Euuueueue thinking about Shen Jiu keeping Ning Yingying intentionally naive because he had to grow up so fast, so his idea of the kindest way to treat her is to keep her in a prolonged state of adolescence 😭
She shouldn’t be pressured to learn in her martial lessons because he doesn’t want her to have to fight to survive
She shouldn’t have to do chores because he wants her to have fun and be free
She shouldn’t learn about people’s bad intentions so that she never lives in fear of the people around her
She shouldn’t learn to think critically and question authority, because what if she came to the reasonable conclusion that her Jiu-jiu is a rotten, terrible man, who never truly cared for her? He wouldn’t survive it.
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gift shopping for younger cousins is so scary like I want to be cool. but not seem clingy. or seem distant. but I want them to know that I care about them so so much and I am always here if they need someone to talk to. and also we only see each other like once a year. but I held them when they were babies and saw them grow up and I Want Them To Know I Care So So Much,
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i choose to believe that when they sent the hail mary off it had access to the internet up until they got so far away they couldn't ping even the furthest sateilleite, which means that Ryland has access to everything ever posted up until a certain point. He has twitter posts up until 11 days after they were launched, and he can play among us but only in servers alone. He can post on tumblr, but it's never going to be updated.
is it?
because they say in the movie that it'll take 11 years or so for communication with earth to happen, which means that if ryland grace starts tumblr blogging right after he wakes up, it could take anywhere from roughly 5-ish earth years for his posts to show up. (taking that tumblr posting takes a lot less internet than it does to have a phone call that's active and always updating).
Ryland Grace and Rocky could very much have a one way updating system to the people of earth by fucking with the internet
[tags from @weirdwyvern that say: #ryland grace’s tumblr updates for the first time in 10 years and it’s just a post reading “never become important at work guys i mean it” #phm #project hail mary]
I try not to fall into the "I never liked their work anyway" ditch when an artist/creator reveals themself to be a terrible person
BUT
a feeling I do have and will stand by is "While I enjoyed their work overall I did have some gripes that I overlooked out of affection and whimsy, but now that my loyalty is gone and my affection tainted there is nothing holding me back from enumerating my many grievances, to which the revelations of the creator's shittiness may or may not provide a new and infuriating context."
#such a good summation of this actually#because yeah there’s usually things that were always present#but which were easy to overlook or give the benefit of the doubt#that suddenly become relevant after a revelation about the creator#and it’s really not the same thing as the self-defensive “’I never liked it anyway’
The innkeeper and his wife, the coachman, they were expecting a middle-aged businessman, too arrogant to listen, too cynical to even believe the warnings are well-meant, too confident in his own science and religion to listen to anyone else. Someone with enough worldly experience that he might recognize Dracula as a threat even if he doesn't understand the nature of the threat. Someone important and well-connected enough that he's too risky to kill, old and dull enough not to be interesting enough to toy with.
It was a comfort, to know there was no way to save him. Another comfort, that he would be useful and boring enough to be spared, and canny enough to spot the danger.
Then Jonathon Harker shows up, young and earnest and innocent. He praises the food and asks for recipes for his young bride-to-be back home, and they can see in his face how in love he is. They see too his enthusiasm, his fascination. He blushes when he looks at the women and averts his eyes, he consults his phrase book so he can better give compliments.
He's young enough to be their son. Maybe the innkeeper has a child close to Jonathon's age--a son just starting his own life, a daughter a little younger peeking through the door and sighing at the handsome traveler. Or maybe their child would have been Jonathon's age, if only--but no, they must not think that.
But they do think it, and so the innkeeper's wife begs him to take the rosary "for your mother's sake" and it's not really Jonathon she's talking to. The innkeeper whispers to his friends and customers and old gossips, and they pass it to the passengers on the coach. The coachman is taken back too, the money the Count sent weighing heavily in his pocket. To refuse to drive him means death, to warn him is pointless.
Everyone on the couch is older than Jonathon, old enough to know what the devil in the castle does to the young and earnest and innocent. They all carry their own protections, and one by one they offer them to this poor fool who doesn't understand and wouldn't believe, but he's too polite to refuse and kind enough to see their concern and be touched by it.
The coachman drives his horses like he is fleeing from the devil instead of to him, and they all hope, pray, it will be enough.
When a male author can't write women it's usually like reading about space aliens. When a female author can't write men it's usually like watching a movie where through clever camera trickery every male role is played by the same guy. Like, she can totally write man, but just the one.
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Opera plot: Local Noble realizes that his affections for Pretty Village Girl have a rival in the form of Honest Laborer. Having read enough romances to know that a girl asked to choose between a rich man and a poor man will always pick the poor man, whereas in a love triangle between two rich men it's anyone's game, he decides that his chief object must be to elevate his rival's wealth and status as quickly as possible. What the Compte de Genre-Savie over here forgot to account for, however, was the overwhelming power of the Pygmalion Effect, and now he has to deal with watching two people he's in love with develop ever-stronger feelings for each other. Eventually all of this resolves via...I don't know.
#first of all: ''comte de genre-savie'' is PERFECT. just great. absolutely no notes.#I would love an opera with this exact plot. bonus points if the comte is genuinely genre savvy#he keeps bringing up opera tropes only for the other characters to look at him like he's insane.#the score is diagetic to him; when he points out reoccurring themes or transitions to minor keys#the other characters ask him what the hell he's talking about. the whole chorus gets together to sing about how#comte de genre-savie is going mad. the comte tries to sneak away and keeps getting pulled back in.#I wonder if you could even push it further - have it so that only the comte can speak or 'hear' spoken words;#all other characters communicate in recitativo secco or formally composed songs#then you can have scenes where the comte is speaking but the other character in the scene can't hear him.#this can be played for laughs (the comte tries to order something from a shopkeeper; the shopkeeper walks away as he's talking)#and for dramatic effect (the Honest Laborer is singing a heartfelt duet with the Pretty Village Girl#and neither of them can hear the comte saying 'I love you' in between their lines)#........I am into this actually. I had to convince myself that this wasn't just cyrano de bergerac but no. it isn't. I'm into it.#upon the stage (via @notbecauseofvictories)
Bonus points if the Comte can also see the stage manager and stagehands. At one point he's like "No listen I'll prove I'm not crazy" and he darts behind a curtain and drags out a woman wearing all black and a headset, with her hair in a messy bun and a clipboard in her hands. He's like, "Tell them I'm not mad." The other characters are like, "🎶HE'S SPEAKING TO GHOSTS 🎶" Stage manager runs off. Comte shades his eyes and peers into the back of the theater where the lighting tech is working. He's like, "Can you bring the house lights up so they can see the audience???" Lighting tech ignores him. The comte is like "FINE!!! It's nearly time for my quickchange, anyway. [to the other characters] WATCH THIS, here's proof, WATCH." And then he stands there stubbornly while the backstage assistants peek in and hiss and gesticulate for him to come get his new costume, and eventually they're forced to scramble out and undress/redress him right there on stage. The other characters are like "GASP!!!!!!! 🎶HE'S A WARLOCK, LOOK HOW HIS CLOTHES FLY FROM HIS BODY BY THE WILL OF HIS UNSEEN DEMON SERVANTS🎶"
Pretty Village Girl and Honest Laborer run off together. Comte falls in love with the stage manager.
#i'd watch it #though when pygmalion was brought up i thought it was going to end up with the comte falling in love with the honest laborer too #which isn't related to the pygmalion effect but would be a fun way to approach the love triangle #it could still win #like sure maybe the comte seems a little crzy but maybe village girl and honest laborer are kind of into that
@quilleth That is exactly what I was implying--that as he helps the other man rise in station, his newfound confidence, and the ease and with which he adapts to some trappings of high society while making the conscious decision to reject others, combined with the earnestness and nature-loving wisdom that he never loses, is absolutely going to send our Nobleman weak in the knees.
you don't need to write a dark deconstruction of Peter Pan where he's willing to kill people and his state of eternal childhood makes him morally ambiguous, JM Barrie already wrote one and it's called Peter Pan
To clarify, this post isn't about the misconception thrown around by clickbait online listicles that "Peter kills the Lost Boys when they get too old"*. Any real horror that comes from the story, IMO, is about Peter as a VICTIM. His very existence is a tragedy.
Peter, like a lot of mythological fairies and fae folk on which he's based, is stuck in a sort of eternal childhood not just of body, but of mind. While to another child this would obviously be a dream come true it becomes VERY clear over the course of the story that he's deeply suffering under the surface. Peter Pan was written partially as a critique on Victorian and Edwardian ideas about childhood innocence. JM Barrie, when describing some of the fundamental traits of children, calls them gay, innocent, and heartless. Peter being morally grey is text, not subtext.
I'm not saying a more adult-oriented retelling shouldn't exist, I'm a grown-ass man who still loves this very story. But shouldn't it touch on a topic less shallow?
You exist in a state of eternal play. No parents to tell you what to do - or take care of you. You have all the friends you want, until they start to grow up, and you stay the same, no matter what you do, and you don't know why. Finally one day you bring home a "mother" who isn't a grown up, and it's so much fun! It's amazing! But she starts getting scared because she's forgetting things, forgetting the way her own mother looked (her real, grown-up mother, the thing you never had, the thing you hate and want most of all), so she leaves you, and you let her go, because you have to. And maybe she comes back, but every year she's more and more different until suddenly, you don't know her anymore. But that doesn't matter, because she has another little girl, so you can have another mother, so why not start again?
And you do. And thus it will go on. As long as children are gay, and innocent, and heartless.
* That's basically a throwaway line that he tells Wendy as a sort of brag, and imo I think we're supposed to take it with a grain of salt, since Peter is established to be a habitual liar and mis-rememberer of events, especially when he thinks it might make him look cool. The Lost Boys we meet in the original 1911 novel go home with the Darling children and are adopted into the family, something which you might not know if you only saw the Disney movie, so we know they aren't "actually dead and Neverland is heaven" and Peter didn't kill them after the Darlings left. In the official sequel, Peter Pan in Scarlet (yes there is a canon sequel, it was written in 2006 by Geraldine McCaughrean after she won a contest put forward by Great Ormond Street Hospital, the owners of the Peter Pan IP, it's amazing and everyone should read it right now) we actually meet some of the OTHER Lost Boys who were banished by peter for "growing up" and are still stuck in Neverland, and they still know Wendy (she comes back every year for the spring cleaning until Peter just... forgets about her). So there's no real evidence that Peter really did kill any of the Lost Boys, and in fact more evidence to the contrary - the closest we see him come to that is when he believes Tootles has accidentally shot and killed Wendy. When it's revealed that Wendy is fine, Tootles is forgiven entirely.
These two stories work so well as mirrors to each other that I sometimes like to say that AIW is an imaginary world running on a child's version of "adult logic" whereas in Peter Pan the "real" world runs on child logic. Why do mothers seem to know everything? Well...
Mrs. Darling first heard of Peter when she was tidying up her children’s minds. It is the nightly custom of every good mother after her children are asleep to rummage in their minds and put things straight for next morning, repacking into their proper places the many articles that have wandered during the day. If you could keep awake (but of course you can’t) you would see your own mother doing this, and you would find it very interesting to watch her. It is quite like tidying up drawers.
Obviously your mom can literally rummage through your thoughts! This is the most out-there example but generally in the story children's ideas about the world are just objectively correct. Mr. Darling's work is very abstract except for the idea of sums and small talk, Mrs. Darling can watch her kids through night-lights, the stars talk to Peter; I often say that Peter Pan is so surreal that, were it to come out today, could only be marketed to very young children (who would accept the weirdness of a fairy tale) or adults/very advanced readers who are used to surrealism (who can understand when not everything is meant to be understood in a book). Alice In Wonderland definitely has a current day reputation of being surreal, but I think Peter Pan deserves that as well, it is BUCK-WILD in some parts.
@fagboysupreme could def explain this better than me because whatever brainworms i have for Peter Pan he has the wondrrland variety
so wonderland is in practice a reverse of neverland. neverland works on kid logic so everything makes sense to kids and only to kids, and this kind of nonsense leaches out into the real world and that's why mr. darling's job is just The Concept Of Business and why crawling into the doghouse is treated as a reasonable response to upsetting your children.
wonderland, by contrast, is as nonsensical as it is because it's about societal rules and the way children are treated by adults, none of which makes much sense to a kid. especially during the time it was written. certain sections of it parody old virtue poems that children had to read in school and that probably seemed super dumb and arbitrary but you had to do it anyway. despite having lots of personality, alice is rarely allowed to be an active participant in her own adventure because she keeps getting pushed and pulled and kicked out of places and asked to perform pointless tasks and play stupid games.
they both meet at a sort of central point of "children see things in a very specific way and adult things are basically just nonsense" to the point that mr. darling's Nebulous Business Job is more or less an equivalent to "painting the roses red", representing the vague childlike idea of Having A Job and Having A Boss You Hate
alice is also notably sort of weird? granted wonderland turns out to be a dream and in dreams you just sort of accept things as standard, but she doesn't really do that. her reactions to most things are "well hey now i don't care for your wacky talk" as opposed to "holy shit why are we playing croquet with birds??" like she recognizes the circumstances as weird but not the earth-shattering weirdness that it so clearly is.
an edgy alice in wonderland story can and should, in my opinion, be more like Pink Floyd's "The Wall" -- it should be about tangibly representing stuff like childhood trauma. or, to contrast, it could be about the fear of growing up, the fear of responsibility. but to me the best "edgy" takes on wonderland are just about taking the pre-existing twisted world of wonderland and twisting it further. Jan Svankmajer's "Alice" is a good example of this, it's a relatively faithful adaptation of the story but replaces wonderland's whimsy with a sort of beige, crusty vibe, using a lot of animal skulls and other creepy things. it relies on the uncanny valley, to an extent.
a peepan and alice crossover is something ive had in the back of my head for awhile now, because either way there's an interesting interaction. if alice goes to neverland, she'd probably have a really good time? like she certainly wouldn't question not having to attend school, at least up until what she wants out of neverland clashes with what peter wants. if peter goes to wonderland, it would further dive into the arbitrary nature of childhood, only from the perspective of a person who has never had to experience anything resembling a normal childhood. which i think is objectively cool as shit.
i also want to point out the third point of this triangle that came much much later, "Coraline", where the alternate world is instead what an adult would assume a child wants. idk that i need to brainstorm more on but theres something there about alternate worlds in service of a child's mindset.
Thinking about a...well I guess you'd call it a meta-au of Project Hail Mary where instead of a movie made in 2026 based on a novel written in 2021, it's a novel from back in the beginning days of science fiction. H. G. Wells, Jules Verne, that type of thing. Same basic premise and plot outline, but how would the details of the story change?
The sun is going out, and all the other stars along with it, save only one. And so the governments of the world have come together to empower their finest minds to unravel this mystery, and then--oh, miracle of ingenuity in crisis!--to send a ship into the cosmos to find out what makes this distant star unique. The crew knows that there will be no coming home, only "lifeboats", of a sort, on which they can send back their findings, but they are prepared to do their duty. But why does said crew include Dr. Ryland Grace, outcast academic turned (admittedly beloved) schoolteacher? And with the rest of the crew having perished on the first leg of the voyage, how can he hope to complete the mission?
And then, to make things more complicated, it soon turns out that he's not so alone out there after all, and he and his new companion from another world must learn to communicate and work together in order to defeat the threat facing both of their stars.
In many ways, there's a lot here that I think Victorian sci-fi readers would have resonated with. A voyage to parts unknown for knowledge in a worthy cause; lots of focus on the technical details and the mechanics of problem-solving; amnesia and memory-recovery used as a convenient excuse to withhold plot exposition until the most dramatically-impactful moment; two Men* Of Science™ coming together and bridging a gap in their communication in order to pool their knowledge and fix what needs fixing, and forging a deep friendship in the process.
The big thing that would, not necessarily mean that it wouldn't sell as Victorian fiction, but would make it somewhat unique, is that no-one conquers anyone, or tries to. Grace and Rocky only ever approach each other as equals--their knowledge is asymmetrical, but neither one can definitively be said to be "more advanced". And at the end, even though the Eridians have clearly gone to a lot of effort to set Grace up with some very nice digs, it doesn't feel like it's in the same neighborhood as the "Intrepid Explorer Gets Pampered By Natives" trope, mainly because he hasn't been given a position of any authority (except in so far as you consider "Schoolteacher" a position of authority). But he isn't getting input on any government decisions, is my point; he hasn't been handed the keys to the kingdom. Meanwhile, the extraterrestrial life that actually is dangerous is a single-celled organism--we're never given reason to believe that it's capable of thought, let alone malice.
So seeing all this play out with the scientific knowledge and popular prose sensibilities of, say, the 1880s strikes me as an interesting proposition.
I know we've joked about how Stratt is actively tying Grace to the proverbial trolley tracks and is ready to pull the lever, but given the deeply primal nature of the problem at hand (the sun is literally being eaten) a more apt metaphor might be that she has tied him to a stone table and is pulling out the ritual knife.
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Thinking about a...well I guess you'd call it a meta-au of Project Hail Mary where instead of a movie made in 2026 based on a novel written in 2021, it's a novel from back in the beginning days of science fiction. H. G. Wells, Jules Verne, that type of thing. Same basic premise and plot outline, but how would the details of the story change?
The sun is going out, and all the other stars along with it, save only one. And so the governments of the world have come together to empower their finest minds to unravel this mystery, and then--oh, miracle of ingenuity in crisis!--to send a ship into the cosmos to find out what makes this distant star unique. The crew knows that there will be no coming home, only "lifeboats", of a sort, on which they can send back their findings, but they are prepared to do their duty. But why does said crew include Dr. Ryland Grace, outcast academic turned (admittedly beloved) schoolteacher? And with the rest of the crew having perished on the first leg of the voyage, how can he hope to complete the mission?
And then, to make things more complicated, it soon turns out that he's not so alone out there after all, and he and his new companion from another world must learn to communicate and work together in order to defeat the threat facing both of their stars.
In many ways, there's a lot here that I think Victorian sci-fi readers would have resonated with. A voyage to parts unknown for knowledge in a worthy cause; lots of focus on the technical details and the mechanics of problem-solving; amnesia and memory-recovery used as a convenient excuse to withhold plot exposition until the most dramatically-impactful moment; two Men* Of Science™ coming together and bridging a gap in their communication in order to pool their knowledge and fix what needs fixing, and forging a deep friendship in the process.
The big thing that would, not necessarily mean that it wouldn't sell as Victorian fiction, but would make it somewhat unique, is that no-one conquers anyone, or tries to. Grace and Rocky only ever approach each other as equals--their knowledge is asymmetrical, but neither one can definitively be said to be "more advanced". And at the end, even though the Eridians have clearly gone to a lot of effort to set Grace up with some very nice digs, it doesn't feel like it's in the same neighborhood as the "Intrepid Explorer Gets Pampered By Natives" trope, mainly because he hasn't been given a position of any authority (except in so far as you consider "Schoolteacher" a position of authority). But he isn't getting input on any government decisions, is my point; he hasn't been handed the keys to the kingdom. Meanwhile, the extraterrestrial life that actually is dangerous is a single-celled organism--we're never given reason to believe that it's capable of thought, let alone malice.
So seeing all this play out with the scientific knowledge and popular prose sensibilities of, say, the 1880s strikes me as an interesting proposition.
I don't know if a 19th-century author could conceive of the real-time translation software and artificial voice that the movie had. Maybe Grace picks up on Eridian quicker than he does in the film. And just for fun, maybe we say that he was a music teacher as well as a science teacher, and so had a small instrument among his personal effects (a violin, or a flute) that he uses to "speak" Eridian himself.
I don't think Victorian Grace would mentally name his new friend "Rocky". That seems too informal for someone he just met. Maybe, on the assumption that this is another scientist, he dubs him "Dr. Stone"?
Of course, that means we can't have the absent mate being named "Adrian". Maybe Grace picks the name of a gemstone?
Unfortunately, it's far more likely that Victorian Stratt has to be a man. Unless... she's the monarch of something, and has taken charge of the project from there?
I genuinely don't know what Victorian audiences would have made of the final twist regarding how Grace got onto the Hail Mary. Would it render him contemptible to them--a coward who tried to save his own skin at the cost of the world, rather than stoically answering the call? Would they be relieved on his behalf that Stratt took the choice out of his hands, pressed him into doing the Right Thing, and never even told anyone his shameful secret? Would they have any thought to spare for his sense of panic and powerlessness and betrayal in his final conscious moments on Earth? Well, maybe they would, after all. This was an audience for whom Crimping would be, if not still-extant practice, then much more recent memory.
since becoming a barista i have noticed a few very distinct typologies among my customers. such as:
the woke left: young and fashionable. visible tattoos. often enjoys matcha, lavender flavoring, oat milk, and cold foam. pretty decent customers.
sweet old man: drinks very sweet iced lattes, pays in cash, puts all of his change in the tip jar. sometimes orders hot coffee and i get scared that his shaky old man hands will spill it and he'll get burned but that has not yet happened and god willing never shall.
evil old man: only wants drip coffee and declares it ridiculous that any other form of coffee exists. some variants only want americanos and these variants are even scarier. watch out.
sweet old woman: might need her daughter's help to order but is very bubbly and open to trying new things. compliments baristas freely and frequently.
evil old woman: does not want coffee and only wants sweet tea or soda. will not tip even if she spends three hours in the shop repeatedly asking baristas to fetch things for her.
errand husband: either stiltedly recites an order to you or shows you the order in their texts/notes app. needs to step out of line and make a phone call if you ask any follow-up questions.
grindset girlie: always wearing scrubs, an apron, and/or a name tag. orders the exact same thing every day and knows the exact change she'll need to pay for it. her regular order is both extremely caffeinated and extremely sweet.
#mamabear: is actively wrangling two to four children while ordering. order changes repeatedly because the children cannot decide if they want a muffin or a cookie or apple juice or chocolate milk etc. for some reason these women are always wearing an article of clothing or carrying some personalized item that says "mama" on it.
schoolchildren: band of two to eight adolescents hanging out after school. extremely indecisive but generally quite polite and tip well.
amnesiac in love: grown adult who needs their partner to tell them what they like. gets asked a question about their own preferences and turns to their partner to answer for them. generally acts like a shy child looking to their guardian for behavioral cues if you try to interact with them and only wants to talk to mommy i mean their wife.
this of course is not an exhaustive list but those are just some of the most consistent Types i get. ok bye xoxo