Everyone is so weird about people who cry easily. Fellas, is it evil and manipulative to *checks notes* have an involuntary stress response?
actually a coworker of mine said something interesting about this. I was saying that I truly can’t help how easily I cry, and I hate when people assume I do it on purpose.
and he paused for a second and then said, “when you’ve been taught from a young age that crying is weak and you should train yourself never to cry for any reason, you assume that everyone else has trained themselves too, so anyone who cries has to be doing it on purpose. it took me a long time to realize that wasn’t true.”
listen we’re never gonna run out of ways the patriarchy hurts all of us.
Was very hesitant to add onto this from my perspective but I thought it was worth sharing anyway:
From the POV of the “person who made the other one cry” and from the POV of anyone else watching, we are *also* trained to immediately presume the person not crying has just gone too far. Suddenly whatever argument we have collapses, whatever wrong needs righting must be put aside or flat-out forgiven because “you made somebody cry you’re the ultimate asshole congrats” is also a thing. And, at least for me, *that’s* why they can feel manipulative when they’re not, because of this social pressure to bend to tears.
Unfortunately in my experience tears like this have always meant “my grievances must be swallowed because they’re sensitive and immune to consequences and if I keep pushing or attempt to circle back later, I’m being unreasonable and cruel” keeps happening.
Involuntary stress response is involuntary stress response, just with this current system everybody loses. Being pressured to shoulder the blame and guilt for triggering someone’s stress response is a very slippery slope to not standing up for yourself lest you risk upsetting someone and looking like a bully.
TLDR: The other side to “we shouldn’t presume tears are manipulative because holding society to a ‘do not cry’ standard is unhealthy” is “we shouldn’t presume that tears are consequence enough, because it robs people of justice by forcing the other person to apologize for something that’s not their fault, or look like a remorseless villain.”
The previous addition is extremely important.
I would also like to add that crying is one of the few stress responses that people respond to with sympathy, at least for women and people perceived as women. Hence why some women do fake crying, and why people may suspect them of doing so. Other stress responses are virtually always penalised.
I don't cry from stress, or at least I haven't since I was very small child. I do cry from grief, and I sometimes have tears when listening to or watching something emotional, so it's not that I can't cry or that I restrain myself; I just don't have the tendency to cry from stress.
My natural response to stress is to raise my voice. I was trained, from a very early age, never to do that for any reason. Because that's "shouting" and it's "scary" and "aggressive" and "makes everything worse", and it might make someone else cry.
If I "make" someone cry (not even by being loud; I've seen a grown woman cry because I misunderstood an instruction and she took that personally) then I am expected to apologise. If someone makes me stressed enough to raise my voice... then I am also expected to apologise for "losing my temper".
Because is recognised as a sign of stress whereas a raised voice is interpreted as a sign of aggression, and people then subject the person to even more stress as punishment.
Another thing that a someone who cries easily may not realise is that their crying causes stress in other people. Yet if someone was crying and another person responded by shouting, swearing, storming out, shutting down, or even bursting into tears themselves - or really doing anything other than apologising/offering comfort - then that would be taken badly. The burden is on others to maintain their emotional control while the person crying has lost theirs.
When I see someone crying I assume that they're genuinely upset. (Whether they're upset for a valid reason is a different question.) However I feel that if I can be expected to control my response, (i.e. speak in a quiet, gentle voice), so as not to cause other people distress, then they should be able to control theirs for my sake.






















