"Xue Yang did all that to avenge his finger" is such a funny take, like. Did you listen to his story? Did you put yourself in the shoes of his 7yo self for ANY seconds at all?
Because lets recap: He was tricked, and used, and hungry, and beaten repeatedly, and treated as worthless and disposable, all by a man fully capable of paying him for his work. He was sent alone to deliver a taunt to a dangerous man. He was seven. He accepting the beating he received without complaint, and was further beaten for asking for the payment he'd been promised. He was whipped, and knocked in front of an ox cart.
Chang Ci'an didn't AIM the cart at his finger.
Chang Ci'an deliberately knocked a seven year old orphan child to the ground in front of an ox cart and ordered the driver to drive over the child.
And the driver did.
He manage to escape with ONLY one crushed finger (and, we can assume, many less permanent injuries). Crushing injuries are incredibly serious, and even one so small can be deadly. An orphaned child can't afford decent medical care. Adult Xue Yang has a SEVERED finger, which means that at best he managed to find a doctor who would amputate it for him, and at worst he cut it off himself. At age seven. Xue Yang is INSANELY lucky to have survived to age 8 after this incident.
This is why Xiao Xingchen's suggestion that Xue Yang should have merely cut off Chang Ci'an's finger, or hand, or arm, is so upsetting to Xue Yang. Yes, the revenge he did take was abhorrent and excessive, but Xingchen totally misses the point of the story (understandable in the moment, everything is happening SO MUCH at that point).
Xue Yang, at age seven, had done nothing wrong. He was a child, he was innocent, and he didn't deserve to be treated like his life was worthless by Chang Ci'an, or the cart driver, or the message recipient, or the restaurant owner, or every observer on the street who did nothing to help. And every person who tells him it's "just a finger" further treats the very real devaluing of and threat to his life as normal and fine.
If he, any time after age 7, had been able to exact revenge by cutting off Chang Ci'an's arm, there is nothing equivalent about that revenge. A severed arm is not a crushing injury, and is less likely to produce life-long chronic pain. Chang Ci'an would have good medical care-- a doctor, medicine, pain killers. His life would not meaningfully be in danger. Chang Ci'an had family (and money) to help him with whatever tasks being one-handed made difficult. Chang Ci'an was an adult, who's already lived a life without pain and disability, and who's prospects will not be impacted. Chang Ci'an was an ADULT and therefore better able to understand what was happening and why. And beyond all of that, Chang Ci'an would DESERVE IT.
To say that Xue Yang did everything he did to the Chang Clan in revenge over "losing his finger" is to betray an utter lack of willingness to empathize with Xue Yang. Even the 7yo version of him.
And he knows it. Which is why the suggestion is so upsetting.
@frost-flower-fractured-ice covering the basics
oh @ahavaas you absolutely cannot leave "Orphan Mangler 3000" in the tags
You're also touching on a point I want to dig into more at some point, which is: while killing the entire Chang Clan was obviously excessive and horrific, there is a logic to it beyond just "I was hurt so I will hurt others". The clan he killed were the people who, by nature of being part of Chang Ci'an's clan, supported his power.
"Everyone in town passively or actively supported Orphan Mangler 3000" is such a hilarious and accurate assessment of Xue Yang's takeaway from this event. Every person surrounding Chang Ci'an who did not oppose him therefore supported him. Everyone who did not denounce him condoned his behavior. Everyone who did nothing was complicit.
And when Xue Yang was old enough and powerful enough to take revenge, Chang Ci'an was already dead, so Xue Yang's revenge was redirected to every complicit member of the clan who gave Chang Ci'an the power to do what he did.
Add to this the fact that Xue Yang had been working on the Tiger Tally (THE powerful artifact of demonic cultivation, known for warping people's minds towards violence and murder), and had been employed by the Jin clan to wipe out smaller clans who annoyed Jin Guangshan (normalizing this horrifying behavior to his teenage mind), and is it ANY wonder he did what he did?
like they say, the purpose of a system is what it does, chang ci'an
Culpability for the Chang clan is such a touchy fandom point because the narrative gives you a character who says "yes they were culpable" and that character is a spree killer who decided that "failing to act to stop the Orphan Mangler" was a crime that deserved the death sentence.
so you have to do a lot of "just because he identifies a problem doesn't mean I agree with his solutions to said problem" throat clearing.
but like. it is a problem! a society-wide problem! that people in these clans and sects value the safety and security offered so much that they will tolerate some pretty awful behavior from the men leading them!
1100%. Also (post here):
Like. Of course I, with modern irl morality and sense of justice, think killing a whole clan for their dead leader's horrible actions is fucked up and wrong. But the people in his own society DON'T feel that way consistently. They, in their own time with their own world's version of justice, accept that this is a regrettable but normal way of handling the situation IF the wronged party is a member or the gentry.
Which means that Xue Yang's crime (with relation to the Chang Clan specifically), within his own setting, was valuing himself "above his station"




















