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He noticed a distinct divide, though, in that the older goblins seemed to deal primarily in silk ... Silk was produced in Thu-Athamar and had been the bedrock of the Ethuverazhaise economy for so many centuries it was practically respectable. ... She was puzzled but cooperative, and ended up enlisting the help of the gentlemen on her other side, a silk merchant who had been a sea-trader in his youth - possibly a pirate, if Maia understood the nuances of the conversation correctly - and who knew all about spices and gems and lion-girls and other exotic things that rarely made it as far north as the Ethuveraz.
When I read this the first couple of times, I think I misunderstood how this trade relationship worked and assumed these merchants were importing into the Ethuveraz. But that's not right. These are exporters, here to buy silk and various industrial goods.
I am not a historian, so my understanding of this part of real world history is from high school, supplemented by a handful of books about the spice trade. But my very basic understanding of how this played out in real life factory goods were concurrent with colonialism (don't ask me about cause and effect I don't know) and real world flow of trade that I learned was that silk and tea and spices moved towards Europe (in the worst possible way as they were being extracted by colonizing nations) and manufactured goods were sent back from Europe (still in the worst way possible with mercantilism).
But the set up in the Ethuveraz seems to be silk and manufactured goods go out, spices go in, and everyone seems to have tea about equally (iirc both Ethuverazheise and Barizhaise teas are mentioned in Cemeteries). And these countries seem to be on basically even footing.
I don't have anything interesting to say about this, in the historical sense I'm basically just throwing it out as bait in the hope someone better informed will be irritated enough to come and explain properly.
On a writing level though, I love this as a use of the secondary world setting. I like steampunk, I do, but when you write steampunk set in alternate versions of Europe (which is most of what I've encountered), the colonialism is there. The author can choose to address it or not, and they can do it badly or well but its always lurking. But the Ethuverz isn't a real country and it doesn't have a real analogue so I can just enjoy speculating about public health policy in peace.
Thank you @ilacatz for fixing my silk timeline.
I went back to my original fiber history books (The Golden Thread by Kassia St. Clair and The Fabric of Civilization by Virginia Postrel), to see if I could de-confuse myself about silk!
Neither of them covered the transport of silk into Europe, so I clearly need another book but I come bearing interesting silk facts.
I couldn't find the specific silk plague that was connected to the development of rayon but I did find a silk plague connected to the development of microbiology! A guy called Agostino Bassi identified the cause of a specific silk work plague as a fungus microscopically, and developed an infection control protocol to stop the spread. His work was then developed by Louis Pasteur.
Here are some other weird silk facts I found while I was skimming, because silk is a deeply weird substance.
Silk is a filament, so structurally, more like synthetic fibers than other natural fibres.
An intact silk worm cocoon is a single silk strand, so really good silk, isn't spun its reeled. There is also spun silk, but its lower grade because its made from damaged cocoons.
This is actually really important, because the machinery used to reel silk directly gave rise to firstly, the spinning wheel (wheels were only invented once, in China, and they double the rate thread can be produced at) and big industrial reeling machines (in Italy). The spinning wheel is also the origin of the drive belt, which is used in, among other things, motors.
Silk was used to pay taxes, a lot of small scale sericulture was historically, literally done to pay taxes.
There's a bunch of modern research using an ultra purified version of silk to make surgical mesh.
I don’t have any reeled silk but this is silk I am part way through spinning just in case anyone hasn’t seen how shiny it is.
He noticed a distinct divide, though, in that the older goblins seemed to deal primarily in silk ... Silk was produced in Thu-Athamar and had been the bedrock of the Ethuverazhaise economy for so many centuries it was practically respectable. ... She was puzzled but cooperative, and ended up enlisting the help of the gentlemen on her other side, a silk merchant who had been a sea-trader in his youth - possibly a pirate, if Maia understood the nuances of the conversation correctly - and who knew all about spices and gems and lion-girls and other exotic things that rarely made it as far north as the Ethuveraz.
When I read this the first couple of times, I think I misunderstood how this trade relationship worked and assumed these merchants were importing into the Ethuveraz. But that's not right. These are exporters, here to buy silk and various industrial goods.
I am not a historian, so my understanding of this part of real world history is from high school, supplemented by a handful of books about the spice trade. But my very basic understanding of how this played out in real life factory goods were concurrent with colonialism (don't ask me about cause and effect I don't know) and real world flow of trade that I learned was that silk and tea and spices moved towards Europe (in the worst possible way as they were being extracted by colonizing nations) and manufactured goods were sent back from Europe (still in the worst way possible with mercantilism).
But the set up in the Ethuveraz seems to be silk and manufactured goods go out, spices go in, and everyone seems to have tea about equally (iirc both Ethuverazheise and Barizhaise teas are mentioned in Cemeteries). And these countries seem to be on basically even footing.
I don't have anything interesting to say about this, in the historical sense I'm basically just throwing it out as bait in the hope someone better informed will be irritated enough to come and explain properly.
On a writing level though, I love this as a use of the secondary world setting. I like steampunk, I do, but when you write steampunk set in alternate versions of Europe (which is most of what I've encountered), the colonialism is there. The author can choose to address it or not, and they can do it badly or well but its always lurking. But the Ethuverz isn't a real country and it doesn't have a real analogue so I can just enjoy speculating about public health policy in peace.
Thank you @ilacatz for fixing my silk timeline.
I went back to my original fiber history books (The Golden Thread by Kassia St. Clair and The Fabric of Civilization by Virginia Postrel), to see if I could de-confuse myself about silk!
Neither of them covered the transport of silk into Europe, so I clearly need another book but I come bearing interesting silk facts.
I couldn't find the specific silk plague that was connected to the development of rayon but I did find a silk plague connected to the development of microbiology! A guy called Agostino Bassi identified the cause of a specific silk work plague as a fungus microscopically, and developed an infection control protocol to stop the spread. His work was then developed by Louis Pasteur.
Here are some other weird silk facts I found while I was skimming, because silk is a deeply weird substance.
Silk is a filament, so structurally, more like synthetic fibers than other natural fibres.
An intact silk worm cocoon is a single silk strand, so really good silk, isn't spun its reeled. There is also spun silk, but its lower grade because its made from damaged cocoons.
This is actually really important, because the machinery used to reel silk directly gave rise to firstly, the spinning wheel (wheels were only invented once, in China, and they double the rate thread can be produced at) and big industrial reeling machines (in Italy). The spinning wheel is also the origin of the drive belt, which is used in, among other things, motors.
Silk was used to pay taxes, a lot of small scale sericulture was historically, literally done to pay taxes.
There's a bunch of modern research using an ultra purified version of silk to make surgical mesh.
“they never explicitly looked at the camera and said ‘i am experiencing immense grief’ so how was i supposed to know??” i don’t know what to tell you, man. if a story doesn’t spoon-feed you the character's internal emotional state like a jar of mashed peas, you guys just willingly starve. subtext is not a myth, i promise it won't bite you.
He is the best. He is the softest and cutest and most loving boy.

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i feel like emotionally TGE is in the Escapist Magical School genre
i read a lot of these types of books as a kid and they generally go somewhat like this:
protagonist leads a miserable life either as an orphan, in an abusive household, or both. one day, however, protagonist suddenly is revealed to be Super Special and they have to leave their home to go to The Magic School. at magic school they are an outsider and are probably resented for their Super Special Status, however they gradually manage to make friends with the other magic school outcasts and also solve the plot
these are coming of age stories, centered on young protagonists who have faced a lot of adversity. there are often themes of generational trauma, elders being fallible, and learning responsibility. the central power fantasy revolves around being so Super Special no one can hurt you anymore
TGE plays with all of these, and in particular refuses to let all the trauma just be backstory, and drags it into the main narrative focus. it's a more grounded and adult take on the tropes of the genre, but very much in conversation with it even though it's lacking almost all of the set dressing
I think a fandom becomes more interesting when people are allowed to explore uncomfortable ideas instead of pretending they don't exist
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I swear to god, if this book makes me look up organic chemistry reactions...
I take no responsibility for this, it is not my fault, I am blaming Katherine Addison.
On the other hand I have now learned that fluoxetine was originally derived from diphenhydramine, and that's neat.
Someone who likes organic chemistry (an alien from space presumably) should write a nice easily accessible book about the relationships between these things because I like to know them, but my god trying to divine them from wikipedia is a bad activity.
I swear to god, if this book makes me look up organic chemistry reactions...
I take no responsibility for this, it is not my fault, I am blaming Katherine Addison.
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Hello ive really enjoyed ypur Goblin Emperor posting do you have any other books you recommend?
Yes! A list!
The Swords and Fire Trilogy (starts with The Tethered Mage) by Melissa Caruso: These are a trilogy of dense political fantasy novels. Caruso is the master of presenting you with a story, telling that story in the first third of the book, and then revealing the much larger more complex story underneath the original premise. Swords and Fire has a very different tone to Goblin Emperor, its much more in line with conventional fantasy, and there's more magic and violence. But it has a lot of the same preoccupations as The Goblin Emperor, one of the main plotlines centres around a vote on a civil rights bill, and the main character's arc is around negotiating how she's going to cope with an inherited political position and what compromises she's got to, or is willing to make. They also feature Ciardha, who is the character you get if you weaponize Csevet.
If you actually just want big, complex fantasy worlds and are less concerned with the plot specifics I would recommend Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell by Susanna Clarke which involves the return of magic to an alternate version of Regency England. And also Rebecca Roanhorse's Between Earth and Sky Trilogy (starts with Black Sun). There is Gideon the Ninth by Tamsyn Muir which is sci-fi and quite different but is similarly demanding.
The Spellshop by Sarah Beth Durst is a smaller scale cozy/romantic fantasy about a librarian who returns to the tiny village she grew up in while fleeing a civil war. Its very sweet and has more romance than Goblin Emperor, but it does have some of the similar notes of fixing a problem inside a system when fixing the system is out of reach. It has sequels, I've read the second and it was charming but not as nuanced.
The book I've read which is closest in terms of vibes is actually a YA post-apocalyptic novel called An Inheritance of Ashes by Leah Bobet. The actual story is completely different, its about two sisters trying to maintain their farm which is periodically being invaded by monsters. But the dynamic of how Hallie interacts with people, and the thematic line about how communities and families react to and discuss (or fail to discuss) abuse is very Goblin Emperor like, and the preoccupation with the logistics of daily life under stress will feel familiar from Cemeteries of Amalo. There are a group of friendly neighbourhood mad scientists. Also its just very, very good and it drives me insane that no one I know has read it.
Also YA and a rather different in terms of specifics are Tamora Pierce's Circle of Magic and Protector of the Small quartets. Even though these are a lot different in terms of style they do have a similar focus on dealing with problems in a setting, and they do again, share some appealing overall vibes with both Goblin and Cemeteries. I love Pierce's other Tortall books as well but they're much more conventional fantasy.
If you just want gaslamp fantasy and fun clothes my recommendation would be Gail Carriger's Finishing School and Parasol Protectorate books. These don't engage with the politics of the setting basically at all and they don't reward engagement the way Goblin, they're much more romantic silly books. I like them as cupcake books and they have a lot of airships.
If you want more necromancy I have two recommendations: Sabriel by Garth Nix starts with the titular Sabriel having to scramble to get home because her father has been killed and she must inherit a position she doesn't totally understand and isn't prepared for. She is now the Abhorsen, the state anti-necromancer - unfortunately, the whole country is overrun by zombies. Vespertine by Margaret Rogerson is another book that I can't believe isn't more popular. I've recommended it before as Sabriel + Murderbot and it features a very traumatized ghost-hunting nun. The actual plot has very little in common with Cemeteries but it does spend a lot of time on the question of what different people do with power and the difference between being in the right and actually doing the right thing, which I was enraptured by.
If you actually want the crime-solving portion of Cemeteries of Amalo, I actually would not recommend the mainstream forensics based series (I know of two if you want them Kathy Reich's Temperance Brennan and Elly Griffiths' Ruth Galloway). I do like these series but the structure of mainstream crime thrillers gives the crime solving a slightly voyeuristic tone that Addison manages to avoid with Thara. The books which are actually the most similar that I've read, are memoirs by real life forensic professionals, who are much more concerned with the dignity of the people they identify than their fictional counterparts. I've read 4 in the past year or so I would recommend: All That Remains by Sue Black (Dr. Black is a professor of forensic anthropology and this is a memoir which describes the various roles she's played over a long career which has included forensic work for law enforcement, responding to disasters, identifying victims of genocide but also anthropolgical teaching and research), The Bone Woman by Clea Koff (this is a much more narrowly focused memoir of Koff's work for the International Criminal Tribunals for Rwanda and Yugoslavia), Working Stiff by Judy Melinek (details Dr. Melinek's training as a pathologist in the medical examiner's office which ended up encompassing identifying the victims of 9/11) and Personal Effects by Robert A Jensen (Jensen is a manager of forensic specialists who made a career of managing the recovery and identification of the victims of mass casualty events).
The other non-fiction books I've referred to while reading Goblin are: Servants by Lucy Lethrbridge, which is a history of domestic servants and their relationship to the economy and labor movements, Jacquard's Web by James Essinger which is a history of the developments which lead from the Jacquard Loom to the computer, The Fabric of Civilization by Virginia Postrel and The Golden Thread by Kassia St. Clair which are both more general histories of textile production, Mother Nature by Sarah Blaffer Hrdy and A Good Time To Be Born by Perri Klass which are both examinations of infant mortality, maternal decision making and public health. I would say these are only recommendations if you're independently interested in these topics except for Perri Klass's book, which I recommend to everyone because I think it should be mandatory.
Then books that have nothing to do with Goblin Emperor but which I recommend because I just like them: The Shades of Magic Trilogy by V.E. Schwab and its Sequel The Fragile Threads of Power. These are about magicians chasing each other through four alternate versions of London and I adore them. The Chronicles of Chrestomanci by Diana Wynne Jones are sort of centered around a nine-lifed, dimension hopping enchanter known as Chrestomanci and are essentially magical school stories, except that the students all give the magical school the slip and run off to cause trouble at the earliest possible opportunity. More generally if you haven't read Diana Wynne Jones you are living a life of deprivation. The Dominion of the Fallen Series by Aliette de Bodard is a post-apocalyptic version of post-WWI Paris ruled over by fallen angels and features a character (my beloved Thuan) who wants you to think he is Maia but is actually Csevet as imagined by John Le Carré. These are quite dark and violent (they do have some Goblin Emperor style politicking towards the end but overall they're tonally more similar to Game of Thones) but I think Aliette de Bodard is criminally underappreciated so if this series isn't for you (they are A Lot) go and find her Xuya Universe space opera series.
There's this perception, I've noticed, that if you're going to have a cultural conception of something like "mental health" in your fictional setting it has to be like Ideal, it needs to be the ideal version of mental health awareness/conception/care or it needs to not exist at all even a little. Does that make sense.
Similarly there's also this idea that either a character knows what therapy is, has had some, and has had an overwhelmingly positive experience and result from it, or they have literally no concept of therapy at all, like Harry Du Bois not knowing that he's a cop style. Total blank. Very odd.
The options are not "this story takes place in the Instagram infographic universe" or "you get nothing. Everyone has a caveman's understanding of what depression is." is all I'm saying. Make a setting with a concept of mental health that sucks. Send the character to therapy that doesn't work. Officially diagnose them with something that sucks and is absolutely going to be taken out of the in-universe dsm in a couple of editions. Try something difference.
Please I beg of you while you are at it when your character needs medication write something that actually makes sense with the world building instead of abandoning literally everything you’ve developed to vomit up the patient information slip you got with your SSRI prescription. Please I cannot keep reading that.

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"Our Grandfather was very kind to us. But we are not so naïve that we did not see he was not thus to all. He did not care for our sisters as he did for us.
I really like Idra. He's clearly very bright and very observant. But he's also clearly very tough-minded in the way Maia is. He gives Maia this very direct, very incisive description of the relationships within his family, including things they did that were pretty terrible.
But he's only fourteen and he's doing this only a couple of months after his father and grandfather have been horribly killed, so even a very smart and brave fourteen year old could really be excused for wanting to avoid discussing the difficult parts of his recently dead family.
But he does though.
There were formal audiences with each of the ambassadors to the court, Pencharn, Ilinveriär, Celvaz, and of course Barizhan.
I LONG for a complete map of these countries. I need it.