Mass Effect 3, references to controlling the Reapers (4):
Speaking to TIM on Thessia after meeting the Prothean VI Vendetta:
TIM: "Stick to your talents, Dr. T'Soni. You've helped uncover the key to subjugating the Reapers."
Shepard: "Or destroying them."
TIM: "Damn it, Shepard. Destroying the Reapers gains us nothing."
Shepard: "How about peace?"
TIM: "They're just trying to control us. Think about it: If they wanted all organic life destroyed, they could do it. There would be nothing left."
Shepard: "What the hell are you talking about?"
TIM: "I know them, Shepard. I know how they think."
Shepard: "I think you've gotten a little too close to the enemy."
TIM: "No... I'm saying they've got it right. Why kill when you can control?"
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------Shepard (Paragon): "You've been spending too much time with the enemy. They're dragging you over to their side - their way of thinking."
TIM: "No. I just... see things differently."
Shepard: "If you truly care about humanity, you'll stop fighting me. You'll join me."
TIM: "Don't ever question my intentions. I've sacrificed more for humanity than you'll ever know.
"And don't assume you know me.
"My methods for dealing with the Reapers are simply more refined than yours."
Shepard: "You've forgotten everything you stood for! Cerberus was supposed to be humanity's sword, not a dagger in our back."
TIM: "Poetic, but as usual, you miss the point. The world is more gray than you care to admit."
Shepard: "With the Prothean data in this beacon, I can end this conflict, once and for all.
"You're either with me or against me. There's nothing gray about that."
TIM: "No, I suppose there isn't."
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Shepard: (renegade): "The Reapers have it right? You're indoctrinated! You're doing just what they want."
Shepard: "I could say the same of you, wasting time on a war that can't be won."
Shepard: "At least I'm fighting."
TIM: "Never question my ability to fight! I've been fighting them longer than you can imagine.
"And don't assume you know me.
"My methods for dealing with the Reapers are simply more refined than yours."
Shepard: "I might have believed you once, but you've gone too far."
TIM: "Shepard, you're out of your depth. There are choices coming that you're not equipped to make."
Shepard: "At least I'll be making them as a human being. You're just some Reaper-puppet."
TIM: "No. There's a better way forward. Humanity can be so much more..."
Shepard: "I'm finishing the Crucible, and I'm sending the Reapers back to hell."
TIM: "I can't let you do that."
-This is highly reminiscent of speaking with Saren on Virmire.
I consider that to the trilogy's detriment. TIM's arc is just a repeat of Saren's: He's indoctrinated and with enough effort Shepard can talk him into suicide. Otherwise Shepard has to kill him.
If this had occurred in every entry in the trilogy - so, an indoctrinated main villain in ME2. Perhaps the Collector General? - it would have been thematic. To defeat the Reapers you must defeat their indoctrinated agents.
Since it only occurs in ME1 and ME3, it feels like BioWare ran out of ideas and just reused one of their greatest hits in ME3 since it worked so well before.
TIM just isn't fresh enough for it to feel like mirroring.
-This once again makes it clear that Control is the indoctrinated ending.
The Reapers use the lure of Control to distract their greatest potential enemies from fighting them.
TIM is an amazing administrator. If he turned the might of Cerberus against the Reapers he could be a credible threat.
So the Reapers use Control to waste his resources and pit him against their actual opponents.
This is the game pounding it home: Control is a trap. It's not a viable ending.
So why does the actual ending treat it as one?
-While it can be perceived as Shepard just saying it to persuade TIM, I resent the writers sneaking in the possibility that Cerberus was ever a force of good if Shepard goes paragon.
The line "Humanity can be so much more..." if you go renegade makes it clear that TIM only cares about controlling the Reapers to empower humanity.