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something clever about the writing in the first couple episodes of s2 is that there's a lot of i think deliberate ambiguity around izzy, and in particular the ed-izzy relationship. this is very canny of the writers - they knew there was a lot of interest from fandom in that relationship and they also knew people interpreted it in wildly different often mutually contradictory ways, so the best way to satisfy everyone is to just leave all those different interpretations open as much as possible for as long as we can, even if we'll eventually have to nail down some of it in the finale. in those first few episodes they give the relationship a considerable amount of importance and focus, but they never really pin down super clearly what any of it MEANS, so it's left as a bit of a rorschach blot. lines like "i have...love for you" and "loved you best i could" are very carefully crafted so that you can read them in a million different ways that lead to very different takes on the whole relationship.
i think that's great! there are many many valid interpretations here and they're all very cool and interesting! but this is why it's really annoying to me that a large part of fandom - not just the canyon, i see it pretty regularly outside of those spaces too - has managed to land on one of the few possible interpretations that imo is actually very firmly ruled out as a valid possibility. i am speaking of course of the idea that izzy is at any point attempting to protect the crew by redirecting ed's violence onto himself.
i want to be clear here that i DO think izzy's arc is very much about learning to care deeply for the crew as a whole, and that's good and admirable of him. when i say that there is no point in the season (and especially not in the first three episodes) where he is attempting to sacrifice himself to protect the crew i don't mean this as something negative for izzy, and in fact in some ways the reason i find that read frustrating is that i think it's a more simplistic and less touching way to look at izzy than what he's actually got going on with the crew. we'll come back to that.
for now though i want to hit on the scenes people tend to point to as evidence he's sacrificing himself for the crew. in every single case i think there are clear reasons why that's not a viable interpretation; in fact, most of them are scenes where izzy's actions actively put the crew in danger. and furthermore in every single case there would be a very easy way to rewrite the scene if the writers HAD wanted to make izzy's actions self-sacrificial.
1. reporting to ed about the crew's discontent
this one is i think the most straightforwardly weird to me as an interpretation. the idea i see from a lot of people is that when izzy goes to ed and tells him the crew doesn't want to throw treasure overboard, he is throwing himself on the grenade: he knows that ed will lash out violently at whoever gives him this information, so he's doing it before anyone on the crew can.
but there is a pretty obvious problem here, which is that if izzy believes ed will react to news of the crew rejecting an order by becoming violent toward them, and he wants to protect the crew from violence, then telling ed about the crew's sentiments is the absolute worst possible thing to do. if he thinks ed is likely to want to punish the crew, he is directly putting them in danger by doing this! if he wants to protect them from the wrath of blackbeard then he ought to be doing everything in his power to make sure ed does not find out the crew feels this way! talk the crew out of it, dump the treasure overboard himself, try to distract ed with other matters, literally anything.
maybe you think none of that would work, and ed would eventually find out anyway. in that case, if izzy really is willing to sacrifice himself for the sake of the crew, then what he should do is obvious: tell ed he himself is the one who doesn't want to throw the treasure overboard. present it as an idea that came from him, not from the crew. that way ed has no reason at all to even consider retaliating against the crew and izzy could be confident any consequences would fall only on him. and it would be a great scene! we in the audience would understand exactly what he was doing and why!
but he doesn't do that. he either does not think there is any chance of ed becoming violent toward the crew because of this, or he doesn't care at this point if it happens, at least not enough to try to stop it.
2. getting shot
the idea here is that in the scene where ed marches out on deck to point his gun at each crewmember and ask why the atmosphere on the ship is poisoned, the reason izzy finally shouts "pack it in" or "fucking end" or whatever it is he says, and then goes on to blame the atmosphere on the ship on "your feelings for stede bonnet," is that he cannot bear to allow ed to endanger the crew, and he is willing to take his life in his hands in order to confront ed and put a stop to this so the crew can be safe.
in this case i totally understand where you could come to that conclusion if you heard someone describe the episode. but watch the actual scene and it is clearly not what's happening.
because izzy does not do anything at all while ed is threatening the crew. watch it again. ed pulls out his gun and points it at each named member of the crew in turn for a total of about 15 seconds, which is a fairly long time on tv, and the entire time izzy just stands there stoically, watching what's happening, looking really tired and done with this shit (valid of him!) but not even particularly worried about what's going to happen. ed then turns the gun on himself, no longer threatening the crew, and then and only then does izzy act.
it would be very easy to rewrite this scene so that izzy actually did intervene to stop ed threatening the crew! all you'd have to do is change the timing of when he speaks up! if the writers still really wanted to show ed's suicidal ideation, they could have had the scene start with ed putting the gun under his own chin and then had him move to threatening the crew so izzy could put a stop to it at that point. if you really wanted to make the point you could have had izzy interrupt ed's tirade by physically stepping between fang and the gun. i can easily imagine that version of the scene and it would be really cool and badass! but it's not what happened.
(bit of a tangent here but one way you COULD interpret the scene is that while izzy is NOT trying to protect the crew from ed, he IS trying to protect ed from himself, despite knowing he's endangering himself in the process. that's not how i personally read it for a couple reasons - izzy waits several seconds after ed turns the gun on himself before reacting at all, and the later "dreamed you killed me" scene really reads to me like that's the very first time izzy realizes ed is seriously suicidal. the reasons i think izzy speaks up when he does are kind of complicated and i'll have to get into that in another post sometime. anyway though i do think that interpretation would be reasonable, unlike the one where he's protecting the crew.)
3. asking jim and archie to kill him
this is where we first see izzy in the next episode, where they've got him hidden in the secret room and he's screaming "kill me." the idea is that he believes ed will violently punish jim, archie and frenchie for defying orders by keeping him alive, and he would rather die himself than see them come to harm, so he's screaming in hopes of forcing them to kill him before ed can find him.
this has the same problem as scene #1 above: if the scenario izzy's trying to avoid is having ed discover him alive, then screaming is the absolute worst possible thing to do. every time he screams there's a significant chance ed will hear him and know what's going on - we know that's a risk because of how desperately jim and archie try to shush him! again, what izzy is doing is actively endangering the crew. i do not hold this against him at all, he's going through a lot here and i'd be screaming too. izzy is in severe physical pain, his chances of survival are at best a coinflip anyway, and he is on record as believing that being vulnerable in front of others is a fate worse than death. it's not surprising he wants them to kill him under the circumstances. it's not for their protection, though.
but imagine a version of the scene where izzy is heroically biting back his screams to avoid putting his caretakers in danger. imagine him instead telling jim and archie in a whisper to kill him so they can stay safe. that's easy to picture, right? and it would be a really affecting scene? that's what we'd have seen if the point of this were that izzy was trying to sacrifice himself for the crew's sake.
(there's part of me that actually kind of wishes we got something like that version of the scene. i think it would do a lot to strengthen izzy's redemption arc if at some point during red flags we saw izzy actually recognizing how big a risk jim and frenchie were taking for his sake and being touched by it. but the fact is we don't.)
4. trying to pick fights with stede
during the innkeeper ed is firmly out of the way. but izzy spends most of the episode trying over and over again to antagonize stede - insulting him, claiming to be the one who damaged his stuff, etc. the framing i see from people is that izzy is doing this strategically, because he views stede as a threat to the crew since stede could report the mutiny to zheng. izzy is therefore trying to keep stede's attention and ire focused on himself so that when stede realizes ed's been killed he will be inclined to blame izzy alone instead of the whole crew.
(typing the word "strategically" there made me realize a problem with this interpretation that i actually hadn't noticed before which is that izzy is simply never that strategic about anything. izzy's idea of cunning social manipulation is saying shit like "perform like it's your last night on earth" to a guy he thinks is going to be murdered tomorrow while he menacingly strokes a curtain. he is not capable of even the basic level of subtlety this theory attributes to him. when he antagonizes someone it's because he's sincerely pissed at them.)
now i do think that by the time of the innkeeper izzy has started to feel a genuine sense of gratitude toward the crew for the way they risked themselves to keep him alive, and he trauma-bonded with them during the mutiny. so i do think he sincerely cares about the crew at this point and wants to protect them. i also think it's correct that he perceives stede and zheng as threats. when he says to stede "we cannot allow this crew to suffer any more for our mistakes" i think he 100% sincerely means that. but i do not think that's why he's trying to pick fights with stede. because, like with the other scenes above, izzy's interactions with stede actually end up unnecessarily endangering the crew.
this comes back to the line i'm always obsessed with, where stede asks if they sent ed to doggy heaven, and izzy says "no, i could never do that." i always harp on how he doesn't need to say that - he could have skipped straight to "no, we left him on an island," he doesn't need to talk about his emotions or motivations at all - and how izzy's deliberately lying here. but in this case the thing to notice is that line straight up throws the crew under the bus. phrasing it that way makes it sound like the crew would have wanted to kill ed but izzy himself, individually, was the only thing standing in the way. if he wants stede to focus his anger on him instead of on the crew this is the worst possible thing to say!
izzy could have phrased this line in a way that protected the crew. he could have said "no, WE could never do that," emphasizing to stede that the whole crew loved ed and didn't want to harm him. even more than that, he could easily have phrased it in a way that would clearly give stede license to be angry at izzy individually while giving the crew an out! "no, i said we should put him down like a wild dog, but those soft-hearted twats insisted we leave him alive on an island" - that would accomplish the exact goal of giving stede a reason to hate izzy AND to want to protect the crew.
so if you think that izzy has been antagonizing stede as part of a plan to focus stede's anger on him and protect the crew, that line makes no sense. if however you interpret izzy's behavior toward stede in this episode the way i do - that izzy has an emotional need to position himself as stede's romantic rival and wants stede to give him the validation of responding to him that way, rather than admitting to himself what really happened and what his role in this narrative really is - then the line makes complete sense and actually reinforces the arc and even helps set up the ultimate resolution of that stede-izzy arc, where stede refusing to respond to izzy the way he wants and instead choosing to save izzy alongside the crew ultimately shocks izzy into realizing he owes stede his thanks.
"alongside the crew" really gets back at the heart of what i'm saying here about izzy's arc. in addition to not actually making sense on a basic plot-logic level, thinking of izzy as the crew's protector imo kind of undermines his arc, because the thing is that still kind of holds him apart from the rest of the crew. but as djenks said in nearly every s2 interview about izzy, izzy's arc for the season is about coming to see himself for the very first time as part of a team, as having a responsibility to his crewmates just as they have a reciprocal responsibility to him. he is not trying to die for his crew. he has come to think of himself as one of them, as living or dying alongside them, and for someone like izzy that's a much bigger change.
This topic came up again yesterday. This is a great analysis. A logical step by step. Even if you ignore the fact that Izzy the Savior is out of character (and boring, to me; I like him salty and selfish), the concept just doesn't hold up to logical scrutiny from a storytelling perspective. Writers usually do things for a reason.
What if everytime Blackbeard got bored and wanted to hurt someone in the crew for fun, Izzy stood before him, challaing or provoking, so Blackbeard would lay into him and forget about tormenting the crew
Because it's his duty as first mate to protect his captain as well as his crew.
do we think maybe that making headcanons where a character of color is violent in a way he is not in canon so we can imagine a white character stepping in and defending people from this OOC violence is, i dunno, in poor taste? perhaps?
Izzy did not give a single shit about the crew until they made him a new leg. It's just not in character for him to care. This take has always baffled me. I don't even know how it can become a headcanon. There's nothing in the show to support it and a million things that contradict it.
Ed wanted to make sure they had cake, for fucks sake. Obviously, his conduct after Izzy refused to shoot him - where he tried to take everyone down with him - was not acceptable. But... And honestly, I just don't get it at all.... How could someone watch this show and think Ed was worse than Izzy?
The "Izzy is a protector" thing has been a thing since S1 was airing as a way to excuse his abuse. We have multiple examples of Izzy tormenting the crew for fun, but not at all with Ed. "Headcanons" like to assign Izzy's negative traits to Ed, and Ed's virtues and themes to Izzy, for reasons.
But the worst of this I've seen is that Izzy's deathbed confession wasn't an actual acknowledgement of Izzy's horrific abuse that we all saw happen, but it was Izzy once again taking Ed's violence so he won't abuse Stede.
What if everytime Blackbeard got bored and wanted to hurt someone in the crew for fun, Izzy stood before him, challaing or provoking, so Blackbeard would lay into him and forget about tormenting the crew
Because it's his duty as first mate to protect his captain as well as his crew.
do we think maybe that making headcanons where a character of color is violent in a way he is not in canon so we can imagine a white character stepping in and defending people from this OOC violence is, i dunno, in poor taste? perhaps?
Izzy did not give a single shit about the crew until they made him a new leg. It's just not in character for him to care. This take has always baffled me. I don't even know how it can become a headcanon. There's nothing in the show to support it and a million things that contradict it.
Ed wanted to make sure they had cake, for fucks sake. Obviously, his conduct after Izzy refused to shoot him - where he tried to take everyone down with him - was not acceptable. But... And honestly, I just don't get it at all.... How could someone watch this show and think Ed was worse than Izzy?
my favorite thing Ed does (especially in season 1) is how when he wants something really bad (especially something he thinks he's not supposed to want) his eyes get all enormous and he gets a little flustered. and then he tries to act nonchalant and unbothered. like sorry champ we all saw you yearning!! keep telling yourself you're so cool, you're not fooling anyone
This is one of the most puzzling things about the success of the Blackbeard mask to me. Sure, he can slip on the cool persona really well, he's got looking badass perfected into an art form, but he also has those huge expressive eyes that give away his every emotion, and that aside he struggles to hide the dork under the cool façade. But somehow, he can talk about frankfurter clouds, play silly pirate games with Jack and there have to be moments even pre-Stede where he loots a nice silk or some other little luxury off some rich merchant ship and those big eyes betray his want for beautiful things he thinks he can't have. But he's so isolated from everyone around him, so alone in his Blackbeard shaped cage, that nobody ever notices. And that's so sad! I mean, Izzy absolutely wouldn't notice, he's so stuck up in his Blackbeard headcanons, but, none of his old friends? None of his crew? Nobody is ever actually looking at Ed. They look at Blackbeard, and immediately ignore and discard anything that contradicts the Blackbeard headcanons.
it literally breaks my heart for him, is it any wonder he fell for Stede so hard when Stede is like the only person in the show to ever look at him and see Ed as a whole person?
i do think personally this is why Ed's so happy to see Jack and especially Anne and Mary. it seems like he's known them for a really long time and especially with Anne and Mary he can kind of let his guard down a bit around them. they're not good friends to him, not at all, but they act like they see through the Blackbeard thing just a little bit. Anne and Mary don't even call him Blackbeard! they're not good friends but that has to feel like such a relief it makes sense why Ed is willing to overlook things with them.
but yeah everyone else is just...looking straight through him. they know who Blackbeard is and everything Ed does that doesn't immediately fit with that is just discarded. it's so wild to me bc even in Ed's first interactions with the Revenge crew he's just. so Ed. he's guarded sure but he's friendly and approachable and likeable. he does not walk around acting like the head on fire stereotype. it makes me really think what we see Izzy doing in season one, saying "how should i know the man's half-insane" when the crew question Ed's decisions, has to be doing a lot of heavy lifting right? sure Ed does pirate things but his long-time crew's behavior in season 2 makes it abundantly clear the Kraken stuff is so far from his usual behavior. like i simply do not believe that at the point we see in the show Ed's behavior alone supports the way others view him, it's just so mismatched with how he actually acts. for me it makes sense that the crew's interpretation has to be filtered through a) Ed isolating himself most of the time and b) Izzy (and probably all the first mates/other crewmates that came before him that worked closely with Ed) presenting Ed's decisions in a way that makes him seem erratic and impossible to understand. that's the only way i think everyone could look at this normal friendly dude and be thinking "what could Blackbeard possibly be up to" while all that Ed is doing is walking around going "hi everybody i'm Blackbeard! woah that guy has a bird on his head :o"
and in a way that makes it even more heartbreaking bc i really doubt Ed realizes the extent of how everyone talks about him while he's not there. from his perspective it probably just seems like he's being his normal, isolated but still undeniably friendly and likeable self, and everyone treats him like he's a monster and he's just like yeah. as expected. this makes sense and i deserve this. and that's tearing me apart tbh!!
Stede and Ed do have this immediate chemistry, but yeah, there's also definitely the bit where Stede treats Ed as a whole person and that's so fucking rare that it's gotta feel like the first sunlight after a long winter.
"Friend" is a really broad umbrella term for a lot of relationships, isn't it. Jack, Anne and Mary are the knew-them-for-ages, can-get-up-to-shenanigans, will-let-me-unwind-and-goof-off friends. Which is a valuable relationship! Some friends are for playing games together, or getting drunk together, or for friendly teasing. I think Ed's complaint in Art of Fuckery is a complaint of "I have no friend who really has my back, who won't make fun of me, who I can trust with the dark and the vulnerable bits of myself". What he lacks isn't friends to spend the time and have fun with; he lacks a best friend.
Yeah, that's a good scene to illustrate what I meant. The Revenge crew expected head of smoke, devil pyrate of legend. That's what they thought Blackbeard was! But instead, they get a guy who greets them personally, makes jokes and genuinely likes the local bird guy. That's. Not the guy of legend?
It's also really fascinating how much of Izzy's way of spinning everything seems to be taken at face value, both in s1 and even more so in s2. (Where it's more jarring and harmful even IMO.) Like. We see on various occasions that the crew, old and new, don't like and don't listen to Izzy. They don't actually respect Izzy's leadership. They make fun of Izzy. They seem to be quite aware that Izzy is full of shit. And yet, they believe Izzy about Ed and they believe Izzy over Ed, again and again. (Which brings me back to my single one s2 pet peeve, that nobody ever learns the role Izzy played in Ed's depressive suicide spiral...).
But it's a whole theme in Ed's arc, how other people look right through him because they're so dazzled by the sparkling image of Blackbeard, and how several people close to Ed are able to use the effect of Nobody Sees Ed Really to manipulate others around him. Izzy does it, over and over. Calico Jack also does it. And even Ed himself keeps bending himself out of shape to appease his peers' headcanons of him, because he thinks he needs to live up to those expectations for people to like him. He plays up Blackbeard for Izzy (and the crew). He plays up Blackie for Jack. And even where he doesn't play any role, when he is just a friendly and likable guy, it doesn't even matter, because the expectations are there and everyone only sees Blackbeard and not Ed, and then yes, he goes about his day normally and gets treated like a monster and at some point the natural conclusion is "yeah, I deserve that because I am in fact a monster and everyone can see the stain on me".
And somewhere in this constant circle of "other people seeing right through Ed" and "Ed playing up what people want to see in him", even outside of his trauma-based "I'm a monster", Ed gets so lost he doesn't feel like he knows who he is and how he wants to live.
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Was driving with my grandmother and in broken English she says “no eyes… no nose… no face. Don’t trust.” To which I looked around wildly in search of this omen of ill portend.
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imagination adventure: how would ofmd fandom have reacted if ed had pulled izzy aside after la vie en rose and said "my first mate is izzy fucking hands not some namby-pamby wearing glitter. if you're going to act like this you better watch your fucking step, mate."
do we think anyone would be arguing that's not cruel or verbally abusive? that it's kind of insensitive phrasing but really just tough love intended to protect izzy? that it's not homophobic because there's no homophobia in this show and also ed can't be homophobic he's literally gay i can't believe people think ed's straight? that it's not a threat?
In the first GIF, you can see the second David becomes suspicious. The slight narrowing of his eyes and the magnificent eyebrow twitch. It's just for a split second, but it's great face acting.
started thinking about how Ed's past is presented to the audience and the more i think about it the more interesting i find it.
bc the consistent throughline is twofold really.
Ed has had a very violent past. piracy is canonically a culture of extreme abuse and Ed has been part of this culture for a long time.
the only violence in Ed's past that is ever dwelled on or given any weight in the story is what happened with his dad.
we know Ed's had a lot of violence in his life, but the way the story presents it really kind of drives home the idea that specific pirate violence isn't character-defining for Ed. pirate violence Ed participates in is all off-screen. he's visibly very upset when Jack brings up a specific episode, and iirc that's the only specific instance we get any information on. even in season 2 during the raid montage he's not participating.
this ties in with what we know about piracy. the only times Ed does pirate things on screen, like threatening captured captains or even cutting off Izzy's toes, it's either obviously part of his job or clearly foreshadowed as known pirate things. and that fits with how the very first episode of the show establishes that we should understand in this universe people do not want to be pirates, it's a choice borne of necessity, and mutiny is common. the overall idea: Ed's done exactly what he's had to do to survive and no more, and the show doesn't judge him for it.
and then Ed killing his dad. it's so very excusable to us, the audience. a teenager in an abusive household killing his and his mother's abuser is like the textbook example of a justified murder. but it's this that Ed keeps coming back to. it's this he thinks defines him. and i think that's bc it wasn't an accident, it wasn't heat of the moment, it wasn't part of his job, it was premeditated and he proved he could carry through with it. i don't think Ed would feel the way about himself he does even if he'd killed his dad in a fight or while actively defending his mom. the capacity for premeditated violence carried out in anger is what really scares him.
and all this paints the picture of Ed as a guy who thinks he's a monster bc of this one traumatic event that happened while he was a child, who is so scared of the cold anger of finally fighting back that gave him the capacity to kill his dad, and despite this violent episode he defines himself by, the show is overall pretty careful to demonstrate Ed is not an angry and violent person by choice or by nature. he's in a violent profession and he's done what he's had to do to survive, and that's it. it doesn't help his self-image for sure but to the audience it provies his self-image is skewed. and i think the show easily could've just made a one note thing out of it, "Ed's a violent pirate and he struggles with being violent," but it's so much more nuanced than that and i really admire the craft of it.
Totally. Adding that Ed is a gentle person, an emotional person, and Stede meets him there, and I think that's why he gets drawn to Stede so quickly and why he tearfully confesses to killing his dad - Stede represents what he wants in addition to his being a safe person to whom Ed can express the guilt he's been carrying all those years. When Jack brings up the burning ship, Ed is unhappy at the reminder but also that Stede, who represents the life he wants, is hearing that about him. His past puts his future at risk. And when he succumbs to Izzy's bullying and his own self worth issues, his fears are realized - he's unlovable, and he can't have the soft, gentle life he needs. He pushes Lucius off the ship (which honestly gives him a fighting chance, to swim or to climb back aboard, a violent maneuver but still passive in a way) for reasons that I still don't fully understand. But he decides he'd rather die than continue with his cold, hard existence. But in the end, as Izzy says, he can't do it himself. He's not a violently-natured person. So he develops the Kraken and imposes violence upon the crew, a terrible thing to do, but passive all the same, a step removed from himself, from Edward, and not directly hurting anyone. He directs but doesn't participate. He really doesn't have it in him.
reposting because ed’s skin ended up too light with that low opacity watercolor look, sorry about that. took this opportunity to add more sleepover content though
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Hearing Ed utter the words “you left me… for Mary.” is just so fucking gut wrenching to me. We as the audience know that Stede didn’t run back to his wife because he was in love with her — he did it because Chauncey Badminton held a gun to his face and told him he ruined everything beautiful. Including Ed. So Stede went back to his wife not only because he felt genuinely guilty for abandoning her and their children and wanted to fix the first thing that he felt he had screwed up at. But because he also felt like he had ruined Ed, ruined Blackbeard, and in his own way thought that leaving him was giving him his life of piracy back since Ed had taken the Act of Grace for Stede.
And I really loved the closure that Stede got with his wife and children at the end of season 1. It was so beautiful, and when Mary told him she hoped he found the same love she found with Doug, and Stede said he had, and she asked what her name was, and his response was “his name is Ed.” She didn’t even flinch. She just smiled and gave him a hug.
I just love that homophobia does not exist in this universe (unless it’s Izzy inventing it solely to internalize it).
But Ed didn’t know about any of this. He was left waiting by the docks all night, and when he saw the sun rise, the hope that Stede had give him just shattered. And he felt like his worst fears were confirmed — that he was unlovable. And hearing Anne reveal this casually at the dinner table just opened up that wound all over again.
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