Lily Orchard's Owl House Takes Are Garbage and Here's Why

Shows Hunter digging his own grave

"Criticize".

Lily you fantasized about murdering Hunter from Owl House just because you didnt liked him.

And said that N from pokemon deserved all psichological abuse he suffered from Ghetsis.

Also lets not forget when in your older account you literally advocated to someone not help their friend in Need.

Honey.

Sweety.

You openly said that Hunter should’ve realized that he had been abused. One of your main criticisms of him is that he didn’t break from Belos fast enough even though it was by his fifth appearance that he did.

Oh you meant goodest boy unironically gotcha

God damn girl, well at least we know

Dictator <bad than< a single cop

*not my art; made by a Discord user by the name of Little Tall Mermaid, but appreciated nonetheless!

Oh you meant goodest boy unironically gotcha

God damn girl, well at least we know

Dictator <bad than< a single cop

*not my art; made by a Discord user by the name of Little Tall Mermaid, but appreciated nonetheless!

I'm positive that whenever Hunter was on screen, Lily would just hit the skip button.

I find Lily’s hatred of hunter fascinated cause it proves that her level of care can only go so far.

Hunter is an extremely abused child who was separated from the rest of the world before he met Luz he didn't have any friends. Every time he showed interest in wild magic, belos glared and growled till he stopped talking. Not to mention that if belos's plan had worked out, Hunter was going to be killed by the only person he called family.

Hunter had no one to go to. None of the coven heads liked him. He didn't go to school. All he had was flapjack.

Hunter is the equivalent of an abused child who's homeschooled and whose only companion is their pet cat they hide or the abuser will harm the pet. anyone who had been in that situation will know what it's like to have no one.

Lily's Video on Character Potential

So, after her introduction and blaming fan's reactions to character potential on theory videos (without providing evidence that is something that is happening with Hunter,) she gives us her own theory. Which is that people like Hunter for what his character could be, not what his character actually is. Then she says she doesn't like him because he has no purpose in the story.

Okay, that's an opinion. I disagree, but it is stated as more of an opinion than in later videos. She also takes the time to let us know through onscreen text that he is rendered in "every color of the urine spectrum." Lily, we know you hate white blond dudes, no need to diss the color yellow like that.

Culling through the nonsense, her basic premise is that Hunter doesn't do anything in the story and is merely stapled onto other characters. I could point out all the times he does effect the story, but let's just argue the "stapled" thing. Because I think I have a good counter for that, as him being paired with the other characters is where I started to like him and understand him as a character.

Hunter isn't stapled to other characters. Hunter is a mirror into other characters. He has Luz's interest in wild magic and inability to cast spells like other witches. He has been called a half-witch like Willow and shares her insecurity about not being as skilled as others. He is a prodigy like Gus and has the same pressures and anxiety. And he shares the same kind of abusive upbringing as Amity.

Lily claims that everyone gets overshadowed by Hunter in their shared episodes, save Amity. This happens, she says, because of white favoritism; something she has accused the show of doing before. Even if I don't feel he overshadowed anyone in any of the episodes he shares, I can offer a much better explanation for why Amity stands out more in Eclipse Lake.

It's her episode. She's the hero we are following this go around. Kiki and co are obstacles, the titan blood is the MacGuffin, and Eda and King are the sidekicks/comic relief. Lastly, Hunter is there to be Amity's foil; because the episode deals specifically with traits they have in common. They both come from a background where affection is a reward for success. The both feel that if they fail, they will be disappointing someone who thinks they are special.

Make no mistake, without the interference of Luz and the others, Amity would be this kid in two years.

She further says that she likes Hunter better when people other than Dana Terrace write for him. Hunter does seem to be Dana's favorite, or at least one of her favorites. We know he was one of the shows original characters when it was conceived and one Dana has said is a lot of fun for her to write. Still, I don't think the difference is because he's a creator's pet.

I think the episodes Lily is talking about are the ones when he's acting more like the Golden Guard. That the whole Golden Guard thing is a mask for his insecurities is something the show takes the time to point out to us. Look at Thanks to Them, for an example. He gets scared about going into the abandoned house to look for Belos and says that didn't happen when he was the Golden Guard. Luz gives him a Halloween mask they find and he bursts through the door with the same bravado and, indeed, the same line as he when he first confronts Luz. He doesn't take the mask off, either, until Luz calls him family and he breaks down.

The Golden Guard is not, and was never, who this kid is. This was who he had to be to survive his indoctrination. This is why, Lily, it doesn't matter if he had a "destiny" to betray Belos and why it is telling that he still couldn't leave until he committed treason. Did you not watch the episode with him and Gus? You show clips from it and it's one of the episodes you complain about. He was still having trouble convincing himself he did the right thing by leaving. That's how brain washing works.

[starts trying to get better at drawing Owl House fanart]

Also..."had." Past tense. All Hunter *had* in the past was Belos. Until he joined Luz and the rest of the gang. Having a support system is new to him.

It might be my biggest project like this.

Throughout the ENTIRE video, Lily repeatedly mischaracterizes The Legend of Korra, The Owl House, and She-Ra as all being literal “torture p*rn,” even going as far as to include a literal content warning for “abuse/torture of women of color” and “fetishized violence." Essentially Lily is arguing that those 3 shows and cartoon fandoms in general completely revel in “torturing dark-skinned girls until they break from the stress”… yes, seriously…

In regards to The Legend of Korra, Lily specifically describes the scene of Zaheer and the Red Lotus poisoning Korra as “gory” even though there is literally ZERO blood, while also describing the writers as having “sadistic glee” while creating these scenes. Essentially, Lily accused the poisoning scene from Korra’s Season 3 finale, along with Korra still being significantly weakened by the poison during her final battle with Zaheer (causing her to fall and tumble down cliff-sides), Zaheer using his air-bending to try suck the oxygen directly out of Korra’s lungs (the same technique he previously used to assassinate the Earth Queen), plus the Unalaq fight from the Season 2 finale where extracts the Avatar spirit from Korra and kills all her past lives one by one with a water-whip as “white centrist writers being turned on by the trauma and torture of a woman of color,” and “torture p*rn comparable to FREAKING PASSION OF THE CHRIST” (seriously... she literally compares Korra to Mel Gibson's infamously brutal & antisemitic film)

That is unbelievably stupid! While those scenes certainly are dark and disturbing, they’re INTENTIONALLY disturbing! The viewer is SUPPOSED to be in suspense and fear over whether or not the main character will get out of situations like these alive. Additionally, it’s not unexpected for characters to undergo traumatic crap during their story arcs, and most often it’s to raise the dramatic stakes of the conflict or to have said characters eventually undergo some sort of positive change arc in response to said-trauma. Lily acts like this these scenes are simultaneously creepily fetishistic and the darkest most disturbing crap she’s ever seen, even though they’re PG-13 levels of violence at best and are narratively meant to serve as a springboard for Korra overcoming her trauma and PTSD in the final season. Lily even goes as far as to completely dismiss Korra’s trauma in Season 4, saying that instead of overcoming her trauma she just regresses back to her original status quo, which makes ZERO sense!

Moving onto The Owl House, Lily demonizes the show’s creator Dana Terrace as having an immature “fan-girl creepypasta” understanding of depression, arguing that Luz’s depression arc during both the ending of Season 2 and all of Season 3 is somehow “inappropriate” for a children’s fantasy adventure show. Lily even goes as far as to describe Luz’s depression as “vapid” and “lacking any real narrative weight,” essentially victim-blaming Luz for being reclusive and either pushing away or lying to her friends & family due to the guilt she feels from both being separated from the Demon Realm and having been tricked into accidentally helping Belos via time-travel shenanigans (and of course, Lily also blames Luz’s depression on the show’s “serialization” for ZERO reason)! 

Perhaps the most insulting comment Lily makes however, is that Lily accuses Luz’s trauma of being “unrealistic” simply because “everyone responds to trauma differently”… BULL FREAKING CRAP LILY! Just because a single individual’s response to trauma is not universal does NOT therefore automatically mean that it is inherently “unrealistic!” That is one of the most unbelieviably offensive mischaracterizations of trauma and depression that I have ever heard in my entire life, since it trivalizes and dismisses the real-life experiences of so many individuals, some of whom might have even found the portrayal of Luz’s depression authentically reminiscent of their own experiences!

Speaking as an Autistic individual who just marathoned the entirety of The Owl House, as well as someone who routinely struggles with OCD, intrusive thoughts, and anxiety, I personally found Luz’s depression arc extremely relatable due to how heavily neurodivergent-coded her character is, and loved seeing her gradually process and overcome her feelings of internalized self-loathing and anxiety!

Also, fellow Tumblr user @risingphoenix87 has made several of her own posts analyzing how Lily’s demonization of Luz’s realistic depression arc are heavily emblematic of the misogynoir “strong Black woman” stereotype, since Lily repeatedly acts as though Luz’s character is “less interesting” when she responds to trauma just like how a neurodivergent POC child would IRL.

Lily also randomly dumps more disturbing and uneccessary information about her personal history, outright stating that she immediately broke up with an ex-girlfriend while she was suffering from depression and being reclusive just like Luz was. A real scumbag move on Lily’s part there, caring only for her mental-wellbeing instead of her partner’s!

And finally in regards to She-Ra and the Princesses of Power, Lily directly accused Catradora shippers of being an example of fandom going “full mask-off” simply because she found 2 or 3 random comments underneath her videos defending Catra’s abusive behavior before her gradual redemption arc in the final season simply because they found the Adora & Catra fights “hot” (which I know for a fact does NOT represent the entirety or even majority of the She-Ra fandom & Catradora shippers). Also, Lily once again accuses all of Catra and Adora’s fights as “fetishizing abuse” while blanketly stating that ALL Catradora fans are “creepy perverts who get off on violence against women.”

Additionally, Lily insults fans who interpret Catra as having Borderline Personality Disorders, even though I’ve encountered some individuals with BPD who said that they found Catra’s struggles very relatable to their own. Lily claims that these fans are “throwing actual neurodivergent people under the bus,” which is absolutely hypocritical considering Lily’s previous ableist & victim-blamey remarks about Luz in The Owl House. Also Lily injects some misogyny by comparing Catradora shippers to “30-year-old mothers who never grew out of their Twilight phase”… classy…

And the rest of the video is just Lily promoting her crappy Sith Resurgence fan-fiction (which is an insulting attempt to “remake” the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy, which is ACTUALLY guilty of portraying Black women in a fetishistic manner through Lily’s OC Darth Amarossia. So essentially ALL of Lily’s offensive remarks against The Legend of Korra, The Owl House, and She-Ra , along with their creators and fans, were just pure projection on Lily’s part… because of course it was!