i don't mind when people draw atla characters with more asian-like features so long as they still resemble their canon counterparts more or less, but to also erase important characteristics like eye or hair color to the point where they become unrecognizable is pretty stupid imo. they don't bat an eye at things like people shooting fire out of their hands or ridiculous animal hybrids but characters with an eye color reflecting their nation's element is somehow "unrealistic" and "racist" now
Yeah I agree. I also donāt mind when artists draw the characters with more Asian features, but youāre right that sometimes they are drawn in a way that is unrecognizable. Iāve legit seen people complain about Katara and Sokka having blue eyes because thatās āeurocentricā. Guess what, Katara and Sokka do have blue eyes! Itās a cartoon. The Water Tribe isnāt real. None of the nations are real. People canāt really shoot fire out of their hands.
I believe that artists should be allowed to take creative liberties with their art, and if that means drawing the characters with more Asian-like features then thatās great! On the flip side, artists should not be criticized if they want to draw the characters with large eyes, blue eyes, sharp faces, etc. Artists should not be harassed for expressing themselves. Iāve seen artists get anon hate and threats for drawing the characters ātoo whiteā when they literally used a color dropper and used the same palette from the cartoon.
yes the characters arenāt real but a lot of us in fandom are real asian and indigenous folks who think atla being a pan-asian world is important. the fandom has a long history of drawing the characters with Eurocentric features like slim noses and sharper angles. again, TLOK did this too. and thatās...racist. i donāt think artists should be harassed, but people have a right to express discomfort when fanartists choose to emphasize the blue eyes and give them sharp noses and lighter skin. this is something that has a long precedent in not just this fandom but many others.
also, giving asian people and people of color magical eye colors in order to make them more palatable to a white audience is a long standing issue in this kind of media. see: memoirs of a geisha and the protagonist being the only woman with mysterious blue eyes. i personally understand why they chose the varied eye colors for atla and it works for the visual storytelling, but it has led to white fans trying to erase the cultural and racial elements the show is based in. these characters exist in a pan asian world and are themselves pan asian. what exactly is an artist trying to express by giving characters features/highlighting features that only a minority of asian people possess, but define the majority of white European people? š¤
Hi! Iām a real Asian in the fandom. How is TLOK racist? Just like in ATLA, there are no white people in TLOK. The characters are still inspired by Asian cultures. Cartoons and anime are allowed to be creative with artistic style. Anime, which is typically created by Asians for Asians, generally consists of characters with unrealistically huge eyes of all different colors, and with magical hair colors as well. Again, all the characters are fictional. The Avatar world is fictional.
ābut people have a right to express discomfort when fanartists choose to emphasize the blue eyesā - except that a lot of the characters do have blue eyes. Thatās just canon.
If the āmagicalā eye colors of fictional characters are so upsetting, then maybe consume different media. Consume media written by POC for POC. I remember when Avatar came out and it was celebrated for creating this world where there were no white people. It was one of the first universes to do this. But now in the SJW era where everyone is suddenly so woke, suddenly Avatar is racist?š¤
thereās lots of reasons TLOK is racist actually, this article is a good place to start: https://medium.com/@nettlefish/the-inescapable-whiteness-of-avatar-the-legend-of-korra-and-its-uncomfortable-implications-debc76bbf7f
āWhy is Aang now the Statue of Liberty? Is this show set in New York now?ā
but since this is about atla, let me clarify: i wholeheartedly LOVE this show. have loved it for years. i agree with you that it was and remains groundbreaking in many ways. i even said i donāt personally take issue with the magical eye colors (though i understand why some people might.) my issue is with how this fandom has had a long nasty habit of overemphasizing - not just depicting, but OVERLY emphasizing - blue eyes and lighter skin and producing fanworks that are deliberately ignorant of cultural context. and this trend is racist, and alienating to many fans of color. you might personally be fine with these fandom trends, but many of us arenāt, and thereās a long history of fandoms for various shows but especially for Atla trying to whiten the characters. the hated live action movie cast all white actors in every role except...the evil fire nation. that was a deliberate and racist casting choice even though an indian director was at the helm. to repeat again- i LOVE atla and i disagree with 99% of the newer criticisms about the show being racist. but in this one arena, the fandom is all too eager to use the magical eye colors as a way to not understand these characters as also asian. does Harry Potter stop being white and british because he has magic powers? you canāt divorce race from media especially visual media.
finally, āwokeā is actually a term with deep ties to radical black organizing and to use it perjoragively as many people do online is a form of anti-blackness. itās not a bad thing actually to be aware of how race and culture shapes both media and fandom. and ābeing wokeā isnāt something we should use as an insult without knowing its history.
I read the article, and while some good points are made and the article is well-written, I think itās a bit of a stretch. The author failed to mention that the art design of Republic City was described as "if Manhattan had happened in Asia," leaving out the important part (in Asia) to strengthen their argument. TLOK is more of a fusion of Asian cultures with American and European elements. The Asian-ness is not erased. As I said before, the characters are still all inspired by Asian cultures. No one is white. All the martial arts are derived from different distinct styles of Chinese martial arts. Chinese martial arts instructor Sifu Kisu was a consultant for the TLOK fight scenes. All the text that appears in the universe is written in traditional Chinese characters. And letās not forget, American influence does not equal āwhitenessā.
I donāt understand how artwork can āover emphasizeā the blue eyes of characters who canonically have blue eyes. Are they making them more blue somehow? Is there text saying āLook at my pretty blue eyes!ā? I donāt get it. Bringing the Avatar movie into the equation is not helpful. The fans, including myself, do not recognize this movie. There is no movie in Ba Sing Se. āthe fandom is all too eager to use the magical eye colors as a way to not understand these characters as also asianā - I completely disagree with this. Anime is a popular genre in Asian countries and the characters commonly have magical eye color and hair color, yet these characters are still seen as Asian. Who in the Avatar fandom is saying that the characters are white? The only argument Iāve seen in that regard are people saying the Fire Nation is white, and this is due to racism on their part since they want to equate whiteness with oppression. Your Harry Potter example is not a good one because while the story may be fictional and Hogwarts does not exist, Harry Potter still takes place in 1990s Britain, a real place and time. The Avatar universe is completely fabricated.
When I use the term āwokeā, I mean Tumblr woke, not real woke as the definition is intended. Of course itās not a bad thing to be aware of the social injustices of the world. I just believe people are taking out their frustrations on fictional cartoons rather than focusing on real world issues that should bother them more. And itās turning away a lot of the fanbase.



















