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Hey normal-creature, just think: somewhere out there, Andy Weir is staring at Tumblr utterly bewildered, seeing people post about how much they love Eva Stratt, how Grace is peak aroace rep, or drawing the horniest Grockdrian fanart/writing the horniest Grockdrian fic. He has no fucking idea how this happened.
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA IT MAKES ME SO HAPPYYYYYYYY >:3333333333 GET FUCKED YOUR CHARACTERS ARE GAY AND THE WOMAN IS LOVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also, can we talk about the truly incredible lack of self-awareness andy weir seems to be displaying? Here's some interpretations of aspects of his writing off the top of my head. Not explained in detail because if you've read the book you can see where I'm coming from just fine.
Grace is single = weir is disillusioned with dating
Stratt betrays Grace = women are not good enough for weir and have dissapointed him and he doesn't trust them
Grace meets an alien in space who understands him in a way no-one else ever has, and who has an instinctive imperative to watch over him while he sleeps, and who has a massive amount of obligation to protect and care for Grace due to their situation = weir longs for platonic physical affection and closeness, and to be understood and loved for who he is. but he can see no way in which this is possible to achieve on earth with human beings, because, as previously mentioned, all women betray him, and men aren't allowed to cuddle or be close to each other. rocky is safe for his author insert to get deeply platonically close to because he isn't a woman or a man, and sex is completely off the table. also, people never seem to particularly like him, so he longs for a crisis situation in which they are forced to be in his proximity long enough to see what a nice guy he really is
Grace has to change his mind about returning to earth, and although grace isn't portrayed as happy about this, the text itself portrays this as an unambiguously good thing, where Grace goes on to live a life in a new place where he is fully apprieciated = weir doesnt feel like he fits in with humanity, is largely pessimistic about humankind as a whole, and wants to be free of them because they dont treat him as special in the way he thinks he deserves
Let's be honest here, the book holds up so well because, unlike the martian, which i hate, grace doesnt spend a lot of time interacting with other human beings. I think that if he did, the incel-y undertones of this book would become much more prevalent. If there is such a thing as an incel who is also an asexual-in-denial, it's Andy Weir.
GUYS GUYS GUYS IM WATCHING THE MAKING OF PROJECT HAIL MARY AND ONE OF THE PEOPLE COMMENTING ON THE PROCESS JUST SAID "Project Hail Mary is answering the question.... can adult men make friends if the universe is depending on it" THATS FUCKING INSANE AND HILARIOUS THAT THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THE SELF-IMPOSED MALE ISOLATION ELEMENTS DIRECTLY IN AN OFFICIAL INTERVEIW. IM GOING TO FUCKING DIE
URL to timestamp for those who wish to see for themselves: https://youtu.be/EeUyot032b0?t=196
Elaborating more on why I find this so striking: so we all know that Weir kind of sucks. And I think most of us are aware that the PHM novel was intended as Weir's self-insert story, about a man who is tragically misunderstood and betrayed by an Earth which doesn't value him, and makes an idealised male friendship among the stars and leaves Earth forever. And how, due to Weir's complete lack of self-awareness, the story instead becomes the story of a man who is chronically unable to recognise when people value him, and deliberately self-isolates and shields himself from his own lonliness with logic. I think we all know this.
But building on this, the two directors of the PHM movie saw this read, prioritised it over Weir's intended read as both more accurate and more compelling, and built the movie around that read as a basis. Particularly striking to me is a moment from an interveiw about the movie's score. One of the directors says that, intially, they tried ominous and scary music to accompany Grace waking up on the ship, but it didn't feel right. So they instead alighted on a piece of music that said, in the director's words: "Poor thing. He's going to be alright. He just doesn't know it yet."
This quote is hugely important to me, because it underpins the dialogue between the book and the movie, and can almost be interpreted as a direct dialogue between Weir and the directors. Weir writes a book that says: here is the world. It rejects me, and I don't feel valued. I deserve better than this, and instead of examining why, I choose to externalise the blame. And the director, another man, but one with a more healthy mindset, looks at this worldveiw that Weir has presented to him and says "poor thing. you're going to be alright."
So this is why saying "Project Hail Mary is answering the questionā¦. can adult men make friends if the universe is depending on it" is funny to me: because it's acknowledging that dialogue between them in a very explicit way that leaves little room for interpretation. It's acknowledging that this is about adult men having issues with making friends and forging emotional connections, due to their own self-imposed limitations, and thereby also acknowledging that Weir has these limitations. It's very bold. And the funniest thing is, for it to have made it into the cut, it must've flown completely over Weir's head.
#he wants to have his cake and eat it too. ie grace has to be the Specialist Guy who couldve revolutionized his field or w/e. but he has to#appear sympathetic & relatsble to the reader so he cant think of himself that way. so what happens is you get a character who is seemingly#deliberately obtuse & even disinterested about the people and events unfolding around him. because you have to resolve that tension somehow.#and what happened with the adaptation is. like you say. they honed in on that emotional dissonance and that tension and correctly#identified it as the emotional core of grace as a character. and extrapolated from that a version of the character as seen through EXTERNAL#narration rather than the very narrow view we get through the internal focalisation in the book.#and while weir crafted a compelling story overall. the creatives involved with the movie are MUCH more aware of its emotional arc and what#makes grace compelling in the first place. which IS his distorted self-image and social alienation. they took the ugly guts of the book and#spelled them out in bright neon colors. this is a LONELY loser who desperately longs for yet cannot allow himself human connection. lets#put him on a space ship and make the fate of two whole worlds depend on his ability to form a special bond with a rock spider.#INSTANT BOX OFFICE HIT.
YES YES YEAH EXACTLY
Taking it as canon that they've explored each other's bodies

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Okay. So.
Film Graceās characterization is (among other things) fearful and avoidant. His first impulse when faced with any unfamiliar or threatening scenario is try to run away. Tried initially to run from Stratt (and dithered when he finally did ask to join the science mission), tried to run from the room of Important People, tried to run from Rockyās spaceship, obviously tried to run from the mission ā anything that man could run from, he tried to run from. Now when he couldnāt run he absolutely did rise to the challenge with extraordinary courage and capability, but the characterization of āfirst impulse = flightā is pretty consistent.
Canon Grace is a different ball of wax. Heās the one constantly mouthing off to Stratt, the one who demanded to be let onto the science mission when she was going to take him off it, the one who so far as I can see feels no qualms about rubbing shoulders with all these foreign dignitaries, the one who had no reservations about meeting an alien. All of which could coalesce into an equally well-rounded and compelling character if Weird Andy had even slightly more deft a hand at characterization!
But any which way ā when Canon Stratt calls Canon Grace a coward, when he calls himself a coward, I think the narrative as presented to us by Andy Weir wants us to see that as untrue and unjust. All the things Canon Stratt names in evidence of Canon Graceās supposed cowardice ā leaving the prestige of academia and becoming a school teacher, not having a het relationship ā can easily be read as failing to perform a certain kind of masculinity. Aside from that, all that Canon Grace has been in this novel is a Confident Masculine Self Assured Badass who Donāt Bow Down To No Woman (even if she is his actual boss) and is Wholly Vindicated By The Narrative.
Thatās my read of the situation, anyway.
(leaving aside for a moment that I think both the book and the movie can be considered equally canon, I don't think one has superior canonitity over the other) YES, exactly. That's why I made a post a while ago about the PHM novel being intended as a men's rights thinkpiece (though obviously failed due to the accidental queer elements and Weir's sheer and staggering lack of self awareness).
book!Grace is, essentially, punished for not "serving women". He doesn't perform well in heterosexual relationships, and doesn't kowtow to Stratt (or show her much respect at all), and he doesn't have a prestigeous career. He is failing at what the patriarchy tells men they have to do in order to perform their gender successfully, ie providing wealth, prestige and sex to women, while also coddling them and attending to their every need, and so he is punished and launched into space by a woman, the ultimate metaphor for rejection from society.
It's an incredibly fascinating bit of insight into how men who get sucked into the manosphere veiw the world. Weir and men like him think that if they fail in these ways, they will get punished and penalised and rejected, and it's just - not true! The only people who punish men for not performing the "alpha male provider" role correctly are other men who have also fallen for this brainwashing, plus a few women who never unlearnt the patriarchal values they were raised into.
As irritating as the novel is, I do think it's a genuinely useful resource for feminists who want to understand how the patricarchy affects the way men interact with society. I've gained a greater understanding of some behaviours that seemed totally irrational to me through reading it.
Oh my god, you know what this is? Itās the woman-rejecting version of an old fashioned erotica novel. Protagonist is a humble sympathetic Gary Stu who also just so happens to be the most special boy in the world. His field unjustly persecutes him for standing valiantly by his scientific writing, but then who gets to show them by becoming the most important astrophage expert in the world? He would never of his own volition ditch humanity for a cool life somewhere else with a cool new species, but oh! He is forced by Circumstance to leave Earth behind and become the most special creature on a foreign planet. That closeness to another being that most any human wants but he wonāt express because heās a Rational Masculine Badass? Well, look how the Circumstances force him into close quarters with a friendly bossy alien for months! Safely platonic without being accused of āgaynessā because Rocky isnāt a human woman or man! And heās being Forced like the martyr that he is, so he doesnāt have to look like someone who Wanted It!
Thereās a climate denialism and White Manās Burden angle to this novel too.
Like, for the climate version of it, imagine a situation where greenhouse emissions are actually something we need MORE of, and ecological destruction is something we need to actually accelerate? What if circumstances absolutely FORCED us to do exactly the opposite of what climatologists are asking for? Also climatologists donāt answer basic questions and they disagree on stuff because theyāre actually just liberal snowflakes pretending to be scientists and climatology is actually just silly made up bullshit.
And oh my god, we canāt do things like pretend to honor the sovereignty of African nation states and peoples, we canāt refrain from destroying their homes by paving the fucking Sahara, thereby almost certainly killing and displacing millions of people. Black lives are simply acceptable sacrifices for the cause of saving the world, no need for them to consent to any of this! And of course we want as many white men to be involved with the actual mission as possible, not because of racism but because weāre Putting The Mission First donāt ya know. Itās just necessary, our hands are being forced by Circumstances!
Stratt. We need to talk about Weird Andyās Stratt. Yet one more aspect of this novel wanting to have its cake and eat it too. On the one hand it wants to set her up as someone scary and impressive and intimidating so that Grace looks badass and masculine when he mouths off at her. On the other hand she apparently canāt anticipate her scientist needing to pee, needs to be told what sheās actually already lade up her mind about, and gets moral lectures from Grace about ānot being a jerkā or something. It wants us to see her as a stone cold badass when she asks obtuse questions of the climatologist or wants to discriminate against women or non-whites for her already small talent pool, but also as someone heartless for making the extremely obvious decision to put her only remaining qualified scientist on the ship. The dissonance is mind-bending.
Also, Weirās Graceās internal monologue never gives us the slightest hint as to what her expression or body language or even vocal inflection is or isnāt doing, just the actual words she speaks. She raises her voice at Grace one time, and thatās it.
Not that Sandra Huller didnāt absolutely knock it out of the fucking park as Film Stratt, but to some degree the simple act of putting any human face and form on that character at all was destined to make her more dimensional. How could it not?
Finished the novel and Iām annoyed that only in like the last 10% or so of the book does the pacing actually start to kind of work in places. Like the gut punch of finding that the Taumoeba are out:
Or the moment it hits Grace that Rockyās Taumoeba will kill his ship:
Or the way Grace thinks of Rocky as he makes his decision:
And the moment Grace reunites with Rocky ā it almost works! Itās almost there!
And Iām so mad because itās like oh my god, this was almost an actual novel! And instead I let Andy put me through a gauntlet of reddit bro Well Actuallys!!

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Okay. So.
Film Graceās characterization is (among other things) fearful and avoidant. His first impulse when faced with any unfamiliar or threatening scenario is try to run away. Tried initially to run from Stratt (and dithered when he finally did ask to join the science mission), tried to run from the room of Important People, tried to run from Rockyās spaceship, obviously tried to run from the mission ā anything that man could run from, he tried to run from. Now when he couldnāt run he absolutely did rise to the challenge with extraordinary courage and capability, but the characterization of āfirst impulse = flightā is pretty consistent.
Canon Grace is a different ball of wax. Heās the one constantly mouthing off to Stratt, the one who demanded to be let onto the science mission when she was going to take him off it, the one who so far as I can see feels no qualms about rubbing shoulders with all these foreign dignitaries, the one who had no reservations about meeting an alien. All of which could coalesce into an equally well-rounded and compelling character if Weird Andy had even slightly more deft a hand at characterization!
But any which way ā when Canon Stratt calls Canon Grace a coward, when he calls himself a coward, I think the narrative as presented to us by Andy Weir wants us to see that as untrue and unjust. All the things Canon Stratt names in evidence of Canon Graceās supposed cowardice ā leaving the prestige of academia and becoming a school teacher, not having a het relationship ā can easily be read as failing to perform a certain kind of masculinity. Aside from that, all that Canon Grace has been in this novel is a Confident Masculine Self Assured Badass who Donāt Bow Down To No Woman (even if she is his actual boss) and is Wholly Vindicated By The Narrative.
Thatās my read of the situation, anyway.
Okay. I as a reader am being asked to feel some big feelings with Grace here.
But I also havenāt meaningfully bonded with either DuBois or Shapiro, and the first person narration has me firmly locked into Graceās head. All the interactions have been strictly about mission science and āoh hey weāre really obviously trying to invite you to sleep with us but youāre so dense it just keeps flying right past you.ā There has been no cameraderie built up here. How am I supposed to be feeling Graceās grief?
Rocky, with Grace about to risk his life to do a spacewalk ā Rocky, who lost a crew of twenty two entire people:
Grace, staring down imminent death:
Grace after Rocky risks his own life by busting out of the xenonite ball to save him:
Grace while trying to keep Rocky alive:
Grace after pumping Rocky with ammonia:
Rocky when finding out how Grace in turn risked himself to save his life:
No reactions, just science and mechanics. All action. Like this isnāt reading to me as these characters choosing to put their bigger emotions aside to do what they need to, it reads like neither Rocky not Grace has any big fear or worry or love or amazement-gratitude or even anger beyond some irritation.
I need to throw things at Andy https://www.tumblr.com/elrondsscribe/821040760079187968/im-going-to-commit-crimes-because-what-do-you
OHHHHHHH MY FUCKING GOD THAT PART PISSED ME OFF SOOOO BAD. sorry i saw your post before i saw your ask, so i already replied in the comments, but to reiterate for my followers:
NOT ONLY is Weir writing Stratt as wanting an all-male crew completely insane and out of character, it's also based on one outdated study with all-male participants, which Weir didn't bother to look into any further because of his own preconceived biases. Studies have shown that all-female teams tend to co-exist more easily, so if Weir had actually bothered to do his research, he would have written Stratt as wanting an all-female team.
This whole exchange between Stratt and Grace really comes across as Weir trying to set up scenarios where he can present himself/his author insert as progressive in order to avoid anticipated criticism.
sorry im always leaving comments basically just agreeing with you and restating what you're saying its just so validating to see someone else having the exact same responses i had XD
Donāt apologize!! I welcome it haha! Cuz my lord Iāve felt INSANE reading this drivel

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I know itās supposed to be a lighthearted little jokey joke, but itās accidentally true and lowkey the theme for Canon Grace as a character
Iām going to commit crimes because what do you MEAN Strattās out here trying to do naked discrimination to narrow an already tiny candidate pool for the mission?? And what do you fucking MEAN Canon Grace, Ryland fucking Grace as written by Weird Andy, is the one who gets to be all moralistically shocked at Stratt for trying to weed out anyone whom a white presumed-straight man might make problems for?? Bullshit. BULL FUCKING SHIT!
Canāt believe Iām about to up and thank some white men right now, but thank you Drew Goddard and thank you Phil Lord and Christopher Miller for cutting this bullshit! And as for Andy? Jail! Jail for a thousand years!