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We donāt directly experience absence
Lately, Iāve been thinking about how we donāt directly experience absence. We infer it from a lack of positive experience. Like, okay, right now I do not see, hear, taste, smell or feel anything that suggests thereās a crocodile in this room with me, so I conclude there isnāt one.Ā But Iām not directly experiencing the lack-of-a-crocodile.Ā And thereās a fucking infinite number of things right now which are absent, and Iām only gonna be thinking about the ones I have a reasonĀ to check for.Ā
Lately, Iāve been thinking about this in the context asexuality and how Iāve always felt really awkward and uncomfortable using that as an identity, even though itās...pretty accurate.
I used to think it was just that - especially if youāre in a relationship - it just felt needlessly personal. Like, I say that, and then for most people, itās just gonna pop in there like Stay Puft the Marshmallow Man - all the shit they now think they know about my sex life.Ā Ā
But itās more than just that. Asexuality leads toĀ active shared experiences of existing in a world that focuses heavily on something that doesnāt mean that much to you.Ā Ā
But asexuality itselfĀ is not a presence, itās an absence.Ā Itās not an active experience, itās the lack of one.Ā Itās just something thatās...not (often) going on. Youāre only aware of it when you have a reason to check whether itās there.Ā You donāt see a hot person and go,Ā āOh, Iām experiencing a lack of attraction!ā you see a hot person, it doesnāt occur to you that you shouldĀ be attracted to them, and then something happens to remind you that this is weird.Ā Ā
And you know what? Thatās not something I wanna claim as some foundational part of my identity.Ā I 100% appreciate that this is not universal, but I, personally, donāt want to spend time dissecting exactly where on a scale of grey I fall regarding this absence any more than I want to dissect the absence of my investment in sport.Ā Any more than I want to think about my house as the place that doesnātĀ have any crocodiles.Ā Ā
Asexuality may - in terms of etymology - refer to an absence, but the identity is constructed as a presence.Ā Itās an active identification with something that I just want it to be okay to give zero fucks about.Ā Ā
I donāt feel asexual. I just feel like I do not haveĀ a sexuality.Ā I donāt have one.Ā Or if I do, I have no idea what it is and I donāt care.Ā Ā
Our first photo of the cast of Wonder Woman 1984! (x)
In case anyone here wasnāt actually alive in 1984 and doesnāt see what theyāre doing thereā¦
[image transcription: a Welsh phrase saysĀ āafter the dragon had eaten Owen it went to Cardiffā]
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After the dragon had eaten Owen sheĀ went to Cardiff.
Hi, I have been following your blog for a while now and you are just cool and awesome and lovely and you blog is fantastic. I hope you had a wonderful Christmas and I wish you the best of luck in the new year.
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hi! do you mind explaining the tradition behind Mari Lywd?
I love this ask because itās such a polite way of going EXPLAIN THAT POST ELANOR
EXPLAIN YOURSELF
EXPLAIN YOUR PEOPLE
Iām not sure if youāre after the history of the thing, or the actual practice of it, sinceĀ ātraditionā could cover either - so, Iāll give you both, and hopefully your answer will be in here somewhere. I will also include more Frightening Images of the Mari Lwyd because you can never have too many horrifying photos of ornery skull-masked winter horse demons to scare the tits off you.
Okay, so. The Mari Lwyd.
Now, the first concrete recorded incidences of the Mari are from the late 1700s/early 1800s, but as with a lot of Welsh history, thatās misleading. We didnāt write a lot of our own shit like this down for much the same reason that Egypt never mentioned where to find Punt, and the English didnāt generally travel into Wales much if they could help it. Given that it seems to fold into a lot of other older traditions, though (the Hooded Animal, the Mast Beast, etc), and those have pre-Christian roots, I believe thereās a theory that it might have its roots in worshipping Rhiannon, the Welsh version of Epona, the pan-Celtic horse goddess. But thereās no way to be sure.Ā
The meaning of the name is disputed. Itās generally accepted to meanĀ āGrey Mareā. For a while some people thought it meantĀ āHoly/Blessed Maryā, as in, yāknow, the Virgin Mary, but this is no longer accepted because
āLlwydā means grey, not white, andĀ āgwenā is the colour normally used to also mean pure or holy; grey would be more likely to mean venerable/wise, which the Mari Lwyd aināt;
I think thereās reference toĀ āMariā being used forĀ āMaryā (instead ofĀ āMairā) in the Black Book of Carmarthen, so at least since the 14th century, but that was likely only by poets - thereās no record of common folk using it before the Protestants came and reformed everything, so it seems unlikely that it could have been the original name; and
As far as I am aware there is no record of the religio-historical figure of the Virgin Mary mounting the donkeyās head on a stick and hammering down the door to the inn with a half-empty bottle of gin in one hand while scream-singing insults at the innkeeper so heād give her cheese.
So, itās generally accepted now that the connotations with Christian Marian symbolism are part coincidence and part encouraged among the clergy post-Reformation so that everyone could keep getting blind drunk with a horseās skull and calling each other a willy. Plus, both Ireland and the Isle of Mann have very old hooded horse traditions too, called theĀ LĆ”ir BhĆ”n and theĀ Laare Vane in Irish and Manx respectively. Both meaning, surprise surprise, theĀ āwhite/grey mareā. Given that Wales and Ireland had a lot of historical interaction, this seems like more than coincidence.Ā
Plus, you know, it is kind of a grey mare. Bones are white.
It did have other names in some places, mind - I think Carmarthenshire had some weird name for it, like Y March or y Gynfas-Farch, but you mustnāt ever listen to people from West Wales because then there would we be? Calling woodlice āpennysawlsā and claiming the word āWiānā is an acceptable variation of the verb āto beā, thatās where.
Anyway. Once upon a time, this was seemingly a mid-winter celebration in Wales, which then became a Christmas celebration until the Church went āYouāre doing WHATā and it became New Year instead. But, it did vary when different villages would do it. Some would do it on New Year, some at Christmas, some in that weird week in between when you donāt know if the bins are going out or not⦠You get the idea. These days, itās New Year, as a rule.
Now, Europe does have a lot of varying traditions of doing this shit - google āmast beastā for exciting photos. But usually, the beast is made by someone bending over beneath the sheet to make it look, you know, like the beast theyāre mimicking. The Mari Lwyd stands out because, alone of all of them, she stands up straight, and is seven feet tall. She is the tallest of all the mast beasts. In a country where the average female height is 5'4", and men not much taller, that makes her fuck-damned enormous.
So, with that out of the way, let me tell you how it goes!
Traditionally, making the Mari is an important part of the whole thing - most villages would have a set skull theyād use, like, but the decoration was a week-long community affair, because as we all know, it would be creepy if you just stuck a skull on a pole oh my god. You have to put ribbons and glass eyes on it! That stops it being creepy! Obviously!
(Also, as a side note, battery-powered fairy lights have been a gift to the Mari Lwyd.)
The skulls, incidentally, were almost always from a beloved village horse who had at some point died at a ripe old age, and then whose skull was taken to live on as the Mari. Most villages knew their names, decades later. Down the Gower peninsula I think there was one account, mind, that they used to bury the skull for the rest of the year, and just dig it up in time for the Mari. But most kept it in a cupboard, like. Next to the sugar. I dunno. An important point, though - the skulls are also rigged so the person inside can snap the jaw, and incidentally, few things in this infinite and wondrous existence are as creepy and low-key primally unnerving as hearing ten of these things around you snapping in the dark, just btw, just fyi.
Anyway; youāve spent a week decorating! (Although these days theyāre kept pre-decorated.) What now?
The Mari party gathers at about midday. Thatās the Mari herself, plus others - it varies who, but classically, I think they dressed up as Punch and Judy characters, those being the mischievous comedy extravaganza of the day. Then they start at one end of the village and go to the first house, where they sing CĆ¢n y Fari. Thatās a bit like yelling āTrick or treatā, except rather than asking for sweets, theyāre after delicious alcohol and cheese (side note: Walesā relationship with cheese goes beyond Peak White Person and out the other side into What Is Wrong With You People. We have myths and folklore about it. It is Very Important.)
Now, the house holders do not want to give away their delicious alcohol and cheese, and so at this point, they begin something called the Pwnco (the āwā is pronounced like the āooā in ābookā, while the āoā is short like in āhotā.) The Pwnco is, like⦠sort of like a rap battle? But sung. But thatās the idea. Itās beautifully poetic, and almost always opens with the same very nice verse, to whit:
Wel dyma ni'n diwad (Well here we come)Gyfeillion diniwad (Innocent friends)I ofyn am gennad (To ask leave)I ofyn am gennad (To ask leave)I ofyn am gennad i ganu (To ask leave to sing)
which you can hear a bit of here; I filmed that in Llangynnwyd. But, itās very much a āSoās your FACEā type of thing. The householders tell the Mari to get straight to fuck, and then the Mari responds in kind. And they go back and forth until one side loses.
Now, if the Mari loses, she goes to the next house. But if the householders lose, they have to let her in and give her their delicious alcohol and cheese. IMPORTANT STEP, HOWEVER: if they have a bare ounce of sense between them, they first make her promise to behave before letting her past the door. Because if they donāt, HA HA all hell breaks loose, and the party do as much mischief as they can, like smearing ash on your walls and stealing your goats and mixing your white laundry in with your colours and hiding your drawing tablet pens. It is a Riot.
Anyway, once done, they leave the tattered ruins of your former house, go to the next house, and start again. More delicious alcohol and cheese!
It all got banned by the Welsh Non-Conformist Church of No Fun ever, because rival Mari parties would get blind drunk and then fight each other in the streets. It started to die out in the 50s, though some smaller villages kept it going - Llangynnwyd never even stopped. And in the last two decades itās started making a resurgence in places like Brecon, Llantrisant, etc - tonnes of places in the belt between Vale and mountains, really, which makes me think itās because the Folk Museum is in St Ffagans.Ā
But Chepstow do a modern twist - the town is right on the border with England, so they do a festival of Welsh Mari Lwyd and English morris dancing combined in mid-January each year. Turns out, every goddamn Mari in the country comes to it, too, which is why this year I got to see 24 Mari Lwyds. I had NO IDEA. So, so many Marisā¦
It also used to sometimes get mixed in with other festive cheese-begging traditions like Calennig, but it is pretty much separate. As a final question: why do it? Well⦠we dunno. The purpose of the uppity skeletal horse beast is unknown at this point. Like I say, it may well have been a Rhiannon thing; given the way it got folded into some Christian things post-Reformation, it may have absorbed some form of fleeing-on-a-donkey-to-give-birth stuff. Itās hard to even nail down distribution patterns. But, something I find interesting about its distribution is that it was predominantly done in areas that either mined, smelted or sold minerals a lot. Make of that what you will.
And, thatās the Mari Lwyd.
DIOLCH r'on i'n sicr fod o'n digwydd dros y flwyddyn newydd ond mae'r we wastad yn colli shit dros y peth adeg dolig. BUDDUGOLIAETH!
(vindication! i knew i saw this fucker at new year not christmas, in contavention of the popular meme timings!)
Old Vid Recs (2002-2012)
(This post is also on Pillowfort! If you want to comment, thatās prob the best place to have a conversation about this. Otherwise, feel free to like/reblog.)
This is not going to be comprehensive. Just be aware of that. This is going to be pulls from the shoddy memory of a nearly-30something fanperson, and will be a mess. But I really desperately love all the vids Iām gonna talk about below and I highly suggest checking them out.
EVERYTHING ABSOLUTEDESTINY EVER DID. This person started in AMVs and then transitioned to Live Action vids and was a fucking powerhouse of both. Probably the most straight up ingenious vidder with concept and execution. A lot of my favorites are more of a comedic slant, but goddamn he did everything. AbDest has all his shit on a fabulous website, and you can save videos with a right-click it looks like! Here, see!
āToo Much Light In This Barā - Life On Mars - 2006. Incredible thematic summary of set to a fucking weirdass āsongā that using some phenomenal editing to make beautiful hilarity. I can still see perfectly in my mindās eye the amazing bit at āDicko Sauve walksā NO WAITā swaggers into the room like a gunfighter with too many bulletsā and itās stupefying and brilliant. It is so strongly ingrained in my mind, I can recite the entire song and often mutter snippets of it to myself. (NOTE: Video has brief nudity and a lot of suggestive stuff, NSFW!)
āGold Diggerā - Gone With the Wind - 2007Ā (YouTube) I have a complicated relationship with this song (I mean itās Kanye so of course) and this is similarly a sort of complicated vid that does not make any absolute (lol) statements about Scarlett, but definitely hands you some interesting ideas. Also this remix of the song is a fucking banger and this is one of the finest character focus vids ever. Fucking amazing.
āShameless Rock Videoā - FLCL - 2002Ā (YouTube) I often wonder if Ian Roberts is tired of being known for this video, because I feel like any mention of his work demands a reference to SRV. But. Seeā¦ā¦ Itās a classic? Itās amazing? Itās transcendent. Itās perfect.
Charmax. My motherās favorite vidder. A very wide range but always thoughtful and devious in execution. A few faves:
āSeven Nation Armyā - Multifandom - 2009. āRainbow Coalition vs the fascist robots.ā There are some edits in this that I will never dislodge from my head, they are so ingrained in me. This fucking vid is like writ in my DNA.
āIām Your Manā - Multifandom - 2008. The Femslash Cliche Vid. God this hit me at such a formative time in my life and helped contextualize my own feelings about women, and Iāll always be grateful for it. Itās a celebration, and I love it.
āProtege Moiā - Supernatural - 2006.Ā GOD THIS IS ANCIENT BUT I STILL LOVE IT. Itās slightly Wincesty which I was a DeanCas person for the ten seconds I was in SPN but WHO CARES this video is so dense with style and some honest to fucking god Baroque-looking moments, itās still amazing. Only a touch over a minute long, entire in black and white and red, the way shadow and light move together is to this day incredible.
Luminosity. They created Scooby Road, one of the greatest pieces of transformative work. Itās the fucking Detective Pony of vidding.
āScooby Roadā - Buffy the Vampire Slayer - 2005. Guys. This is the entirety of the Beatles Abbey Road album set to Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Or, yanno, vice versa. I donāt know how to express the monumental work this is. I donāt. To me, this is a pinnacle. I have never watched Buffy myself, so thatās gonna sound extra weird, but this is just formative. Please watch it. Then, honest to god, go fucking read some of the commentary linked in the Fanlore article about it. Itās mandatory. Fuck. I would do some dark shit to get ahold of the DVD, ngl. boy, youāre gonna carry that weight, carry that weight a long time
obsessive24. I donāt know how justified the idea is, but there are times Iāve thought about O24ās stuff like fuckingā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦. Arthouse Fanvids, because they are often so fucking brave and devious and against the grain. Also their use of continuous motion in so of their vids gets me uh really revved up? Yeah.
āOMG!ā - Torchwood/Doctor Who - 2004. THAT SAID IāM GONNA REC A COMEDY ONE FIRST. God, so this is a cut of a then-newly-dropped Lily Allen song that appeared on the radio. So the DJ randomly ātalks over this to prevent bootleggers.ā And O24 reframes this as fuckign Torchwood interjecting into mainline Doctor Who and itās ingenious. I love it. I love this medium. I think my favorite part is that before the interjections start, itās already a great vid, and then the stupidity starts and itās just elevated. It will be a hot show. BYE IāM DYING. IāM GONE.
āCellsā - Fight Club - 2006. I think this was the first vid of O24ās I saw and I remember watching it about ten times in a row just trying to absorb it fully. Itās one of those moments of tremendous unity in song and source and editing. Astounding and hypnotic work. (NSFW for violence and nudity, obvs)
⦠a lot of others but youād be best looking at their site and judging for yourself what you wanna tackle. INCREDIBLE SHIT. VERY INTENSE. /ahem
Laura Shapiro. I was gonna just link one vid in the next section, the stand alone vids, but looking at her site it seems sheās made uh MANY of my all time faves! Okay! Youāll need this link to her site, as many of her vids arenāt available anywhere else. They are worth the download.
āMothershipā - Doctor Who - ?. My motherās favorite fanvid. Itās pure incandescent joy and has weirdly one of my all time favorite transitions/edits, at āitās more like a big ball of vibration and frequency.ā Something about it isā¦ā¦.. jubilant and perfect. Watching this vid is like treating yourself.
āGoody Two Shoesā - due South - ?. Ah yes. The Fraser Vid. This is not just the character set to music. Itās like having a lens tightened into place that finally makes Fraser come into focus. I would hazard to say this vid is why I watched due South (it was before my time, I had to buy the DVDs for RayV then pirate RayK, those were the days). Itās sweet and clever and itās got layers in itself, and the tongue is so firmly in cheek. Like rewatching thisā¦. this video feels like really intense innuendo, and an exercise in sexual frustration, between the Rays and Fraser, but also between the citizens of Chicago and Fraser. How the fuck donāt they strangle him? Oh right. Heās gorgeous. I mean, obviously
Astolat. If there was anyone who āneeds no introduction,ā itās fucking Astolat, who kicked off Vividcon and started Yuletide and who named the AO3. Like. Jesus christ. Their fanfic was goddamn influential in my life as a fanperson. Anyway. They did a lot of vidding too. Holy shit.
āZebraā - due South - 2005. Okay. I can definitively say I got into dS in 2005 because I got into it because of this video. Iām thirty seconds into a rewatch and I think Iām gonna have to go rewatch dS before the end of the year. Jesus fucking christ. Ray Kowalski was my Type before I knew I had a character type. But romantic tricksters with a tenuous grip on their own identity who will do anything for the Greater Good up to and including immoral actsā thatās this character, thatās this vid, and itās brilliant. This is a vid that clearly and coherently explains Ray Kowalski and sells you on an idea. Itās like a vid going āhey your first hit is free, now go buy all these fucking DVDs of this oldass show because you need more.ā Yeah, itās like that.
āPon de Replayā - Entourage - 2007. I have never seen Entourage. I can only assume these two dude get it on on the reg in that show. Itās the only acceptable reality. This is fun. This is a treat for yourself. And you should always treat yourself.
āBohemian Like Youā - Stargate: Atlantis - 2006. This is a must-watch for two reasons: 1. It looks so fuckign dated in a very particular way. The footage with the SciFi channel logo in the corner, the rapid slideshot intro/outro, a few odd moments. This video feels like a piece of an era that a lot of y'all do not know, and I want you to see it. 2. Itās still a fucking great vid with a lot of funny moments. There are so many cute and clever moments. I think my fave is the āno I havenāt heard your band but you guys are pretty newā and all the moments of Shepard being kind of a clumsy fuck? I love it. Itās endearing. Go try it.
Some loose single-vid recs
āWelcome To The Jungleā - Hot Fuzz - Danegen, 2007. I cannot fucking believe the mediafire link still works, holy fucking shit. There are times I think this might be my favorite vid. Itās perfection. It encapsulates everything Hot Fuzz is about and goes hard as hell and is a delight to watch every time. Just. /chefās kiss
āTonight Iām Fucking Youā - XMen First Class - kuwdora, 2011. Look Iām not sure this is a pinnacle of any vidding artform but itās deliriously fun and cheeky and itās been SEVEN YEARS and I remember it, that has to mean something doesnāt it? God itās so well-done, I adore it. That year after XMFC came out was a rodeo. (Also that soulful little moment at ābaby youād be the truthā i fucking DIE LAUGHING EVERY TIME. A THE LUDACRIS GUEST VERSE. Fffffuck. Actually I take it back, maybe this i the pinnacle of something. <3)
āMachineā - Mass Effect - beccatoria, 2012. THIS VID IS A MARVEL. Taking the disjointed confused themes and narrative of the Mass Effect Trilogy and drawing out such a remarkable cohesion is a miracle in of itself, but the depth of storytelling here boggles my fucking mind. Shepard set up as a reluctant transhumanist messiah and the direct parallel in scope and power to the Reapers is a more fascinating narrative than Bioware ever imagined telling. This is a STORY. Watch it.
āTime To Beginā - Community - atsp88, 2012. Hey look itās everything wonderful and heartfelt and optimistic and loving about Community in a single video. Brisk and cathartic and lovely, a true ensemble piece that to me feels like a pitch to embrace compassion.
ā"Whiteā & Nerdy" - Psych - talitha78, 2009. Equal parts commentary and ballinā fun, I fucking adore this vid. When i think about how meta has largely moved to written essay form and away from vidform (not that it was the only form of meta obvsly) this is the kind of thing I miss. Insightful and colorful and loving. A+++ There is something about this style of interacting with the canon that I like. Itās a critique. Itās interesting to see a combination of constructive and deconstructive meshed together.
āWorking Class Heroā - Firefly/Serenity - bradcpu, 2007. Imagine being 17 and coming into adulthood and seeing this shit. Formative. In a way I feel like this is a sort of inversion of a fanvid. Itās less applying music to the source and more applying the source to the music, if that even remotely makes sense. The message of the song is lifted and heightened by the careful application of familiar imagery.
āHandlebarsā - Doctor Who - Flummery, 2008. I cannot make someone understand the atomic explosion of this vid. You have to understand, this came WELL before we knew the conclusion of Tenās arc, and it called all of it. Itās best explained by the Fanlore article on it. I could literally go shot by shot on the brilliance of this video and itās terrifying dark apotheosis of Ten. The split second nervous sideeye of Madame du Pompadour. Rose silently calling out to Ten outside his vision. The fucking long drop zoom shot of āmy cause is noble, my power is pure,ā the repeated application of ramped up Messianic imagery, the moment when Ten just fuckign slams the camera and it goes black for a half-beat, and the way is comes back with āit feels so good to be alive and on topā and Tenās fucking face. And the terrifying recontextualization of Ten snapping his finger to open the TARDIS, from happy ending to harbinger of doom. Absolute. Fucking. Masterpiece.
āPavlovās Bellā - due South - butterfly, 2006. Uh. I donāt know how to talk about this video. i donāt even know if it belongs in this post, honestly. But I feel like Iāve been haunted by this vid for at this point a large chunk of my life. Iām honestly just astounded and relieved itās still available for download. Formative. Yeah. Really intensely bedrock formative. /coughs and wipes eyes. Man, dusty in here huh.
Thatās all. Happy viewing. Reblogs are fine. Please feel free to hit me up to discuss this shit. I am fuckdeep in nostalgia.
So this is difficult for me to write, because I am genuinely honoured to be included in a list of such fabulous vids and vidders, and because so much of what the reccer writes about my vid - Machine - is lovely.Ā I honestly believe it is one of the best, if not the best vid I have ever made.Ā I do not want to tarnish an attempt to share that.Ā
But I feel uncomfortable knowing this exists without objecting to the framing. I was not fixing Mass Effectās canon, I was explaining how I saw it. I do not consider it a cohesion or a story that I worked to create; I was just vidding my genuine experience of the game.Ā Though, yes, an experience framed by being a nerdy transhumanist fangirl whose first priority was to Make Legion My Best Friend...Ā
I know that a lot of people disagree with me, and I see the genuine value of explaining in the rec that you liked my video even though you disliked a lot of what Bioware ended up doing with the story.Ā (And thatās also something I really appreciate and am pleased to know).Ā Ā
But these games* and this vid are really personally important to me, and...I donāt want to see one used to tear down the other.Ā Ā
*except Andromeda. Tear that fucker down all you like.
VidUKon 2019 Premiere: America [Mass Effect: Andromeda]
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moar vids here.Ā
Universal translatorās been invaded by a virus!
Bonus:
OH MY GOD THAT WAS WELSH. THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WELSH. THAT WAS THE WORST WELSH I HAVE EVER HEARD.Ā Ā
Like, I spent the first few times I listened to it convinced this gifset was wroooooong because that couldnāt possibly be Welsh.Ā
But now, nope, I kinda hear it.Ā
Bless you Disco, but like...get someone to help your poor actors.Ā I realise that the chances of you ever having anyone speak Welsh ever again are VERY SLIM, but please, hit me up, I will send you an audio recording.Ā There are many, many people here who would happily send you an audio recording.
That was literally unintelligible.
O.o
I was a security guard at a major art museum
Over the course of my time there: -A woman came in with a skirt made of neckties. Just. Neckties, all strung together to make a skirt. She had leggings on underneath, thank god. -Been asked for the Mona Lisa -Been asked for the Sistine Chapel -Been asked where the dinosaurs are -Been asked where the animals are -Been asked for āThe Bitch With The Pitcherā (Vermeerās āWoman with a Water Pitcher,ā by the way)
-Been asked for āThe Girl With The Pearl Earringā
-Been asked for the Mona Lisa
-Got bored and learned the name of every single one of the Buddhas
-Got bored and learned the name of five Chinese dynasties (long day in Asian Art)
-Chilled in the Buddha room
-Watched someone escorted out for trying to take a nude photo in the Arms and Armor section
-Been asked for the Michelangeloās, then the Raphaelās, then the Leonardoās, then the Donatelloās (they were naming ninja turtles) -Heard curator in Musical Instrument section play Night On Bald Mountain on giant historical pipe organ while laughing maniacally.
-Fielded a day when a filthy counterfit version of the museum program was disseminated among visitors, guiding them to the filthiest art in the museum ā such as the painting of Cupid peeing on Venus
-guarded Cupid peeing on Venus
-Been asked for the Mona Lisa
-Been asked if I had seen the First Lady of Mexico (she had gone missing)
-Been asked for that one sculpture of Kronos that is featured in Percy Jackson WHICH DOESNāT EXIST GUYS (directed children to sculptures of Poseidon with trident instead, children were very happy)
-Witnessed two Secret Service Agents get into a swordfight with pieces of packing material.
-been asked by a very polite Fransiscan monk in full brown robes if he had found āOne of us. He has gone missing.ā -Found missing monk and returned him to the herd
-Coworker was asked for the Ark of the Convenant
-Same coworker was asked for the Baseball Hall of Fame
-stopped about 15,000 people from poking that one lion statue in the nuts -saw a woman in a banana suit with banana shoes take a picture in front of an Egyptian temple
-Been asked for the Mona Lisas (plural)Ā
Iāve got more but this is what I remember for now.
I would have paid money to witness the Night on Bald Mountain incident.
hard same
Based on the Egyptian Temple comment, was this 1) in NYC, 2) a fair while ago and 3) was the curatorās name Laurie?Ā Because Laurie would 100% have done that.

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CONFESSION:
I know this shouldnāt bother me, but it does. At the speed of light, it would take the Arcs 2.5 million years to get to Andromeda. FTL means faster than light travel, I know, but they didnāt use relays to get through dark space so HOW could they travel faster than light without using wormholes (which Iām assuming relays create)? You just canāt. Weād be obliterated down to the atomic level. Also what bothers me is that relativity isnāt a *thing*. If it took 600 odd years to get to Andromeda going that fast, then time would slow down for those onboard relative to time in Andromeda. So it hasnāt been 600 years since the scourge. Itās been likeā¦.a lot more. Like I said, I know this really shouldnāt bother me because of all the other crazy stuff in Mass Effect, but itās the one thing I canāt suspend disbelief for.
Iām angry that I canāt! I know they say mass effect cores in ships use element zero (aka crazy space magic) to explain why time dilation doesnāt happen because something something less mass less gravity, but thatās absolute bullshit! You canāt just change physics! How you gonna change the mass of a living thing? How does no one die from this? I think about it every time the Normandy or the Tempest jumps to another star system and then travels super fast between planets. From, say, the Nexus to Kadara, Reyes would be dead from old age and Ryder would be a puddle. āMass Effect: Everyone Dies Before They Even Get Started Because You Canāt Escape Physicsā.
But like you said, there IS an in-universe explanation re: the mass effect field and eezo cores.Ā Honestly itās a much better explanation than most bullshit space magic explanations.Ā They essentially created one mass-changing scifi feature and hung most of their space magic bullshit off this single thing.Ā Ā
Also gravity, mass and time all affect each other.Ā So while it obviously isnāt going to hold water from a hardcore physics perspective, it honestly addresses a lot more than Star Trek, for instance.
I mean, if nothing else, the entire freaking franchise is names after this effect.Ā Itās not like itās not being upfront.
Confession:Ā I wish that weād gotten to explore cybernetics a little more in Mass Effect. I know that itās not really the point of the series, but people in the future donāt need to be all meat all of the time.
1) Me too!
2) It also...literally does end up being the point of the series though?Ā
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soooooooo this is happening in my life, hi
I have a persistent problem with Andromeda that I canāt really fix the way I usually do, because I also have a glaring lack of knowledge in the subjects Iād need knowledge on in order to do it effectively
and that problem is the way the Milky Way species just kinda⦠barge into the galaxy like conquistadors
what I want is for the Initiative to have attempted some sort of contact with Andromeda beforehand ā if not long-distance contact, then maybe a set of recon-type missions where they stuck their heads into the galaxy to see what-all was around. in the process, they meet the angara and other native sapient species (mighty convenient that thereās only one native sapient species ingame ā assuming the kett are from elsewhere ā innit) and kinda just⦠begin a dialogue.Ā āhey, weāre humanity, the turians, the salarians, etc. weāre thinking about branching out. how do you guys feel about thatā
and for the sake of the story, say the angara agree to help, but they have some concerns and boundaries. an agreement is drawn up ā the Andromeda Accords, say. now the real work begins. learning about the native non-sapient species to various planets, learning new systems of biodiversity, learning how to minimise the Milky Way footprint on this new galaxy. hereās where my glaring lack of knowledge in scientific matters trips me up, but I like daydreaming about it anyway.
by the time the Arks are actually deployed, the only actual barrier is the unforeseen threat of the Scourge and the kett invasion. in which case itās a lot easier to get everyone working together when the angara already know us, and know we are not invaders.
knocks about half the canon storyline right out of relevance, which probably is no great crime, but also⦠Iām just tired of humans barging in on everything and taking it over and then acting wounded when people donāt automatically trust that they have their best interests at heart. if I were angaran I wouldnāt trust the canon Initiative for a fucking second wtf
thank god iām not the only one who hates this. i really donāt understand why no one ever seems to bring it up. the initiativeās behaviour is legitimately shocking. like TO START WITH they exile their criminals to worlds they know are already populated and low on resources, effectively unleashing a crime wave on the native population! and thatās without even touching the grossness of claiming Meridian at the end. :/
Thereās one major problem, itās that there was no sign of anything alive at the moment of departure. The Angara, the cloud, the Remnants, the Ketts, there was nothing but fertile planet devoid of advanced civilization.
I completely agree that their actions once arrived were very colonialist, but they also were done in extreme circumstances by incompetent people, and I donāt think it had been made abundantly clear.
Andromeda condemns colonialism as every actions, such as unleashing a crime wave or mistreating the locals, are shown to be evil. While the diplomatic decisions during the game are made out of necessity, the choice at the end truly determine which path you want Andromeda to go. And if you choose the Angara way, the sucker in chief protest at the prospect of losing power and control is quickly shut down by a āThatās the point!ā from the one responsible for colonization.
Yeah, likeā¦none of that makes it better?Ā Their scans from another galaxy might have suggested that it was uninhabited, but, like, these are dicey scans from far away, and even if they are accurate, they know itās gonna take hundreds of yearsĀ to get there and who knows whatāll happen in between.Ā Ā
So okay, fine, whatās done is done, and even if the colonists shouldĀ have understood the dodgy proposition of heading out in the hopesĀ it was claimable land, people donāt always react as theyād like under stress.Ā Fine.Ā But then we get to the point - the Initiative totally fucked upĀ and behaved in ways that made their incompetence abundantly clear.Ā Ā
Then Ryder shows up, starts wandering around promoting this utterly incompetent organisation.Ā There is never any leadership change.Ā You canāt fire the people responsible for this clusterfuck.Ā And honestly, Ryder isnāt even qualified for the position of Pathfinder - itās ludicrous nepotism.Ā She wanders around writing checks she canāt cash in terms of convincing the natives to trust the Initiative.Ā Ā
Like, at NO POINT in that game does Ryder issue a formal apology for unleashing the crime wave or take ANY responsibility from the Initiativeās perspective.Ā Yeah, she shows up and tries to take some practical steps towards fixing shit, but who ends up in charge on Kadara? Either Sloane or Reyes.Ā Not a fucking Angaran, for sure.Ā Ā
And if weāre gonna talk about the shit at the end, omfg.Ā Letās break it down.Ā Without consulting a single angaran, the Initiative decides on the political structure of the entire cluster and tells Ryder to appoint someone as its representative.Ā IfĀ Ryder chooses an Angaran (which is by no means something the player has to do, itās a wide open multiple choice situation here), the game pipes up to remind you that you donāt haveĀ to do that.Ā If you persist, then Director Tann makes a snarky comment and sure, you get thatĀ āThatās the point, you colonialist ass!ā remark.Ā Ā
Which, tbh, pissed me the hell off, because the game had been nothing BUT screaming colonialism from start to finish, but lol, look, we kindly threw the natives a bone, letās all pat ourselves on the back.Ā Ā
Itās really patronising, condescending and indicative of the paternalisticĀ ābut weāre HELPING!ā colonialism that alsoĀ infects this game regarding the angara.Ā Like, because the kett are there to represent this aggressive colonising force - literally colonising bodies - the Initiative get a pass for their past actions because they can help in the present, and the game gets a pass for its REALLY SUPER paternalistic writing.Ā Ā
The Initiative show up and quickly render the angara dependent on them for 1) military defense against the kett, 2) ecological survival, because it takes the Initiative twenty minutes to fix the ancient technology that the angara had been puzzling over for years, (with bonus overtones of literally taming the land) and 3) information on their own fucking genesis.Ā Ā
The human arc crash lands on Meridian, the planet where the angara were LITERALLY CREATED, and declare it their new homeworld.Ā An email in a terminal you can read after the end of the game makes it clear the angara are desperate for access to this world, but itās okay guys, the Initiative are happy toĀ āhostā them.Ā FUCKING HOST THEM. ON THEIR OWN HOMEWORLD. WHICH WE HAVE STOLEN.Ā Ā
Plus, weāve reactived the terraforming network, right? Which means, the Initiative now has the means to turn it off, wreaking ecological disaster on anyone who doesnāt fall in line.Ā Remember what Director Tann did to the Krogan?Ā Do we trust him with that power?Ā I fucking donāt.Ā But I canāt fire him.Ā Iām just allowed to go around the galaxy cleaning up his diplomatic fuck ups as if I can promise anyone any level of safety or respect.Ā Which I canāt.Ā Ā
Seriously, this game paints the thinnest veneer ofĀ ācolonialism is bad, mākay?ā over what is actually just a series of demands for automatic second chances, and lazy writing that sets upĀ ācivilisedā saviours.Ā Ā
I absolutely LOVE the Mass Effect franchise.Ā I wanted to love Andromeda.Ā I liked quite a few of the characters and the game play, and I legit went into it expecting it to be more colonialist than I was comfortable with.Ā But WOW, did I not expect the clusterfuck we got.Ā Ā
The weirdest thing is they would have fixed SO MANY of their problems if it had just been a refugee convoy, launching in desperation.Ā That would have explained the bad behaviour due to trauma and desperation, would have meant that I had more sympathy for the explorers in the first place, etc.Ā Ā
As it is, it just feels like the Initiative launched thousands of Conrad Verners and a few Udinas at Andromeda and called it a day.Ā *sigh*
I agree with some points, and not with others.
The idea that in 600 years a civilization could pop up is really, really thin. While they took a risk going all in, they certainly did not have cause to progress diplomatically, because there was no sign of anyone. Plus, if all had gone according to plan, the Nexus would have had enough resources to create a true diplomatic effort on the ground.
For the events during the game, I agree that many things could have gone better, but the fact that everyone is in an all out war with a seemingly impossible to beat enemy forces relationships to happens fast. The situation on the Acid planet is completely unfair to the native Angara, however itās the only place where itās the case and Ryder do not have the time to negotiate further than who is the next kingpin. Nexus is trying to survive, and not in position to impose anything to anyone, only to call in favors and hope for goodwill.
Now, the fact that the Initiatives arrives to solve everything of the Angara STINKS. It reeks of white savior and is really, really bad taste. I think the worst part is the decyphering of Remnant technology, something the Angara were designed to do (although we donāt know if the design was finished), and can do only at great cost. Ryder, and by extension the Initiative, solves it instantly better than the Angara could ever have done.
The fact that the Initiative is better equipped against the Kett is not problem in my opinion. Not only is it regularly said that they heavily rely on Angara soldiers, the fact that they leaped through galaxy justifies the technological advantage.
The thing at the end is indeed patronizing, however it is justified. The Initiative IS in a position of power. They have all the cards by the end of the game, and it is THEIR decision that will influence the future. Yes, thatās unfair. No, I donāt believe itās not a promotion or a glorification of colonization, not until we see the results of said choice. I think thatās even the point, for cooperation to happen you must abandon power in order to be equal to your peers. Equality isnāt something that happens naturally, it must be enforced. If you happens to have the power, you must discard it, but the fact is that you have the power and not the others.
If anything, Andromeda dodge the heavy stuff by being in a permanent state of emergency. Both the war against the Kett and the need for Nexus survival justify a lot of harsh or rash decisions. I wish you could fire the authorities, or mount a coup, however it would destabilize the structure and the Nexus is absolutly not in position to resists that at the moment. Itās after the dust has settles that the real problems should be addressed. That the commentary on colonization should really start.
The horrors of colonization didnāt happen when people arrived stranded, with no resources and unable to go back. They began when the colonizers had established themselves enough to overrun the locals while it was perfectly avoidable.
Okay, so like, point by point:Ā
1) 600 years and civilisation.Ā
Iām still unconvinced that new tech allowing low res scans should really be proof of anything, and 600 years is a really freaking long time.Ā 600 years before Mass Effect, Earth was a one-planet civilisation who didnāt understand electricity, but if someone had shown up claiming Mars because they had some low res scans from another galaxy, I doubt theyād have been pleased?Ā Or maybe it was the galactic equivalent of a national park.Ā The point is they donāt fucking know.Ā They have no idea whatās going to await them, and the thrill of discovery is, in part, the point.Ā Thereās a huge difference between a refugee (who has no choice but to immigrate to another land and asserts a moral right to do so as a humanitarian matter) and an explorer, whoās just there out of curiosity.Ā Who choseĀ to go there.Ā If you choose to go somewhere but youāre willing to defend your right to be there with guns (as the Initiative clearly are), then you are an invader.Ā
Bottom line, the Initiative may not have wantedĀ to take the land by force, but they were clearly headed there with a willingness to do so if necessary.Ā Ā
If you sell your house because you thought you could move into an abandoned warehouse but get there to find your information was out of date, and the warehouse had been sold to someone, who had already moved in, and your response is,Ā āBut Iāve already sold my house, get the fuck out, Iām taking this because Iāve nowhere else to go,ā youāre still an assholeĀ and the situation is still one of your making.Ā Ā
As to launching a better diplomatic initiative if things had gone better, wellā¦Iām not sure thatās true.Ā The ambassador you send to the Angaran homeworld is a sociologist who remarks on the fact sheās having to make-do with her skillset.Ā I can only assume because the Initiativeā¦didnāt bring any diplomats or ambassadors, or people skilled in early contact situations? Which seems outstandingly stupid, butā¦Iām not sure what else to make of it.Ā Ā
2) Crisis trumps ethics.Ā
I mean, yeah, sure, in many practical ways it does.Ā But the game itself doesnāt engage with the ways in which the Initiative actively causedĀ some parts of the crisis itās trying to fix.Ā Ryder doesnāt show up horrified that Tannās leadership has caused this, Ryder shows up and acts like the Initiative are some Totally Different group to the Exiles.Ā Which is justā¦bullshit.Ā And really dissonant for me as a player.Ā Ā
Also, using a crisis as an excuse for a power grab doesnāt make it any less of a power grab.Ā Ā
Ryder didnātĀ have time to properly sort out Kadaraās leadership or reinstall an Angaran leadership structure, no.Ā But likeā¦that doesnāt make it okay, and it doesnāt make the fact the game spends no time on that ethical point okay.Ā Ā
3) Technology & saviourism
Yeah, we agree here.Ā :)
4) Military superiority
Yeah, I think in isolation this would be fine.Ā Like, the fact that the Initiative are better equipped to fight the kett, etc., I donāt think that would automatically be a colonialist issue in the narrative.Ā But withĀ all the rest, itās just one more way the Angara are at the Initiativeās mercy and dependent on them for help.Ā Ā
5) Might make right? Colonialism or not?
Iām not actually sure I understand what youāre saying here, but I thinkĀ youāre saying that, because the Initiative are more powerful than the Angara andĀ āhold all the cardsā, they have the right to make decisions for them, to occupy their homeworld and make unilateral decisions about the political structure of the cluster and the direction of the future.Ā And that while this isnāt fair, it isnāt colonialist either?
I meanā¦I just straight up think thatās completely wrong.Ā Thatās lunch money bully territory, and itās absolutelyĀ colonialist.Ā Ā
Like, you say that colonialism didnāt happen when people were stranded with no resources, but when they were established enough to overrun the local population, which is true.Ā But the ability to overrun the local population isnātĀ predicated on the ability to reinforce from a parent population if you bring that many people and enough resources with you.Ā The Initiative areĀ already overrunning and killing the local population, they areĀ already taking over their territory, and imposing their culture on the culture that was there before (as evidenced by the final decision to impose their political culture on the whole cluster).Ā Ā
So like, again, I just straight up think youāre wrong.Ā Ā
I also donāt think that the writing is at all self-aware when it comes to these problems.
So, point by point
1) The value of 600 years
Humanity history is around 300 000 years, probably more. The planet is 4 500 000 000 years. The probability that anything intelligent develops withing the span of 600 years is ridiculously small, and weāre not even talking about the possibility than a habitable planet could develop intelligent life.
As for a diplomatic solution having been planned, I have no doubt. No only does the Nexus has a place for alien species to discover the Milky way, there is the fact that most higher ups dies in the first minutes. This included the ambassadors and their attachĆ©, I have little doubt about it. Although, I admit, itās speculation, I just would find strange to have a building for alien life, scientists for alien life, explorers for alien life, but no diplomats.
2) The feeling of control over the event and a clear position.
I agree that on Kadara, the morality of the situation is left ambiguous. However, it is not on the other planets. On Voeld, establishing an outpost without the authorization of the Angara provokes tensions, and settling Havarl is just impossible.
I also agree that treating the Exile as a different group feels strange, but Ryder is right in the sense that the Exile do not obey the Nexus nor does their action represent the Initiative. Their very existence IS on the Initiative, but I can understand Ryderās point of view. Besides, as a player, you can try to enforce that distance or try to reunite as many as you can, although those are minor choices.
3) Well, nothing to say.
4) Military dependency.
I think itās more a matter of perspective. The fact is that the Initiative is a force that could turns the table, so yes the Angara are dependent on them. But the other way is true too, as the Initiative was completely at the mercy of the Kett before Ryder appeared and made things official with the Angara.
I like the idea of seeing more Angaran in action against the Kett, rather than being told so by the various NPC and codex entries though.
5) Might is not right, but power is power
What I am saying is that, by the end of the game, the Initiative does have the power, they can decide for others. Not because it is right, or justified, but because they have the power. Yes, they can act like bullies with it, yes they can abuse that power, or they can share it. Or rather, you can make the decision, as the player, that this power should be shared.
There is a difference between having the legitimacy to do something and the power to do something. Here, the Initiative had the power and zero legitimacy. What to do with that power is at the playerās whim.
And as you said, it is the final decision that decides if Andromeda is going to colonize the cluster or not, not the game. It is unfair to say that they are killing the population as they have no particular will to do so and kill their own in equal number, and ketts in even more. The only two Angara places one can say they take territory of is Kadara, which is a mess that should be resolved as soon as possible, and possible Voed if you decide to settle before asking permission, which is again the playerās choice and results in tensions.
So I donāt think Iām wrong when I say that the game does not promote nor glorify colonialism. I agree that some events and perspective are shady at best, and that others are clearly taking a stand against such behaviors. The most influential events for or against colonialism are decided by the player, and only a sequel would tell the moral of that story.
At this point, I think there are two main areas where we disagree.Ā Ā
1) Inhabitation.Ā
Iām unconvinced that low-res extra galactic scans would provide information on low-tech societies, to be honest, and also I wasnāt talking about EarthĀ being inhabited, but rather the sudden expansion and colonisation of neighbouring planets by humans during a hundred year span of the Mass Effect timeline.Ā Like, if someone had scanned MarsĀ six hundred years ago, it wouldāve been uninhabited, but thatās no longer the case by ME1.Ā Ā
But honestly, I think weāre splitting hairs at this point.Ā I doĀ agree that, mathematically and logically, most of the universe is empty, and assuming these planets could well be empty also is logical.Ā
However, they made a cultural centre.Ā They were hopingĀ to find other life out there.Ā They also had to know that it was possibleĀ they would arrive to find a civilisation already living there.Ā Ā
So they either chose not to plan for that possibility, which makes them incompetent, or they planned by then didnāt follow through on the plan because of stress and fear, which is more understandable but still basically makes them incompetent because they freak out and fuck everything up when it gets hard.Ā Or, they planned and the plan wasĀ āOkay, in that case, we just invade.āĀ Which is...fucked up in a different way.Ā Ā
The point is, as soon as things didnāt go perfectly they went to pieces.Ā And sure, they were civilians, not military.Ā But if youāre going to launch yourself to another galaxy with no hope of return based on low-res surveys and hope, and youāre notĀ prepared for it to be really hard and potentially fatal, I will think youāre stupidĀ and probably shouldnāt have been let through the psych screening to join that type of expedition.Ā
And...thatās the problem.Ā Thatās the reason thatĀ ābut they thought it was empty!ā doesnāt really make any of this any better.Ā Because the moment they find out it isnātĀ empty, they react in awful, incompetent, and straight up stupid ways.Ā Ā
This entire game makes the Initiative look incompetent at best, andĀ āthey only enacted colonialism cus they were idiots, not because they were malevolentā still isnāt a great look.Ā Ā
2) The gameās presentation of colonialism as evil
So, to start, I agree that roleplaying games should allow the player to make a variety of choices, some of them evil.Ā Something being an option in the game does notĀ mean that the game is endorsing the choice.Ā Ā
But I donāt think that they choices around colonialism in this game are well-presented or contextualised.Ā Ā
For example, in Dragon Age: Inquisition, the Inquisition is closely aligned with the Chantry - a colonising force, especially with regards to the Elves.Ā However, itās possible to play that game and express that concern about the premise of the Inquisition, to roundly criticise the Chantry, and to enact radical reform by installing Leliana as the new head of the church.Ā Ā
There are no similar opportunities in Andromeda.Ā We cannot replace Director Tann.Ā We canāt question whether we had the right to come to Andromeda in the first place.Ā We canāt give Meridian back to the Angara.Ā Ā
The game draws a very clear line betweenĀ āviolent, badā colonialism (forcibly taking land and resources, etc.), andĀ ānice, kindā colonialism (paternalism, coming in and making decisions because youĀ āknow betterā and are superior, etc.)Ā Ā
āViolentā colonialism is at least treated as wrong on a superficial level.Ā I canāt say that itās treated as evil on a deeper level because the game doesnāt allow for the Initiative to take any responsibility for the Exiles and their crimes.Ā Ā
ButĀ āhelpfulā colonialism isnāt questioned in any way.Ā Itās unambiguously presented as acceptable, genuinely helpful, and morally good.Ā There is no textual criticism.Ā Ā
This is a problem because these types of colonialism arenāt clearly and distinctly separated.Ā They are different points on a scale of behaviour.Ā Ā
As a textual example, Iād offer the final choice of Heleus Representative.Ā The game will give a pat on the back and a thumbs up for choosing an angaran - look, arenāt we so ethically great!Ā But it doesnāt particularly criticise you for choosing anyone else.Ā But, most tellingly, you cannotĀ question the fact you are imposing a political structure thatās convenient for youĀ and your cultureĀ on a whole species.Ā ThatĀ is the colonialist act.Ā What if the political structure of the Milky Way negatively impacts on the angara for reasons we cannot yet predict (or didnāt bother trying to predict)?Ā Utterly changing the governance structure of an entire culture is huge, and could have huge impacts on society.Ā Ā
But the game hides this.Ā It acts as though your responsibility is to allow the natives a chance to participate in the culture you are imposing, and thatĀ is the ethical choice, not, you know, not imposing the culture in the first place.Ā Ā
Iām also not certain that the Initiative canĀ claim not to be killing the native population.Ā The Exiles, obviously, have already caused bloodshed.Ā But the game also offers you no choice but to slaughter the Roekkar.Ā Yes, they are paranoid because of their experiences with the kett, but we have no option to pursue diplomacy via the angara who WILL talk to us.Ā We arenāt allowed to stay out of their territory until they allow us entry.Ā We donāt even bother trying diplomatic entreaties.Ā The game just...makes us shoot them or we canāt progress.Ā Ā
The biggest colonial decisions are notĀ ones made by the player.Ā The player canāt cede Meridian to the angara, refuse to enforce a milky way political structure, refuse to engage the angara or properly begin a process of reparations for the behaviour of the Exiles.Ā All these things would have let me feel I was, in some way, contributing towards a more positive future.Ā Ā
I agree that a future game would show the fall out, but thisĀ game makes it clear that the relationship between the Iniative and the angara will be paternalistic and colonialist, even if not violentlyĀ so.Ā And to me, thatās still gross.Ā Ā
I have a persistent problem with Andromeda that I canāt really fix the way I usually do, because I also have a glaring lack of knowledge in the subjects Iād need knowledge on in order to do it effectively
and that problem is the way the Milky Way species just kinda⦠barge into the galaxy like conquistadors
what I want is for the Initiative to have attempted some sort of contact with Andromeda beforehand ā if not long-distance contact, then maybe a set of recon-type missions where they stuck their heads into the galaxy to see what-all was around. in the process, they meet the angara and other native sapient species (mighty convenient that thereās only one native sapient species ingame ā assuming the kett are from elsewhere ā innit) and kinda just⦠begin a dialogue.Ā āhey, weāre humanity, the turians, the salarians, etc. weāre thinking about branching out. how do you guys feel about thatā
and for the sake of the story, say the angara agree to help, but they have some concerns and boundaries. an agreement is drawn up ā the Andromeda Accords, say. now the real work begins. learning about the native non-sapient species to various planets, learning new systems of biodiversity, learning how to minimise the Milky Way footprint on this new galaxy. hereās where my glaring lack of knowledge in scientific matters trips me up, but I like daydreaming about it anyway.
by the time the Arks are actually deployed, the only actual barrier is the unforeseen threat of the Scourge and the kett invasion. in which case itās a lot easier to get everyone working together when the angara already know us, and know we are not invaders.
knocks about half the canon storyline right out of relevance, which probably is no great crime, but also⦠Iām just tired of humans barging in on everything and taking it over and then acting wounded when people donāt automatically trust that they have their best interests at heart. if I were angaran I wouldnāt trust the canon Initiative for a fucking second wtf
thank god iām not the only one who hates this. i really donāt understand why no one ever seems to bring it up. the initiativeās behaviour is legitimately shocking. like TO START WITH they exile their criminals to worlds they know are already populated and low on resources, effectively unleashing a crime wave on the native population! and thatās without even touching the grossness of claiming Meridian at the end. :/
Thereās one major problem, itās that there was no sign of anything alive at the moment of departure. The Angara, the cloud, the Remnants, the Ketts, there was nothing but fertile planet devoid of advanced civilization.
I completely agree that their actions once arrived were very colonialist, but they also were done in extreme circumstances by incompetent people, and I donāt think it had been made abundantly clear.
Andromeda condemns colonialism as every actions, such as unleashing a crime wave or mistreating the locals, are shown to be evil. While the diplomatic decisions during the game are made out of necessity, the choice at the end truly determine which path you want Andromeda to go. And if you choose the Angara way, the sucker in chief protest at the prospect of losing power and control is quickly shut down by a āThatās the point!ā from the one responsible for colonization.
Yeah, likeā¦none of that makes it better?Ā Their scans from another galaxy might have suggested that it was uninhabited, but, like, these are dicey scans from far away, and even if they are accurate, they know itās gonna take hundreds of yearsĀ to get there and who knows whatāll happen in between.Ā Ā
So okay, fine, whatās done is done, and even if the colonists shouldĀ have understood the dodgy proposition of heading out in the hopesĀ it was claimable land, people donāt always react as theyād like under stress.Ā Fine.Ā But then we get to the point - the Initiative totally fucked upĀ and behaved in ways that made their incompetence abundantly clear.Ā Ā
Then Ryder shows up, starts wandering around promoting this utterly incompetent organisation.Ā There is never any leadership change.Ā You canāt fire the people responsible for this clusterfuck.Ā And honestly, Ryder isnāt even qualified for the position of Pathfinder - itās ludicrous nepotism.Ā She wanders around writing checks she canāt cash in terms of convincing the natives to trust the Initiative.Ā Ā
Like, at NO POINT in that game does Ryder issue a formal apology for unleashing the crime wave or take ANY responsibility from the Initiativeās perspective.Ā Yeah, she shows up and tries to take some practical steps towards fixing shit, but who ends up in charge on Kadara? Either Sloane or Reyes.Ā Not a fucking Angaran, for sure.Ā Ā
And if weāre gonna talk about the shit at the end, omfg.Ā Letās break it down.Ā Without consulting a single angaran, the Initiative decides on the political structure of the entire cluster and tells Ryder to appoint someone as its representative.Ā IfĀ Ryder chooses an Angaran (which is by no means something the player has to do, itās a wide open multiple choice situation here), the game pipes up to remind you that you donāt haveĀ to do that.Ā If you persist, then Director Tann makes a snarky comment and sure, you get thatĀ āThatās the point, you colonialist ass!ā remark.Ā Ā
Which, tbh, pissed me the hell off, because the game had been nothing BUT screaming colonialism from start to finish, but lol, look, we kindly threw the natives a bone, letās all pat ourselves on the back.Ā Ā
Itās really patronising, condescending and indicative of the paternalisticĀ ābut weāre HELPING!ā colonialism that alsoĀ infects this game regarding the angara.Ā Like, because the kett are there to represent this aggressive colonising force - literally colonising bodies - the Initiative get a pass for their past actions because they can help in the present, and the game gets a pass for its REALLY SUPER paternalistic writing.Ā Ā
The Initiative show up and quickly render the angara dependent on them for 1) military defense against the kett, 2) ecological survival, because it takes the Initiative twenty minutes to fix the ancient technology that the angara had been puzzling over for years, (with bonus overtones of literally taming the land) and 3) information on their own fucking genesis.Ā Ā
The human arc crash lands on Meridian, the planet where the angara were LITERALLY CREATED, and declare it their new homeworld.Ā An email in a terminal you can read after the end of the game makes it clear the angara are desperate for access to this world, but itās okay guys, the Initiative are happy toĀ āhostā them.Ā FUCKING HOST THEM. ON THEIR OWN HOMEWORLD. WHICH WE HAVE STOLEN.Ā Ā
Plus, weāve reactived the terraforming network, right? Which means, the Initiative now has the means to turn it off, wreaking ecological disaster on anyone who doesnāt fall in line.Ā Remember what Director Tann did to the Krogan?Ā Do we trust him with that power?Ā I fucking donāt.Ā But I canāt fire him.Ā Iām just allowed to go around the galaxy cleaning up his diplomatic fuck ups as if I can promise anyone any level of safety or respect.Ā Which I canāt.Ā Ā
Seriously, this game paints the thinnest veneer ofĀ ācolonialism is bad, mākay?ā over what is actually just a series of demands for automatic second chances, and lazy writing that sets upĀ ācivilisedā saviours.Ā Ā
I absolutely LOVE the Mass Effect franchise.Ā I wanted to love Andromeda.Ā I liked quite a few of the characters and the game play, and I legit went into it expecting it to be more colonialist than I was comfortable with.Ā But WOW, did I not expect the clusterfuck we got.Ā Ā
The weirdest thing is they would have fixed SO MANY of their problems if it had just been a refugee convoy, launching in desperation.Ā That would have explained the bad behaviour due to trauma and desperation, would have meant that I had more sympathy for the explorers in the first place, etc.Ā Ā
As it is, it just feels like the Initiative launched thousands of Conrad Verners and a few Udinas at Andromeda and called it a day.Ā *sigh*
I agree with some points, and not with others.
The idea that in 600 years a civilization could pop up is really, really thin. While they took a risk going all in, they certainly did not have cause to progress diplomatically, because there was no sign of anyone. Plus, if all had gone according to plan, the Nexus would have had enough resources to create a true diplomatic effort on the ground.
For the events during the game, I agree that many things could have gone better, but the fact that everyone is in an all out war with a seemingly impossible to beat enemy forces relationships to happens fast. The situation on the Acid planet is completely unfair to the native Angara, however itās the only place where itās the case and Ryder do not have the time to negotiate further than who is the next kingpin. Nexus is trying to survive, and not in position to impose anything to anyone, only to call in favors and hope for goodwill.
Now, the fact that the Initiatives arrives to solve everything of the Angara STINKS. It reeks of white savior and is really, really bad taste. I think the worst part is the decyphering of Remnant technology, something the Angara were designed to do (although we donāt know if the design was finished), and can do only at great cost. Ryder, and by extension the Initiative, solves it instantly better than the Angara could ever have done.
The fact that the Initiative is better equipped against the Kett is not problem in my opinion. Not only is it regularly said that they heavily rely on Angara soldiers, the fact that they leaped through galaxy justifies the technological advantage.
The thing at the end is indeed patronizing, however it is justified. The Initiative IS in a position of power. They have all the cards by the end of the game, and it is THEIR decision that will influence the future. Yes, thatās unfair. No, I donāt believe itās not a promotion or a glorification of colonization, not until we see the results of said choice. I think thatās even the point, for cooperation to happen you must abandon power in order to be equal to your peers. Equality isnāt something that happens naturally, it must be enforced. If you happens to have the power, you must discard it, but the fact is that you have the power and not the others.
If anything, Andromeda dodge the heavy stuff by being in a permanent state of emergency. Both the war against the Kett and the need for Nexus survival justify a lot of harsh or rash decisions. I wish you could fire the authorities, or mount a coup, however it would destabilize the structure and the Nexus is absolutly not in position to resists that at the moment. Itās after the dust has settles that the real problems should be addressed. That the commentary on colonization should really start.
The horrors of colonization didnāt happen when people arrived stranded, with no resources and unable to go back. They began when the colonizers had established themselves enough to overrun the locals while it was perfectly avoidable.
Okay, so like, point by point:Ā
1) 600 years and civilisation.Ā
Iām still unconvinced that new tech allowing low res scans should really be proof of anything, and 600 years is a really freaking long time.Ā 600 years before Mass Effect, Earth was a one-planet civilisation who didnāt understand electricity, but if someone had shown up claiming Mars because they had some low res scans from another galaxy, I doubt theyād have been pleased?Ā Or maybe it was the galactic equivalent of a national park.Ā The point is they donāt fucking know.Ā They have no idea whatās going to await them, and the thrill of discovery is, in part, the point.Ā Thereās a huge difference between a refugee (who has no choice but to immigrate to another land and asserts a moral right to do so as a humanitarian matter) and an explorer, whoās just there out of curiosity.Ā Who choseĀ to go there.Ā If you choose to go somewhere but youāre willing to defend your right to be there with guns (as the Initiative clearly are), then you are an invader.Ā
Bottom line, the Initiative may not have wantedĀ to take the land by force, but they were clearly headed there with a willingness to do so if necessary.Ā Ā
If you sell your house because you thought you could move into an abandoned warehouse but get there to find your information was out of date, and the warehouse had been sold to someone, who had already moved in, and your response is,Ā āBut Iāve already sold my house, get the fuck out, Iām taking this because Iāve nowhere else to go,ā youāre still an assholeĀ and the situation is still one of your making.Ā Ā
As to launching a better diplomatic initiative if things had gone better, well...Iām not sure thatās true.Ā The ambassador you send to the Angaran homeworld is a sociologist who remarks on the fact sheās having to make-do with her skillset.Ā I can only assume because the Initiative...didnāt bring any diplomats or ambassadors, or people skilled in early contact situations? Which seems outstandingly stupid, but...Iām not sure what else to make of it.Ā Ā
2) Crisis trumps ethics.Ā
I mean, yeah, sure, in many practical ways it does.Ā But the game itself doesnāt engage with the ways in which the Initiative actively causedĀ some parts of the crisis itās trying to fix.Ā Ryder doesnāt show up horrified that Tannās leadership has caused this, Ryder shows up and acts like the Initiative are some Totally Different group to the Exiles.Ā Which is just...bullshit.Ā And really dissonant for me as a player.Ā Ā
Also, using a crisis as an excuse for a power grab doesnāt make it any less of a power grab.Ā Ā
Ryder didnātĀ have time to properly sort out Kadaraās leadership or reinstall an Angaran leadership structure, no.Ā But like...that doesnāt make it okay, and it doesnāt make the fact the game spends no time on that ethical point okay.Ā Ā
3) Technology & saviourism
Yeah, we agree here.Ā :)
4) Military superiority
Yeah, I think in isolation this would be fine.Ā Like, the fact that the Initiative are better equipped to fight the kett, etc., I donāt think that would automatically be a colonialist issue in the narrative.Ā But withĀ all the rest, itās just one more way the Angara are at the Initiativeās mercy and dependent on them for help.Ā Ā
5) Might make right? Colonialism or not?
Iām not actually sure I understand what youāre saying here, but I thinkĀ youāre saying that, because the Initiative are more powerful than the Angara andĀ āhold all the cardsā, they have the right to make decisions for them, to occupy their homeworld and make unilateral decisions about the political structure of the cluster and the direction of the future.Ā And that while this isnāt fair, it isnāt colonialist either?
I mean...I just straight up think thatās completely wrong.Ā Thatās lunch money bully territory, and itās absolutelyĀ colonialist.Ā Ā
Like, you say that colonialism didnāt happen when people were stranded with no resources, but when they were established enough to overrun the local population, which is true.Ā But the ability to overrun the local population isnātĀ predicated on the ability to reinforce from a parent population if you bring that many people and enough resources with you.Ā The Initiative areĀ already overrunning and killing the local population, they areĀ already taking over their territory, and imposing their culture on the culture that was there before (as evidenced by the final decision to impose their political culture on the whole cluster).Ā Ā
So like, again, I just straight up think youāre wrong.Ā Ā
I also donāt think that the writing is at all self-aware when it comes to these problems.

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I have a persistent problem with Andromeda that I canāt really fix the way I usually do, because I also have a glaring lack of knowledge in the subjects Iād need knowledge on in order to do it effectively
and that problem is the way the Milky Way species just kinda⦠barge into the galaxy like conquistadors
what I want is for the Initiative to have attempted some sort of contact with Andromeda beforehand ā if not long-distance contact, then maybe a set of recon-type missions where they stuck their heads into the galaxy to see what-all was around. in the process, they meet the angara and other native sapient species (mighty convenient that thereās only one native sapient species ingame ā assuming the kett are from elsewhere ā innit) and kinda just⦠begin a dialogue.Ā āhey, weāre humanity, the turians, the salarians, etc. weāre thinking about branching out. how do you guys feel about thatā
and for the sake of the story, say the angara agree to help, but they have some concerns and boundaries. an agreement is drawn up ā the Andromeda Accords, say. now the real work begins. learning about the native non-sapient species to various planets, learning new systems of biodiversity, learning how to minimise the Milky Way footprint on this new galaxy. hereās where my glaring lack of knowledge in scientific matters trips me up, but I like daydreaming about it anyway.
by the time the Arks are actually deployed, the only actual barrier is the unforeseen threat of the Scourge and the kett invasion. in which case itās a lot easier to get everyone working together when the angara already know us, and know we are not invaders.
knocks about half the canon storyline right out of relevance, which probably is no great crime, but also⦠Iām just tired of humans barging in on everything and taking it over and then acting wounded when people donāt automatically trust that they have their best interests at heart. if I were angaran I wouldnāt trust the canon Initiative for a fucking second wtf
thank god iām not the only one who hates this. i really donāt understand why no one ever seems to bring it up. the initiativeās behaviour is legitimately shocking. like TO START WITH they exile their criminals to worlds they know are already populated and low on resources, effectively unleashing a crime wave on the native population! and thatās without even touching the grossness of claiming Meridian at the end. :/
Thereās one major problem, itās that there was no sign of anything alive at the moment of departure. The Angara, the cloud, the Remnants, the Ketts, there was nothing but fertile planet devoid of advanced civilization.
I completely agree that their actions once arrived were very colonialist, but they also were done in extreme circumstances by incompetent people, and I donāt think it had been made abundantly clear.
Andromeda condemns colonialism as every actions, such as unleashing a crime wave or mistreating the locals, are shown to be evil. While the diplomatic decisions during the game are made out of necessity, the choice at the end truly determine which path you want Andromeda to go. And if you choose the Angara way, the sucker in chief protest at the prospect of losing power and control is quickly shut down by a āThatās the point!ā from the one responsible for colonization.
Yeah, like...none of that makes it better?Ā Their scans from another galaxy might have suggested that it was uninhabited, but, like, these are dicey scans from far away, and even if they are accurate, they know itās gonna take hundreds of yearsĀ to get there and who knows whatāll happen in between.Ā Ā
So okay, fine, whatās done is done, and even if the colonists shouldĀ have understood the dodgy proposition of heading out in the hopesĀ it was claimable land, people donāt always react as theyād like under stress.Ā Fine.Ā But then we get to the point - the Initiative totally fucked upĀ and behaved in ways that made their incompetence abundantly clear.Ā Ā
Then Ryder shows up, starts wandering around promoting this utterly incompetent organisation.Ā There is never any leadership change.Ā You canāt fire the people responsible for this clusterfuck.Ā And honestly, Ryder isnāt even qualified for the position of Pathfinder - itās ludicrous nepotism.Ā She wanders around writing checks she canāt cash in terms of convincing the natives to trust the Initiative.Ā Ā
Like, at NO POINT in that game does Ryder issue a formal apology for unleashing the crime wave or take ANY responsibility from the Initiativeās perspective.Ā Yeah, she shows up and tries to take some practical steps towards fixing shit, but who ends up in charge on Kadara? Either Sloane or Reyes.Ā Not a fucking Angaran, for sure.Ā Ā
And if weāre gonna talk about the shit at the end, omfg.Ā Letās break it down.Ā Without consulting a single angaran, the Initiative decides on the political structure of the entire cluster and tells Ryder to appoint someone as its representative.Ā IfĀ Ryder chooses an Angaran (which is by no means something the player has to do, itās a wide open multiple choice situation here), the game pipes up to remind you that you donāt haveĀ to do that.Ā If you persist, then Director Tann makes a snarky comment and sure, you get thatĀ āThatās the point, you colonialist ass!ā remark.Ā Ā
Which, tbh, pissed me the hell off, because the game had been nothing BUT screaming colonialism from start to finish, but lol, look, we kindly threw the natives a bone, letās all pat ourselves on the back.Ā Ā
Itās really patronising, condescending and indicative of the paternalisticĀ ābut weāre HELPING!ā colonialism that alsoĀ infects this game regarding the angara.Ā Like, because the kett are there to represent this aggressive colonising force - literally colonising bodies - the Initiative get a pass for their past actions because they can help in the present, and the game gets a pass for its REALLY SUPER paternalistic writing.Ā Ā
The Initiative show up and quickly render the angara dependent on them for 1) military defense against the kett, 2) ecological survival, because it takes the Initiative twenty minutes to fix the ancient technology that the angara had been puzzling over for years, (with bonus overtones of literally taming the land) and 3) information on their own fucking genesis.Ā Ā
The human arc crash lands on Meridian, the planet where the angara were LITERALLY CREATED, and declare it their new homeworld.Ā An email in a terminal you can read after the end of the game makes it clear the angara are desperate for access to this world, but itās okay guys, the Initiative are happy toĀ āhostā them.Ā FUCKING HOST THEM. ON THEIR OWN HOMEWORLD. WHICH WE HAVE STOLEN.Ā Ā
Plus, weāve reactived the terraforming network, right? Which means, the Initiative now has the means to turn it off, wreaking ecological disaster on anyone who doesnāt fall in line.Ā Remember what Director Tann did to the Krogan?Ā Do we trust him with that power?Ā I fucking donāt.Ā But I canāt fire him.Ā Iām just allowed to go around the galaxy cleaning up his diplomatic fuck ups as if I can promise anyone any level of safety or respect.Ā Which I canāt.Ā Ā
Seriously, this game paints the thinnest veneer ofĀ ācolonialism is bad, mākay?ā over what is actually just a series of demands for automatic second chances, and lazy writing that sets upĀ ācivilisedā saviours.Ā Ā
I absolutely LOVE the Mass Effect franchise.Ā I wanted to love Andromeda.Ā I liked quite a few of the characters and the game play, and I legit went into it expecting it to be more colonialist than I was comfortable with.Ā But WOW, did I not expect the clusterfuck we got.Ā Ā
The weirdest thing is they would have fixed SO MANY of their problems if it had just been a refugee convoy, launching in desperation.Ā That would have explained the bad behaviour due to trauma and desperation, would have meant that I had more sympathy for the explorers in the first place, etc.Ā Ā
As it is, it just feels like the Initiative launched thousands of Conrad Verners and a few Udinas at Andromeda and called it a day.Ā *sigh*
I have a persistent problem with Andromeda that I canāt really fix the way I usually do, because I also have a glaring lack of knowledge in the subjects Iād need knowledge on in order to do it effectively
and that problem is the way the Milky Way species just kinda⦠barge into the galaxy like conquistadors
what I want is for the Initiative to have attempted some sort of contact with Andromeda beforehand ā if not long-distance contact, then maybe a set of recon-type missions where they stuck their heads into the galaxy to see what-all was around. in the process, they meet the angara and other native sapient species (mighty convenient that thereās only one native sapient species ingame ā assuming the kett are from elsewhere ā innit) and kinda just⦠begin a dialogue.Ā āhey, weāre humanity, the turians, the salarians, etc. weāre thinking about branching out. how do you guys feel about thatā
and for the sake of the story, say the angara agree to help, but they have some concerns and boundaries. an agreement is drawn up ā the Andromeda Accords, say. now the real work begins. learning about the native non-sapient species to various planets, learning new systems of biodiversity, learning how to minimise the Milky Way footprint on this new galaxy. hereās where my glaring lack of knowledge in scientific matters trips me up, but I like daydreaming about it anyway.
by the time the Arks are actually deployed, the only actual barrier is the unforeseen threat of the Scourge and the kett invasion. in which case itās a lot easier to get everyone working together when the angara already know us, and know we are not invaders.
knocks about half the canon storyline right out of relevance, which probably is no great crime, but also⦠Iām just tired of humans barging in on everything and taking it over and then acting wounded when people donāt automatically trust that they have their best interests at heart. if I were angaran I wouldnāt trust the canon Initiative for a fucking second wtf
thank god i'm not the only one who hates this. i really don't understand why no one ever seems to bring it up. the initiative's behaviour is legitimately shocking. like TO START WITH they exile their criminals to worlds they know are already populated and low on resources, effectively unleashing a crime wave on the native population! and that's without even touching the grossness of claiming Meridian at the end. :/