Screw gender norms. Women can definitely fight too.
I know Iâve reblogged similar stuff before, but I suck at consistent tagging so u canât find the other commentary.
But yeah, maybe my favorite part of how this keeps happening is that some earlier researchers actually found it easier to believe that all the adults buried at a given place must have been high status men. (Maybe that earlier society was even more backwards, and didnât bury women at all? Maybe those women were really immortal? Who knows. They didnât have any graves.)
Rather than even starting to question their own assumptions around findings like not nearly as much variation in peopleâs heights and grave goodsâand access to resources in generalâas they would expect based on their own society at the time. When yes, it turned out to be a fairly even mix after all.
I have read about a number of cases around the world where exactly that has happened, but somebody did reexamine the evidence and reevaluate those conclusions later on. And there are probably many more which havenât gotten another critical look. (No doubt plenty of cases I havenât learned about, either. Plenty.)
This is one of those interesting examples where the media went in a very different direction from the research. Even though I would like this headline to be 100% unqualified truth, I feel like itâs important to note some important stuff before we proceed.Â
I am very sorry about all this stuff. IT IS A ROCKY FUCKING RIDE.
We have to differentiate between Vikings and the Norse. Everyone has heard of Vikings, and we have a really clear idea about who the Vikings were and what they did, so âVikingâ is used to refer to seafaring Norse culture (and thatâs fine - language evolves, and if you say âVikingâ you can IMMEDIATELY communicate what youâre talking about.) However, âVikingâ is more of a professional term than the name of a culture - going viking is kind of like going hiking, or biking, but with more quaffing and stabbing. There were NOT entire civilizations consisting entirely of male berserker warriors pillaging their heads off, with maybe one or two shieldmaidens and a drippy ethereal blonde waiting nonspecifically back home, and if you think about it for about five seconds, you will see that this is a silly idea. After all, whatâs the point of pillaging and conquering and raiding the locals in soft green fertile countries if you donât⌠settle in the nice soft fertile area you have just conquered, and colonize it and keep it?Â
So while there were Vikings crashing around Europe/Africa/North America, frightening the livestock, their families also existed, and they were just plain Norse people. The Norse invaded and settled in plenty of places, and while we all prefer the sensational headline (âTHE VIKINGS INVADED BRITAINâ) there is also the historical truth (âNorse families settled down and farmed in close-knit British communities for many generations, and practiced extensive trade along their famous sea routes.â) The 2011 paper this headline appears to be based on is not about Vikings, itâs about Norse migrants. Itâs called Warriors and women: the sex ratio of Norse migrants to eastern England up to 900 ad and it basically says âYes, the Norse people who seized Eastern England were a balanced mix of men and women, BECAUSE THAT IS HOW HUMAN COLONIES USUALLY WORK.â
Now that being said, we do have to recognize that our concept of Vikings = warriors = men is false, because evidence suggests that even the original campaigns to conquer eastern England had a balanced mix of male and female people from the very beginning. And presumably they had a fair mix of farmers/crafters/diplomats/holy people/healers as well, on account of how they then proceeded to establish English colonies that traded and thrived for generations. But there was no reason to ever think otherwise, apart from our own weird beliefs that colonizing is an exclusively militaristic and violent enterprise, which can ONLY ever be done by warriors, who can ONLY ever be men. And that is a weird, convoluted, and frankly inefficient train of thought. Like clatterbane says, weâre just riffing off some of the silliest assumptions you can make about cultures. Think about it for five seconds. WHY WOULD YOU THINK THIS? DO ROLEPLAYING PARTIES EVER CONSIST ENTIRELY OF BERSERKERS? HOW WOULD THAT EVEN WORK? HOW WOULD THIS WAR PARTY THEN POPULATE AND INFLUENCE AN ENTIRE NATION? FOR GODâS SAKE. âOoh, I found a skeleton with a Nordic sword in England, ooh, he must have been a ferocious Viking who pillaged and raped his way here and was killed in battleâ OR MAYBE IT WAS A NICE NORSE MATRIARCH WHO LIVED HERE ON PURPOSE, SHE ONCE CUT A ROBBERâS HEAD OFF IN HER YOUTH BUT WAS LATER KICKED IN THE HEAD BY HER OWN COW. GOODNESS GRACIOUS ME.
I should demand to be buried in a bathtub in Kirkwall, wearing a bulletproof vest, with the skeleton of Myrtle the Fruit Bat clutched in my hands so that future anthropologists can be like âOooh yes this is the famous Batman weâve heard so much about, half man, half bat. He colonized the Orkneys in his famous porcelain boat and practiced a vampiric religion. He was a famous warrior who did a lot of nonconsensual pillaging, and thatâs why everyone in Scotland is so grim and dark. Preps stared at him, thatâs why heâs putting up his middle fingersâ
ANYWAY
that leads me to
Sexing from graves is not super reliable. So the paper that explains how Norse migrants included women did so by examining the bones of Norse graves. They concluded that many of the skeletons were female, rather than male, as had been previously assumed as the default. (NB: MOST OF THESE WERE NOT WARRIOR GRAVES - THEY WERE THE GRAVES OF NORSE MIGRANTS IN GENERAL. THERE WERE SOME MIXED GRAVE GOODS BUT NOTHING PARTICULARLY SUGGESTIVE OF GENDER, EVEN IF YOU BELIEVE THAT GENDER IS STRICTLY DETERMINED BY MALE SKELETONS HOLDING SWORDS AND FEMALE SKELETONS HOLDING, IDK, FRYING PANS. TO COOK PANCAKES FOR THE DEAD. LIKE WOMEN DO.) Like Clatterbane says above, we are FAR too used to making ridiculous assumptions just because we found some skeletons. âooh, these were high-status men from a fierce and amoral warrior culture that reproduced by kidnapping native women, and all the women and female children of the population were removed by evaporation. You can tell because the skeletons were buried with clothes on, and looked kinda cool.â Because sexing from grave goods is just a series of foolish, unfounded decisions. If you assume a skeleton is male because it was buried with weapons and armor, you are not making publication-worthy decisions. Many of these âX skeleton discovered to be female!â papers are based on osteological sexing, in which people with training in forensics or anthropology actually looked at the skeleton and went âHey wait, these are lady bones.â Which is what this paper is about - examining the bones and seeing that they are a balanced mix of male and female bones. But that is in ITSELF problematic becauseâŚ
Sexing from bones is hard work. Osteological sexing is just not as clear cut as it sounds on CSI, or in archaeology, where people declare with total certainty that a rotting skeleton is a young white female, by holding up a fragment of bone and squinting at it. (Trans and intersex people will also argue that sexing humans from our squishy flesh bodies, with genitals attached to them, is also unreliable. They are correct.) The only real areas in which gender can be suggested from bones is the chin sort of area (unreliable) and the pelvis. The pelvis usually wins. You can get a PERFECT male skull on a skeleton with a TEXTBOOK female pelvis, and in that case you would probably call your skeleton a female. She probably had a fierce strong chin in life, and thereâs nothing wrong with that.
The thing that you are looking for in the hips is the characteristic wider bowl shape of the pelvis, that allows most cis women to give birth via the vagina. Menâs pelvic bones theoretically make a circular hole, and womensâ are supposed to suggest more of an oval. Men should have a pointier bit like a v-neck sweater where the bones join in front, and women should have more of a scoop neck. And while the difference looks clear when youâre looking at the Textbook Examples in Grayâs AnatomyâŚ
Figure 1. âooh, this is easy! the male is on the left. You can tell because the textbook says the male one is on the left.â
⌠The real world is often not quite so obliging. After all, plenty of the women you know donât have curvy hourglass figures, with textbook female hips that are as broad as their shoulders. There are definitely women with âmasculineâ builds - and men with wide hips, too! There are slim, snake-hipped women whose narrow âmaleâ hips were historically associated with complications in childbirth, but women with that bone structure still exist today. In great numbers. Which we know because female pelvic bones are of IMMENSE interest in the field ofâŚÂ
OBSTETRICS. Childbirth. The whole âooh the female pelvis is DESIGNED by NATURE to be the PERFECT BABY DELIVERY CHUTEâ that skeleton-measurers will try to sell you? âOh this was definitely a lady skeleton because of the thing and the widget, which are Designed that way Because Childbirth.â Well, that does not stand up well against the filthy reality of childbirth. If you study obstetrics, or are carrying a fetus, you donât get the cutesy Male And Female pelvises. You get handed the Four Pelvic Types (âGood luck, bitchâ) and if the screaming pregnant lady in front of you has an Android (male) pelvis, then this is going to be A Fun Experience for all.
Figure 2. âFuck me. Sorry, Ms Viking Lady, we havenât invented c-sections yet so my book says youâre fucked. I ⌠donât suppose it will cheer you up to know that youâve secretly been a man all along? I mean, when we bury you tomorrow, your skeleton will really confuse future historians. WHOA PUT THE SWORD DOWNâ
This is called the Caldwell-Moloy Classification and you are welcome to google it. In the 1930s up until very recently, this chart was used to suggest whether a woman should have a C-section (we use ultrasounds for that now.) Only about half of women are said to be gynecoid (female) in shape, but I would LOOK THAT UP before quoting it. Itâs just something that stuck firmly in my head in college ten years ago, and I remember it clearly because I went and measured my hips in anxiety.* If you really want to get to grips with âhow many women have textbook male pelvesâ thenâŚ.Â
HEY GUESS WHAT KIDS, GET READY FOR RACIAL DIFFERENCES because youâre going to see casually mentioned things like âOh yes, about 30% of white women have male pelves. And half of WoC have anthropoid pelves.â And youâll be like SHIT WHAT?! DOES THIS⌠DO PEOPLE KNOW? And then there will be some throwaway fact like âOh, BTW, with an anthropoid pelvis, people just wonât be able to achieve a flat butt and stomach with dieting or whatever, the bones just wonât allow that look. The female skeleton can really only get that âidealâ modern model figure with an android pelvis - itâs fairly common in white women, presents a challenge in childbirth, and the skeleton looks male. Anyway, moving on -â And youâre still going WAIT WHAT, GO BACK. DOESNâT THIS CHANGE, IDK, ALL OF DIETING? ANTHROPOLOGY? HISTORY? FORENSICS? HELP? DO THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE KNOW THIS?
How many men have âfemaleâ (or anthropoid, or platypelloid) pelves? Well, traditionally cis men do not go through childbirth, so theyâre less interesting, so⌠I donât know. I donât fucking know. I have no fucking idea. Go find out and then tell me.
How many skeletons that we pronounced female were male all along? Who knows. How many skeletons assumed male are actually female? Who fucking knows.
Because childbirth isnât actually very interesting to most people, itâs hard to work out exactly what the fuck is going on, but apparently in 2015 researchers published a paper called Female pelvic shape: Distinct types or nebulous cloud? in which they concluded that female pelves are actually a nebulous cloud. A NEBULOUS CLOUD. FORGET THE NEAT AND TIDY LITTLE GRAYâS ANATOMY DRAWING, WE HAVE OFFICIALLY ENTERED THE REALM OF THE NEBULOUS FUCKING CLOUD. These researchers argue that Caldwell-Moloy is way too simplistic to be practical, and rather than clustering conveniently as obviously masculine, obviously feminine and âotherâ, all female pelves actually exist on a nebulous spectrum across all of the four pelvic types. Thereâs no point in trying to sort womenâs pelvic bones into âmaleâ and âfemaleâ categories, these researchers say - womenâs pelves are unique and unknowable, combining features from all of the known types in an âamorphous, cloudy continuum of shape variation.â OH GOOD. THATâS GOOD. THATâS A DIRECT QUOTE FROM THE ABSTRACT. IâM SO GLAD THAT WE ARE IN COMPLETE CONTROL AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON
Anyway. It isnât super easy to sex skeletons by their pelvic bones. Itâs a best guess sort of thing.
Maybe the only way you can identify a skeleton as female with 100% certainty is if its pelvic area is not a textbook âfemaleâ shape but a NEBULOUS FUCKING CLOUD.
So if you would like to re-write this headline to accurate reflect the findings of the paper, it should read
âSome Norse colonists in England had pelvic bones, and the rest had nebulous clouds. Nobody is driving this fucking bus and we should all be TERRIFIEDâ
 * I can relax - I have Official Childbearing Hips, and my midwife agrees! ** Anthropologists will enjoy my skeleton, but the makers of jeans believe I donât exist. Isnât that weird that forensics people and historians are convinced that 100% of women have splendidly gynecoid hips, while jeans manufacturers think that 0% of women do?Â
** EDITED TO ADD: I shouldnât have said this so flippantly. If you donât have wide gynecoid hip bones, and you plan to birth your own children, DONâT WORRY!!! This is FINE!!! Hipbones are meant to loosen and separate during labor, so people with ANY variation of hips are usually equipped to deliver a child through the vaginal canal. You can birth a baby with âmaleâ hips - we know this because childbearers with âmaleâ hips arenât extinct and people of all races manage to reproduce despite the variation in bone structure and you will be FINE. We have modern nutrition now, and bigger stronger bones, and better healthcare - so it isnât as much of a problem as it was in the past, and ANYWAY, YOU WILL BE FINE. Iâm sorry, I should have said. YOU ARE FINE, YOUR SHAPE IS FINE, AND IF YOU CHOOSE TO BIRTH A BABY, YOU WILL BE FINE.
Wait - I didnât know there were four types of pelvis? *makes gimmie hands for the science!*
Is there anything that humans have rigidly categorized that isnât actually a nebulous cloud?Â
GENDER OF THE DAY: NEBULOUS CLOUD!!



















