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fave ilya looks in S1 (15/x): i-ly-aaa!!!
Yuna getting the Perfect Mom treatment is almost harder to look at than her getting framed as a tyrannical controlling momager. For me, at leastâI think this is a probably a job for the myshane myilya myyuna mydavid framing because obviously fandom is for fun, we're all peers enjoying a story and sharing that enjoyment with the world for free etc etc etc. Fandom is for the joy of it, and if you want to see Yuna navigate every twist and turn of a story with perfect grace and care, go for it.
But glossing over her flaws makes me sad. She's so well drawn and well acted and I love her so much. She is a good mom! She cares so much and she tries so hard and without a doubt, Shane is her priority. She wants him happy and healthy and winning at their favourite sport. She's also putting a lot of stress on Shane. He's captaining her favourite team and she's so invested in that, and in all aspects of his career. His excellence is her vindication. His rival is her enemy. She's trained herself to take on a really practical and dispassionate perspective of Shane-the-marketable-athlete so that she can manage him effectively, and that bleeds into situations that absolutely call for a mother instead of a manager. There are no boundaries between work time and family timeâfamily lunch with her and David will include brand communcation and strategy. She's hardheaded and used to being the spokesperson of her family, which only underlines when she can't switch off career mode and focus on the personal side of thingsâit's sufficient for today to just meet her son's boyfriend; Shane really shouldn't have to defend his two weeks off a year against going to Wimbledon for a sponsor.
They're such human flaws to have, especially in that it's obvious why they developed and why she would struggle to see them as a problem in herselfâthat detached perspective is an asset she brings to her work! Of course she's personally invested in her son's career, she raised him and fought so hard for him to have the chance and now he's one of the best there ever was! She's taken mom/manager of her son, a world class hockey player, on as part of her identity, for good and bad. That's why it's hard for Shane to push back against, and why David more or less gives things the united front treatment in front of Shane but quietly pushes back when they're alone. Parents do that all the timeâdecide it's better to back your partner up even when they're wrong rather than get into the weeds.
same picture btw (ilya version)
cat shane
I was thinking about that interview of Tierney's where he talks about his experiences as a child actor, particularly being sexualized as a teenager.
I remember seeing a comment a while back about how the show's emphasis on Shane's early career, and particularly Yuna's enhanced role in it, essentially gives him something of a child star type background too.
And it made me realize how complicated a relationship Shane would have had with sexuality before Ilya came into the picture.
This is not an anti-Yuna post, by the way. I do not for a moment think she put him in any of those really sexual ads until he was well into adulthood.
But the point I think with the discussion is that, like women in general, young people in the public eye end up viewed and treated like sexual objects through no fault of their own. When I was growing up, there was a lot of focus on the Olsen Twins: who were kids, playing kids, in very family-oriented movies and tv shows, no hint of sexuality, and adult men were having countdowns to their eighteenth birthday. We could also look at the creepy way people have behaved toward the Stranger Things boys.
Shane's nowhere near that famous, of course. But both he and Ilya are clearly well-known enough to be paired as rivals long before they ever met. And Yuna's extra focus on Shane's visibility - intended to protect him, would have put more eyes on him even as a kid.
I think what this amounts to is that, at least before Ilya and his flint of desire, sexuality would be this complicated and mostly negative element in Shane's life. It's an external imposition, by creepy adults when you happen to exist in their line of sight. As he gets older, and his attractiveness becomes more marketable, it's a performance. And of course, on a personal level, it's an obligation. It's what you do with your girlfriend, even if you have to basically dissociate through the entire thing.
And I think that's a factor in why Shane ends up drawn, so fast and so hard, to Ilya. With Ilya, there's the "flint of desire". With Ilya, sex is simple and easy in a way that everything else isn't. With Ilya, he can let him take charge, follow direction, and not have to worry about performance or obligation. He can just feel what HE feels. And it's private and personal, something only between the two of them.
With Ilya, because it's Ilya, something that has always been complicated, murky, and uncomfortable becomes a matter of simple passion and pleasure and that would have been addictive even before emotions became involved.*
(* Though honestly, I'm not sure I could pinpoint exactly when emotions became involved, and I'm pretty sure they couldn't either.)

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Young(er) David and Yuna Hollander.
Ilya lifting Shane Heated Rivalry
#he contains multitudes
I feel so protective of Shane tbh he's literally just a boy

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same picture btw
dog ilya
Its so important to remember that when Shane says "Ilya noooo, Ilya ewww, what the fuck Ilya" that this is him giggling and kicking his feet. The man is not a killjoy he just loves being chased.
How do you know you're not Asexual? Maybe you just haven't met the right nobody.
Odysseus walks up, wags his eyebrows at you, then proceeds to infodump about his beloved wife and how he can't wait to get home again.
i know this was like a month ago but jacob on the shift saying what makes connor so perfect for the role is that he was so good at playing âwhat i wanted out of ilya, which was a slyness. that ilyaâs always trying not to laugh, especially at shane. that he doesnât want shane to realise how much he likes him, and how charmed, how endlessly charmed he is by making shane uncomfortable. it actually lights him up inside, he really loves it.â
literally the mandate of heaven that jacob tierney has đđđ it lights him up inside i-
something something ilya likes to cause a hurt then soothe it.
these images are the same to me. he likes to push too hard to bruise to needle to sink his teeth in to know heâs making an impact. and then follow it up with a good fucking or to say in so many words i love you. to know he is loved enough for his impact to be felt. it lights him up inside. and god you just KNOW shane bruises up so pretty, and he looks so pretty when he cries đŽâđ¨
and by popular demand. of course shane has built up so many layers of protection in his unimpeachable skill his work ethic his diet his routine he is going through the motions like a little roomba living in a state of desperately hoping no one looks at him long enough to see anything real. heâs constantly at a remove from the world his walls are up so high. and here comes ilya who does look too long who wants to touch and push and prod and provoke, who gets a reaction out of shane every time. those carefully built up walls and he crashes through them so easily. for shane i think it has to hurt a bit to feel real đľâđŤ
I was thinking about Shane's propensity for clarifying questions and how funny they can be. (I think we've all made some cracks about "is it very upsetting" or "sick like...crazy?").
But it occurs to me that the first real clarifying question that we see him ask is not a question exactly, but it's "with Rozanov's permission" in that press conference.
Because Shane can see that Ilya's struggling. And Shane really has three options here: ignore it and let Ilya flounder on his own, use it to his own benefit, or jump in and save Ilya but possibly wound his pride in the process.
Shane is autistic. We know that. We also know that he probably does not know that. But he probably does know what it's like to have people jump in and "help" him in ways that sometimes make things look or feel worse. (As much as we love Yuna Hollander, I can't imagine that her overbearing presence made things easy for a teenaged boy on a sports team.)
So he asks. In a very practiced, almost casual way. (and more personally with the foot touch). He waits, for the acknowledgement and the nod, and only THEN takes over the question. Afterward, Ilya gets his chance to answer in a way that makes him look cool and unconcerned. He gets to keep his pride.
I feel like sometimes we blame Shane's autism for a lot of things that happen in the series, but I think this is one point where it was actually a benefit. Because Shane is used to asking questions about things that other people would take as a given. And because Shane is used to having well-meaning people "help" in ways that don't always feel like help. So Shane is able to give Ilya what he needs in this scene (and probably cement the idea that what should have been a one-night stand is definitely something worth revisiting.)

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Hi, my life's a fucking shitshow but at least I can offer you â¨crocheted hollanovâ¨
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