The Seanchan are an objectively terrible culture. I don't think anyone, including the people who like certain Seanchan characters, disagrees with that. (If you do, scram! You're not welcome here.)
That said, a lot hinges on the time period in which Robert Jordan began writing. The Seanchan serve multiple narrative purposes and are tailored to fulfill them.
First, the Seanchan culture. All cultures in the Wheel of Time are meant to look both alien and familiar. History not only repeats, it remixes, and the Seanchan combine elements of multiple powerful cultures. Some of them are signals, like the Deep South accents. Some are mostly there to make them look more alien (to RJ's anticipated audience). I understand that some people consider this combinatorial approach gross and appropriationist. All I can say is that at the time, we were seeing just the opposite: humans are just humans and no cultural element is intrinsic to anyone's being; that was what it meant, back then, to be a good multicultural person.
Second, the first role the Seanchan play in the story is to be a *colonial power*. RJ is clearly suggesting: "Hey, European descendants, this is what it looks like when a 'superior culture' descends on your homeland." We have already identified with the protagonists; now we get to see them (and by extension, ourselves) in the role of the colonized. This sort of cultural turnabout is now seen, at best, as overdone, and often as deeply misguided and insulting. Whatever you think of it, remember that at the time it was a smoking hot take. The Seanchan are only mildly technologically ahead of our protagonists, but there are certain extremely key developments that make them hard to beat: the a'dam, the tight organization, and the frikkin' *Air Force*. RJ takes the classical European conception of a medieval/early Renaissance army, and then he puts it up against artillery and an air force. Barring almost literal divine intervention, the side we identify with gets smoked. This could be construed as a sort of war porn; I am convinced it is not. It is RJ saying "Imagine yourselves as the Powhatan people."
But why, then, are the Seanchan so necessary to the fight against the Dark One? Why aren't they simply malignant evil and maybe on his side? Well, again, history is remixed, not merely repeated. Third: the Seanchan are also playing the role of Soviet Russia. This is the early '90s. The USSR is the Evil Empire (Now in Collapse), but RJ knows his history. The USSR were our genuine allies, when the enemy was Nazi Germany. That did not make them "good guys", per se. If the war had been only Germany vs. Russia, the victor would scarcely have mattered; the result would be a monstrous dictatorship ruling all Europe. And yet if Russia had not been in it at all, the remaining Allies would have been far harder pressed. I don't know enough history to say "The Axis might have won." But literarily: the Axis might have won. That was the nightmare AU scenario that ruled alternate-history sci-fi. I know a lot of you younger folks are socialists and some of you are tankies. Set that aside for a moment and understand: to much of three generations, Soviet Communism was every bit as monstrous as the Seanchan. And *we had to rely on them anyway*, or lose to an enemy even worse. That's the situation RJ has set up for his protagonists.
So why have Mat fall for the Empress? Well, for the narrative of triumph. Today we look back on a lot of mistakes and wonder (or are sure we know) where it all went wrong. But RJ started just in time for the USSR to collapse. We thought it was the end of history and liberal democracy was victorious over all. It was time to put aside old hatreds and rivalries, and by doing so we would win the remaining, crumbling antagonists over to our side. During the war, you punch Nazis (and Commies, too, when it's their turn), but when the war is over and their defeat is plain, you bury the hatchet precisely so history doesn't repeat. That was how most of us thought at the time. If only it had worked out that way.
"The Seanchan are an objectively terrible culture."
I always love this kind of appraoch in the fandom on the topic of analyzing Seanchan. Objectively always taken with one sided view around.
If we know anything after reading the Wheel of Time, it is that nothing there has just one face.
Is the real culture of real Roman empire objectively terrible because they had slavery too? What about the British empire or even the ancient Mesopotamans? Slavery is not the only thing that defines one culture to be "objectively terrible".
BUT DAMANE!!! most of fans will scream in terror. Give me a break. Fans don't even know why damane existed in the first place. A big chunk of fans literally cannot tell what is the actual reason why the Seanchan's society accepted damane's existence but fans are eager to judge on the spot. (And no, it is not just because some random Aes Sedai made a ter'angreal as this still doesn't explain why Seanchan accepted it.) Robert Jordan created one interesting moral dilemma with that reason why and no one even tries to acknowledge it and analyze the chronology of what we know so far - what happened in Seanchan, what were the obstacles there that let to the horrible situation and what is the mindset of random Seanchan citizen (or noble) on the matter. Not one word about that. Always on one side.
unmarkedcards made some really good points (because the above is not directed personally to you, pal) but still this is only part of the whole picture that Robert Jordan wanted to present with the balance of good versus evil.
And for the record, yes, Seanchan are "subjectively" terrible, I am not even close to deny their crimes and I do not defend their actions and this is not apologist post.
I think the role of the Seanchan is to spur the good guys to be better.Ā Near the end of their arcs, the taāveren all learn important lessons or make changes in their lives because of their interactions with them, and of course, it was the Seanchan who drove them to use the Horn of Valere. Rand gives up politics and Daes Daemar, Perrin grows into his lordship and Mat embraces his role as a military commander, to deal with the Seanchan or in reaction to their encounters with them.Ā It is the Seanchan attack that really exposes the rot in the White Tower beyond what even the Aes Sedai can deny or spin. Even in the alternate dark future, the Aiel are destroyed in a way that illustrates their cultural shortcomings and blind spots, by the Seanchan.Ā
And as a slave society, that does a number of things much better than the wetland nations or leadership, you get the questionĀ If they can do it, why canāt theĀ āgoodā guys?Ā Why canāt the wetland nations establish a system of justice that acknowledges the rights of all members of society, and holds the leaders to account, where they really and truly believe in their version of equality to the point that Seanchan generals are uncomfortable acknowledging the objective fact that locally-recruited troops are objectively inferior to those from Seanchan.Ā
Itās probably not an accident that the forces Rand takes to fight the Seanchan include the two most morally questionable nations outside the Empire, as well as the most prominent Ashaāman to include the Darkfriends and future renegades.Ā Rand is trying to fight the slavers with aristocrats who abuse their people and Dreadlords-in-training.Ā His campaign is bloodier than he anticipated, and it goes badly when he exceeds his original mission parameters of defending a land that follows him, and instead decides to conquer a new country/city he has no more right to rule than the Seanchan do. And when he blows up his own army taking out the Seanchan, Rand learns the lesson that heās not supposed to be the politician, heās supposed to be the messiah.Ā He has not come to lead one people against another, but against the Shadow.Ā
And of course, this is ultimately yet another of those wars of men fighting men, instead of uniting for the struggle with the Shadow.Ā They form the ultimate argument.Ā If the Seanchan are not what they are, Perrinās willingness to doĀ anything to get Faile back can be questioned.Ā If Rand and others can make peace with the Seanchan in order to fight the Last Battle more effectively, then why canāt everyone else put aside their lesser grievances with people who donāt have slaves?Ā If the imperialist, colonialist slave state can step up and do their part against the Shadow, how can anyone who aspires to be better do less?Ā






















