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Golden Fruit Dove (Ptilinopus luteovirens), male, family Columbidae, order Columbiformes, endemic to the Fiji Islands

Photograph by Dubi Shapiro

Orange Dove (Ptilinopus victor), male, family Columbidae, endemic to Fiji

photograph by Chris Venetz & Chris Wiley

Jambu Fruit Dove (Ptilinopus jambu), male, family Columbidae, found in Malaysia and Indonesia

Photograph by @wendytpb

Cloven-feathered Dove (Drepanoptila holosericea), family Columbidae, New Caledonia

photograph by JJ Harrison

White-breasted Fruit-Dove (Ptilinopus rivoli), male, family Columbidae, order Columbiformes, Papua New Guinea

photograph by Trevor Hardaker

Pink-spotted Fruit Dove (Ptilinopus perlatus), family Columbidae, order Columbiformes, found in New Guinea

photo: Irawan Subingar

Wompoo Fruit-Dove (Megaloprepia magnifica), male, family Columbidae, order Columbiformes, QLD, Australia

Photograph by Jun Jose

Wompoo Fruit-Dove (Megaloprepia magnifica), male, family Columbidae, order Columbiformes, QLD, Australia

Photograph by Jun Jose

Cinnamon-headed Green Pigeon (Treron fulvicollis), male, family Columbidae, order Columbiformes, Singapore

photograph by Hong Yijun

Pheasant Pigeon (Otidiphaps nobilis), family Columbidae, order Columbiformes, found in New Guinea and nearby islands

I said that you have to have energy for that, and thus the dogmatic assertion that everyone should do that is ableist.

Your response is that people can do a big shop if they want. So I ask you what the original tweet asked: How do people do this in a world without cars?

And it does use less energy when you don't have to drive to get somewhere and can walk a block. If you want to do big shops, you still can, if you use a cart or cargo bike. I also never said cars should be banned in this post

Not everyone is the same.

I can appreciate that walking, even a block, is extremely difficult for some people. Are you able to appreciate that cars aren't the only form of locomotion invented by people? And that, in fact, a walkable city is more amenable to your disability, because mopeds can be parked a hell of a lot closer to the front entrance than a car, meaning you can do your chores and walk less.

To answer your honest question: I park in accessible parking, if there isn't any available I either do not go or I use my rollator to make frequent stops.

I'm not going to tell you what a rollator is, because I want to see if your ableist self can go look it up and then figure out how dumb you sound attempting to suggest that cars aren't important vehicles to add access.

I said that you have to have energy for that, and thus the dogmatic assertion that everyone should do that is ableist.

Your response is that people can do a big shop if they want. So I ask you what the original tweet asked: How do people do this in a world without cars?

And it does use less energy when you don't have to drive to get somewhere and can walk a block. If you want to do big shops, you still can, if you use a cart or cargo bike. I also never said cars should be banned in this post

Not everyone is the same.

I can appreciate that walking, even a block, is extremely difficult for some people. Are you able to appreciate that cars aren't the only form of locomotion invented by people? And that, in fact, a walkable city is more amenable to your disability, because mopeds can be parked a hell of a lot closer to the front entrance than a car, meaning you can do your chores and walk less.

To answer your honest question: I park in accessible parking, if there isn't any available I either do not go or I use my rollator to make frequent stops.

I'm not going to tell you what a rollator is, because I want to see if your ableist self can go look it up and then figure out how dumb you sound attempting to suggest that cars aren't important vehicles to add access.

At absolutely no point has anyone in the discussion mentioned zero cars, except for you. The original post only mentions it as "people who hate cars". I hate cars. I still recognize their value, while wishing I personally didn't need one. You can still have your car! I've been in a lot of walkable cities and communities. They all have cars! You can do the big shop if you want. Possibly, you will have to walk a little farther due to parking being more constrained. And this is a net negative for you specifically. Probably. Maybe your walkable community winds up like many of those in Florida, where golf carts are a perfectly fine way to get around. There are many options to consider!

Increased options for accessibility are a net good, even if those options don't suit yourself. You will always be ableist if you center only yourself and your own disabilities.

Cars add access, you are correct. This is, in fact, the entire point of them. No one denies this. The issue, is that city planning so heavily weighted towards folks with cars, only adds access for the people fortunate enough to afford them, at the expense of the folks who cant. On the balance, where do folks with disabilities tend to land?

All I have ever said is that this position, that cars are necessary for some people only ever shows up after the person speaking has tried to call a disabled person stupid. You all position us as morons and idiots for saying that our mobilities require cars, trying to prove that they don't and by the time we get to "some disabled people require cars for mobility," you all act like we were the ones who pretended that's not true. You exemplified that in your responses here.

Never ever said anything to the contrary. Only you did.

Why would I go out of my way to insult you by trying to explain what you can and can't do with your rollator? Moreover, why are you insisting that I patronize you in this manner? It seems like you would prefer me to be condescending over having a nuanced discussion about accessibility. Why is this? All I'm asking is for you to have a little imagination of what a walkable community can look like. So, what does a walkable community that works for you look like? Is there truly no way for you to conveniently transport a rollator other than by car?

A walkable community that would work for me is one where cars are still in personal use without judgement from others. Yes, there is seriously no other way for me to conveniently transport my rollator than a car. I am not alone, a lot of disabled people are in similar boats. Some people need to travel with multiple mobility devices because they don't know which ones they will need when they get to where they're going. For a lot of us, this means we have to have things in our cars "just in case." So yes, there is seriously no other convenient way to do that than a car.

But the good news is that cars don't actually prevent sidewalks and greenways. You can have roads that are also walkable. I don't need to have imagination about what a walkable community could look like because there are walkable communities around me. I know, even in the big bad US... But my dad lives in a walkable neighborhood. He doesn't own a car because he's less than half a mile away from a shopping center, he lives next to multiple small scale apartment buildings, at the shopping center there are multiple mixed use buildings, there are 3 separate public transportation systems over there, and two different kinds of rentable electronic wheels (bike and scooter). All in the city Raleigh, NC, USA. That neighborhood has been walkable since I was a kid and we moved there. The political discourse surrounding "walkable cities," however, gets thrown out by local politicians desperate to add more "walkable" features to this neighborhood... And they've done so specifically to raise property values so that they can raise taxes and kick all the black and brown people out of the neighborhood. So I do, in fact, have a conception of what a walkable city that would be accessible to me looks like. I also have a conception of the various political issues surrounding with applying this online discourse to real life.

Instead of trying so hard to defend an online discourse that takes place in fictional worlds, lets talk about real life. This online discourse is completely disconnected from reality in ways that allow it to be used to create real-world harm. So lets add reality in it. Which means nuance.

Instead, you continue to insist that I treat you like an idiot. Don't you dare complain about my acqueiscense. The question, specifically, was how to transport a rollator with a moped. There was no mention of additional mobility aids. There was no statement whatsoever regarding the relative difficulty of operating a moped vs. a car. The parameters, simply, were to move a rollator with a moped. As presented, you seemed to think that this alone was an impossible scenario. It is not. Here is my answer:

"Instead of trying so hard to defend an online discourse that takes place in fictional worlds, lets talk about real life."

Yes. Like, for example, the real life where absolutely no one is advocating for zero cars anywhere ever, and the judgement you imagine people have for your use of a vehicle exists solely in your own head.

"A truly accessible walkable city will include cars and nonjudgement for using those cars."

I said that you have to have energy for that, and thus the dogmatic assertion that everyone should do that is ableist.

Your response is that people can do a big shop if they want. So I ask you what the original tweet asked: How do people do this in a world without cars?

And it does use less energy when you don't have to drive to get somewhere and can walk a block. If you want to do big shops, you still can, if you use a cart or cargo bike. I also never said cars should be banned in this post

Not everyone is the same.

I can appreciate that walking, even a block, is extremely difficult for some people. Are you able to appreciate that cars aren't the only form of locomotion invented by people? And that, in fact, a walkable city is more amenable to your disability, because mopeds can be parked a hell of a lot closer to the front entrance than a car, meaning you can do your chores and walk less.

To answer your honest question: I park in accessible parking, if there isn't any available I either do not go or I use my rollator to make frequent stops.

I'm not going to tell you what a rollator is, because I want to see if your ableist self can go look it up and then figure out how dumb you sound attempting to suggest that cars aren't important vehicles to add access.

At absolutely no point has anyone in the discussion mentioned zero cars, except for you. The original post only mentions it as "people who hate cars". I hate cars. I still recognize their value, while wishing I personally didn't need one. You can still have your car! I've been in a lot of walkable cities and communities. They all have cars! You can do the big shop if you want. Possibly, you will have to walk a little farther due to parking being more constrained. And this is a net negative for you specifically. Probably. Maybe your walkable community winds up like many of those in Florida, where golf carts are a perfectly fine way to get around. There are many options to consider!

Increased options for accessibility are a net good, even if those options don't suit yourself. You will always be ableist if you center only yourself and your own disabilities.

Cars add access, you are correct. This is, in fact, the entire point of them. No one denies this. The issue, is that city planning so heavily weighted towards folks with cars, only adds access for the people fortunate enough to afford them, at the expense of the folks who cant. On the balance, where do folks with disabilities tend to land?

All I have ever said is that this position, that cars are necessary for some people only ever shows up after the person speaking has tried to call a disabled person stupid. You all position us as morons and idiots for saying that our mobilities require cars, trying to prove that they don't and by the time we get to "some disabled people require cars for mobility," you all act like we were the ones who pretended that's not true. You exemplified that in your responses here.

Never ever said anything to the contrary. Only you did.

Why would I go out of my way to insult you by trying to explain what you can and can't do with your rollator? Moreover, why are you insisting that I patronize you in this manner? It seems like you would prefer me to be condescending over having a nuanced discussion about accessibility. Why is this? All I'm asking is for you to have a little imagination of what a walkable community can look like. So, what does a walkable community that works for you look like? Is there truly no way for you to conveniently transport a rollator other than by car?

I said that you have to have energy for that, and thus the dogmatic assertion that everyone should do that is ableist.

Your response is that people can do a big shop if they want. So I ask you what the original tweet asked: How do people do this in a world without cars?

And it does use less energy when you don't have to drive to get somewhere and can walk a block. If you want to do big shops, you still can, if you use a cart or cargo bike. I also never said cars should be banned in this post

Not everyone is the same.

I can appreciate that walking, even a block, is extremely difficult for some people. Are you able to appreciate that cars aren't the only form of locomotion invented by people? And that, in fact, a walkable city is more amenable to your disability, because mopeds can be parked a hell of a lot closer to the front entrance than a car, meaning you can do your chores and walk less.

To answer your honest question: I park in accessible parking, if there isn't any available I either do not go or I use my rollator to make frequent stops.

I'm not going to tell you what a rollator is, because I want to see if your ableist self can go look it up and then figure out how dumb you sound attempting to suggest that cars aren't important vehicles to add access.

At absolutely no point has anyone in the discussion mentioned zero cars, except for you. The original post only mentions it as "people who hate cars". I hate cars. I still recognize their value, while wishing I personally didn't need one. You can still have your car! I've been in a lot of walkable cities and communities. They all have cars! You can do the big shop if you want. Possibly, you will have to walk a little farther due to parking being more constrained. And this is a net negative for you specifically. Probably. Maybe your walkable community winds up like many of those in Florida, where golf carts are a perfectly fine way to get around. There are many options to consider!

Increased options for accessibility are a net good, even if those options don't suit yourself. You will always be ableist if you center only yourself and your own disabilities.

Cars add access, you are correct. This is, in fact, the entire point of them. No one denies this. The issue, is that city planning so heavily weighted towards folks with cars, only adds access for the people fortunate enough to afford them, at the expense of the folks who cant. On the balance, where do folks with disabilities tend to land?

their (live!) young gestate for. wait for it. eight to eighteen (??) YEARS. can have up to 10 at a time. good grief.

longest lifespan of any vertebrate, up to five hundred years

toxic flesh

has giant eyes but is usually blind because of a weird little crustacean that's evolved to live on and eat their eyes. this doesn't seem to bother them much.

lives in deep cold water and has the lowest swim speed and tail-beat frequency for its size across all fish species. just generally lives life in extreme slow motion

largest genome of any shark

eats everything including moose and polar bears

I said that you have to have energy for that, and thus the dogmatic assertion that everyone should do that is ableist.

Your response is that people can do a big shop if they want. So I ask you what the original tweet asked: How do people do this in a world without cars?

And it does use less energy when you don't have to drive to get somewhere and can walk a block. If you want to do big shops, you still can, if you use a cart or cargo bike. I also never said cars should be banned in this post

Not everyone is the same.

I can appreciate that walking, even a block, is extremely difficult for some people. Are you able to appreciate that cars aren't the only form of locomotion invented by people? And that, in fact, a walkable city is more amenable to your disability, because mopeds can be parked a hell of a lot closer to the front entrance than a car, meaning you can do your chores and walk less.

I said that you have to have energy for that, and thus the dogmatic assertion that everyone should do that is ableist.

Your response is that people can do a big shop if they want. So I ask you what the original tweet asked: How do people do this in a world without cars?

Do you genuinely believe that folks think literal actually proximity is some kind of magic spell that allows for more frequent shopping? Or, on average, is it that having things nearby means it takes less effort and energy to go to those things?

the second issue should be obvious but isnt: one of the central tenets of misogyny is that women are Irrational. this tenet underlies all aspects of patronizing oppression against women. “women cant be logical or rational, they are purely emotional and reactive” is a patriarchal myth that underlies misogyny in general. whenever a woman runs for president there is discourse about how you simply cant vote for her because shes going to nuke russia as soon as she gets her period. when we uncritically accept and perpetuate this belief, even upon ourselves, this is carrying water for patriarchal oppression. it isnt true, it has been debunked repeatedly in extensive scientific trials, and its just bottom floor, basement-level sexism. “girls cant be president because uterus make them crazy and weak.” believing this, perpetuating it, telling it to people, and thinking it about yourself is actively harmful