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Okay, this is super long, but please please please bear with me, because I think this is a really good Johnlock theory, and if you ship it, I’m pretty sure you will like this.
I’ve talked about this so many times (and I probably will continue to lol) but Y’ALL, the coffin scene from The Final problem (AKA the scene that everyone in the fandom agrees should have canonized Johnlock).
To me, Sherlock’s interaction with Molly in this scene never made any sense. Like let’s say that you were in Molly’s position. You’re crush of years and years, who you know doesn’t reciprocate your feelings, calls you and tells you that (for no apparent reason) they need you to tell them that you love them. How would you react? Personally, I would be angry, just like Molly was. But I would either refuse, or just do it and then find some way to punish them after, I wouldn’t make them say it to me first. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I feel like that would just be more painful. Like, you love this guy who doesn’t think of you that way. He tells you that he loves you even though you know he doesn’t mean it. To me, that would sting so much. Molly makes him do it as punishment, but that’s illogical. It’s already hard for Sherlock to put her through this, and wouldn’t it only make it painful for him to say “I love you,” if it was going to hurt her more? If Sherlock saying that he loves Molly is punishment because that means he’s hurting her more, Molly is just punishing herself. What I think is that Molly is punishing him in a different way. Mofftiss makes it pretty clear that everyone thinks John and Sherlock are in love but they just don’t know/acknowledge it, and most of the fandom agrees that even if John doesn’t think of Sherlock that way, Sherlock is definitely in love with John. Also, it seems as if Moftiss are implying that Sherlock is gay with the whole “You don’t have a girl friend, then?” “Girlfriend? No, not really my area.” “Do you have a boyfriend?” “No.” I think that Molly is punishing Sherlock by making him do exactly what he’s trying to get her to do, admit his love his unrequited love (or requited but he just doesn’t know it).
As I said, everyone around them has observed to some extent that they are in love, or at least that Sherlock is in love with John. Molly must have noticed this, but she thinks that Sherlock has deduced that John must not reciprocate, because otherwise he would have confessed his feelings, and they would be together already.
In short, Molly is hurting Sherlock the same way that he is hurting her. When she says
“Say it like you mean it.“
she’s implying that he has to say it not as if he means it, but as if he’s saying it to the person he loves. Sherlock realizes this, and it’s painful for him to say it. Afterwards, when Eurus tells him that the threat wasn’t real, he loses it, and destroys the coffin. He’s angry and hurt because he had to hurt his friend and admit the feelings that he has suppressed for so long, and in the end it was for no reason at all.
Yep, at a plot-wise level the punishment is directed to Sherlock (and John by extent), which is what left us baffled. Why drag, of all people, Molly into this? Doesn’t it seem a little too convenient, does it? Why punish already hurt characters, and leave us with this botched “love confession”?
IMHO the plot of this scene makes little sense because it’s there as a representation of a higher meta level - aaand this is where I go on a tangent, but stay with me.
Let’s establish some key points (under the cut).
I believe Mark said something to the effect (In response to someone asking between the release of the promo and the episode if the love confession from Sherlock was to John) “No, John is behind him. So, not unless he was confessing to a mirror” - so, it would seem he told us, but did we listen?
yes! that mirror comment was as plain a #confirmed moment as they could (or would) give. right up there with them coming right out and saying “there’s a subtext to john’s drinking”.
Interesting discussion! I always thought this scene with Molly would be absurd taken at face value. But of course this goes for the whole of S4 - it’s only the magnitude of the absurdities that increases in TFP. And yes; this is indeed a game of mirrors, which I believe is confirmed by Gatiss’ rather telling comment. I definitely agree with @fluffbyday-smutbynight about ‘theatre of the absurd’ and Molly being a mirror for John, but if I could add another layer of possible interpretation to it (my own very speculative one :-) ), it would be this:
If we assume that S4 basically takes place in Sherlock’s mind palace where he keeps running scenarios, then I think this could also be seen as his private ‘purgatory’ where he’s confronted with his ‘demons’, his major problems that are haunting him constantly. And his brain tries to solve them by improvising scenes in his Mind Theatre and see how they play out, to get to conclusions. I think one big issue that bothers Sherlock is whether John loves him or not, but he dares not even imagine John confessing love directly to him, so he tries to figure out a way to trick him into it by testing different scenarios with ‘mirrors’ for John as actors.
In TLD Sherlock tries - and fails - by trickery to get a proper ‘confession’ out of another John mirror: Culverton Smith, who probably represents John’s ‘dark’ side. Smith seems to have a need for confessing, but only if he can erase it afterwards, hence the drug that makes people forget what they hear. (It’s a bit like John’s backpedalling at Angelo’s in ASiP, isn’t it? ;-) John questions Sherlock about his relationships and says ‘fine, we’re both unattached’, while also loudly declaring that ‘I’m not his date’ and denying that he wanted to ask Sherlock out). In TLD Sherlock tells Smith that “You talk to the dead. You make your confession to them.”, which would at least partly fit with John’s little speech at Sherlock’s supposed grave in TRF, that Sherlock overheard. But at the end of TLD, after almost killing Sherlock, Smith claims that he wasn’t actually confessing anything. Later Smith keeps confessing to the police, though, and “apparently he can’t stop confessing“. But Sherlock isn’t really witness to any specific confession, is he?
So now in TFP it’s time to test another scenario where Molly, who Sherlock knows has a crush on him, is the John mirror. He desperately tries to make Molly confess her love to him, but the big issue is that Molly refuses to do it unless Sherlock declares his feelings first. And this is the major obstacle for Sherlock, because it means he must stop trying to analyse John and instead focus on his own feelings. And he, Sherlock, must take the first step and ‘out’ himself as being in love, something that he has probably abhorred for most of his life. But he does it anyway for the sake of emergency, to avoid the John-mirror’s death - in other words to ’save John Watson’.
This is different from the scenario with the ’dark’ John mirror Culverton Smith, where Sherlock never admitted to anything about himself, except for his fear of ’dying’. If dying in Sherlock’s mind is a metaphor for falling in love, then the consequences of being ruled by Sentiment might be the great fear he experiences in TLD. But Sherlock ’knows’ that John will come and rescue him from this horror, because Smith (the dark John mirror) doesn’t actually confess to anything specific.
Molly, on the other hand, does confess eventually, but she forces Sherlock to take the first step. She throws Sherlock’s own method right back at him, as @the-gay-bbc-boys explains above. But when Sherlock finally gives up and does say ’I love you’, coercing these words out of Molly as well, he’s being told (by Eurus) that there was actually no emergency and that his confession only served to hurt Molly. Maybe because the circumstances of the confession made the John-mirror believe Sherlock didn’t mean it anyway? So not even this scenario could offer an acceptable solution to Sherlock. And this is why, I believe, Sherlock breaks down and furiously smashes the whole ’I love you’ box in frustration.
But what could Sherlock possibly learn from his mental exercise with these scenarios, other than what he already believed he knew; that love confessions are risky and potentially harmful? Well, maybe he could learn that in order to communicate properly with John, in order to really ’save’ him, Sherlock first needs to embrace his own emotional side and be honest about it. ’It’s not a game anymore’, as Molly informs him in TLD. He needs to embrace Eurus. Which he ultimately also does at the end of TFP. By hugging Eurus Sherlock manages to figure out how to rescue John from the deep well he’s trapped in.
Just my two cents on the ’I love you’ scene in TFP. :) But I’m not saying I think this is the end of the story; I rather believe it’s the preparation for the end of the story (which would be S5, whenever it comes). ;)
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Agreed @possiblyimbiassed ! To me this is, just like you said, a case of running scenarios. The confession-theme we see popping up throughout the show revisited. This time we actually see a confession, both from Sherlock himself and from John‘s female mirror Molly. Afterwards Sherlock destroys the ‚I love you‘-coffin which, to me, seems like he wants to destroy his sad perception of love (death = falling in love). Because that’s what the show and S4 especially is about: deconstructing metaphors of love, sexuality etc. (that are portrayed as villainous) as a result of Sherlock being confronted with his inner demons (fear of love etc.). And that’s why we not only see a John Watson that‘s being saved from the well in TFP but also one who repaints the yellow smiley-face at 221B.
Okay, this is super long, but please please please bear with me, because I think this is a really good Johnlock theory, and if you ship it, I’m pretty sure you will like this.
I’ve talked about this so many times (and I probably will continue to lol) but Y’ALL, the coffin scene from The Final problem (AKA the scene that everyone in the fandom agrees should have canonized Johnlock).
To me, Sherlock’s interaction with Molly in this scene never made any sense. Like let’s say that you were in Molly’s position. You’re crush of years and years, who you know doesn’t reciprocate your feelings, calls you and tells you that (for no apparent reason) they need you to tell them that you love them. How would you react? Personally, I would be angry, just like Molly was. But I would either refuse, or just do it and then find some way to punish them after, I wouldn’t make them say it to me first. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I feel like that would just be more painful. Like, you love this guy who doesn’t think of you that way. He tells you that he loves you even though you know he doesn’t mean it. To me, that would sting so much. Molly makes him do it as punishment, but that’s illogical. It’s already hard for Sherlock to put her through this, and wouldn’t it only make it painful for him to say “I love you,” if it was going to hurt her more? If Sherlock saying that he loves Molly is punishment because that means he’s hurting her more, Molly is just punishing herself. What I think is that Molly is punishing him in a different way. Mofftiss makes it pretty clear that everyone thinks John and Sherlock are in love but they just don’t know/acknowledge it, and most of the fandom agrees that even if John doesn’t think of Sherlock that way, Sherlock is definitely in love with John. Also, it seems as if Moftiss are implying that Sherlock is gay with the whole “You don’t have a girl friend, then?” “Girlfriend? No, not really my area.” “Do you have a boyfriend?” “No.” I think that Molly is punishing Sherlock by making him do exactly what he’s trying to get her to do, admit his love his unrequited love (or requited but he just doesn’t know it).
As I said, everyone around them has observed to some extent that they are in love, or at least that Sherlock is in love with John. Molly must have noticed this, but she thinks that Sherlock has deduced that John must not reciprocate, because otherwise he would have confessed his feelings, and they would be together already.
In short, Molly is hurting Sherlock the same way that he is hurting her. When she says
“Say it like you mean it.“
she’s implying that he has to say it not as if he means it, but as if he’s saying it to the person he loves. Sherlock realizes this, and it’s painful for him to say it. Afterwards, when Eurus tells him that the threat wasn’t real, he loses it, and destroys the coffin. He’s angry and hurt because he had to hurt his friend and admit the feelings that he has suppressed for so long, and in the end it was for no reason at all.
Yep, at a plot-wise level the punishment is directed to Sherlock (and John by extent), which is what left us baffled. Why drag, of all people, Molly into this? Doesn’t it seem a little too convenient, does it? Why punish already hurt characters, and leave us with this botched "love confession”?
IMHO the plot of this scene makes little sense because it’s there as a representation of a higher meta level - aaand this is where I go on a tangent, but stay with me.
Let’s establish some key points (under the cut).
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表紙
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① cover (of a book, magazine, etc.); binding
② appear on the cover of a magazine (slang)
本を表紙で判断するな。 ほん を ひょうし で はんだん する な。 Don't judge a book by its cover.
Getting very sick of trans-identified men making creepy, voyeuristic media about the violence and suffering that women and girls experience at the hands of men.
MUSIC especially!! Femtanyl can fucking die with his bdsm-esque abuse music material
Though I had a few in mind, this is actually exactly who inspired this post.
More specifically, I found out he has a song called "girl hell 1999", based on a japanese movie of the same name where underaged girls are raped and tortured. Also was thinking of another song by a trans-id man called "fukouna girl" which is based on a torture hentai animation of a young girl being skinned alive by lasers (I've encountered this song a lot because it's currently trendy with amateur animators, including minors). Both these dudes are white guys projecting onto and identifying with the sexual torture of japanese girls, because of course these fucking porn addicts would.
Then there's also Ethel Cain of course, who edited himself onto the missing persons poster of Amber Haggerman (who the Amber alert was named after), a little girl who was brutally raped and murdered, so he could use it as advertising for his rape and incest fetishism album. No, I'm not kidding:
And these are only a drop in the bucket of men who are able to avoid criticism for their exploitation of femicide and violence against women because they claim the right identities. I am fucking tired of seeing this appalling shit.
Ethel Cain also called a neurodivergent woman ret*rded and called other women dumb bitches, so yeah way more people need to be hating on him.
Being surrounded by basically nude hypersexualized images of women is bad for women and girls self esteem like this isn’t even an opinion it’s just a fact. It is humiliating for women to watch other women be humiliated
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"let's gender desegregate sports and make it all into one league so it's skill based instead of gender based!!!"
hey. so i know the vast majority of people on tumblr haven't kicked a ball since 7th grade PE class but i can guarantee you if we got rid of women's leagues and put everyone together there would be very, very few women in sports. There would be no women in basketball, football, and track. and this isn't "misogynistic" of me to say. let's just look at the stats.
in texas, the 2025 400m record for high school boys is 47.30 seconds. meanwhile, the women's world record in the 400m was set in 1985 by Marita Koch, at a time of 47.60 seconds.
there have been a total of just 38 dunks in the entire history of the WNBA. since the 1996-97 NBA season, there have been over 210,000 dunks recorded, with the record going to dwight howard at 2950. Both leagues have the same hoop heights.
i've seen people say that katie ledecky is faster than michael phelps and this is evidence that women can compete with men on a professional level. it is true that ledecky is faster than phelps in the 400, 800, and 1500m freestyle. however, the last time michael phelps competed in these three events was when he was 15 years old. in fact, if you were to place katie ledecky in the men's league for the 800m (in which she has set a world record!) she would be 21 seconds slower than the man in 25th place!
it's not misogynistic to believe that sexual dimorphism exists.
"i know girls who could beat boys twice over!!!" yes, in your middle school or high school. y'all don't even know what professional level looks like and it shows.
trans mascs racking their brain to come up with non sex related reasons as to why they’re treated like shit and dominated by trans women in trans spaces makes me feel insane.
They’re really a special kind of case study in what the human mind and spirit is capable of (negative). Total mental and spiritual colonization - fascinating
Feminism handed you the tools to describe your sex based oppression so you can be conscious and transcend. You convinced yourself that sex is irrelevant. You literally intentionally threw away the tools. And now you willingly sit grasping in the dark to describe what you’re experiencing. Interesting