Cunty Girl: Relax I'll handle it

It was perfectly on topic.

@oojamaflip-whatchamacallit

And someone in a screenshot claimed “only trans women are denied housing” which this person corrected. Trans men are in fact also denied housing.

Did you just miss the screenshot reblog?

And sorry but a trans man trying to go to a men-centric shelter is TERRIFYING.

So even if it were the case that trans men could get in, and the claim that trans women have it ‘so much worse’ were true, that just completely ignores the still-awful plight of trans men. Who are at risk of rape and pregnancy. What happened to solidarity?

(Whereas the fear is the other way around for womens’ shelters- because patriarchy and trauma)

This isn’t because of any sort of misogyny unfortunately. It’s the penises.

it’s funny that the poltical climate is like ‘Hmmm genital checks for underage kids playing sports, hmmm yes’ but genital checks for literal adults who can consent and simply get a doctor’s note for such isn’t suggested for the most vulnerable vagina-havers to feel safe. Like if bottom modification was required that wouldn’t fix the problem- but it would at least extend housing to those trans women. And maybe in some places it could be pushed to even those who have had orchi even if they hadn’t had full surgery.

"a trans man trying to get into a man-centric shelter is TERRIFYING" (why would a trans man try to get into a "man-centric shelter" (what the fuck is a man-centric shelter btw, we just making shit up now) when he could just go to the women's shelter and they'd let him in)

"This isn't because of any sort of misogyny unfortunately. It's the penises"

Suggesting genital checks at homeless shelters to be a totally normal and actually beneficial thing and that it would make "the most vulnerable vagina-havers to feel safe

The idea that a post-op trans women is safer around "the most vulnerable vagina havers" than a pre-op trans woman purely because "rape organ"

“I will also that trans men or non-binary people of any agab will often also be kicked out of these shelters and housing, bc they are deemed too masculine. In the UK there are specific additions to the rules around trans people being their agab, that state trans men can be removed from women's spaces if they are deemed too masculine (this does not grant them access to male spaces)”

Somebody is not reading the thread.

“creating”

Literally what.

“Making bargains and carving out accessibility concessions in a current transphobic culture could look like X” is not “creating” anything. Transphobia already exists.

No wonder you can’t grasp my blog, you lack the critical thinking skills and make wild conclusions that don’t follow from what’s being said.

If you have a hard time conceptualizing that a post-op trans woman cannot rape in the typical sense nor cause pregnancy, (ergo traumatized people feel more secure. Note this is not ‘all trans women are rapists’ as some no-nuance takes conclude in error) tho-

That’s not inability to grasp nuance, which is what the rest of your message reads as, but straight up putting blinders on.

A person with trauma involving dog bites would also feel more secure with an old dog that had barely any teeth.

No matter how sweet any given tooth-having dog was around them.

They are often still nervous around dogs. This is especially true for POC.

Maybe you people just don’t exactly understand how trauma works. @kum-and-go-official

Waitress taking my order: Such arrogance! Not only do you presume to boast under the guise of being humble, but your order employs the most decadent of linguistic excesses - the tautology!

My date, who until recently thought "tautology" referred to the study of tensile strengths and upon learning her mistake compensated by reading through its Wikipedia article: That would be more correctly identified as a "pleonasm".

The editor I hired to curate my posts who styles himself as a sort of scheming court advisor: My liege, this one is getting away from us. The punchline loses much of its impact when the rest of the joke is derailed by this increasingly self-indulgent meta humour. Were it up to me, your Grace, which of course it is not, I would cut the others and leave myself as the only supporting character. You need noone else, Your Majesty...

It was perfectly on topic.

@oojamaflip-whatchamacallit

And someone in a screenshot claimed “only trans women are denied housing” which this person corrected. Trans men are in fact also denied housing.

Did you just miss the screenshot reblog?

And sorry but a trans man trying to go to a men-centric shelter is TERRIFYING.

So even if it were the case that trans men could get in, and the claim that trans women have it ‘so much worse’ were true, that just completely ignores the still-awful plight of trans men. Who are at risk of rape and pregnancy. What happened to solidarity?

(Whereas the fear is the other way around for womens’ shelters- because patriarchy and trauma)

This isn’t because of any sort of misogyny unfortunately. It’s the penises.

it’s funny that the poltical climate is like ‘Hmmm genital checks for underage kids playing sports, hmmm yes’ but genital checks for literal adults who can consent and simply get a doctor’s note for such isn’t suggested for the most vulnerable vagina-havers to feel safe. Like if bottom modification was required that wouldn’t fix the problem- but it would at least extend housing to those trans women. And maybe in some places it could be pushed to even those who have had orchi even if they hadn’t had full surgery.

"a trans man trying to get into a man-centric shelter is TERRIFYING" (why would a trans man try to get into a "man-centric shelter" (what the fuck is a man-centric shelter btw, we just making shit up now) when he could just go to the women's shelter and they'd let him in)

"This isn't because of any sort of misogyny unfortunately. It's the penises"

Suggesting genital checks at homeless shelters to be a totally normal and actually beneficial thing and that it would make "the most vulnerable vagina-havers to feel safe

The idea that a post-op trans women is safer around "the most vulnerable vagina havers" than a pre-op trans woman purely because "rape organ"

“I will also that trans men or non-binary people of any agab will often also be kicked out of these shelters and housing, bc they are deemed too masculine. In the UK there are specific additions to the rules around trans people being their agab, that state trans men can be removed from women's spaces if they are deemed too masculine (this does not grant them access to male spaces)”

Somebody is not reading the thread.

“creating”

Literally what.

“Making bargains and carving out accessibility concessions in a current transphobic culture could look like X” is not “creating” anything. Transphobia already exists.

No wonder you can’t grasp my blog, you lack the critical thinking skills and make wild conclusions that don’t follow from what’s being said.

If you have a hard time conceptualizing that a post-op trans woman cannot rape in the typical sense nor cause pregnancy, (ergo traumatized people feel more secure. Note this is not ‘all trans women are rapists’ as some no-nuance takes conclude in error) tho-

That’s not inability to grasp nuance, which is what the rest of your message reads as, but straight up putting blinders on.

A person with trauma involving dog bites would also feel more secure with an old dog that had barely any teeth.

No matter how sweet any given tooth-having dog was around them.

They are often still nervous around dogs. This is especially true for POC.

Maybe you people just don’t exactly understand how trauma works. @kum-and-go-official

cis men, cis women, trans men, and tme nonbinary people, are all privileged over transfeminized people on the basis of our being able to leverage transmisogyny while being able to dodge its worst effects.

any of us, literally any of us, if mistaken for transfeminized people can not only escape that accusation with the literal backing of the state's assignment, but also usually receive community support in the form of everyone insisting that this violence was wrongfully applied to us, rather than challenging the violence itself.

people are outraged on our behalf. this violence is not naturalized for us. it is incidental and invites righteous defense on our behalf. this is extremely not the case for transfeminized people.

it is transphobic in and of itself to argue that trans men are not "real" men on the basis of their being trans. it is also transmisogynistic in and of itself to argue that trans men (or tme nonbinary people, or cis women) are less capable of enacting and escaping forms of oppressive gendered violence on the basis of their being assigned female at birth.

the idea that a trans man is somehow less capable of (or rather, less accountable for) transmisogyny if remaining closeted as a cis woman is rooted in the very transmisogynistic worldview that trans women are identifying.

you cannot identify out of responsibility for your part in dismantling transmisogynistic systems of gender valuation. no one can. even transfeminized people themselves must constantly interrogate their own participation in these structures, for their sisters and their own survival. everyone must, but usually only transfems do. this is the issue.