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He left him to die. Daniel is dead now.

That whole vampirism thing that Louis has been struggling with for so long? Now Daniel is stuck with it too and despite what he claims, he’s obviously not handling it well. Louis left a man with a progressive neurological condition and no ability to defend himself in the company of a very angry vampire who had every reason to kill him. And he did.

It doesn’t matter if he warned Armand. Louis even says himself that he shouldn’t have left Daniel alone with him, but that’s probably of little comfort to Daniel. And if comments from the cast are anything to go by, it sounds like the transformation was violent.

Yeah this has never bothered me as much as it seems to bother some people. Like you said, they were unconscious or unresponsive. It's not like he asked them and they said no and he did it anyway, he couldn't ask them. They couldn't answer. And he's a doctor. His job is literally to keep people alive. Like yes vampirism is radical procedure but it's a tool he has in his medical bag (right next to the magic drugs that make you instantly pass out apparently).

Like YES there is hypocrisy there and moral and ethical issues but like THAT's vampirism! That's the point! (and again: the instant bliss of Breaking Dawn makes all the hand-wringing about the monstrosity of vampirism seem pretty overblown anyway). And sure it was selfish in the sense that he was lonely but IDK by that point he had been alone for literally centuries. He held out for a long time. And to be honest the Edward turning is the one that bothers me the least because it arguably has the closest thing to consent: parental consent. Like, sure, Elizabeth Masen didn't know exactly what she was asking for but she sure seemed to know something supernatural was afoot: what others cannot do you must do for my Edward. I really can't fault Carlisle too much for honoring a dying mother's wish.

Oh he's a hypocrite because he didn't want to be a vampire himself. Sure! But again, that's like the point of vampire stories?! You have to make moral compromises all over the place. You do things you wouldn't do under non-supernatural circumstances. The fact that he held out so long before making a companion and did so under such specific circumstances (young person on the cusp of death whose mother was begging a doctor to save his life by any means possible) and he's still worried it was the wrong thing to do is compelling to me. It's not like he's running around turning all these people and is 100% convinced he was right. He knows he might have screwed up and lives with that.

Also, and this keeps coming up, but it's only the New Moon movie that suggests he thinks they're all damned. In the books (and the extended version of that stitches scene in the movie) it's clear that Carlisle doesn't think that. He thinks, or at least hopes, they are not inherently damned to Hell for being vampires, that they still have souls, that they can "get some measure of credit for trying." Maybe if he DID believe they were inherently evil and doomed like Edward did, he wouldn't have turned anyone.

It's interesting that this guy who tries to be 'good' and stick to his morals did this. I don't think it's out of character or un-compassionate but kind of the dark side of wanting to help--sometimes the helping IS the wrong thing to do and it's better to let nature take its course. And he has learned this lesson. Presumably, as a doctor, he's encountered plenty of other dying people since 1935 and he hasn't turned any of them.

"WHY DO I HAVE TO FEEL"

#2 is Louis bidding in the auction with a response to the reddit post that reads: "I'd like to have sex one more time with my wife who passed away. My body yearms for hers. The ultimate downside of finding "the one" is she may die young and leave you wanting."