if you are looking for good/bad antidepressants: someone put together a weighted list of patient reviews from multiple sources (webmd, askapatient, etc) and sorted it by AD class
light blue - SSRI, dark blue - SNRI, green - TCA, orange - MAOI, grey - atypical
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important note: this is not an anti-psychiatry or anti-psychopharmocology post, and is not intended to discuss either of those subjects in general. this is about a specific case which i think is the dumbest current trend in mental health care
the use of antipsychotics as adjunct therapy, or even mono-therapy for depression (or- anything other than psychosis) is the dumbest trend in mental health care today.
background information on this: most major antidepressant patents have run out. none of the major SSRIs are patented (i think escitalopram aka lexapro was one of the last), which is why you can get your generic Celexa with a $5 GoodRX coupon at Walgreens. SNRI patents are basically out too- there’s generic duloxetine and venlafaxine available (Pfizer tried doing a badge-engineered variant called Pristiq, or desvenlafaxine - nobody bought it for whatever reason and they took a bath on it).
Emsam is still under patent (transdermal selegiline- oral selegiline for Parkinson’s has been cheap for decades) but costs $1500 a month, and nobody uses it (which is a shame, since it’s well-tolerated and lots of patients seem to like it). Viibryd/Trintellix are new, but have dubious claims (”SARIs”) to be anything different than an SSRI in different guise.
long story short: not only are antidepressant drugs not very profitable out-of-patent anymore, but the research on standard reuptake-inhibitor-class ADs has stalled. no improvements in antidepressant efficacy have been made since the 1960s. the reason SSRIs were so successful were a) they had fewer side effects than TCAs and none of the dietary restrictions of the MAOIs, and B) a lot of them came out in the 90s, when direct-to-patient marketing of medication was more or less deregulated
enter: Seroquel (or Abilify, or Zyprexa or whatever people are pushing these days). they’re all second-generation anti-psychotics. what this means is dubious, and poorly defined (other than “they came out after Clozapine”). these drugs do have something in common: they’re all extraordinarily profitable. Abilify, in particular, was the most profitable drug in the world when the patent expired in 2014- Seroquel, Zyprexa and Risperdal weren’t that far behind.
these drugs are supposedly for treating schizophrenia, which, while not rare, isn’t a particularly common condition- the reason they make so much money is uses other than schizoprhenia. Seroquel, for instance, is used on-label for
-psychosis
-major depressive disorder
-manic episodes
-insomnia
-panic and anxiety disorders
(there’s an old nurse’s maxim- if a drug has three or more indicated uses, it sucks at all of them)
all this for a drug which mechanically is effectively just a strong antihistamine and more or less just causes severe sedation, and weight gain. (other AAPs do impact transmitters other than the H1-histamine ones, but Seroquel is one of the most common AAPs given for depression adjunct or monotherapy, and happens to be very, very selective for histamine neurotransmitters)
this writeup is specifically about the use of antipsychotics in depression, though the use of them in panic disorders and other shit like Abilify for childhood autism (??????) is also concerning. why would drugs that mostly cause sedation and weight gain work in depression?
here is the Montgomery-Asberg assessment for depression, or the MADRS.
http://narr.bmap.ucla.edu/docs/MADRS.pdf
the MADRS is dogshit (actually, all “objective” assessments for depression are). The important thing to note here is several symptoms listed can be treated purely with any sedative or anti-anxiety drug without treating any core depressive symptoms, e.g. agitation, anxiety, insomnia, etc.
a meta-analysis of Seroquel in particular showed a general improvement of 5 points. not only is this not very much, but 5 points can be easily gained with any sedative, because insomnia and agitation are on the scale. it’s worth noting that weight loss and low appetite are also on the scale, and many of these drugs (H1-blockers) will cause severe weight gain, and also improve the score.
5 points is not a lot. if you suffer from severe depression, and your doctor says “you got five points better”, you’d find a new doctor. 5 points is, however, enough evidence for the FDA to approve your treatment as monotherapy for depression. i’ll leave it to you to decide if this is a good idea.
TLDR: Seroquel, and most anti-psychotic drugs, “treat” depression by making you sleepy and causing you to gain weight, because this is an effective way to “game” the scores used to assess depression, and get your very expensive drug approved to treat a very common condition.
You could almost certainly get Benadryl “approved” as an antidepressant by the FDA with this.
i’ll close with this paper, which is a good one to read:
“Atypical antipsychotic medications for the adjunctive treatment of depression are efficacious in reducing observer-rated depressive symptoms, but clinicians should interpret these findings cautiously in light of (1) the small-to-moderate-sized benefits, (2) the lack of benefit with regards to quality of life or functional impairment, and (3) the abundant evidence of potential treatment-related harm.“
“observer-rated depressive symptoms” are an euphemism for depression scores, as explained above. “lack of benefit with regards to quality of life or functional impairment” is science-speak for “yeah, nobody actually got better”. the last sentence should be self-explanatory.
thanks also to Dr. Ken Gilman, whose publishings “Atypical Psychotics and Humpty-Dumpty” and “The Miracle of Seroquel” are incredible reading.
if you are an eligible voter in the US this coming election and bernie sanders does not have the democratic nomination
you. have. to. vote. for. hillary.
i am not fucking messing around
i am not gonna sit here while you write in names or go on some fucking strike. hillary is not on the same level as donald trump. all of you who act like that’s a hard choice are ridiculous. you vote for hillary clinton if she gets the primary. if you don’t, you give trump the presidency. clear and simple. normally i would not advocate against writing in names, but at this point writing in names would take away from hillary’s vote if she is the nominee–EVEN IF YOU WRITE IN BERNIE SANDERS, YOU GIVE TRUMP A HIGHER CHANCE AT THE PRESIDENCY, AND YOU DON’T WANT THAT.
not even a year ago y’all were laughing about donald trump. don’t fuck this up. in no world is hillary clinton as bad as donald trump.
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After casually breaking The Masquerade in conversation with a woman he’s dating, Jerry is surprised and becomes increasingly indignant throughout the episode with how seriously his friends take the tradition, which he considers outdated and stupid. Although Kramer refuses to outright state anything, he and Newman compete to see who can make their vampiric status the most obvious, wearing full nosferatu outfits.
Elaine goes on a date with a handsome young vice president, but can’t figure out whether he’s a vampire or not. George secretly isn’t a vampire, but is repeatedly thrust into a series of dark circumstances, rising through the ranks and becoming his clan’s head vampire before he can say anything.