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wordfather

dont look at me with those big beautiful eyes im trying to be Weird and evil to you

lookatthethrones

Jaime Lannister to Brienne of Tarth.

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blue-heron

god i love pride and prejudice. the mortifying ordeal of your family finding out that you actually love that one asshole you made everyone in the family dislike

tossawary

Despite not being an ASOIAF or GOT fan, Brienne of Tarth is very dear to me if only because "Lady Knight clinging desperately to the ideals of honour partially because otherwise she's inclined to make decisions based on her heart and her horniness... and her taste in men is just dogshit" is a VERY funny character concept.

#nooooooo that’s her legacy 😔#Brienne of Tarth

melrosing

Genuinely, I wonder if GRRM wants to have his cake and eat it too when it comes to Rhaegar and Lyanna (and Elia, Rhaenys and Aegon). Yes, he sees it as the Greatest Romance of All Time, but also knows what it means for his wife and kids. Yes, what happened to them is horrid, but it's not Rhaegar and Lyanna's fault that Tywin ordered their deaths. Their love is the gold standard, no matter the price paid for it (which again is not their fault). Am I going crazy, or is there a genuine disconnect/dissonance happening when it comes to this?

I think there’s elements of this disconnect lol. like Rhaegar having family in KL is really the only thing that gives R/L its ‘forbidden’ flavour (bc like who cares that Lyanna is also engaged to a guy she barely knows that’s just every romance conflict ever). however it’s also the thing that makes their romance fundamentally unlikeable to so many people. no matter how hard u play up the soulmate imagery and their ‘child born of love’, there’s really no getting away from the fact that Rhaegar abdicates not only the throne but his responsibilities to his wife and babies who are then brutally fucking murdered thanks to his carelessness and neglect like…. there’s no getting around this. Rhaegar is never going to redeem himself of this catastrophic failure, and never seeks to do so. TMK has arrived, it’s given us the fullest story I think we’re ever like to get or R/L’s romance (unless GRRM gets SEVERELY sidetracked) and I haven’t seen any surge of love for the pair …. and it’s probably because even when given this fairly sympathetic framing, Rhaegar’s actions still just fucking suck lol.

I think the play dips its toe into acknowledging this, while I think GRRM will be spared having to acknowledge it by just never giving us his POV in the way the play does. because Rhaegar and Lyanna are dead and the most we can ever see of them now will be via anecdote and visions, it seems fair to say GRRM has no choice but to leave it up to the reader how they perceive Rhaegar’s actions. and I think that really for the best atp. R/L can be the greatest romance in their own minds, but readers will have to decide for themselves

melrosing

Call me biased (I am) but i really think jb is also among grrm's favourite couples (doesn't the harrenhal bath scene directly mirror how he met his wife lol)

I think they are too but whilst their romance remains a ‘spoiler’ we’re not gonna get to hear about it 😭 but we have that ‘beauty and the beast’ thing he explained to Gwendoline Christie which is a dead giveaway…. and ofc the fact that AFFC was practically written FOR Brienne + he came out with Rohanne and Dunk literally in the midst of writing Jaime and Brienne’s AFFC chapters ….. the signs are there I fear

chrkrose

If he ever decides to spill the beans people will be shocked when they realize how much of a j/b girlie George is, it’s so very obvious.

#afffc was truly written for Brienne basically like wow #and they are truly the only effective love story he’s developing #jaime x brienne #brienne of tarth #jaime lannister #j/b

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ilynpilled

being forgiven by your victims and absolved from the harm you cause others is not a requirement for change of conduct and attempts at material restitution. i find it fruitless and frankly infuriating that “redemption” is fixated on as the former

ilynpilled

just because you are not entitled to people’s forgiveness or “absolution” doesn’t mean that it is meaningless to change. that should be your own battle

ilynpilled

you may get it, but you don’t need to get it. again, forgiven by who? absolved by who? there is not gonna be some universal supreme judgement that you will receive that can close this all up nicely and neatly for you, i’m sorry. someone you have harmed may give it to you, someone else might not. you will remain with yourself all the same

freedomofthegull

"he decided" wow Jaime's really forcing it isn't he

chrkrose

“Someone had dressed her” YOU DRESSED HER YOU FOOL, THE DRESS WAS EVEN PADDED ON THE BODICE TO GIVE IT THAT SHAPE (why were you starring at her boobs?)

Where is the cabbage when we need it

#a song of ice and fire #asoiaf #jaime lannister #brienne of tarth #j/b #jaime x Brienne

Read your sunrise takes and I agree with some and disagree with others. The big one I agree with is Lenore dove because yeah it feels very heavy handed there and like I know it ya but still. It feels more like they both have mutual limerence for eachother. I half agree with the cameo’s. Some I was okay with but some were a little on the nose though maybe it’s because I gave the cast of the film in My head and they were probably much younger then they would be in catching fire if you factor in this book. Though it does show how the people that threw their weight behind Katniss have on some level always been angsty for a fight and have been trying for years before Katniss arrived and they finally succeeded. I honestly don’t mind the whole games being propaganda subversions because it does raise great questions if what other games have they tried to sabotage and the capitol had to scramble to cover them up.

Omg I only NOW saw this sorry.

I think my biggest grip with the cameos (and with this whole book as a whole) is that it felt written for the movie you know? I felt as if they were specifically written so we could see them in the big screen, and some of them didn’t feel natural at all within the story.

I like the idea of the revolution being in the works for many decades, I actually find it quite believable, but Suzanne undermined that by making Katniss a special one tm with how much she made the world smaller and interconnected to such a degree that it felt like we were seeing a Targaryen family tree in district 12. And making Haymitch pay attention to Katniss from the very beginning like… cmon.

All in all, I think the subversion with the games being propaganda could have been better written, she should have sat with that idea for a bit longer to come up with a better plot to explore that. But they had a movie to make so…

I honestly prefer to ignore this book because it really undermined the saga as a whole to me.

#SOTR #sunrise on the reaping

Thought about father!Jaime and started crying

I honestly think it’s very possible Jaime and Brienne will have a child. Like, I truly think this is a very concrete possibility. Idk if he will survive to see that child growing into their own person, but I hope so 🥺

#brienne of tarth #jaime lannister #jaime x brienne #j/b

bombusbombus

Everyone except me is wrong about The Character

bombusbombus

And my beloved mutual who fills a sort of "scheming advisor" role in my opinions about The Character

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brienneevenstar

let’s make this clear:

when rhaegar chose “love” over duty: he’s a bum

when jaime chooses brienne over everything: hot, sexy, romantic, fated, beautiful, greatest romance of all time,

chrkrose

Thinking if I should write short one shots for this run of ck3, the plot is really really good this time around. Jaime hasn’t died yet (he’s in his late 60s) and I keep postponing just because I don’t want him to die 😭. But he’s so old, his health is going to shit lmao (he still tumbled Brienne just the other day and got a health boost because he’s living the bliss of having a soulmate, they are sick can’t stand them). OTOH, I want to see what this new submod I added will write for his legacy once he passes away and I want to play as Galladon.

There’s also a murder scheme happening against Jaime going on, I suspect it’s because in his last battle he killed the female captain of the Iron Islands army and two Iron Islanders sworn to avenge her. Too bad Jaime has a great master of spies in his court who finds out every time someone new enters the scheme. Idk why they bother, his heart is failing him already and he’s still climbing Brienne like a tree and going on rides with Honor, he’s gonna die in the next 2 years for sure.

chrkrose

Btw Jaime died at 72 of heart failure. His last memory was… tumbling Brienne LMAO. He died doing what he loved <3

And the murder scheme was a lord who Jaime has a falling out with some 30 years before because Jaime accepted training him when he visit Casterly Rock but he was lazy so Jaime lost his patience and sent him away at the time. The guy held a grudge for 30+ years bfr.

#ck3 agot #j/b #jaime lannister #brienne of tarth #jaime x brienne

Some Jaime takes on the ASOIAF subreddit are truly wild lmao. Never mind the complete omission of Brienne from discussions about a plotline that is also very obviously about her and her arc, but someone truly said that Jaime is apparently going to feel so betrayed by Brienne and so disillusioned by Stoneheart that he runs back to Cersei, gets her pregnant in a moment of weakness, leaves her again to fight in the North, finds out about the bAbY, and then runs back to Cersei again because #fatherhood. And then people will look you dead in the eye and insist the show has absolutely nothing to do with this reading. This is all coming organically from the books. WHERE 😭

Also why do people keep taking plot points that belong to Brienne, or specifically to Jaime and Brienne, and finding increasingly elaborate ways to make them about Cersei?? First Ronnet is supposedly there so Jaime can get jealous because he’ll hook up with Cersei and Jaime will fight him over her. Now Stoneheart, who is literally the culmination of Brienne’s entire conflict over vows and honor, is apparently there to send Jaime running back to Cersei too. At this point just stan Brienne, man. Stop stealing her plotlines 😭. Next what, Hyle and Jaime will be on a love triangle over Cersei? BRIENNE will fight Jaime over Cersei? lol

And this annoys me for Cersei too, surprisingly. I know the show turned Carol Bowlcut into the Big Bad Who Ever Badded and made show Larry spend 90% of his existence orbiting her, but book Cersei has her own story. Not everything involving Jaime needs to circle back to her, and not everything involving Brienne needs to be repackaged and handed to Cersei. My girl has plenty going on already.

#for real George RELEASE SOMETHING

thelaughingtree

incredible stuff happening over on reddit

theaisyapping

#hihihi they’re flirting #jaime x brienne #j/b #jaime lannister #brienne of tarth

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ariesrin

I love characters who would die for each other but will not, under any circumstances, communicate a single honest feeling.

#Ser 'gods know why I bother' and Lady 'why should I care why you die'#'he recalled another bath one he shared with Brienne'#'besides it was Renly she wanted'#ronnet laughed. Jaime did not. 'call her by her name. call her Brienne'#she cut his hand off. 'that one was for Jaime'#‘Brienne where are you?'#'jaime come back for me!'#jaime x brienne #brienne of tarth #jaime lannister #j/b

melrosing

only good thing barristan selmy has ever done: upload first pic of jaime in costume on IG

#FINALLYYYYYYYYY

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