addressing sugarydeceit's claims against chaosblast โ
*cracks fingers*... heh.. okay... lets get right into it (im so tired.)
"chaos used kiwifarms as a source of information and excuses it."
nah, what happened was that chaos had been sent the kiwifarms by someone as a possible place for evidence of its other bad behavior. we were not aware of the nature of the site, nor who the creator of the thread was. we took a quick glance and pretty much concluded that the site was a shitty, 4-chan esque incel site that was vile. chaos never used the site for any of his evidence and hasn't touched it since.
now, for the dm conversation, it's lacking a bit of context. bill (chaos' headmate) had been talking to sugarydeceit for a while by the time kiwi was brought up, and it was talking in circles and trying to entrap him with very "waffles v. pancakes" type arguements. bill's reference to the kiwifarms was referring to how sugarydeceit cannot completely dismiss screenshots of its own posts as invalid evidence just because bad people are the ones who archived it. we didn't use any of the screenshots in the kiwi as evidence due to the nature of the site though, it was just bill making the right point at the wrong time.
"chaos has never addressed the kiwifarms claims to the public"
sighs. yes we have! chaos and i have actually addressed this to the public multiple times now! this would be about the third time maybe? you can see in these screenshots below we make our stance very clear on it at seperate occasions:
chaos ALSO apologized directly to sugarydeceit for simply looking at the article, and while his tone was frustrated cause it was actively blackmailing me, the apology was geniune. (this full convos and context of the blackmailing can be seen in the "blackmailing" section of the document.)
"chaos got information from its rapist"
this is not true AT ALL. my assumption is that sugarydeceit is possibly talking about the time a user chaos and i had never seen before vaguely mentioned a "victim" of sugarydeceit's. unfortunately, in a later reply in which chaos was never notified of, the person offhandedly mentioned that this "victim" was really sugarydeceit's rapist "liebe." when chaos had the reply that he hadn't seen pointed out to him, he immediately ceased any interaction with this person and it never went past this reply chain:
(notice the lack of a like + reply on the post mentioning liebe, vs the like and reply on a later reply. chaos still isn't sure of why that happened.)
other individuals who had hurt sugarydeceit / associated with liebe had also attempted to interact with us, but we were not friends and once again ceased any interaction upon hearing they have associated with the rapist. we would NEVER want to associated with disgusting people no matter how much we may hate sugarydeceit.
we have also apologized for these accidental interactions publicly in the past as well:
(this tweet was also in the context of it actively gaining the support of freakycarers, and it trying to dig up evidence of chaos' time being abused in the zcp, which i why i was so upset with it.)
i'm gonna reblog this w/ a part two. because i'm on mobile and it only allows 10 photos per post ๐ช๐ช