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Maedhros & Maglor for @feanorianweek — the tragedy they wrought. Procreate drawing. I almost missed Fëanorian Week this year, but I managed to draw a few things for it after all!

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actually the best part of an AU where Annatar simply does not revert to evil, but does eventually admit to having been evil, is if he stays on good terms with Khazad-Dum forever and one day in the mid-Third Age the dwarves palantir-call him like, “Hey, Annatar, we think we found one of your old guys? Could you come get them out of our mineshaft?”
Celebrimbor, leaning over Annatar’s shoulder: ‘One of his old guys’ as in a Maia, or as in an evil monster?
Dwarves: Yes. That is, it killed Durin, and the survivors of his party say it was a nightmare of fire and darkness.
Annatar: We’ll be right there.
Annatar a couple days later, peering down a deep, deep mineshaft both physically and spiritually: Holy shit, it’s Dave. [to Celebrimbor] Star-gem, stand back. Everyone else, too. [leans further down the shaft] HEY, DAVE, KNOCK IT OFF! I’M TRYING TO RUN A FAIR AND STABLE GLOBAL ECONOMY UP HERE!
[fiery rumblings from the deep well of darkness]
Annatar: A little farther back, guys.
Annatar: [breathes back in some of the power he’s left gently scattered around Middle Earth over the last several millennia, for just this sort of thing. Grows 3 feet in height, features turn somewhat lupine, whole form catches flame, with a crown of darkness that also burns]
Annatar, sonorously speaking twisted ancient tongues: SO HELP ME MELKOR, DAVE, GET YOUR ASS UP HERE BEFORE I COME DOWN THERE AND HAND IT TO YOU.
Newly-titled Durin’s Bane, arising in might of shadow and flame, also speaking twisted ancient tongues: Gorthaur! Long have I awai—
Annatar, slamming them against the opposite wall and hissing in black and monstrous eldritch tongues: Listen up you little shit. The Lord is gone until the Battle of Battles so I am in charge now, and I have a good thing going right now. I could summon an army led by scions of Lúthien. I control interest rates in empires of all three major races of sentient incarnates. The last and greatest part of the House of Fëanor is bound to my will.
Celebrimbor, happily married for nearly 3000 years now, has definitely become at least conversational in a variety of black and/or ancient tongues in that time: [waves on cue]
Nain, newly crowned King of Moria: [whispering] What are they saying?
Celebrimbor: [whispering] Annatar is catching them up on current events in a manner they’ll understand. We’re thinking we’ll relocate them to an isolated volcano in the far east, if this goes well.
Annatar, still in full villainous boss monologue mode: —so you are going kneel and tamp yourself down right fucking now, and apologize to these dwarves for killing their king—who was a Durin by the way, so, way to go on not even getting a permakill, Dave. Then you are going to follow me out of this place without destroying anything else, and then maybe, maybe, I will not flay you down to a three-note earworm and feed you to the Sea. Capiche?
This is now a Durin’s Bane Dave the Balrog/Maglor shipping blog. Reasoning:
Very old monsters all alone, left behind by changing times, enemies but finding comfort in each other
Dave, grumbling: Fucking Gorthaur. I could fuck a Fëanorian too if I wanted to—hey, you, loser on the beach!
Genuinely cannot get over how perfect Halbrand as a name is I would like to give the writer who came up with it a huge kiss.
Like, in the most common Sindarin interpretation, the name consists of the elements hall- "exalted, high" and brand "noble, admirable, fine." HOWEVER, hall- can also mean "veiled, hidden, or shadowed." Already, just at first pass, it's a great name for a Sauron in disguise, because it captures a duality and ambiguity that keeps you guessing, just like the character himself. It's also a callback to Sauron's first name, Mairon, which means "admirable."
BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!
Tolkien often took name roots with Germanic origins for his human characters, particularly the Middle Men. In Old English, hal can mean "a secret place" or "whole, undivided" and brand can mean either "torch" or "sword"--a good combination of meanings, given that the entire Southlands arc revolves around a "lost king" uniting his country, only for it to be consumed in fire by a sword being put in a secret lock. Plus, there's the combination of "torch" and "sword" in brand that evokes smithing, especially with the more Modern English use of a "brand" being a mark that is made with heated metal.
And we're not done yet!
In Old Norse, the name element hall comes from hallr "stone, slab," and much like in Old English brandr means "sword, torch." Again, "stone sword" is a very apt name given that putting the hilt in stone is the way to open the floodgates. AND, I don't think it's any coincidence that there's another famous lost king who pulls a sword from a stone... yeah, they snuck a King Arthur reference in there!
Some linguistics nerd on the team really went, "I am going to give this dude the NAMIEST NAME THAT HAS EVER NAMED. It is going to be multilayered and work in several languages and remain just ambiguous enough that even if people [read: me] are crazy enough to look up its meanings they won't get a definitive answer." And that was so sexy of them, my hat is off to them for doing a fantastic job.
Hamid, gesturing at Ed: A himbo must - must - be kind, beefy, and stupid.
Hamid, gesturing at Zolf: Kind and beefy? That’s just a hunk.
Hamid, gesturing at Bertie: Only beefy and stupid? That’s just a jock.
Hamid, gesturing at Barnes: Only kind and stupid? That’s just a decent man!

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jon, melanie, and daisy all directly state that they chose to do the things they did while in thrall to their various patrons because it felt good and they wanted to, and a lot of fan response doesn't really know how to deal with that and so overlooks those statements, but even people who are really into melanie as a character seem to straight up ignore her "it stayed because I wanted it" thing. and that sucks, because removing that motivation from the bullet arc turns her into a damsel being possessed and held hostage by an evil ghost until a man makes the hard decision to save her, instead of her actual role as an complex agential character making decisions in response to conflicting influences in a fraught situation.
the mistake jon and basira make with melanie is that they assume she's completely out of control. sure, they still probably wouldn't have had any other better options even if they'd understood her situation, but they don't recognize her active role in what she's doing, which I think contributes to why they make the choice to operate on her without her consent. they think that she is the passive object of the slaughter's influence, which primes them to see her as the passive object to their rescue. they don't understand that not only are they working without her consent but they are actively going against what she has been wanting, and they are unprepared for how to properly respond and provide support after doing that to her.
taking poison damage from thinking too hard about how tma capitalizes on the horror of not having all the information by slowly taking away said information from the listener
elaborating: seasons 1-3 are firmly rooted in the viewpoint of Jon. The audience knows just as much as he does about the goings on around him, and sometimes even more (such as with Sasha being killed by the not!them). There are very few points in which Jon has more information than the audience, and most of said information is discovered and deciphered within the confines of the podcast episodes.
Season 4 is where this starts to change. A lot of this can be attributed to the fact that Jon is rapidly developing supernatural knowledge, but at the same time this is basically giving him a get out of jail free card. As the audience, you assume Jon is still giving you the information when he finds it, because that's what he's been doing up until this point. You assume he's still doing all this for the noble cause of saving the world. Hell, it's not even until over halfway through season 4 that you learn he's been stalking people and taking their statements (the guy who does have a history of stalking, of paranoia, of taking things to far - but you don't want to think about that, because he's the protagonist, the voice you're supposed to trust), and only then does the audience fully come to realize how much he's been lying to you and how little you can take his words at face value.
And then there's season 5. If seasons 1-4 were spent looking over Jon's shoulder, season 5 is spent looking over Martin's - the man who does not have eldritch knowledge, who doesn't wish to know every little detail about the horrible world he's found himself in, whose only source of information is from his partner who is trying to protect him from what he did. And at that point...you really cannot say anything about what's going on in Jon's head for definitive fact aside from what he explicitly says out loud. You're stuck with a bundle of uncertainties. You don't know how they're going to put the world back. You don't know Jon is planning to kill Helen before he's at her front door. You don't know Jon is going against the group's plans until he's already at the top of the Panopticon. You're not the watcher anymore - you're the one being watched.
Didn't know about that Corruption theory before (and didn't wanna reblog the post for spoilers) but now I'm curious, what other theories did people have while the show was still airing? I joined the fandom around 160 so anything before that is a mystery to me.
Referencing this post (beware, it has spoilers for The Magnus Protocol).
Oh goodness, so so many. Only a few that I remembered off the top of my head, but I spent some time today trawling the depths of my "magnus archives speculation/analysis" tag and found a couple more fun ones.
Most of the ones I did remember are either still popular headcanons (Web!Martin), or actually turned out to be canon (Jonah!Elias). The Gertrude one always stuck in my head because it's very silly on the surface but also draws attention to the fact of like - how was her skin still in good enough condition to wear after being buried for months? (And Lietner's too, for that matter). Was Nikola just wearing really tattered rotten shreds???
Anyway. Some that I remembered, which all relate to Martin for some reason:
Backup Archivist: Heading into the Unknowing, Elias had Martin reading statements specifically to train him to be a stand in Archivist in case Jon died. Also included sub-theories that he could end up able to compel people on his own, share the role with Jon, or take over entirely if the show pulled a bait-and-switch and Martin was the real protagonist all along.
Who's the Father?: Every single possible theory about who Martin's dad was and what implications that could have on the show, from Leitner to Elias to Peter Lukes to that one dude Peter banished to the Lonely in his statement in 159.
Schwartzwald Cousins: Albrecht von Closen says he and Clara/Carla had trouble having kids in his first statement, but in a later episode says they have two boys. Part 1 of the theory was that the kids were actually avatars who'd emerged from the mausoleum after Albrecht disturbed it, and been adopted by the childless couple. Part 2 was - well - it's canon that Gerry is descended from one of these kids. The theory was, what if Martin was descended from the other? Gerry seems to have some Eye powers linked to his heritage and upbringing, so it was speculated that Martin might turn out to have some as well and be important to either Elias's plans, or to thwarting him (this tied into the Backup Archivist theory nicely). A sub-theory was that they were significantly closer cousins, Martin's mum's maiden name had been Keay, and Martin K. Blackwood was Martin Keay Blackwood all along.
And the ones that I found in the tag (credit in brackets):
Martin’s mum was a runaway Lukas (@/centaurianthropology, here)
The lighter was linked to the Desolation (@agnesmontague) + an addition by me that I'm so proud of in hindsight - "I think the web design pretty much confirms that it’s linked to the Web, but if it’s the Desolation as well, might it be linked to the other occasions we’ve seen those two powers interact? Namely, the ever mysterious Hill Top Road?" (Here)
Another of my posts that I'm delighted to reread (here) reminded me of the many, many, "what's up with the tapes?" theories. I remember "the tapes are sent by the Web", "the tapes are sent by Elias", "the tapes are manifestated unconsciously by Jon" (my personal favorite, sadly disproven), and I think there were also some "the tapes are Gertrude's ghost" posts???
Elias was the Eye the same way Michael was the Spiral - Gertrude sacrificed him to stop the Watcher's Crown (@/statementbegins, here)
Also reading through these is reminding me that there was a stretch where we were calling the Vast and Lonely the "Void" and "Isolation", which I love.
This is just a select few posts from 2018, so there's a lot more under the tag if you're interested in looking! Link below, copy and paste into a web (lol) browser because the archive (lmao) page doesn't work on the app.
https://cirrus-grey.tumblr.com/archive/tagged/magnus%20archives%20speculation%2Fanalysis
If anyone else remembers other old theories please feel free to drop them in the notes! I know there were so many more that I don't have saved.
it's finally done!! this comic took me about 26h 20min (and an overall time of over 2 months) and is based on the fic with the same name, written by @advena-perditus (you can find it here. check it out, it's very good)
a note: I'm still working on improving the designs of Tim and Sasha (I accidentally made Not!Sasha more similar to how I imagine Sasha, so I'll have to work on that, but I wasn't going to change the entire drawing for it), but I'm overall quite happy with how it turned out :)
Man fulfilled my dream and got the fuck away from it all into the woods, it's funny to imagine him living in an abandoned cabin trying to hunt and all that, such a pathetic man

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was considering what genderbent tma characters might look like then pictured a scholarly soft butch fem!jon and almost blacked out
y'know what actually I understand Martin so well now. if my uptight and slightly mean academic boss openly hated my guts I too would be down bad for her.
the thing I really enjoy about oliver banks is that he's got such a long character arc and we get three statements directly from him at distinct points along his path of becoming. we know other minor character avatars for similar amounts of time, but we tend to see them from outside points of view or get their life stories in retrospect once they've completed monsterfication, whereas oliver makes his own statements 1) when he's still mostly human in 2015, 2) just after he's properly crossed the avatar threshold in 2018, and 3) when he is decidedly mostly of his patron the apocalypse, all of which parallels the stages of jon's journey.
in mag 121, he makes a point of calling jon "jon" over "the archivist" because he says "archivist" is too formal, and in mag 168 he refers directly to jon two times. the first is at the top of his coroner's report, where he denotes it as being addressed to "the great eye" and "its archive, which draws knowledge of this suffering unto itself," referring to jon both with the more dehumanizing of his avatar titles and with an "it" pronoun. the second time is towards the end, where he calls jon "jon" and expresses that he isn't asking for mercy and that he would have offered this report willingly if that were still an option.
he never comes across as having any particular kind of feelings about the fear he harvests. he started off as quite anxious and desperate to avoid his patron, but it never turns into pleasure like it does with other avatars, he just stops caring, and I wonder how much of that is due to the nature of the end as a power and how much is due to the lack of choice he had in his path. some combination thereof, probably.
fun fact: the first time I heard mag 142 scrutiny, I half thought that this was some sort of jon doppelganger going out and harassing people, like maybe it was a pseudo not-them situation, and I think that mistake speaks to something interesting that tma does with the nature of shifting identity and the not-them.
this is most explicit in distant cousin, where the statement giver muses for a while about how if you don't see someone for long enough then when you meet them again, you aren't really talking to them, you're talking to someone who existed years ago and the person before you is actually a complete stranger. when daisy gets out of the coffin, basira asks jon if she's been replaced, because this person is so unlike the daisy basira has always known. in contrast, the only person whose identity tim can ultimately be sure of is jon's, despite how massively the two of them have both changed and despite how people will specifically come to doubt jon's selfhood in the near future. I think about that one behind the scenes round table episode where alex says the directing note he gave to mike for later seasons tim was "you are not playing tim anymore, you are playing a completely different person who is still called tim." man.
It's a bit of the boiled frog metaphor, in a way. Jon and Tim (and Martin, for that matter) all changed alongside each other, so in a lot of ways they didn't notice the changes...and I think that goes along with the Not-Them, too, because its whole thing was that the only people it "missed" were people who didn't see it every single day. An estranged daughter. A distant cousin. A person who would rather chew off her own leg than spend a minute longer in the Archives than she had to. You don't really notice the changes in people you see every day until you suddenly stumble on something from before and marvel at the differences.
Basira didn't know Tim well enough to know he had changed so radically. Jon and Martin had been there every step of the way, Martin especially, and it was so gradual they probably didn't notice until it all boiled over. At the same time, I don't think Tim really recognized how different Jon was from the very beginning either. And of course neither of them noticed Martin was different, but Martin was fighting really hard not to show that he was anything other than what they expected/wanted/needed him to be (that's a whole separate post, I think).
Daisy was gone for six months, and the thing is that Basira didn't really know her. She knew the Hunt. Daisy came out of the Buried and tried to leave the Hunt behind, and Basira couldn't recognize her without it. Frankly, I'm not sure Daisy could recognize herself. Jon - and to a certain extent Melanie - had a bit of an advantage there, because they didn't know her that well, or really at all, before, so they had nothing to compare it to. All of them were meeting someone new, it was just that Basira was trying to shove this new person into the old person's role and getting frustrated that the pieces didn't fit even though the label was the same.
I think we all wanted the person described in MAG 142 to be some sort of doppleganger, too, especially since we hadn't seen any evidence of it beforehand. And I think it's very telling to your point that Martin immediately knew it wasn't...but also knew that Jon didn't want to do that, and needed help.

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