I saw your debunking posts on Barbara and meant to ask of something i heard, is it true that Barbara was the first to sexually assault Dick? I don't read golden silver bronze age comics
Hi anon!
Okay this was, at first, just supposed to be a post where I'd go like "lol no it's not here's all that happened before that *panels*" buuuut it somehow turned out in me collecting all the moments where Dick got kissed on the lips before he had a say in it. Then I added the cheek ones because why not. Then I thought "might as well add Liu, Mirage and Tarantula atp". Which got me to the thought "wait how about the woman slapping his butt or the comments about him" so yeah kinda turned into...all this you're about to read.
If I've missed some and you have more, feel free to bring it up! They won't be in order after some first characters, mainly because it makes it easier for me to make the post since I had to put lots of pictures together, otherwise it would have been more than 30 pics. But I'll include the release dates along with the sources.
(PS: Some moments, more than SA, could be considered a gray area. Like a kiss on the cheek, for example. Still, I'll include them in the list. However, this list is comics only, so things like Ivy, Starfire, Harley etc from any cartoon, movie and tv shows won't be included.)
That said;
WARNING: Mention of rape, assault, harassment and graphic content going forward!!!
1. Vera Lovely
Batman #107 (1940); released in February 24, 1957.
She's a fourteen years old ice-skater Robin saved. She rewarded him with a sudden kiss, which happens to be Robin's first kiss. He soon falls for her, but at the end of the issue they kinda break up, and that's the first and last time we'll see Vera.
2. Betty Kane
Batman #141 (1940); released in June 1, 1961.
Betty, the very first Bat-Girl. Started with a peck on the cheek and turned into a kiss on the lips. And, unfortunately... Betty will sort of be like this for the following 45 years. Not always kissing him, but she'll often make comments regarding his body, be jealous of Starfire and throws herself at him lots of times, to the point she'll just be remembered as the girl who used to bother Nightwing and has a crush on him. For more on this matter, I've made a post about it!
3. Mona, Miss USA
Detective Comics #348 (1937); released in December 23, 1965.
There isn't much context to give on this one. That's the first page of the comic and after this, Mona's plane explodes, causing her death. This goes into the "gray area" category.
4. Viola Lance
Batman #184 (1940); released in July 21, 1966.
Viola, a stunt girl Robin thought was in danger and tried to save, just to find out they were simply shooting a movie. At the end of the story he does end up actually saving her from real danger, and gets a reward kiss on the cheek (chin tbh?). Like for Vera and Mona, first and last appearance. This goes into the "gray area" category.
5. Unnamed female
Batman #188 (1940); released in October 20, 1966.
For context: Prior to this, in the story, there's a moment where in civvies, some women approaches Bruce Wayne to ask him autographs while ignoring Dick Grayson. And the same happens again even when they're Batman and Robin. Then, someone approaches a sad Robin, claiming she knew what he wanted because she's a mind reader, then throws herself at him and kisses him on the lips. I'm calling her "female" because I genuinely have no idea if this is a girl or a woman. Kid or adult? Really hope, at the very least, a kid his age.
6. Daphne Pennyworth
Batman #216 (1940); released in September 4, 1969.
Daphne is Alfred's niece. In very very short: she was threatened by the Old Avon Players to gain Bruce, Alfred and Dick's trust and Dick's affection to steal something that belonged to Dick and was in Wayne Manor. Iirc she didn't steal it because she got caught by Alfred, accidentally "shoots" him, almost stabs herself but is stopped by Dick. All ends well and she kisses his cheek in the end. This goes into the "gray area" category.
7. Barbara Gordon
Batman Family #1 (1975); released in June 5, 1975.
Context is pretty much that. This is where things won't be in chronological order anymore soon.
A little misconception I'd like to clear on this one (mind you, not defend, just clear) is that Dick is underage. Babs should be around 25 here, while Dick is already in university so he should be 18. So he's not underage BUT he's still a teenager.
Batgirl #15 (2016); released in September 27, 2017.
I actually discussed this one out with a friend because I had a few doubts. We kinda considered it another gray area because Dick did sorta "revoked consent". I might be wrong on this one though so let me know your opinions and maybe explanations in the comments or through reblogs! For now, but might get edited later on: This goes into the "gray area" category.
8. Koriand'r
The New Teen Titans #2 (1980); released in September 11, 1980.
I'm sure we all know the story of this one. Be comics, cartoons or movies. So yeah there isn't much to say on this one. She needed to learn their language and went for a kiss because it was more enjoyable that way.
Young Justice: Sins of Youth Secret Files and Origins (2000); released in March 22, 2000.
In this story, many characters were turned back into kids, one of them being Kory, hence why she's acting this way. And, when she's a teenager again, she throws herself at Dick and kisses him. Then, well... The writing on this one is just so weird?
Titans #3 (2008); released in June 11, 2008.
In this one, Kory is also a victim, actually. The Titans got back together to fight off Trigon's sons, Raven's brothers. Those sons + Raven represented the Seven Deadly Sins. At first, the team met only three of them: Jared (Wrath), Jesse (Envy) and lastly Jacob (Lust). They were all affected by each of these three, making them fight among each other... Except for Dick and Kory, who were affected by lust, and ended up doing it under said influence.
New Titans #33 (2026); released in March 18, 2026.
Kory's a victim here too! The Titans (or well, technically just Nightwing, Starfire and Terra) were stuck in a loop of old tales that happened, old villains they fought and all the relationship drama there have been. What kept them stuck in that loop was the coffee they drank each day. While still stuck in same loop, Dick and Kory shared a kiss, and it could be implied that more happened (I personally doubt and genuinely hope not, but I guess it might be up to readers?). When they stopped drinking the coffee and got out of the loop, Dick immediately blamed himself, Kory told him it wasn't just his fault. So they both felt bad and blamed themselves over that, even if Victor tried to tell them it wasn't their fault.
9. Dala
Batman #349 (1940); released in March 23, 1982.
Dala was this woman (vampire) he met at the university and started having a crush on. They start seeing each other, go at one event together, then she starts ignoring him and leaves with another guy... All to lure Dick into following her at her place and kinda kidnap him. And that happened.
10. Raven
The New Teen Titans #37 (1984); released in August 18, 1987.
The New Teen Titans #39 (1984); released in September 29, 1987.
So Raven, at some point, allowed herself to feel emotions and felt some love for Dick. But well, she accidentally used her powers to make him fall in love with her and feel the same too. So in #37 they kissed under the influence of her powers, in #39 she'll invade his dreams. At the end, Kory and Raven talks this out tho and all's good! Still, I'd say Raven is also kind of a victim of herself? All that happened was accidental, she was struggling with her powers and all, so.
11. Miriam Delgado
The New Titans #88 (1988); released in June 4, 1992.
Team Titans #2 (1992); released in August 25, 1992.
I'm sure almost everyone here has heard of Mirage. She disguised herself as Starfire, kissed Nightwing and later on it's revealed that they slept together without Dick being aware of her not actually being Kory. And his supportive friends and teammates-! Slut-shamed him and/or didn't take his side. It was something I guess...
12. Helena Bettinelli
Nightwing/Huntress #1 (1998); released in March 25, 1998.
Nightwing #39 (1996); released in November 24, 1999.
Batman #693 (1940); November 11, 2009.
Grayson #7 (2014); released in February 4, 2015.
For the first one, well, I don't have much to say again. She just suddenly kiss him mid conversation while they were working together.
For the second one, they had already kinda agreed to broke up previously... It's possible that she kissed him simply to make Barbara jealous though.
In the third one, she mainly did that to avoid getting caught, as they were undercover together. But well, still a probably unwanted and sudden kiss;;
In the fourth one, it's a moment where her hypnos fails to protect her from a psychic attack, which makes her violent. Dick takes her far from other people, where the psychic influence weakens because she was far from the Paragon's brain. Anyways they have a little talk and she kisses him, "clearing her head".
13. Fay Moffit
Joker: Last Laugh #2 (2001); released in October 10, 2001.
In last laugh, while locked in the slab, Joker finds out he's got a brain tumor. So before dying he decides to make quite the chaos, and make other supervillains insane with his Joker Venom. Lady Spellbinder being one of them, who disguises herself as Wonder Woman and kisses Nightwing.
14. Wily Wendi
Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #153 (1989); released in March 6, 2002.
Wendi is a pickpocket Dick, as Robin, was chasing one night after sneaking out, still kinda overwhelmed by the whole situation he was in (since this takes 2 months after his parents died and Bruce took him in). In #149, she flirts a little, almost goes in for a kiss, but stops and jumps back, suddenly leaving. After their first encounter, Dick can't stop thinking about her and, during a rainy night, goes out looking for her. She brings him to a place called Dreamland, owned by an old lady called Mother Grimm. He stays a bit, has fun around with Wendi, and is soon sent back home.
He has a fight with Bruce after having snuck out for the second time and lied about where he's been. Turns out Wendi had followed him and they go back to Dreamland again. Bruce also followed him, to get him back, but Dick decided to stay in Dreamland. So Bruce gets "sent away"... Well he's actually locked underground, while Dick is having fun with Wendi and the others. Him and Wendi almost have a little moment, but Mother Grimm interrupts them. Then Dick finds Bruce, finds out what kind of place that was, tries to leave with Batman, Wendi and the others, Mother Grimm blows the place up... In the middle of the chaos, as Dick saves some of the kids and Wendi, Wendi kisses him in issue #153. His first kiss canonically I suppose? Not chronologically! Like before, this is just a very "little" summ up. It's actually a very nice lil story, starts from #149 and ends in #153.
15. Catalina Flores
Nightwing #87 (1996); released in November 12, 2003.
Nightwing #93 (1996); released in May 12, 2004.
Aah, the second Tarantula. A former FBI agent who turned into a vigilante in Blüdhaven. At first he does try to... Get her to be good? Sorry I'm bad at explanations lol. Anyways doing anything but attempting people's lives. She doesn't really cooperate. Then turns out she was hired by Blockbuster. This was a very mini and incomplete explanation of the general context, but I'm sure there are many posts explaining this arc if anyone wants to learn more but can't get the comic! Anyways... So... In #87, Tarantula attacks Dick and Barbara while they're on a date. And mid fight, she kissed him on the lips. Iirc, she did that to make them break up. It worked.
In #93, Tarantula kills Blockbuster. Dick has a breakdown over that, because he didn't stop her from doing so. And she took advantage of him during said breakdown... Things don't exactly stop there though. Later on she decides to run off with him, he's... Kinda out of it the whole time though. She also tried to marry him at some point, but he snaps out of it in time before signing the papers.
16. Kara Danvers
Supergirl #3 (2005); released in November 16, 2005.
Justice League of America #52 (2006); released in December 22, 2010.
In the first one... So that's a teenager Kara with this big crush on Dick Grayson, where she takes any kind of note on him, uses her x-ray to look underneath his suit and then kisses him before leaving...
The second one is Kara under the influence of Omega Man, who turned her into Dark Supergirl again.
17. Liu
Nightwing #135 (1996); released in August 1, 2007.
This is Liu, partner of this criminal Metal Eddie Hwang, who wanted to gain metahuman power. He was a martial arts teacher and spiritual guide who would help addicts and lost souls (also place where he would recruit people and turn them into vandals — the crimes from small acts of vandalism gets worse later on though). And he was also the leader of the 21 tigers, masked enforcers he trained.
Dick, when he was sixteen, left Wayne Manor and started working to get the money for a place to stay in. A co-worker introduced him to Eddie. Eddie made him and others commit the small acts of vandalism, that slowly became bigger stuff, and to distract him Liu — grown woman — decided to sleep with the sixteen years old... Ah and of course all that because her and Eddie wanted to get to Bruce Wayne and Wayne Enterprises through Dick. Also I think she might have slept with him multiple times? I'm unsure about that tho so I can't confirm.
18. Danielle
Nightwing #23 (2011); released in August 14, 2013.
Simply a woman he saved that decided to kiss him as a thanks.
19. Students from the St. Hadrian's Finishing School for Girls
Grayson #4 (2014); released in November 5, 2014.
Grayson #8 (2014); released in March 4, 2015.
In Grayson, undercover as a spy, Dick ends up being a teacher in a school of girls. Girls who'll take pics of him shirtless and make comments about his ass... Ever heard of Jim and Juan? Yeah that's how they named his ass cheeks I guess...
20. Dr Elisabeth Netz
Grayson #13 (2014); released in October 28, 2015.
Elisabeth Netz was a member of Spyral, the organization Dick went undercover in. She was the scientist and "doctor" for the agents. And well, this is a little "examination" that is quite questionable... With her making comments and staring way too much.
21. John Constantine
Grayson Annual #3; released in June 29, 2016.
Just Constantine commenting his butt, and vampires a little too touchy maybe?
22. Harley Quinn
Grayson Annual #3; released in June 29, 2016.
Harley was undercover at a party, of course there to get something. At some point she notices Dick, who's face was a spiral because of his mask. She gets to the conclusion that he was there for the same reason as her, and because of the high security, they end up working together. They find some of Joker's gas, which Dick clearly doesn't want her to get. So she kisses him to distract him and leave with the gas.
23. Jaqueline Hale
Nightwing Annual #3 (2016); released in June 16, 2020.
Hale is the founder and owner of the Condors. So in very short, Nightwing gets poisoned, Red Condor brings him to their compound to help him. Hale wants him to join them, he refuses, and as she tries to convince him she gets... A little touchy. While I didn't include the panel, before this one she also placed her hand on his abs, and kinda leaned in a little? Then there's the butt slap, which he didn't seem to have appreciated.
This is pretty much the end of it.
It's really crazy the amount of times characters just throw themselves on his lips, harass or rape him. Mind you, all this counting that:
1. I could be forgetting some moments.
2. I didn't even include small touches or comments on his body. Things that happens often.
The comments, for example. We have Constantine, Bette, Stephanie, Tara, Toni, Midnighter, random women and many others making comments on his body. If I were to try gathering all those moments, I'd go crazy.
Oh I had something else. A little bonus of the times it was Dick who kissed someone without notice.
Titans United: Bloodpact #3
Batgirl: Year One
Batgirl #17 (2016)
To finally answe Anon's question: "Is it true that Barbara was the first to sexually assault Dick?"
The answer is, no. She was not. Chronologically, at least three women — one of them possibly an adult — kissed him before he could say anything about it before Barbara did. And canonically, I think the first one was Wily Wendi. If it wasn't retconned, that said.
But is it really important, who did it first? Does it invalidate whatever came after? What's the importance in who did it first? Aside it not being true, that's not an excuse for everything else or something actually important. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but going like "well she sexually assaulted him first way before the others did!" is... A little weird?
Anyways... This was probably an overly analysation? I will admit that some moments might be, especially the kisses on the cheeks, but I've included them anyways. If they are, just ignore them! I was also conflicted on the Wily Wendi one, for example, but hey she did went for his lips before he could say anything... Also at first I was wondering if I should have included the moment between him and Donna from Titans Annual #1 (2025)... Although he did kinda offered first? But he was taken aback after. In the end, I didn't include it, too conflicted and... Ran out of space;;;
I apologize to the anon who had to wait a lifetime for this reply, but gathering panels, sources and release dates took some time, them making the post, and some stuff came up so I didn't had much time... But here it is!
Oh, and for who's interested in a second bonus... Here's another shorter post.
