Hello, we are the Atmosphere System! We are an OSDD-1b system. Not yet medically recognized, but seeking care. We are bodily 15, so please IWC if you are an adult.
ABOUT US
- Our collective name is Saturn.
- We use they/it/he pronouns collectively, aswell as plural pronouns
- We have six known alters. There may be more.
- We are alterhuman, aswell as agere/petre, a furry, multishipper, selfshipper, queer, and more! FUCK CRINGE CULTURE
- We are a hellenistic pagan. Any and all religious posts will be tagged so you can block them. We won't talk about religion otherwise.
BOUNDARIES
Flirting: No. Friends can do so jokingly
Compliments/pet names: PLATONICALLY only.
Ask to Front: Sure, but not guaranteed whatsoever.
Touch: Sure!!
Nicknames: Yes!!
Source Talk/Questions: Yes!!!!!
DMs: Ask
DNI: We don't really have one, people can interact freely. I will, however, put it out there that I am anti-harmful transID, anti-contact, and anti-radqueer. I don't have it in me to give a fuck about syscourse anymore so I'll just block you if I feel like it. Respect your own DNI.
I don't care for polyminds, but I may block you if you are one as I have trauma related to the coiner.
Other: Please do not use he/she/they pronouns on it.
Sign-off: -🦴🥩
MADDIE
Role: Traumaholder
Age: Unknown (Ageless?)
Type: Introject / Fictive
Source: Back to the Outback (movie)
Gender: Unknown
Pronouns: She/It
Species: Snake
Orientation: Aroace, cupioromantic?
Other: She rarely fronts, and when she does, she doesn't talk all that much.
Sign-off: -🐍🦋
FEDERAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY
Alt. Names: FDP, Alfred
Role: Idefk anymore
Age: 198 yrs
Type: Introject / Conceptive / Fictive
Source: OC of the real party + the party itself.
Gender: Agender
Pronouns: Any/All
Species: Political Party / Donkey
Orientation: Panromantic, Asexual
Other: literally no gender, refer to him as whatever. It usually gets called masculine terms but you can use fem/neutral/nonhuman ones too. You can block their tag if uncomfy w/ her source. Do note that she fronts pretty often, though.
Sign-off: -💙🫏
LAIKA
Role: Unknown
Age: 16-19
Type: Braintroject (introject / brainmade)
Source: Russian Space Dog, Laika.
Gender: Demigirl, Abrogender
Pronouns: She/They/It/Pup/Bark
Species: Human / Canine / Alien
Orientation: Pansexual
Other: Pup is EXTREMELY source seperated. She was only partially introjected, with bits and pieces of Laika (the dog) "latched" onto it's identity.
Sign-off: -🍥🌷
RIVER (no real faceclaim yet)
Role: Unknown
Age: Unknown
Type: Unknown (possibly braintroject, like Laika)
Gender: Unknown (maybe xenogender?)
Pronouns: Unknown (they/it for now)
Species: Unknown (identifies as SeaWingkin, RiverClankin and Na'vikin, specifically the water Na'Vi)
Other: Still a fragment. We barely know anything about it.
Sign-off: -🌀
We do not know everything about our system. Some headmates aren't "fully-formed" yet, or we simply haven't "uncovered" missing information. Do not expect all of us to know everything.
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Genuine question and I DON'T want to sound rude here but, do endogenic systems experience dissociation/amnesia?
I think maybe I could get behind it if it comes with dissociation, since there's many disorders that cause dissociation and severe dissociation can defo lead to a CDD without trauma maybe (because it is argued if trauma is even necessary for DID despite it being prevalent in many cases) but otherwise I'm just honestly confused on how systems form without barriers or anything
And if they DID have these barriers they wouldn't be non-disordered, since then you would meet diagnosis criteria! Because trauma isn't a requirement for DID/OSDD diagnosis. And listen I'm not referring to soulbonding or tulpas here because that's a seperate spiritual practice okay
But seriously, I'm struggling to understand how someone can have alters WITHOUT amnesia barriers/seperate personality states that would be qualifying for DID. Are endogenic systems...not alters? I'm so confused
Anyways that's just my thoughts, I'm genuinely curious here and want to hear from people because syscourse is really confusing for me because I've heard some good takes from BOTH sides. I usually lean more anti-endo but I'm trying to figure out a solid position i guess so uh feel free to try and sway me to the other side!!
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you (struggling, going through a lot): yeah i think i might have DID and its just been a whole lot for me and im so stressed out any help at all would be nice
system community: see i understand that, but what's astronomically more important is whether or not endogenic systems are real!
this is what makes me mad about syscourse, because at this point BOTH sides are taking away resources for those with dissociative disorders by making it all they talk about...like everytime I go into a space like "hey I have OSDD can i-"
"IM PRO ENDO"
"WELL IM ANTI"
"WELL I THINK ALL SYSTEMS ARE FAKE"
"UR ONLY REAL IF YOU HAVE ALL BRAINMADES"
please guys can we have ONE system space that doesn't involve any fucking discourse WHATSOEVER
The axe forgets but the tree remembers. Unless you have did. Then the tree remembers but only in the form of blurry snapshots of the axe and a distant trauma holder who won't explain why they fucking hate the axe.
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Everytime we tell a friend we're plural we get one of 2 reactions.
1. They say "okay" and never acknowledge it again.
2. They ask an insane amount of invasive questions.
Ask me which one I prefer. Go ahead. Ask. Because it'll ALWAYS be the second one!! Always!!! I can say "I don't want to answer that, but I can explain [xyz]" because at least they're trying to understand! They NEVER mean to be assholes about it! They're just curious, and I can deal with that! With the first one, I have to basically beg them to acknowledge me as a person!! I'll always prefer the 2nd one. Always.
fakeclaimers make it impossible to fucking breathe as a system.
you can’t be too overt because its a covert disorder and if you’re overt you’re probably exaggerating for attention, but also if they can’t tell when you switch you’re also faking because they should be able to tell.
you can’t have too many alters because that’s rare and impossible but you also can’t have too few alters because that’s easy to fake.
your trauma has to be severe enough to cause DID in their eyes, but you story can’t be too crazy otherwise you’re lying or exaggerating.
you can’t switch too much because alters need a trigger to switch, but if you don’t switch often you’re lying because its easy to fake not switching.
if you’re able to function at work or school you’re faking because DID is debilitating but if you’re disabled by it suddenly you’re just lazy and making up fake excuses to not work.
FDP when he wants us to get into fucking politics but nobody else really wants to do that...maybe in another life, bud, you can be the politician you're meant to be.
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developing a system is like making toast. hear me out on this one.
sure, there are multiple ways you can make toast. you can use a toaster, a grill, a pan, an oven, even a flamethrower if you like it REALLY toasted. but you know what all of those methods have in common?
they all require heat.
if you have no heat source, you can't make toast. sure, you can use a sharpie and scribble on bread to make it *look* like toast, but it's still bread. it still isn't toast without the heat.
developing a CDD (aka system/plurality) is the same way. trauma can look vastly different, but it's all still trauma. abuse, neglect, bullying, it does not matter. trauma is required for the formation of a system just like heat is required for toast.
endos can try to look like systems all they want. they can use a whole box of sharpies trying to pretend they're the same as us. but at the end of the day, they're still bread and we're still toast.