entirely new words up as additional terms to denote something (see âtolâ and âsmolâ in relation to âtallâ and âsmallâ) and this is constant. we are doing this daily without any sort of breathing space because thereâs millions of us on this hellsite and we are constantly talking and so the language changes day-by-day until we have general, universal rules for what to do in a post, what to add in our tags, how to add it, why we add it, what we mean by it
weâve created a language in the same way our ancestors all did: by building on the ones that came before and changing them to suit our needs and our system
I love this so much and language is so great and Iâve noticed the lack of punctuation thing recently, even on twitter, and used it for like a specific kind of rhetorical effect. idk itâs so fun I fucking love linguistics and the evolution of language
Oh hey! This is the post that caused me to write a thesis. Yall know this post is cited in like five different academic papers that I found while researching for it? @prismatic-bell is a username I see screenshots of in academia these days. P sure theyâre in the tumblr book too. Wild.Â
Look, itâs a weird hill to die on, especially when I donât really explain, but children deserve to experience fear, disgust, and discomfort in safe scenarios where they can process those sensations.
Media for children used to be scary and thatâs important.
âSince it is so likely that (children) will meet cruel enemies, let them at least have heard of brave knights and heroic courage. Otherwise you are making their destiny not brighter but darker.â
â C.S. Lewis
It's not a fun part of the movie when a character the kid likes dies, but they can experience loss without losing someone they actually know that way, and learn how to deal with grief in the future from how the protagonist is taught to deal with it. The real deal will still be way worse, but a 7 year old who's allowed to know what death IS is likely to grow into a 15 year old who can deal with their feelings when it happens.
My silliest Alastor headcannon is in life and death he gets mountains of fan mail. Yes a not insignificant amount of this would be thirsty.
In life sometimes he'd get one about how he's like "the only light in my dark life" for some poor women and would write down the retrun address incase he felt like killing her husband.
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Vox thought that Alastor would want his "massive influence".
Which I'm still wondering why would he think Alastor wants that. Like he says. "we could rule hell." This seems like a pretty bold fsce exaggeration. Though also Alastor dosn't want tk rule either. I just want to know if this is anoutber cases of Vox going. "I want something so he wants it." Or if Alastor said something to make him think that.
i mean Vox sings "we're the biggest fish in hell" in s2 when it is demonstrably not true in everyone else's opinion, I just kind of automatically added an optimism discount to that sentence. Vox's definition of "ruling Hell" most certainly differs from most people's lol
And I think Vox is the kind of person who classifies things into "objectively desirable" and "objectively undesirable". Even if he personally might not want something, he'll still want it just for status reasons. And in his mind, that's how everyone else is too, at least by default - you have to have a specific reason to not want an Objectively Desirable Thing, and if it's on offer for cheap, you might want to grab it anyway, just in case. Doesn't everyone want to Succeed (tm)?
Like Alastor could have said in plain language to his face that he doesn't want to rule Hell and Vox would just be like teehee you're so funny sensei-chan
I just think about how Alastor made enemies of all the over lord's of hell then he saw this guy with a stupid box head and went "this one is exceptable".
This will probably be my most controversial post by far, but it needs to be said.
Gendered socialization is unequivocally real. Boys and girls are treated and socialized differently before they're even born.
Female babies are disappearing en masse, because male babies are more valued.
From an extremely early age, parents respond to their childrens' emotions differently based on gender. Mothers over-estimate the crawling abilities of their infant sons compared to infant daughters.
Mothers speak to their infant daughters more and talk them more about emotions than they do their sons.
By the age of 2, boys already show an avoidance to the color pink and other items traditionally seen as feminine, laying the ground work for early demonstrations of misogyny in childhood.
When children enter pre-school, there is no difference in math abilities between boys and girls. But such gaps begin to appear as children grow older.
The vast majority of girls report feeling unsafe going outside, and at least 2/3 of girls have reported experiencing sexual harassment at school by the time they 16.
Further on in education, women will understimate their scores, while men will overestimate their scores. Women will perform worse on tests when first told that women, on average, perform worse.
Researchers argue that the prevalence of sexual assault against women is so high specifically because of early gendered socialization. The men who commit sexual violence consistently demonstrate specific ideals about gender and perform hostile masculinity.
The patterns reach well into adulthood, influencing occupational choices.
I could literally go on and on and on. There are countless studies and entire fields of academia dedicated to researching this. The fact that children are socialized differently paced on assigned or percieved gender is really not debatable.
I am sympathetic to the fact that transphobes have warped the concept of socialization to insinuate that trans women are destined to be violent or predatory, or that trans men are destined to be submissive and helpless. However, people weaponizing these frameworks does not mean that the phenomenon does not exist.
Furthermore, individual people's nuanced experiences with gendered socialization does not mean that these patterns don't exist on a large scale. Any interaction with society will confer the influence of gender biases, especially upon children to are extremely vulnerable to both subtle and overt social cues.
Again - gendered socialization is real. This is a core aspect of feminist analysis. I am not going to pretend otherwise.
I'm sure I remember a time when it was a big part of trans theory that missing out on typical gendered socialisation was a big part of the abuse of trans people by a cisnormative society.
Thinking of it as like a language, where so much stuff is taught by exposure, all the "gendered manners" that are taught in single-sex situations (the proverbial thing of "girls act differently when there are no boys present/boys act differently when there are no girls present") which are the situations where a kid is taught how to perform "their" gender in the most nuanced and complicated ways that signal to other people of the same-gender that "we are the same type of person" - and, trans people are often cut off from that until they come out, meaning that they have to learn the "basics" as adults.
Likewise I see so many trans people say "Bold of you to assume I was socialised! I was treated as a weird thing." And I don't know how to point out that the things that get a child treated as a "weird thing" and put outside of the bounds of propriety are themselves different for children being raised-to-boyhood or raised-to-girlhood. Thinking about England because I don't want to extrapolate outside of where I personally know, a "girl" might get treated as a tomboy-outsider-weirdo for wanting to play toy soldiers or play in the woods, but a "boy" would probably be seen as normal for that. Likewise, a "boy" might be punished really badly for liking makeup and dresses, but a "girl" wouldn't be. Seeing "You can't say I was socialised as a boy, I was constantly getting in trouble for putting on my sister's clothes, and treated like I was disgusting for crying and being emotional!" And just... Yes! Because people that the patriarchy wants to turn into "boys" will be punished for showing femininity, that is how male socialisation works! Likewise "I was treated as a tomboy and put in a third gender category because I was sporty and outdoorsy, and punished and called monstrous and sent to see a psychiatrist for not playing with dollies" - That's female socialisation, because a "boy" who was sporty wouldn't be put into into third gender category for it, and wouldn't be called monstrous for having no interest in dolls.
Obviously the exact things that are gendered change from culture to culture, but that applies to everything, everything is culturally bound and affects different people in different ways and to different degrees, but we still try to talk about the broad trends which carry through cross-culturally (which has been a big part of feminist consciousness- Recognising that although the ways that women are treated worldwide aren't the same, that there are repeating themes...)
I don't know, it feels like we shouldn't have to ignore that gendered socialisation exists and is often a horrible locus of abuse (for both cis and trans kids, even before getting into how it's often SO MUCH WORSE for intersex kids regardless of whether they're cis or trans!) just because terfs also want to use it.
there has been some good awareness raising abt the insidiousness of Jim Crow and how that would have impacted Alastor as a creole man of color in the 1920-30s. but new orleans had very specific and regional racial dynamics, influenced by its history as a former French and Spanish colony.
in particular, there was a large community of creoles of color who were more racially fluid under previous colonial regimes, had built up considerable wealth and social power, were very impacted by Jim Crow, but continued to hold themselves separate from Anglo-African communities, maintaining their own social institutions, clubs, and secret societies. in some cases, creoles of color who were considered legally Black under American law did not consider themselves Black. colorism was a major factor in the social life of people in jazz age New Orleansâthe âbrown paper bag test", where establishments would admit patrons only if they were lighter than a brown paper bag, was first described in exclusive Black social clubs in new orleans.
for alastor, in this environment, being light-skinned, french-speaking, and possibly from a poorer ex-urban family outside of NOLAâs afro-creole establishment, would have been elements of his identity almost as important as being legally Black under jim crow. under the cut i'll try to touch on some specific aspects and add some resources because social dynamics in nola have 200 years of history informing them.
creating categories of race in early New Orleans
first, letâs establish that race is made up. in the United States, Blackness has long been an either/or proposition. Youâre Black or youâre not. In the years following the Civil War this definition was further tightened into âone drop ruleâ where a single non-white ancestor was enough to exclude a person from whiteness (at least in theory, in practice, lots of mixed-race people successfully âcrossed the color lineâ, becoming white by moving towns and cutting off ties with their families).
things worked differently in Spanish and French (mostly Spanish) colonies. although exact regimes varied, there were always gradations, distinctions late between citizens born in the homeland vs. the colony, between free and enslaved. complex caste systems developed, based on the finer details of ancestry and birth. in New Orleans, this became what one scholar calls âa tripartite system of race and racial fluidityâ. specific terms were developed to describe the free (librĂŠs or affranchis) and those born in Louisiana rather than Europe or Africa (creole, meaning âcreatedâ). slaves gained their freedom much more easily in French and Spanish New Orleans than the fledgling American colonies (despite efforts to limit manumission in the 1723 code noir which were rolled back under later Spanish rule) and the large free Black and creole of color population gave rise to complicated social dynamics.
the distinction there is important. identity among creoles with African ancestry was weighty. they were subject to restrictive, racialized legal codes. in particular, intermarriage was strictly forbidden. despite this, many mixed race children were born and often acknowledged and left inheritancesâto the point that further laws were passed capping the amount of a white personâs inheritance that could be left to a non-white person at 1/3. this is not to say these relationships were goodâinequality persisted and even the most adored children born in these circumstances were still subject to marginalization. but the end result was an increasingly wealthy, often white-passing group of creoles of colorâhighly educated, propertyowning, and separated from the white elites of the city by the tiniest quirk of birth.
influenced by the caste-based systems developed in Spanish colonies in Latin America, many of these mixed-race Creoles sought to separate themselves from âBlacknessâ and establish an intermediate identity. though the Spanish castas system was designed to prevent the descendants of Africans from ever becoming white, it also allowed mixed-race creoles language with which to define themselves as something other than Black and they ran with the opportunity.
shortly before American acquisition, creoles of color and free Blacks made up 1/6 of the population of New Orleans. âHistorian David Rankin determined from the 1850 census that of all American cities, New Orleans "had the highest percentage of free black males employed as artisans, professionals, and entrepreneurs, and the lowest in 'low opportunity' occupations like laborer, mariner, gardener, servant, and waiter. New Orleans also contained more than a quarter of all free men of color employed as professionals, managers, artists, clerks, and scientists in the fifteen largest cities in the United States.â
they held property (including slaves), had their own social clubs and events, and wrote extensively. the âfirst 10 short stories of African American literature were written in French here in Louisiana,â during the early 19th century. however, during this flourishing, the rights of free Black and creole of color were being heavily curtailed. following American takeover in 1803, laws were rapidly passed, first to forbid free Black people from other territories from entering Louisiana, then to kick free Black men out (this one was never fully enforced. finally, free citizens of color were formally forbidden the vote and forced to carry documents when traveling. whatever freedom they had under French and Spanish rule was over. in 1857 emancipation was banned, as were gatherings of free Black people. many wealthier citizens fled to France, South America, or the Caribbean. others stayed, and though their collective wealth saw a slight boom during the antebellum period, it was then slowly eaten away through the civil war, and Jim Crow. emancipation and the end of slavery, in some ways curtailed options of free Black and creole of color Louisianans âforc[ing] them into a more rigid social structure of white and nonwhiteâ.
plessy vs ferguson: a distinctly creole case
a fact sometimes forgotten in discussions of the advent of Jim Crow, is that Homer Plessy, the man who fought a case against segregation all the way to the Supreme Court in 1896 and lost, paving the way for the advent of âseparate but equalâ and Jim Crow, was creole, born in New Orleans. and, if you look at his picture, he was very light-skinned.
this was no accident! homer plessy was specifically picked by a group of Black and creole of color advocates to press his case because he was racially ambiguous. Louisiana had a brief stint of good government during reconstruction, they even elected the first Black governor, PBS Pinchback. however, with segregation beginning to tighten once more, a french-speaking citizens group decided to act, using the racial fluidity of some (though not all! lotta diversity in the creole community, even within families) mixed race creoles in an attempt to undermine binary American definitions of race. plessy had to tell the conductor of the train car he was mixed race to be removed and, as one (sympathetic) newspaper put it, he was âas white as the average white Southerner.â
this legal strategy and other similar ones failed, with the Supreme Court siding against the Louisianans. however, the nature of their arguments is tellingâfor New Orleans, race had long been fluid and it took efforts from up top to make the lines strict.
the kicker? on the 1920 census homer plessy was identified as white.
english vs french a crucial dynamic
another critical element is the dynamic between English speaking and french speaking people of color in New Orleans. the âold moneyâ of the free Black and creole populations, whose wealth carried over from the French and Spanish eras, whoâd had generations to establish themselves in the city, were invariably French speaking. creole, the language, carried its own social connotations; wealthier creoles (of all ancestries) might be educated in France and speak a more continental french than their city-educated counterparts. newspapers and public notices were also invariably in this âcolonial frenchâ vs creole or cajun. the first Black owned newspaper in the state was in French, followed up by a bilingual successor. as more English speakers flicked to the city and more Black citizens came to speak English and English alone, french became both a status symbol and a locus of othering. âCreoleâ as an identity was partially defined by being francophone/creole-speaking and being creole was, as weâve previously covered, not the same as being Black (though it could and can overlap, depending on how an individual chose to identify).
americanization slowly began to transform New Orleans into a microcosm of the south in legal codes and racial definitions but creole society continued to favor french fashions and their french dialect as a way of maintaining their unique culture. In 1915, however, french education in public schools was banned, beginning the marginalization of the language.
today, language is the primary signifier of continued creole identity as more and more descendants of the creole community identify with American racial categories. the preservation of french and Louisiana creole has therefore always been crucial to the continued preservation of the distinct identity of creoles of color.
secret societies, mutual aid, debutantes, clubs, and colorism
community organizations have always been a core part of new orleansâ social fabric. in the 19th century, organizations started by creoles of color provided opportunities to both socialize and engage in charity. these groups offered medical and dental care, covered burials, held Sunday socials and waltzes. after emancipation, many more English-speaking Black social organizations were formed, identical to their creole counterparts but usually kept separate. this wasnât a hard and fast rule but language and religious differences limited overlap). homer plessy was a prominent member of a benevolent aid society.
two regular events kept societies and benevolent organizations crucial to the development of jazz in New Orleans: balls and burials. balls were events with live music, meant to encourage socialization and often intended to introduce newly of age young people to the community. from the 1890s, debutante balls around Mardi Gras were an opportunity for young ladies to show off and elaborate themes, costuming, and courtly manners were de rigeur. burials were also a critical chance for societies to flex; with members parading in formal wear, accompanied by brass bands and lines.
social clubs were also a key part of the picture. one location, the autocrat club, was particularly notable as a collectively run creole venue, hosting dance and music events with less harassment from the police. however, these venues were not free of internal prejudice. the autocrat club was accused by performers and locals of barring entry to those with a skin tone âdarker than a paper bagâ. the club itself (which still stands) has pushed back against this claim but concedes that these policies might have been implemented by any of the many aid societies, dance clubs, and other organizations who used their space. scholar Henry Louis gates jr. claimed that he first heard of the âpaper bag testâ from university classmates from Louisianaâif it did not originate in New Orleans its association there goes deep.
in short, although social organizations and Black led venues provided respite from Jim Crow society and were crucial to jazz age New Orleans musical development, they were not immune to internal prejudices and were often stratified along gender, religious, cultural, or color lines. even within the Black and creole of color community, divides were carefully policed and membership in organizations, which provided a protective shield against the deprivations of segregated society, could be segregated themselves.
geography and insularity, maintaining the creole identity
having established that creoles of color historically classified themselves as distinct from Anglo-African Americans, used their racial ambiguity and white ancestry to attempt to undermine segregation laws, and yet sometimes favored lighter skinned and francophone (especially those who could speak âcontinental frenchâ) individuals within their own communities, letâs discuss the community altogether.
following the civil war, creole families spread out from the city center, landing in the 5-9th wards, but especially the 7th. there, families lived in close proximity, with creole churches, schools, and stores close together. many could avoid leaving their enclave for days at a time.
close knit, creole neighborhoods shielded members from interaction with outsiders. life was structured around church, school (many creole children of color were sent to (segregated) catholic schools, in part so they wouldnât have to interact with non-creoles), and social clubs. both white people and non-creole Black people were distrusted and held at arms length. it was a tightly tied community, patriarchal but bound together by female labor. Natalie McPherson notes that in contrast to Black women in New Orleans, who often had to take domestic work, creole women of color made every effort to stay homeârenting out rooms in their houses and taking on sewing work to do so. this allowed them to draw further lines between the groups. it also kept them within their already enmeshed communities.
this is not to say that creole of color and Black communities were completely at odds. early civil rights leaders united the communities in both discussion and action. from 1925-1941 community leaders favored the so called âracial progressionistâ approach, focusing on anti-lynching efforts and advocating for better schools, parks, and facilities. working within the limits of Jim Crow to avoid the the violent backlash from the white supremacist establishment, the NAACP and Federation of Civic Leagues pushed for gradual, steady change. these efforts were often controlled by a few, unelected community leaders, making strategic choices on the behalf of their people. later, during the 1930s, younger civil rights advocates in New Orleans pushed for more dramatic and democratic change, paving the way for later civil rights actions.
creole of color communities in Louisiana tended to stick together; even when they left. the devastating economic impacts of Jim Crow (those âold moneyâ creole of color families increasingly had the storied history but limited wealth due to restrictions on economic activity and periodic mass racial terror, such as the 1900 riots which burned down Black schools and property) and the depressions of the 1920s (Louisianaâs economy began faltering before the 1929 stock market crash) sent many creole families of color headed elsewhere; to urban centers like Los Angeles and Chicago. even outside of lousiana, they made efforts to preserve their culture through ritual; clustering around catholic schools or french speaking immigrant communities, cooking traditional foods and taking every chance to visit home.
bringing it back to alastor hazbinhotel
thatâs a lot of history! letâs break down how, specifically, it might apply to alastor.
1. heâs light-skinned but not white passing. heâs not going to be barred from a colorist club but neither can he escape segregation entirely. the texture of his hair, the angle of his nose, all those things will have been picked apart not just by white bigots but also by his own community. as a man the scrutiny on his appearance might have been slightly lesser than it would have been for a mixed-race woman trying to make it in entertainment⌠but not much.
2. he can speak in a generic trans-Atlantic accent and his French (that we hear) is good but he doesnât use it much. his linguistic flexibility means that he could maybe pass as either creole or a anglo-Protestant Black person (how french/spanish his last name is would be the deciding factor). conversely, that mutability might mean heâs distrusted by both groups.
3. we donât get a lot of detail on his background but he does show up in a fucked up little cottage WAY outside of the city center. when he designs a retreat he designs a bayou, not a bustling suburb. thereâs a good chance he doesnât come from money and a VERY good chance that he didnât come from one of the central nola wards. not having those connections to the city community would have been a major barrier for him, one heâd have to charm hard to overcome.
4. we donât hear where he went to school but given that after 1915 only private schools taught in french (and many children of his generation who went to public school lost their french-language abilities), it was probably a catholic school. if his family was poor, his tuition might have eaten up the bulk of their income, but, as previously discussed, cultural transmission was prioritized in creole families.
5. given his overall confidence he might have been mistaken as a child of one of the old established creole families, but crucially not for more than a few hoursânew Orleans was insular in that era and it wouldnât take long to check the aunt-cyclopedia.
6. depending on the details of his background he may or may not have defined himself as Black (though heâd have still been subject to the same limitations placed on Black citizens, regardless). the answer may have even changed over the course of his lifeâadult alastor, steeped in the multi-cultural, constantly shifting world of jazz, may have thought of himself differently than rural creole baby alastor.
7. thereâs a very good chance he was involved in social organizations; not just for networking but for self preservation! health insurance didnât exist and he was working an unstable entertainment job, Black and creole mutual aid organizations WERE the social safety net. he may have also been involved in a church for the network and social camouflage (Louisiana was religious enough that heâd have raised eyebrows if he wasnât) and, depending on how altruistic he was feeling, an early civil rights organization. his choice of affiliation would have mattered a lotâeven just which mass a person chose to attend back then was a matter of status signaling. all this having to socially schmooze and depend on others probably shaped his issues with independence and perceived loss of control.
8. once he moved to New Orleans, where he chose to live would have been significant as well. some neighborhoods were associated with specific cultural groups, specific churches, and, as previously discussed, could be pretty insular. others, like tremĂŠ, were mixed.
most useful/chunkiest references
Spoken: A Documentary on Colorism and the New Orleans Creole
Defeat but Not Ignominy: The New Orleans Afro-Creoles Behind Plessy vs. Ferguson
Skin Color and Social Practice: The Problem of Race and Class Among New Orleans Creoles and Across The American South
I Am What I Say I Am: Racial and Cultural Identity among Creoles of Color in New Orleans.
Attacking Jim Crow: black activism in New Orleans 1925-1941
This is actually like reallh import to understand what his actual social standing was though I wish I had more sources on speficalh th 1920s-30s about it.
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Something I want to remind everyone is that Valentino isn't real. He is however a tool to process real feelings about real people.
So yes part of why he exist is to be a collective punching bag for us. We can't see the real Valentino's get beat up so we do it in fiction to make us feel better. That is valid.
The thing is that isn't the only thing he exist to do. Anouther thing he does is help creative a narrative about abuse.
We have a extream lack of story have examples of this is abuse and this is why it happends. Not haveing a story to understand ones truama especially one that can be understood by outhers can be retraumatizing. We understand the world though storys.
This is also why humanizing him is important. Because people who are abused by people they know (most abuse victums) know the side of there abuser that isn't evil. This is something that we don't have a social story for. It can make it really hard to process that abuse is even happening with out this kind of framework to understand abuse.
Becuse all types of abusers are humans. They have bad days and good days. They habe friends and family. They have complicated emotions. Part of his job in existing as a fictional charter is to represent that reality.
I am my own beautifully deeply biased and flawed individual who has hammer brain and sees nails everywhere but it does seem like some of these individuals who do not understand the issue with websites like Wattpad hitting people with censorship (especially a website where people post creative works of art made on an individual basis) could just benefit from experiencing horror as a genre more often. Watch and read horror. Watch some slashers. Watch A24 and Hammer films from the 1960s. Get really really into 1990s Japanese horror. Watch every creature feature you can find. Watch horror that pushes your buttons a bit and makes you kind of uncomfortable.
It's like... conceptualizing things like violence and sex and nudity and cursing and cannibalism and rape and fear in art is completely inaccessible for some people. You don't gotta go find the most triggering films you can, I cannot for the life of me get thru any one Saw film. But I've spent enough time in the genre to know how incredibly stunning these stories are, how they can speak on an individual level and a cultural level. They're fun, they're heartbreaking, they're silly, they're terrifying, it's literally the entirety of human experience wrapped up in this genre. And these stories are being told with nudity and sex and blood and violence and gore! It's part of the story! Sometimes that's the whole story! And it becomes a really intriguing or funny or beautiful piece of art people talk about for literal decades! I need people to know that "dark and adult topics" in and of themselves are a legitimate way to make art, and banning those aspects is not making art spaces as a whole better, cleaner, more pure, more academic. It's making things more corporate and fascist to remove them. And if more people saw this stuff as legitimate art even when it's "not for them" it would be clearer to see how this censorship is so dangerous.