"some reason" :^)
Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, Fukushima If you can GUARANTEE that nothing even APPROACHING those could EVER happen under ANY circumstances Then I will fold to Nuclear Power
Coal mining releases more radiation to the biosphere than nuclear power, even taking into account nuclear accidents.
Cool So ditch coal That does not make nuclear the solution
and what are you going to replace it with? when the sun doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow?
inb4 batteries, can you spot the batteries in this graph?
that's the world's second (maybe third idk) LARGEST battery installation. it cost A$160 million. it's a fucking rounding error on a TINY grid.
I am not going to replace one resource we can’t renew, causes cancer, poisons the land and cannot be stored or recycled with another. That waste always has to come up somehow because it will outlast literally everything else.
cannot be stored
or recycled
That waste always has to come up somehow because it will outlast literally everything else.
that's not how radioactive decay works you scientifically ignorant moron. I am begging you read a single grade school level physics book.
why do you have such strong opinions about something you obviously don't have a single fucking clue about? doesn't it get embarrassing being this fucking wrong on the internet?
anyway you didn't answer the question, where are you going to get the electricity from? while electrifying EVERYTHING? or are you one of those primmies who thinks we should dismantle industrial society? then start with yourself and log the fuck off so the rest of us don't have to suffer the displeasure of interacting with you.
If I may committ the faux pas of double posting (Maybe triple, I think I got three responses) What I have learned tonight As I am learning much more often as I get older. Is that I have some reading to do And some high school level preconceptions to get rid of. I stopped learning about this at some point. And I spoke as if I hadn’t.
I didn't think I'd ever see kircheis', uh, intense way of arguing would lead anybody to rethink their position.
In any case this much open mindedness has to be commended.
Excuse me for quoting a dead meme But they had me with facts and logic. The only knowledge I’d ever had was stuff I’d gotten in school or thought I had absorbed better than I had. With nuclear towers as these smoke spewing monsters constently bubbling with glowing green ooze, barrel after barrel, day in and out But then I looked at how much nuclear waste is created for a given amount of power, compared to how much oil slicked slurry is produced for the same amount of coal. And I realized that I was staring at cold hard numbers that told me I didn’t know shit about shit. I could have dug in my heels and made myself look like some reactionary asshole with my head in the sand. Or I could take a breath, swallow my pride. And admit I was wrong on the internet. It’s a habit I’m trying to form.
@nitpickrider gets based award of the day, topic independent too, chad move.
And I realized that I was staring at cold hard numbers that told me I didn’t know shit about shit. I could have dug in my heels and made myself look like some reactionary asshole with my head in the sand. Or I could take a breath, swallow my pride. And admit I was wrong on the internet. It’s a habit I’m trying to form.
I'm a huge supporter of nuclear power because I think we need to get away from fossil fuels, and also because most renewable energies use ridiculous amounts of rare earth elements. Renewable technology will be awesome one day, but right now, usually the REEs come from China and Congo, and neither country has a good human rights track record.
When I was first studying this five years ago, I know Chinese mines were also smelting with coal (which produces similar coal pollution as just burning coal for fuel), but I know China has been very rapidly industrialized since then so I don't know if that still holds true.
Whenever you see something, remember that if you cannot grow a resource you have to mine it.
Always ask how things are mined and processed.
this is such a good quality thread, actually.
