Sometimes a lie can become your truth
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Sometimes a lie can become your truth
#Timeline (for me mostly)
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Hello! DarkMoon0 from ao3 here! The author of the fic where Hojo tells Miniroth Vincent is his dad.

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-enter that hayloft song here-
Seriously though, what actually IS Remake!Vincent's problem with Sephiroth because Seph would have been a very, very small child when Vincent would have known him. If not an infant. And Miniroth's entire existence in First Soldier proved that Sephiroth wasn't this scary walking antichrist when he was young. And that he was even chill and nice as an adult up until Nibelheim. The man was literally monologuing about being compassionate. So what is Vincent's deal? What did Sephiroth ever do to him? Vincent is one of the few characters who Sephiroth did not actively hurt within the narrative. Which is why OG Vincent was more engaged with hunting down Hojo.
So where is this anger coming from? Why hate a literal baby? Is he mad at Sephiroth for existing? If that's the case, you would have to blame Lucrecia and Hojo, the former he would never do and the latter he's being curiously muted on. Of all the plot changes of Remake, this is one change I genuinely don't really understand. Because OG Vincent seemed to pity Sephiroth and understand the tragedy of his situation. He felt so strongly about it that he didn't have the heart to tell Lucrecia the truth about her son.
So I'll be real--depending on how they choose to frame it, it could make or break Vincent's overall character for me. Sephiroth IS a villain and he needs to go down. He's hurt many, many people. But Vincent has the weakest grounds when it comes to hating him. And if it's revealed that Vincent was up and moving around at some point during Sephiroth's childhood, that actually DOES make him somewhat responsible for not stepping in. The thing about Vincent's character was that he was a blameless man. He just chose to blame himself out of guilt and love for Lucrecia. Not stepping in to save Lucrecia's son when the opportunity was there would change things significantly.
It's not enough to ruin the story for me or anything. But it would definitely be disappointing. Vincent is not actually a character I feel particularly attached to. But it would still be a shame. I trust the devs though. So we'll see what happens.
Hard agree and while I also agree with some of the comments and the theory that Vincent might have knowledge of the future I also have to point out that maybeee it could also be a localisation/translation problem. I remember that I saw someone said that Vincent's phrase about "putting Sephiroth in his coffin" was more about nightmares/darkness not ending until that "guy" was taken down. (Checked it and it's true that he at least doesn't call Sephiroth by name)
It reminds me when I was watching Vincent rebirth cutscenes in Japanese and Vincent said "Cloud go" and the English subtitles were "She needs you. Go". Like???? I hateeeee when the translation adds a whole new sentence like, sure the whole Sephiroth coffin thing sounds good but that's not what he says, it also takes out the ambiguity of who Vincent is talking about, Hojo?, Sephiroth? I hate it. (Translation and localisation is a pet peeve of mine in case it's not obvious lol)
I understand making localisation completely different from the original content or twisting it for jokes and so, but I hateeeee when it has potential consequences for a character's characterisation.
I was happy because I saw a notification and I was like OMG VELD then I got to the comments AND THEY'RE KILLING EVER CRISIS????
Just when I was looking forward to this weekend because I'm starting vacations and will be able to play.
Another Vincent and Sephiroth wallpaper 🫶

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I'm so so curious about Vincent's role in Revelation.
Saw on twitter people saying that Vincent's phrase about putting Sephiroth in a coffin is different in Japanese, that is something like until they eradicate him his nightmares won't end, something like that don't quote me on that lol.
And it got me thinking, because I feel that Vincent in OG is more "hesitant" somewhat about killing Sephiroth, because he's still Lucrecia's son. But now he seems determined, at least to me.
And remembering how there's like scribbles in the Shinra Manor when you recruit him that say Kadaj, Loz and Yazoo, plus Chaos' entire thing as a WEAPON and the planet and stuff, I wonder if Vincent knows more than we think.
Or if his nightmares are like Lucrecia's, about the future and Sephiroth.
I don't want to theorise anything but I'm sooo excited about part 3 and what they'll do with Vincent.
That makes a lot more sense! And whatever is going on I think it's pretty certain that Vincent indeed does know more about Seph and his doings than og Vincent did. He still doesn't have Jenova cells right? So it has to be something else.
In my case, however, I'm more apprehensive than excited... Didn't care for any of the changes about Vincent so far. His beef with Hojo made a lot more sense. Holding on to a tiny bit of hope though that wherever his story is leading to will be something amazing.
I admit that I do feel some apprehension too, specially about his "aggressive" approach towards Sephiroth rather than Hojo, not a fan of that at all lol. I hope they explain that change in part 3 without taking away Vincent's pain and regret about the situation.
I am excited, however, about how they'll deal with his limit breaks and to see the whole Vincent/Lucrecia/Hojo past in HD.
I'm so so curious about Vincent's role in Revelation.
Saw on twitter people saying that Vincent's phrase about putting Sephiroth in a coffin is different in Japanese, that is something like until they eradicate him his nightmares won't end, something like that don't quote me on that lol.
And it got me thinking, because I feel that Vincent in OG is more "hesitant" somewhat about killing Sephiroth, because he's still Lucrecia's son. But now he seems determined, at least to me.
And remembering how there's like scribbles in the Shinra Manor when you recruit him that say Kadaj, Loz and Yazoo, plus Chaos' entire thing as a WEAPON and the planet and stuff, I wonder if Vincent knows more than we think.
Or if his nightmares are like Lucrecia's, about the future and Sephiroth.
I don't want to theorise anything but I'm sooo excited about part 3 and what they'll do with Vincent.
Joke post.
One more thing that makes the Vincent is the dad theory "strong" is their "similarities".
And with the new costumes we can say that Sephiroth inherited Vincent's body type.
Broad chest, snatched waist and no ass.
Some say Hojo can't be the father because Sephiroth looks nothing like him.
Which in turn means that in theory Hojo has to have a big butt now.
Forgot to show that I'm a proud owner of Chaos Vincent costume now.
Took me hours of farming to get enough crystals since I can only play on weekends when I'm back in town from work.
:') sad news is that now I have little story content left to get crystals from.
I know it's because they're friends but Vincent's VA calling Sephiroth's new VA my boy just gives me feels.
Also I just find voice actors getting along wholesome

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Was watching the trailer for the eighth time when I went from :D to :( because
??? No Zack???
No Aerith??? (I mean yeah but still...)
At least we got this
Bro looks majestic here too
Vincent look at the camera you introverted man
I was drinking on every Vincent frame that every time I didn't catch him with the others I was like
WHERE ARE YOUUU
WHERE IS VINCENTTTT
THAT TRAILER?!
Vincent and Sephiroth looked so good, all that Vincent content 👌 I ate well 👌👌
Also???
“I won’t return to my coffin until we put Sephiroth in his”
BRO?!? Vincent??
He said Sephiroth needs to stay a memory for real lol
SEPHIROTH AND VINCENT WALLPAPER!
(Not sure about Sephiroth's Omega outfit but I love that Vincent Chaos design so I'll take it)
THEY DID NOT!

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Look at him, I'm sure he's inspired by Leslie because of the Don Corneo event.
I also love how the colors they usually choose for Sephiroth are red and blue, (besides the usual black, silver, white)
Imagine if they give him a red cloak someday
👁👄👁
What if the “Angeal is Zack’s father” theory breached SOLDIER containment? Like, if it has gotten out to the ShinRa’s main floors and gained traction?
*Kunsel is outside the data room when he’s physically cornered by Angeal (who has Sephiroth for backup)*
Kunsel: NOT THE FACE—
Angeal: So you’re the one who’s been writing all those conspiracy blog posts about me??
Kunsel: Uh…guilty.
Angeal: Do you have any idea what you’ve done?? The fan forums have fractured into three separate camps that are actively hostile to each other. HR pulled me in for a meeting. The Turks have an open betting pool for if I’m really Zack’s father or not. Every time Tseng sees me in the elevator he shakes his head in disapproval. And!! Hojo cornered us in the mess hall yesterday and came at me with a needle for a paternity sample!
Sephiroth: I had to fight him off with a fork.
Angeal: He had to fight him off with a fork!!
Sephiroth: The speculation also spread across the globe. Mrs Hewley called the department line upset that she was being kept from her grandchild. Fortunately, I handled it and consoled her.
Angeal: Wait WHAT?
Sephiroth:
Kunsel: Okay, in my defense, I’m just providing content! I can’t control what people do with information. That’s on them for being dense!
*Zack stomps around the corner and points at Angeal*
Zack: So you’re just going to recommend those new Third Class rookies for First Class over me?? Your own son?? Your flesh and blood??
Angeal: For the last time, I’m not your father! And if I was, you wouldn’t be in SOLDIER to begin with, YOU’D BE IN COLLEGE!
Zack: YOU’RE THE WORST DAD EVER!
*He runs off*
Angeal: OK THAT’S IT. Kunsel, find something else to write about. Anything. I don’t care what. Just not this!
Kunsel: Yeahh..you’re right.
*He produces a video camera, points it at himself, and hits record*
Kunsel: What’s up SOLDIER fans! Today’s deep dive: Sephiroth and the mounting evidence that his biological father is a long lost Turk who is rumored to be a vampire.
Sephiroth, interested: Hm.
Angeal: OH FOR THE LOVE OF—