the highest achievements of multiple women across centuries in writing are about equal to that of men's. On the spot I can't think of any other form where this is true.
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the highest achievements of multiple women across centuries in writing are about equal to that of men's. On the spot I can't think of any other form where this is true.

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yup. camilla and charles were of course a powder keg and his jealousy was hypocritical and controlling. but before henry he was who she chose/had. she functioned and they cohabitated and met god together. she lost her brother long before the showdown, but the matter of when is entirely up for interpretation.
I also think it is extremely interesting how Camilla is over victimized. I will forever find more and more ways to become fascinated by Donna Tartt and her writing skills. Think about it, a lot of the fandom basically *is* Richard in this way. They see Camilla the way Richard does, an idolized version. Some recognize Richard as an unreliable narrator yet still pick and choose which pieces of information to be wary of. Camilla is just as guilty as the others. Of course the way she was treated by her brother was disgusting but then again… do we know the whole truth? How much can we rely on Richard and his knowledge? Especially since I think he will forever remain an outsider. Thank you for attending my TED talk
feels great to crash out in the main tags. im in the middle of reading the goldfinch. I'm this bloody close 🤏 I'm on the edge
The sky is clear. It’s warm. And I am writing to you, my dear life. 6 July 1926 Letters to Véra by Vladimir Nabokov [Illustration by Vladimir Nabokov, who was not only a novelist but also a renowned lepidopterist known for his scientific work on butterflies.]

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Henry Winter is clearly one of Donna's greatest inventions and she is proud of it. she remarks that every other character has to be ordinary so that the brilliance is believable. If you don't think his work is valuable, and you don't think his ideas about the value of human life are tolerable (which I do), you still might find him charming and intelligent and interesting because that is how he is written.
The thing about TSH which draws me in again and again. Well. The humorous parts are masterful, but they are not what I come back for. It's ok that people get different things out of it, but I think its fanciful to keep going on about Donna Tartt of all people satirising the greek class for being out of step. She is so clearly out of step herself. My hope is that fans might course correct and actually engage with the themes that are in the text - maybe you all are smarter than I am and find it too obvious. For instance, in the world of the book, it's pretty much confirmed that some trickster from an ancient religion is waiting for you to get in touch, and you can dance with God. On the last page we see this insanely beautiful vision of western culture as an afterlife. How unsatisfying to ignore all that in favour of 'the real world'.
Secret history 'fans' try not to insist that the real meaning of the book is that christian and post christian values such as 'communitay' are more important than being beautiful and clever challenge. IMPOSSIBLE EDITION
something that I don't see people talking about in support of Henry's intelligence, is that Nietzsche was clearly a model for Henry. His sickliness being the major similarity. his close relationship to a mentor. he excels in philology, but as we know that was not enough for Nietzsche, who's real interest was in philosophy. Birth of Tragedy is basically required reading for secret history fans, so I don't think its a stretch to say that Henry's philosophy is similar to this period of Nietzsche's thought.
the text almosts demands application of Nietzsche's later work too. Henry is meant to be a man wandering above a sea of fog and above humanity, he is our superman, it's no mistake he kills Bunny on a cliff. There is support for Henry being sheltered, being morally 'bad' for killing this farmer and then his close friend, and maybe even some line that hints he regrets it. There is even a very popular suggestion Bunny is an embodiment of humanity. But there is none to separate these acts from his intelligence, his genius and his philosophy.
We can't know for sure to what extent other characters were meant to share Nietzsche's qualities. For instance, Nietzsche loved hiking as Bunny did in the text. We also can't know for sure how broad Donna's Nietzsche as his work was at times contradictory. It was also life affirming, there are echos of the Eternal Return in the final passage where Richard meets Henry. The Nietzsche Podcast is where I first heard the suggestion that Julian was Dionysus, using the original title for the secret history as evidence.
Finally, we cant know that Nietzsche is the ONLY genius Henry was based on, as these basic strokes are a theme in so many of the lives of enlightenment figures, and influential writers, and even political geniuses like Hitler.
All this to say, if a character's life is modelled on the life of a genius, acts like a genius, and we are told pretty explicitly he is the most intelligent person most of the other very smart and well connected people around him had ever met. Then he must be... just plain booksmart?

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"Henry isn't actually that smart. He's just a hard worker. His specialties are so ridiculous and won't add anything to his life and you're just showing how stupid you are by saying I'm so Henry. Go touch the grass." -The girl I fell in love with at first sight yesterday.
This is what we need to understand about Henry. If you still think he's like the epitome of intelligence you need to rethink everything.
Disagree with this take in original post honestly. Agree that he's not the pinnacle. I think learning that many languages as an autodidact, along with his natural abilities at maths are meant to point us towards the fact that he is really high IQ. The passage where Julian reveals to Richard that Henry can solve any number of large equations in maths, despite Henry playing into the very opposite with the maths for the dog/human poison. This is the trick, and Richard fell for it because he would have liked to believe that someone with the raw intelligence Henry has is limited in a similar way to him. That Henry was just a precocious learner, a hard worker. Henry doesn't always have common sense, and I understand the dangers of valorising intelligence over hard work, I think to some extent we have to acknowledge different people have different starting points. And I think Bunny is a good example of this, and the tragedy of his character is that he is a manipulator who was outsmarted, but none the less he was young man with an average life ahead of him. The whole tragedy of Henry's character is the snuffing out of his particular radiant intelligence, even though we know he would never be satisfied with a long life, he see's no glory in it. I absolutely think the reading the writing points towards is that he was a rare genius.
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the strokes: in transit - 2001 tour (2004)
transcript:
unknown: oh, here's the gun.
fab, to julian: (dramatic voice) where'd you go, man, where'd you go, motherfucker? where'd you [inaudible], motherfucker?
julian: (crosstalk) kill me!
ryan: (crosstalk) hey guys, [inaudible] hey- rosemary has kids and stuff so she needs to go home.
fab: oh, shit. (to ryan, in a dramatic voice) yo, i don't like that mouth, man, i don't like how you run that mouth.
julian: (crosstalk) [inaudible] what about my kids?
julian: what about my fucking kids, ryan? what about little fabrizio? he hasn't eaten in three hours. (turns and slaps fab) shut up! don't do that (breaks off into laughter)
nick, off-screen: what're you filming, man?
/end transcript
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