You said you're a pro shipper? That means problematic shipper which means that you either ship abusive relationships or children with adults, etc. do you ship those or something gross like that?
my brother in christ you cannot be more wrong and I'm so tired. also if you ask a random stranger this in real life, a random stranger who's mature enough to understand the difference between fiction and reality, they will look at you like you speak gibberish.
proship stance = anti harassing real people over goddamned fiction. your kink is not my kink and that's okay. don't like don't read. there are some prompts that trigger the fuck out of me. I don't read it. I don't even like it. but I will defend its rights to exist because
1.) it is fiction
2.) no one in real life is harmed
3.) it cannot harm you unless you go searching for it, knowing it will upset or trigger you
4.) a lot of victims and survivors cope and heal through fiction, a safe and controlled environment
5.) censorship is a fascist tool. once you allow one thing to be censored because someone somewhere doesn't want it to exist, anything and everything can and will be censored.
but if you want to know my ship, it's myself and your dad ❤️
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it is so funny and important to me personally that Armand does not leave that humiliationfest until Lestat describes him as bad/boring in bed.
because you cannot tell me that wasn't the worst part for Armand XD i mean; let's run down everything (negative) Lestat says about him. he...
calls him as depressed/emo
says he has a resting bitch face
calls him unkempt/dirty/ugly (in many different terms)
tells him (effectively) that his trauma is no justification for the state of him / that others suffer the same but clean up much nicer
calls him a control freak and a spoilsport
calls him ableist / very judgemental (in context of the Great Laws)
implies that he never lets anyone truly close to him / would sooner murder someone than let them know him (i know that's in the context of the Great Laws too, but like hell was it not also about Armand's character)
calls him a dictator / judge-jury-executioner (in context of the Great Laws, but lbr def not just that)
describes him narcissistic / full of himself
implies he is either a slut and/or desperate
mocks him for talking too much / being a bore
implies that he tried to rape him (in a way that leaves it open to interpretation / gives 'easier' interpretation of him just being extremely boring, but nonetheless)
calls him a crybaby
implies he craves validation (from him specifically), but sucks in bed
now none of that is very nice / smth anyone wants to hear about oneself :''D but as if the last one isn't the most intimate, most cutting one.
(and before you say that the rape implication is much worse: it's phrased ambiguously enough that anyone unaware of the real events would mostly likely not guess at it, so it's not actually the worst thing in public humiliation terms. also.... harsh as that sounds, it's a fact. Lestat still being upset about it is not news to Armand, i'd wager. the other thing.... do you think Lestat ever called Armand's sexual prowess lacking to his face, before? somehow, i can't quite see it.)
((and before you say well, but what if they never actually fucked. Armand's been telling everyone that they have: Lestat now effectively (in the public eye) 'confirming' it with the addition "he wasn't good tho" is still humiliating af :''D))
You don’t like the line where Daniel referred to Louis as a bucket of Louisiana fried chicken… GOOD, you’re a decent human. It’s not supposed to make you feel good. That’s the POINT. The older white man who has been extremely rude, and crass and slightly homophobic, and racially insensitive, and throws terms like “battered wife” and “rent boy” around got WORSE after vampirism… surprise fucking surprise.
You don’t like when Lestat, Louis, and Daniel toss around Armand’s sex slave trauma…GOOD, you’re a decent human. It’s not supposed to make you feel good. That’s the point, to make you aware that your fave can be just as shitty as every other character. You’re not supposed to put them on a pedestal, they’re characters not ROLE MODELS.
Y’all want complex characters until they stop making you feel good. Until they challenge your sensibilities. Until they reflect reality too close for comfort.
You can feel however you want about the show, or writing, or characters (that’s your right and you were going to do it anyways). But to the viewers that are like “I hate it and I hate anyone that doesn’t share my very specific and very personal view points 🫨😡🫨”, just stop watching 😐 Stop torturing yourself and everyone else with your self prescribed masochism which is the show you claim to hate.
There’s a difference between calling out racism in the fandom (of which there is plenty) but shooting shots wildly into the crowd because the show gave you too big emotions that you refuse to process without lashing out is tired.
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Heya do you have any theories about the long table shot from the extended trailer where Daniel's head bursts through the celing?
Hi! 👋🏾
So yeah, I have some... ruminating... thoughts about it. Nothing for sure, however. But I don't mind giving some of the thoughts I've had about it after we got Lestat's subconscious version of Magnus referencing it in EP 3x03.
So first, let's look at the shot in question:
Now, I know I'm not alone in thinking this is some type of hallucination/dream sequence.
Now, in EP 3x03, this is what Magnus said about it:
We eat your soul at the long table. 68 courses so far. We keep waiting for the bill, but the plates keep coming.
I think the "we" Magnus is talking about is just himself. He is eating at Lestat's soul. Which, you know, makes sense, given what Magnus did to him and the trauma Lestat still carries about it.
But another thing Lestat carries about what Magnus did to him is wondering why. Why did Magnus decide to give him the Dark Gift, instead of just letting Lestat be one of the failures -- the other blond young men that Magnus kidnapped, assaulted, and then just killed instead of turning? That is something that, in the books, Lestat also carries about it all.
And, at least from all the screeners who have seen the first six episodes, this shot above is not in the first six episodes. Meaning, the shot is very likely going to be in EP 3x07, the title of which is "The Failures." (And which is also the title of Lestat's audio album/diary about all these events.)
68 courses so far. We keep waiting for the bill, but the plates keep coming.
So what if the 68 courses are... actually the number of young blond men, before Lestat, that Magnus kidnapped, assaulted, and killed? Because remember, Lestat was with Magnus for a week before he was force-turned. And he said that during that time, Magnus kept him locked in the tower with the look-alike corpses.
Maybe... Lestat counted the number of corpses that were there with him? Though I don't know if that jibes with the line about the plates that keep coming, but...
Okay, anyway, the next reference to the long table is when Magnus names those who are sitting around it by a moniker and not their names... except for Claudia, who is the only one he outright names.
And who, if you notice, is the only one who isn't at the table. However, I do believe the empty seat to the right of Lestat is the seat that is her's. So, IMO, Claudia hasn't arrived yet, or... she's already left.
As to all the others around the table? Well, as others besides me have said, we know all of them, except for TC, appear to be Lestat's feldglings -- Gabby, Nicki, Louis, and Antoinette. And if Claudia is just not there yet, or has already left, that would mean all of his fledglings would be at that table.
Though... Claudia could be missing from the table for another reason. Maybe for a reason we've yet to see, but will in EP305 and/or EP306. I'll just say there was a spoiler given in a review before the season started about a character who is coming in this season, who hasn't shown up yet, but I do believe will soon... and who is tied to something regarding Claudia.
And so what happens with that character regarding Claudia could also maybe account for Claudia not being at the table. But that is just pure speculation at this point.
Anyway, again, TC is the one exception to the feldgling thing, at least given what we know so far. But that doesn't mean that she couldn't be turned between what eps we've seen up to this point and this moment in EP7. We have no way to know at the moment.
Though I will say, for a bit now, I've thought all the band members would get worse endings in the show than in the books.
As to why they are all gathered at the table... for some reason I feel, at least right now, it relates to Lestat feeling that he has failed each of them in some way, given the title of the episode this moment appears to be in. And Lestat is confronting and dealing with any feelings he holds about having failed them in specific ways, and trying to move forward from that.
But at the moment, that explanation feels a little too simple to me. Though it is all I've got right now. 🤷🏾♀️
Book-related side note, however: in Queen of the Damned, there comes a point when all the "main" vampires -- as it were -- all sit together, with Akasha, at a long table as she explains her take-over-the-world plan. And then, in the Prince Lestat Trilogy, the ruling council of the vampire court also sits at a long table together as well.
So this table above could be a foreshadowing of those two long tables that I feel certain are coming, given where the story is going, as well. In fact, Gabriella, sitting at one end, while Lestat sits at the other, kind of gives off that "dark monarch" vibe that they were discussing in EP3x04
The Monarchy of Darkness, in fact....
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Oh, as to why Daniel's head is looking down at them all from the ceiling? Probably to emphasize the surreal, dream/hallucination nature of it, of course, which we've gotten much of this season. Anything more than that, however, I'll hold off on speculation about it for now.
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ETA: Because I think @deadliestpieceontheboard gives a much better interpretation/reading of the "68 courses" thing Magnus says than I did:
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I think Lestat is wearing vintage kurofurisode (with new lining) as a robe. Obviously he chose the most dramatic kimono type, obviously. Amazing. Beautiful. Brilliant. I love it.
i love the writing and acting choices that went into that "i think". "our vampire bond, i think". meaning this is not what usually happens and it's confusing even me, armand, the 500 years old vampire who turned you. meaning i am not sure exactly how much of this is the bond and how much the love we share. meaning i am just as unsettled as you are by the magnitude of our connection. it is fucked, yes, that after all this time and all the pain i remain capable of feeling what i feel for you. it is fucked that it took this long for someone to feel it for me.
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This is the scene those freaks on X were calling 'written as consensual' and that just Sam acted as distressed.
Mind you, I have written consensual incest in the ASOIAF fandom and this ain't it, mate.
He looks deeply distressed all the way through it. And is not only the actor, is the way they shot it, the way it's presented. Not to mention the way this is after she did her monologue basically announcing how inhuman she is, to the point other vampires are unnerved at her coldness.
To quote Goth Grandma: A bad human and a bad vampire.
Bonus to add and how fucked up this is for him:
Because she is not human, darling. In a way that even vampires are too human for her. You are an obsession. She wants to crawl under your skin and have the power she thinks you have, but there is no real love there.