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Klaus and Violet —

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I'm so glad you said something - it went into spam for some reason. I do moderate comments but when it works right I get an email and usually respond pretty quickly.

I'm looking forward to reading it. I've been following the discussion on Discord.

I particularly love this:

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if this game is trying to discuss complex issues and is not just an excuse for pairing up two fucked up siblings because its hot i guess, why include that scene? how does it help the narrative my dudes? and for who's sake is it included then?

The dream helps the narrative as it gives Ashley knowledge of something she didn't know before.

WE (the players) know Andrew is into Ashley because we get glimpses of his inner thoughts, his actions while he's away from Ashley, etc. But it's also very clear that Andrew did his best to hide this from her (and from himself too).

ASHLEY, on the other hand, only realized Andrew was into her because of that dream, which is also made clear by her reactions and thoughts after that.

it is not like this could have been done in any other way. it HAD to be a dream sex scene. it is not like a character can know another character is sexually attracted to them without a dream sex scene.

we all know that you cannot know if someone is sexually attracted to you unless they have dream sex with you.

amazing.

you are absolutely right in saying i think you are gross for shipping this. its great you can admit it.

its..almost like im right when i said this game romanticizes incest huh

i see you are trying to prove something here, but you failed since the dream sex scene WAS NOT NEEDED for ashley to find out andrew is sexually attracted to her. But you know what this proves?

That the creator decided to choose this way of letting ashley and us know that andrew is into her.

Now I wonder why? Why not let ashley reach this conclusion in other ways? Why make it into a sex scene?

Unlesssss. I think you can guess now.

First of all, I NEVER said a clairvoyant dream was absolutely necessary to make Ashley aware of Andrew's attraction — that wasn't part of your original question.

After I explained that we (the players) knew that, and the scene serves the narrative to give Ashley that information, you changed the subject to something else entirely. Now, it went from "How does it help the narrative" to "Why couldn't it have been done differently?".

Fine, let's address that too:

A little bit of genre literacy would help understand why the creator of a dark fantasy piece of media would decide to go for maximum shock rather than a tame reveal.

You said it yourself, the players can know Andrew is into Ashley even before that dream; the game slowly does a tame reveal first, and, as it branches off in multiple routes, Ashley only gets that specific dream in one of them — Now, it does seem like its mere existence as a possibility turned off a lot of people like you from the game, and basically left only proshippers in the fandom. Back when only Chapter 1 had been released, I used to see antis talking about it, now most of them are gone. The game isn't attracting proshippers, antis are the ones too entitled to stick with anything that doesn't conform 100% to their tastes.

I could (ironically) criticize any other aspect of the game with the same argument "We all know that if you're locked up in your apartment and starving, eating a neighbor is the only possible solution. Couldn't Nemlei have thought of something else? Amazing." And why stop there? We could go on forever picking apart pieces of media that way, "Mortal Kombat doesn't need fatalities! All that gore is so unnecessary!" Last but not least, disappointed but not surprised.

The only one who "admitted" anything here was you. What I said was:

Calling me "gross" was just the first thing I assumed you would do, which you did. I doubted it would take long for you to start with the personal attacks against me, and since you openly admitted I'm "absolutely right", you aren't above throwing insults at someone who is trying to have a civilized debate, this is where I draw the line and you won't hear further from me.

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No but I definitely am now (this is rushed I’m so sorry everyone)

Antishipper x Proshipper enemies to lovers Andrew is still an anti right now - ultimately repressing a lot of desire and using disgust to cover it - while Ashley is the proshipper, acknowledges they did a LOT worse, and "getting laid" pales in comparison.