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Touya was always conventionally alone just so AFO could get him and say he was keeping tabs on the Todoroki family but in reality it was just Touya he kept his eyes on.
Well, the problem is he said he was keeping tabs ON ENJI.
Not on Touya or on the Todoroki family, but on Enji.
And it's a giant size mess story wise only marginally better of how Touya claimed before Enji turned number 1 he wanted to kill Shouto and never made a single attempt against his life in those months after he decided to join the league and Enji turned number 1, not even when they faced each other during the training camp, as he only worried to retreive Bakugou.
I mean, let's assume to get at Enji he kept his eyes on Touya who secretly train on Sekoto Peak FOR 13 YEARS without doing absolutely nothing.
As far as we know he doesn't approach him, he doesn't try to manipulate him, he just keeps his eyes on him in hope something happens. He just keeps his eyes on him and waits.
What if TOUYA NEVER STARTED A FIRE ON SEKOTO PEAK?
It's something completely random that doesn't even make sense in the story how Touya can't suddently snuff out his fire. It might not have ever happened for all AFO knew.
Hell, Enji could have done the smart thing and show up because, as far as we know, it wasn't like AFO held him back.
I mean, with Tomura AFO definitely orchestrated things starting from triggering Tomura's birth but what about Touya?
AFO is absolutely uninvolved in him, nothing could have happened and AFO could have still be watching him for all he knew... but okay, let's put this aside and let's assume AFO was still keeping tabs on him through some cam he placed on Sekoto Peak or maybe through another Quirk Horikoshi made up out of the blue for this purpose and that was never mentioned before, saw him burn and... waited to show up until Touya managed to toss himself in the river, snuffing out the fire on him before it cremated him into fine dust.
I mean, if Touya hadn't managed to snuff his fire out he would have turned into dust.
The fire was above 2,000Β°C.
Fire at or above 2,000Β°C will easily break down, incinerate, and calcine bone material, as it far exceeds the temperatures needed for bone combustion. While standard cremation operates between 900Β°C and 1000*C, bone mineral (hydroxyapatite) begins to break down, melt, and turn into brittle ash at temperatures exceeding 1,100Β°C.
I don't know how much material Garaki needs to make a Nomu but it might not have sufficied.
AFO should have rushed there as soon as Touya took fire if he wanted to be sure to find something salvageable for his masterplan which is... maybe he'll use him as a replacement for Tomura who is already with me by 5 years (as he took Tomura when he was 5 and Tomura should have been 10 when Touya burned) and is giving him no problems and doing very good. I can totally see a reason to replace Tomura, sure. AFO was having so many problems with him, we were told so many times that... no, actually we weren't.
Why AFO would replace Tomura with Touya, when Tomura is obedient and is a slap to All Might and a spit on Nana to annoy Enji with whom he hardly interacted is beyond me. The only explanation is 'oh but AFO is so evil! Surely he wants to hurt Enji too!'
Then why he waits THREE YEARS before waking Touya up and when things do not work he let him go because anyway Touya was going to die and NEVER TRY TO HURT ENJI'S FAMILY AGAIN?
We have hospitalized Rei, whom he could manipulate easily, we have 'desperate to have her family back' Fuyumi, we have angry Natsuo, who doesn't even acknowledge Enji as his father and we have golden boy Shouto who also hates Enji and on whom Enji isn't keeping his eyes every waking minute because, differently from what fanfics say, ENJI IS A PRO HERO VERY BUSY WITH HIS HERO WORK AND CAN'T KEEP ON MONITORING SHOUTO 24 HOURS AT DAY!
I mean there were 4 other people AFO could try to use in those 7 years between when Touya woke up and when he joined the League and AFO did nothing.
And he did nothing because Horikoshi hadn't planned this at all since Enji was originally meant to die in the previous war, Horikoshi had pulled it out last minute to make AFO even more evil and had created giant plot holes as a result because he didn't even know how to handle it well.
He could have fed Enji the story of how he actually manipulated Touya, encouraged him to pursue Hero career, of how he tricked him into assuming a variant of Trigger the day he burned, which was what lead him to lose control of his Quirk, he could have said he kept on checking on Touya so he knew he survived and lived on his own, actually he could have even said that Touya only believed he came back home but no, he was shown an illusion to break him and make him leave the Todoroki house but no, none of this happened.
AFO just picked up Touya and then, when Touya decided to leave, he let him go and washed his hands clean with the Todorokis only to remember in the middle of a battle that yeah, he had picked Touya up and SAVED HIM. Because with such burns it would have been unlikely Touya would have survived the time it would have taken for Enji to get there, find him and bring him to a hospital.
Burns over 80% of the body are very difficult to survive and Touya had burns over 100% of the body. Hell his jaw detatched from him! (and his legs and arms should have done the same...)
AFO teleported there but Enji didn't have such luxury nor he knew exactly where Touya was.
Really, the way Horikoshi presented the situation is a mess that shows how little he planned and cared about the Todorokis at this point.
Even Enji's oh so tragic past is clearly a late spurn of the moment and brushed over to the point it is completely forgettable.
This is so sad... I love the Todorokis and I wish he gave them more love too.
This is something I had wanted to talk about a long time ago.
First of all, deceive who? And why? I think AFO isnβt a 100% reliable narrator. I think heβs trying to give a very βreasonableβ explanation for his tears instead of admitting that he has emotions. I mean, βconfuseβ? Confuse who? Kudou? Why the hell would you want to confuse Kudou? The guy is literally on the verge of death already, and besidesβ¦
Kudou doesnβt even look that confused. The son of a bitch is literally smiling. Like "yeah, your brother call me daddy when we where-" Why would you want to confuse Kudou when the guy clearly doesnβt give a damn? More importantly, why would you want to confuse an opponent you already defeated and who is about to die anyway? Whatβs even the point of that?
The other option is that he was trying to confuse Yoichi. Which brings me back to the same question: why would you want to confuse your brother? Manipulate him? I donβt get it. In the Japanese text it also says he wanted to confuse him, but it doesnβt say manipulate, soβ¦ why? Did you want your brother to overthink whether he made the wrong decision? Were you trying to make him feel guilty? I swear thatβs not what it looks like. The word βconfuseβ here is just like: ?????
Besides, I donβt think those tears were fake. Just look at his eyes.
He genuinely looks furious XD
Look at the expression he has in his own memory.
Well, it's a reflection of how he felt inside, isn't it? That's why he looks so different on this panel than it did on the outside, which is equivalent to a bull ready to go through your stomach.
In my opinion, AFO is trying to convince himself that he doesnβt cry because crying is for βthe weak,β and the great demon lord would never cry unless it served some evil purpose, right?
Yoichiβs death genuinely affected him, and he clearly had very negative emotions toward Kudou, basically blaming him for everything. I think he felt rage at having the βthiefβ standing right in front of him, while realizing that even if he killed him, Yoichi had already been βstolenβ by someone else once again. I think those were tears of frustration and anger more than anything. AFO was around 25-30 years old back then, and at that point in his life, nothing had ever slipped out of his control. Itβs like telling a baby βnoβ for the first time and watching it fail to process the concept. Except this baby can level cities because humanity collectively decided quirks were a good evolutionary step. Spectacular species.
But he does have emotions. Heβs admitted it multiple times. For example:
So, in my opinion, backed up by the manga, those tears were real. All For One is capable of feeling emotions, and this man is completely incapable of accepting that he can cry, so he came up with a nonsensical excuse instead. But if you have a different opinion, feel free to share it or correct me if Iβm wrong. (ｑ´βο½)οΎ
i just noticed zenshigarakilover's blog says it was updated 6 days ago??? but it's still deactivated. did anyone catch this? did they post something then deactivate again? is tumblr just glitching? I'm so upset if they came back to post something and I missed it
Alias/Job: All For One
Affiliation: Villain [League of Villains]
Age: 127
Height: 7'4" (225 cm)
Build: Towering, formidable; deceptively lean under layers of scar tissue and life-support apparatus; Fair skin tone
Scars/Markings/Piercings: Entire head scarred heavily, eyes scarred over, heavy scarring on his shoulders, upper arms, torso and abdomen
Hair: Bald; Formerly white, short, and a little messy like he runs a hand through it often
Eyes: None visible; Formerly light grey with white pupils
Blood Type: Varies
Birthday: May 27
School: N/A
Rank: S Class Villain
Social Hierarchy: Human
Scent Profile: Ethanol, stainless steel, leather wax, wool
Omegaverse Only: Alpha
QUIRK: All For One
Type: Emitter
All For Oneβs original quirk allows him to steal quirks from others, use them as his own, and transfer them to other individuals. He has hoarded hundreds of abilities over the course of a century and can combine them for devastating compound effects.
Abilities:
Steals quirks through physical contact and adds them permanently to his ever-growing collection.
Redistributes stolen quirks to allies, Nomu, or experimental subjects at will.
Combines multiple quirks into complex, synergistic attacks that defy conventional limits.
Replicates and duplicates quirk factors for backup or mass distribution without losing the original.
Transfers quirks to non-human vessels, including animals and specially engineered Nomu.
Uses stockpiled quirks to create layered defenses, sensory enhancements, or reality-warping compound effects on demand.
Limitations:
Newer-generation quirks can strain or destabilize his body if they conflict with his existing collection.
Physical touch is required to steal a quirk, leaving him momentarily vulnerable during the process.
Avoids overly complex or highly developed quirks that could overwhelm his control or cause feedback damage.
Mutation-type quirks immediately alter his own physiology, so he only uses them for quick transfers or temporary boosts.
Overuse of high-output combinations risks catastrophic backlash if his body cannot stabilize the conflicting energies.
Equipment
Full-head life-support mask modeled after a stylized skull; dark navy blue with angular breathing tubes extending from the top and a wide, reinforced collar system encircling the neck and shoulders.
Integrated pipes and tubing connect front and back to a portable regulator unit hidden beneath his clothing, constantly filtering, oxygenating, and medicating his damaged respiratory system.
No additional weapons or combat gear; relies entirely on his stockpiled quirks and the maskβs life-support functions for survival and dominance.
Tailored dark suits and formal attire chosen to project the image of a trustworthy, unassuming businessman when he needs to move in public.
TITLE:
For more than a century All For One has existed as the unseen architect of villainy in Japan, a living shadow that shaped hero society from behind the curtain while the world believed he was merely a myth. To the underworld he is godfather, benefactor, and executioner β the man who can grant power, revoke it, or twist it into something unrecognizable. Once the arch-nemesis of All Might, he now operates through proxies and carefully groomed successors, most notably Tomura Shigaraki, whom he has molded into the perfect vessel for his will. His alias is not a name but a declaration: he is the one who takes everything and gives nothing unless it serves his design. In the end, every quirk, every life, every empire exists only because he allows it.
BACKGROUND:
Shigaraki Zen was born in the raw, blood-soaked dawn of the quirk era, when the world still reeled from the sudden appearance of superhuman abilities and the old order of law and morality crumbled overnight. From the moment he drew breath he was already something broken and hungry. His mother, a low-level emitter with a spear type quirk, died during one of the early riots that tore through the collapsing cities. Zen, barely old enough to walk, reached out with his nascent All For One and stole her quirk from her still-warm corpse. That single act crystallized everything he would become: a creature who viewed the world as a vast collection of things that either belonged to him or needed to be taken. He had no father to speak of, only his smaller twin, who he both named and dragged around as he pleased, seeing him as inherently belonging to Zen.
He spent the next several years wandering the ruins of cities that had once been orderly, stealing quirks from anyone who crossed his path. Some he killed outright. Others he left alive but broken, their abilities ripped away and added to the growing collection inside his body. He felt no guilt, no remorse, only a cold, calculating curiosity about how many powers he could hold before his body began to strain.Β
Yoichi was the sole exception to Zenβs absolute selfishness, though even that βloveβ was a form of ownership. Zen kept the frail, seemingly quirkless boy alive not out of affection but out of possession twisted into a facsimile of attraction. Yoichi was the one thing in the world that belonged to him completely, a living reminder that even in a world of chaos there was something Zen could claim as his own. He raised Yoichi in total isolation, and kept the boy fed, clothed, and sheltered, albeit sometimes only to the bare minimum.Β
What began as protective older-brother behavior quickly twisted into something darker. Zen would press Yoichiβs small hands to his own chest and force the boy to βfeelβ the power he had stolen, whispering that their bodies were meant to share everything. He would pin the smaller boy down, press their foreheads together, and whisper that Yoichiβs body and soul were his by right. It escalated quickly from there into systematic sexual abuse and repeated molestation. Zen would force Yoichi to share his bed, to sleep curled against him like a pet, to accept touches that blurred the line between protection and violation. He molested his brother repeatedly throughout their adolescence, always framing it as an act of ownership rather than cruelty, always murmuring that this was how family stayed together when the world was ending.
By his late teens Zen had already begun styling himself after the Demon Lord from the comic books Yoichi used to read to him in their cramped hideouts. The characterβs philosophy of ruling through fear and absolute power resonated with something deep and hollow inside him. He started gathering followers β not out of ideology, but because power attracted those who wanted to stand in its shadow. He built the foundations of what would eventually become his vast criminal empire, stealing quirks from heroes and villains alike and redistributing them to loyal subordinates who owed him their very existence. Yoichi, still kept as his personal prisoner and plaything, was the only one who dared speak against him.Β
Despite this, Zen kept Yoichi alive because he could not bear the idea of something that was his being taken away. When Yoichi finally rebelled, fleeing with the help of Kudo and Bruce and helping create One For All, Zen hunted him down without hesitation. The murder of his twin was brutal and spur of the moment, if Zen could not have Yoichi, no one could. However, even in death Yoichi remained a possession. Zen carried the memory of his brotherβs broken body like a trophy, a reminder that even love β or whatever twisted thing he felt for Yoichi β could be taken and destroyed when it no longer served him. And with this memory he began his hunt for the rebels who had helped free him, leading to a centuries long chase of the quirk factor that his late brother had passed along, unable to move on so long as even a spark of his dear little brother existed.
This obsession metastasized over time, until he no longer simply wanted to rule, he wanted to erase the single wound in his perfect collection. Over the next century he built an invisible empire from the shadows of the black markets. He cultivated ties with every major yakuza family that had survived his initial destructive era, including the Kazoku and the Shie Hassaikai, subtly steering their destinies across generations through favors, blackmail, and carefully placed quirks. He founded the underground support networks that would one day supply the League, created the first Nomu in secret laboratories, and began the long project of stockpiling quirks until his body became a living archive of stolen power.Β
He kept track of the progress of One For All, and manipulated the Shimura family to produce a successor, replacing the infantβs quirk with one of his own choosing for destruction years down the line. And when he found the orphaned and blood-soaked Tenko Shimura wandering the streets, Zen took the child in, renamed him Tomura Shigaraki, and began the same meticulous grooming process he had used on Yoichi nearly a century earlier. The mentorship was laced with calculated affection mixed with abuse and molestation. These manipulations were deliberate tools of control, designed to bind Tomura through shame, dependence, and twisted loyalty. Zen raised the boy to be both son and successor while planning, in the long term, to overwrite his consciousness entirely and claim the body as his own. Every kind word, every lesson, every night spent βcomfortingβ the traumatized child was part of the same possessive architecture he had once built around Yoichi. He exploited Tenkoβs trauma, fed his rage, and shaped his hatred until the boyβs entire identity revolved around the man who had both saved and destroyed him. All For One was proud of Tomuraβs growth in the same way a craftsman is proud of a weapon he has forged from scrap.
Later, when he discovered the severely burned and near-dead body of Todoroki Touya on Sekoto Peak, he saw another perfect tool. He had the boy collected, delivered to Doctor Garaki, and subjected to experimental nomuization techniques that brought him back from the brink. All For One placed the broken child in a specialized orphanage designed to monitor high-value quirk potentials, ensuring he would grow into something useful for the future he was already planning. Touya became another asset, another broken thing Zen could potentially remake, but the boy refused to follow the script he didnβt know he had agreed to and Zen decided to cut his losses, assuming the volatile teenager would die from his failing body in due time.
Years after that, the cataclysmic battle with All Might left Zen inches from death and was the first true interruption in his century-long game. Gravely wounded and forced to retreat into the black-market districts he had helped shape, Zen pulled his visible influence almost entirely. He hid behind layers of proxies, life-support systems, and carefully cultivated myths while his body slowly knit itself back together. The years of convalescence only sharpened his obsession. Yoichiβs absence remained the single missing piece in his grand design.Β
Everything β the League, the Nomu army, the grooming of Tomura, the quiet manipulation of hero society β is in preparation for the day he could finally reclaim his brotherβs power and, by extension, reclaim the only person who had ever truly belonged to him. Until that wound is healed, the world could wait. Zen has already lived for more than a century, he can afford to be patient. The Demon Lord is not dead, heβs simply waiting in the dark for the moment when every stolen quirk, every broken child, and every drop of blood would finally serve the singular purpose of making the collection whole again.
PERSONALITY:
Smug, arrogant, and hyper-intelligent, All For One presents himself as the calm, cultured architect of chaos. He is patient, eloquent, and unfailingly polite even while orchestrating atrocities. Beneath the refined exterior lies a being of pure, possessive entitlement who views the entire world as his personal collection.
Public Traits:
Exudes effortless superiority and calm confidence in every interaction.
Speaks with cultured, almost paternal warmth that disarms even hardened villains.
Hyper-aware of power dynamics and always positions himself as the one holding the strings.
Rarely raises his voice; uses quiet, measured words to convey absolute authority.
Treats everyone as either an asset or an amusement, never an equal.
Maintains an aura of untouchable invincibility even when physically weakened.
Enjoys long, philosophical monologues that reveal just enough to manipulate the listener.
Private Traits:
Deeply paranoid and obsessive about anything he considers βhis.β
Possessive to a pathological degree; once he claims something he will never willingly let it go.
Capable of genuine-seeming affection that is always transactional and self-serving
Finds quiet satisfaction in breaking people down and rebuilding them in his image
Views emotional attachments as useful tools rather than vulnerabilities.
Enjoys the long game of grooming and manipulation more than the act of destruction itself.
Emotional Range:
Amusement appears as a low, cultured chuckle that never quite reaches his scarred eyes.
Satisfaction shows in the subtle relaxation of his posture when a plan unfolds perfectly.
Irritation is cold and precise, expressed through polite disappointment rather than anger.
Obsessive longing surfaces only in rare, unguarded moments as a quiet, almost wistful tone.
Pride in his creations (Tomura, etc.) is genuine but always laced with ownership
Rage is terrifyingly calm and calculated, never explosive
Rare moments of melancholy appear only when reflecting on the one thing he has never been able to reclaim.
Ideology: All For Oneβs moral compass is entirely self-referential. He believes power is the only truth and that those who possess it have the natural right to take whatever they desire. His ultimate goal is to rule unchallenged, but that ambition has narrowed to a single, obsessive prerequisite: reclaiming Yoichi and One For All. Until he possesses his brother once more, every scheme, every proxy, every act of cruelty is merely preparation. He sees no value in conventional morality or justice; they are chains invented by the weak. A world that submits to him is the only world worth creating, but first the missing piece must be returned.
Core Contradiction: For a man who claims to embody pure, egocentric evil and insists he has no mortal attachments, All For One is pathologically fixated on the very few people he has ever claimed as βhis.β He lies even to himself about his lack of sentimentality, yet he cannot move on from Yoichiβs loss or from the need to possess Tomura completely. His intelligence is undercut by the emotional development of a spoiled, possessive child who throws calculated tantrums when something he owns is taken away. He pretends indifference to how others perceive him, but his entire empire is built around ensuring that no one ever truly escapes his grasp.
Psychological Framework: Zen thinks in terms of ownership and collection. Every person, every quirk, every relationship is either something he possesses or something he intends to possess. He intellectualizes his cruelty as natural law β the strong take, the weak are taken β while using long-term manipulation as his preferred method of control. Trauma from his own chaotic childhood taught him that vulnerability is fatal, so he eliminated it by making everyone else vulnerable to him instead. His obsession with Yoichi is the single fracture in his otherwise perfect facade; it is the one thing he cannot logic away or replace. He grooms successors like Tomura not because he needs heirs, but because he needs vessels that could function as extensions of himself. Every act of kindness, every word of encouragement, is a calculated move in a game only he understands. He is not chaotic. He is methodical, patient, and terrifyingly consistent in his need to own.
Psychopathology:
Antisocial Personality Disorder with narcissist features
Sadistic personality traits
Incestuous paraphilia
Other paraphilic tendencies used as deliberate control mechanisms
Pathological possessiveness
Cognitive dissonance involving objectification
Chronic hypervigilance and paranoia
God complex with messianic delusions of rulership
Extras:
How they like their coffee: Hot, with a generous amount of creamer and just enough sugar to cut the bitterness
How they like their tea: High-quality sencha green tea, steeped precisely and served without additives in a simple ceramic cup
Clothing style: Trustworthy businessman vibes; tailored dark suits, crisp shirts, subtle gold accessories that project quiet wealth and approachability
Favorite Food: None in particular; eats whatever is convenient and nutritionally efficient
Favorite Color: Vibrant green
Favorite Hero: None
STATS
Combat:
Physical Strength: B
Speed: A
Agility / Dexterity: A
Durability / Endurance: S+
Quirk Power / Output: S+
Quirk Control / Precision: S+
Quirk-Free Technique: B
Stealth: S
Pain Tolerance: S+
Intellect:
Academic: S+
Wits / Street Smarts: S+
Strategy / Pattern Recognition: S+
Adaptability / Creativity: A
Survival: S
Mundane Skills: A
Charisma:
Self Control / Discipline: A
Emotional Regulation: B
Leadership: S+
Manipulation / Deception: S+
Cooperativeness / Teamwork: D
Political Power: A
Status / Reputation: B
Social Connections / Networking: S+
Interaction Bias: S+
World Knowledge / Cultural Awareness: S+
SEXUALITY:
Romantic/Sexual Attachment: Deeply possessive and ownership-based; attachments are rare, intense, and never truly mutual, they are extensions of his need to control and collect.
Partner Traits: Someone who can be molded, broken, and remade into exactly what he desires while still retaining enough spirit to make the conquest satisfying.
Bedroom Style: Dom; Top Preference
Giving Kinks: Total ownership and possessive marking (carving his name or symbols into skin, leaving permanent quirk-altered scars, or using stolen quirks to brand a partner internally). Age and power-imbalance where he deliberately recreates the dynamic he had with Yoichi β grooming, βteaching,β or breaking someone younger or weaker until they accept they belong to him. Forced submission, quirk play, breeding/claiming fantasies where he forces a partner to carry
Receiving Kinks: Worship and submission that reinforces his god-like status, being called βMasterβ or βFatherβ in the right context. Partners who look or act like Yoichi (frail, defiant at first, then broken and submissive). Light pain play only when it reinforces his superiority (being bitten or marked in return only if the partner immediately submits harder afterward).
Psychological Edge: The moment a partner fully surrenders their autonomy and becomes an object that exists only for his pleasure β when they break, beg, and thank him for ruining them. The deeper the power imbalance, the more completely he owns them, the stronger the high
No-Fly Zone: Any scenario where he is not in absolute control: being topped, overpowered, or asked to submit in any way. Any form of bodily waste or filth play (it gives him the ick)
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Title is both a bad pun and the way I feel about how the series had progressed in regards to the way Shigarakiβs Decay quirk was handled.
Iβm in the rather small minority of fans that actually really disliked the now-canon theory of AFO being the one to give Shigaraki his decay quirk.
My issue boils down to three main dilemmas that are central to a good story. Character development, narrative development, and character agency.
For me, one of the best aspects about Shigaraki was his character development and the way he progressed throughout the series (up until the war arcs). I think itβs reasonable to say that the core of what MHA presented itself as, in the beginning, was the growth of our two main characters. The hero, Izuku, and the villain, Tomura.
Unlike Izuku, Tomura really got only a couple of chapters to shine until the MVA arc. But the way you could see his character development through the few chapters he did have made all of his appearances so good. Thatβs why I personally love the MVA arc.
Not only do we get into the core of who Tomura is as a person, but we get to see that he isnβt just some emotionless, manipulative villain who treats the league as pawns. He promises not to destroy the things Toga loves, he helps rescue Giran because Giran is important to Twice, and he even remembers Compressβs wish to have sushi. Why? Because he cares about them!
Season/volume one Shigaraki would not have done any of those things. But season five Shigaraki did. Thatβs whats so important to me. And itβs not like it came out of nowhere. Even during the summer camp arc, he expressed the sentiment that the league members are valuable players and how he hopes they succeed. Itβs a natural progression of his character, and a show of how close the league has become.
Another core part of MVA for Tomura was him remembering his past and overcoming it, especially in regards to his quirk. No longer was he the same scared kid who was afraid of his own power. Instead, he was now a leader in his own right, with the same destructive power that killed his family being used to actively help out and make a place for the people he now cared about, the league.
In many ways, Shigaraki made decay his own quirk, something that no one could take away from him.
And the implications of Shigaraki, the grandson of a hero, becoming a villain with his mutated destructive power, were great. It directly tied into one of the newer plot points introduced, which was the Quirk Singularity theory.
While weβre introduced to the concept through Eri, Ujiko and the kids Todoroki and Bakugou face during their hero licensing lessons really hammer down the complications of such a thing happening.
Quirks are getting stronger, stranger, and becoming uncontrollable. Parents canβt handle their dangerous kids anymore. How does society deal with that? What do you do in the face of such a phenomenon?
And in my opinion, if this had really been the case with to Tenko/Tomura, then I think it wouldβve been a lot more impactful than AFO just messing around. The reason being that something like this just canβt be stopped or controlled.
Which is also what the story of MHA had been building up to. Tomuraβs character had been established as the antithesis to hero society. Nobody helped him! People saw a child covered in blood and refused to offer further help because he looked scary and dangerous.
The grandson of the hero who mentored All Might becoming this insanely dangerous villain, all because civil society ignored him, and because the only person who bothered to reach out to him was also a villain, could have been such an incredible critique on society, and how only the βgood onesβ are saved.
Except thatβs not what happens. Which brings me to my points of narrative development and character agency. The main problems? AFO and Horikoshiβs writing itself.
Just why is AFO involved in so many characters? Seriously, why?
The second I saw Dabiβs chapter, when he wakes up from his coma, I had to take a break and just pause. Because at that point, it had been established that AFO only cared about OFA and his brother. There was literally no reason to go after Touya.
I found the whole βorphanages/seedbeds of hatred to be potential replacements for Shigarakiβ to be such a copout. If there really was a concern that something might happen to Tomura, then AFO would have acted concerned!
Instead AFO just sat there, without speaking until feeling the need to speak, when Shigaraki came back from the USJ with several gunshot wounds. Or when Stain straight up had Shigaraki stabbed and pinned to the ground. Even Kurogiri was more concerned than AFO.
Not only is Touyaβs story cheapened, it cheapens AFOβs character too. This post is mainly about Tomura, but something that would have made Touyaβs story a lot more impactful (for me at least) was if Endeavor had found his body at Sekoto Peak and then kept it a secret from the rest of the family.
Not for anything malicious or whatever, but because of the possibility that Touya would potentially die while in his coma. Him surviving could be explained away by quirk science/medical advancements. Touya, being kept away in a facility for his βown goodβ with Endeavor not visiting much like how he did not visit Rei, could have been such a great parallel to his mom.
Touya, who upon learning this, escapes from wherever he is kept and then returning home only to see that nothing has changed and then never looking back. Endeavor, being the only one to have known this and keeping it hidden because of not wanting to ruin his reputation/live with the guilt.
Not only would this have shown the darker side of heroics (which is what Endeavor as a character was meant to represent in the first place) but it also would have been incredibly damning if it had reached the public. That would have been such a better handling of Touyaβs story, to me at least, but nope. Touya is actually just a pawn in AFOβs master plan.
Even the orphanages AFO/Ujiko kept funded were so bizarre. Replacements for Tomura? Seriously?
They could have very easily been explained as future bodies for nomu or kids Ujiko experimented on for quirk science, but no, thatβs not what happened.
Like the Quirk Singularity theory, this plot point is left as a rather looming background decoration that just ends up being ignored. What happened to those kids? What about the Quirk Singularity? No discussion of those things ever again.
The agency and drive of every character is stripped away to present AFO as a mastermind. Which would be fine, if this was meant to be AFOβs story. But this isnβt meant to be AFOβs story. Itβs meant to be Shigarakiβs villain story.
Which is me segueing into another topic, which is how Horikoshi has this thing about trying to downplay his abusive male figures, especially when it comes to Endeavor and Shigarakiβs father, which honestly pisses me off.
Unironically writing that AFO convinced Kotaro to be more abusive, as if that somehow makes Shigarakiβs family life less worse, is insane to me. A grown adult should know better than to drag his kids around, scream at them, keep them locked outside while denying them food, and most of all, hitting them so hard they are knocked to the ground from the sheer force behind those hits. Those were choices that Kotaro actively chose to make.
And donβt forget the scene where five year old Tenko had to ask his mother why his father hated him. Thatβs actually all AFOβs fault.
Again, why I dislike AFO being the one to give Shigaraki his decay quirk. Any and all agency Shigaraki had in his life was near retconned in the end. The critiques his character was meant to represent, the forces that made him the way he is, the dangers of a society that focuses on heroic figures instead of help and changeβall gone, because Horikoshi just had to make AFO the ultimate villain.
Even the origin of Shigarakiβs decay quirk was just strange to me. A modified form of Overhaul? Really? AFO had to have a hand in Overhaulβs backstory too?
The problem here lies in the fact that the more Horikoshi tries to expand his worlding building, the smaller and more suffocating his world feels. Everything is connected. All the charcters know each other. No one exists in their own sense of self.
There are many ways to show a character struggling with a lack of agency. This is not one of the ways to do it. Especially not the character who was meant to parallel your MC.
I think what I dislike most about Shigaraki having been given decay is that the had another Quirk that was taken from him. It would have been so easy to have Shigaraki been originally Quirkless.
The parallel with Izuku is right there! Two quirkless boys who wanted to become heroes, with strong powers being given to them, and ultimately becoming heroes in their own way. This could have been such an easy and great similarity to showcase.
Instead, we have Tomura/Tenko being born with a quirk that lets him fly. And not even an established quirk like Air Walk! A quirk given to a hero who became disillusioned with the system, who under AFOβs orders tried to kill Izuku, and in the end had her heart/conscience reach out to by him. Instead, we have a new and unnamed quirk with a narrative importance of zero.
Wow, he had a quirk just like his hero grandma. While AFO took away Shigarakiβs agency in the worst way possible, so did the main storyline itself. What tipped me off to this was the animators portraying pre-decay massacre Tenko with gray eyes.
Likeβ¦why? It doesnβt even make sense. Why would Tenkoβs eye color have changed when he activated his decay quirk? I can understand his hair changing color due to shock/stress/Marie Antoinette syndrome. But his eyes?
It was obviously done to make Tenko look as similar to Nana Shimura as possible (who doesnβt even care about him in any way and also advocated for killing him, because that became a plot point). His hair, his eyes, even his original quirk.
For some reason, the narrative just canβt let Shigaraki be his own person. As if there is some divide between good and kind and heroic Tenko, and evil Tomura who took over Tenkoβs body.
It almost makes me uncomfortable in the sense that this seems to emphasize that yes, your lineage does matter into who you are as a person/who you could have become. Because this is obviously untrue. A character like Tomura just simply cannot be his own person, either by the narrative or by the actions of another.
If I had my way, then Decay would have been Shigarakiβs original quirk, with no interference from AFO whatsoever.
The family massacre would happened, and Tenko would have been walking on the streets, hoping to be saved. AFO would have taken notice (as nice civilian homes donβt just get destroyed), done his research due to the family name (as Shimura is an uncommon surname) and then tracked Tenko down upon realizing he was related to Nana Shimura.
Is AFO still evil and scummy? Yes. Does Shigaraki actually get some agency in what should be his own story? Also yes.
Itβs just seriously disappointing to me, that such obvious themes and parallels were being built up in this story, only to just end up being ignored. And itβs a shame, because itβs not like you can really do anything about it either way.
After writing that analysis in the reblog of your post, some things came to mind, things I had glimpses of before and that I hadnβt yet fully realized. And I was curious to ask you some questions I had asked myself as well.
Do you think Yoichi ever truly understood his brotherβs motivations for why Zen had decided to live as the Demon King?
Did Yoichi understand why his brother wanted OFA so badly?
Unless I am accidentally forgetting some important detail, I have the impression that Yoichi had an accurate idea of his brother only up to a certain point.
When he was little, he understood that what his brother did was wrong, but he thought that deep down his brother was good, hoping to be able to make him a kind person again, even though in reality Zen had never been kind to anyone else except Yoichi and wasnβt always kind even to him.
Growing up, between the killing of the luminous baby, the decision to become the Demon King, exploiting the situation of chaos, or quirks and people as he pleased, locking him in the vault, and finally giving him a quirk against his will (this can be seen as committing a violence on Yoichi, while from Zenβs point of view it was a gift he was giving him, not understanding why Yoichi didnβt want to accept it and why it was wrong), all these things had made Yoichi understand that his brother was evil and that he had been wrong about his kindness, or that he had now gone too far to be redeemed, showing no sign of being interested in doing so.
That is the moment when he realized that he would never be able to put his brother on the right path and that Zen would never use his great power to do good so he has to be stopped.
But realizing that Zen was evil or irredeemable does not mean that Yoichi had understood why Zen wanted so much to be evil and become the Demon King.
From Zenβs words, the most Yoichi knew was that his brother wanted a world that lived only for his sake.
But he is not told why Zen wanted this.
So I have the impression that Yoichi never fully understood his brother, he was very focused on the idea of justice and probably, from the disillusionment towards his brother, did not see the motivations behind all his brotherβs actions.
And this leads me to think that it was precisely for this reason that for Yoichi it was impossible to reach his brotherβs consciousness enough to make him reason and push him to change.
Yoichi knew his brother but he had never really truly seen through him.
Considering the social context in which they grew up and the AFO quirk, Zen did not have many chances of becoming a good person, but maybe if Yoichi had managed to reach him, he would have become better.
But Yoichi could not understand his brotherβs motivations and therefore could not reach him.
Do you think that if Yoichi had been able to understand why Zen wanted to be the Demon King and what this desire was born from, he might have been able to make Zen listen to him and save him?
I am not blaming Yoichi, it was not easy to understand Zen, since Zen was the first to be little aware of himself, and Yoichi tried for a long time to save him despite Zen being a difficult person.
But I think the problem was that he was missing the last piece to make sense of everything, and that was what made it practically impossible to even have a small chance of convincing Zen to become better.
In the same way, I think Yoichi did not understand why Zen wanted OFA so badly, he probably thought that Zen wanted to seize the power of OFA or wanted to eliminate the quirk born to oppose him, but I donβt think he ever realized that in reality Zen only wanted to have his brother back to be with him.
If Yoichi had understood this, would something have changed? Maybe a tiny spark of hope toward his brother would have reignited in him?
It is really sad that, as much as they knew each other well, neither of them ever really understood the deep motivations of the other. They spent many years together, but this inability to understand each other on an even deeper level divided them forever.
Going to break this apart to make it easier to follow along:
Do you think Yoichi ever truly understood his brotherβs motivations for why Zen had decided to live as the Demon King?
That's a really good question! There's nothing that indicates he does, but then again, we hardly get any of Yoichi's perspective regarding his brother. Even in the 193 flashback that's taken from Yoichi's memories majority of it is centered on AFO and we hardly ever get to see who Yoichi was like outside of him and his full thoughts on him.
As you said we see Yoichi is able to recognize AFO's actions as being wrong and had believed in his brother could become a better person. But we never see Yoichi grapple with why Zen is like this. Did Yoichi assume something was wrong with Zen from the moment he was born and thats why he acted as he did? Did he ever consider that growing up in the environment they did was what made Zen want to become a villain in the first place? We never see Yoichi bring up Zen's desperate need for attention which is the primary reason why he went down the path of villainy in the first place. He only talks about AFO needing to take everything for himself.
Because of this I am inclined to agree with you in that Yoichi never fully understood AFO's motivations which makes their story all the more tragic. This isn't to blame Yoichi for what Zen ultimately became, but it shows how despite them loving each other love wasn't enough for them to fully understand each other.
Do you think that if Yoichi had been able to understand why Zen wanted to be the Demon King and what this desire was born from, he might have been able to make Zen listen to him and save him?
No, I don't think so. Based off their interactions Zen never truly sees Yoichi as his equal. Yoichi is supposed to do what Zen wants and see things the way Zen does. Never does he take Yoichi's seriously when their beliefs oppose each other. If he listens to Yoichi when he opposes his beliefs, it's more in the mindset of wanting to change Yoichi to believe what he believes rather than genuinely wanting to hear Yoichi out.
I think if Yoichi did understand why Zen wanted to become the Demon King it wouldn't change anything. Maybe Zen would try to make himself seem more sympathetic in Yoichi's eyes so he could manipulate him into joining with him. Zen isn't interested in what Yoichi has to say about becoming a better person as Yoichi is supposed to his "thing" and Zens "things" are supposed to do whatever he wants. Not the other way around. It's why Zen insists on positing himself as the older brother even though they don't know who was born first as older brothers tend to have more power over their younger siblings. Especially ones that helped their younger siblings survive when they were at a more vulnerable age.
Did Yoichi understand why his brother wanted OFA so badly?
I think he did. It's not like OFA was a super powerful quirk during the early days. It only became like that after All Might took it and trained with it. We also have seen Zen prefer quirks that are strong or give him some kind of huge advantage (for ex the quirk he has that can tell when people hold malicious intents towards him when they speak to him). Then theres points where Zen refers to the quirk as his brother, though its a lot clearer when he does this in the original language compared to the English translation (I made a post on it before thats somewhere here). There is even a scene where vestige AFO is in front of Yoichi during the Paranormal Liberation arc after Deku and Tomura encounter each other and AFO says something along the lines of "this is all your fault you know" to Yoichi basically saying that he wouldn't have to put Tomura through hell if Yoichi hadn't insisted on running from him. Though its completely unfair for AFO to make that accusation as the one who is ultimately responsible for those actions are AFO himself. He just wants to guilt trip Yoichi to try to get him to stop this fighting. (btw if you look that up just know the manga English translation doesn't translate that correctly though I think the anime actually does)
Even if he somehow wasn't aware that it wasn't about the quirk then seeing how terribly depressed AFO became after OFA was shattered and how he said without Yoichi there's no colour in his world would show him that it was never about the quirk but about getting his brother back.
Thats my thoughts on this though, thank you for the ask!
BNHA OC stuff is in my pinned here (includes snippets and some incorrect quotes of AFO)
(Note: this is a list I'm updating as time goes. Mainly bc I have to find the related posts again [writing as of Nov 27, 2025])
Soulmate AU concept of AFO and the Glowing Baby
If Present Mic narrated 410 (The Paranomal Orphans)
All For One's Quirk Factor is in the palms, while Decay is in the fingers
(Adding to above post: symbolism something about how the palms [AFO Quirk] take and give, but the fingers [AFO himself, an extension yet still part of the whole AFO] ruin whatever it reaches for and grabs)
The AFO Quirk could've been one that gets passed down
Like Himiko Toga, AFO is driven by impulses relating to his Quirk's nature (Blood VS Quirks)
Foreshadowing of AFO's rage and him always smiling
All For One and Yoichi's remnants of a Factor in a leak
BNHA 423 leaks (AFO being lonely, Yoichi being AFO's light, AFO's realm being like hell to OFA, determination being what remains of the vestiges and Tomura, something something)
AFO calling All Might the "Symbol of Impotence" before punching him in the dick
AFO Rewinding is hot
Funny panels of AFO (follows after the above post)
HC idea of AFO using PKMN Cynthia's theme as his own theme
Me if DFO isn't canon
Idea: DFO isn't canon, but Midoriya awakens a similar Quirk anyway
Three reasons why Midoriya can have AFO and not know about it
Extension point of the post above, and a similarity between Yoichi and Midoriya
Comparing AFO and Midoriya in panels from different fights
Why it makes sense Midoriya was considered Quirkless, and how he makes a good OFA vessel (DFO)
More points to the DFO theory, Midoriya having AFO and being able to handle multiple Factors, Midoriya being what Yoichi thought the AFO Quirk could've been, something something
AFO sees Yoichi in Mineta
Copy-paste of above reblog
I don't think the anime did this episode right
AFO's real name reveal
Manga chronological order of AFO's chase of OFA
Yoichi couldn't look AFO in the eye until Kudo was behind him
Fic concept of AFO, Yoichi, and their mom in a red light district (not for smut purposes)
Yoichi can be considered the older twin based on whatever time period you think from (AFO could've claimed being older bc he wanted to)
Me in tags about Kudo, Yoichi, and AFO - Orpheus and Eurydice
Yo, listenβ¦and this is going to be long windedβ
It was a bit more understandable when people continued the narrative that AFO only cared about Yoichi as a possession; perpetuated that AFO had no love or care for him in anyway when all we had was the manga to go off of. Throw in the poorly translated AFO pages from the final fanbook and, yeah, I get it.
BUT thereβs very little excuse to continue that line of thinking after the anime. Seriously.
The anime decided to add multiple animations that were never in the manga concerning AFO and Yoichi.
(You might need to click the gifs in order for them to animate. I had to compress the shit out of them to get them to uploadβ¦)
The anime showing AFO wanting to hold Yoichi within his Quirk and saying, with a lot more emotion than expected, βYoichi, I have to have you back with meβ(this was originally only him thinking to himself over panels from his baby perspective before he was revealed to be a baby in the manga)
AFO reaching towards him while Yoichi turns away and disappears(very similar to when AFO blew him up) and then showing a hole close to where his heart is when he talks about feeling his twin shattering(again, this was originally just him talking in the manga),
Probably the most important, the scenes shown when Izuku calls him out for his humanityβAFO asking Yoichi to come with him, that he is important, and then him and Yoichi reading the comics all set to emotional music.
AFO running to Yoichiβs fragment
AFOβs VAβs voice cracking as he states how he feels about him.
Again, the fucking HERO of the story announces itβhe isnβt a monster beyond understanding, heβs no demon lord, heβs just a lonely man and that loneliness is immediately equated to Yoichi.
I often see people using Horikoshiβs strange choice of saying AFO never developed emotions due to the god-mode of his Quirk as the reasoning for him having no love for Yoichi, but thatβs honestly just a paranormal version of Alexithymia. People often conflate emotions and feelings as the same thing when they arenβt. Love is a feeling and those with Alexithymia show love differently than people who understand their emotions better. Not having emotions does not negate someone feeling love for another. These people show their love through actions and this is why the idea that AFO held no care/kindness for Yoichi is so strange becauseβ¦he straight up made sure Yoichi had clothes before he did; instead of leaving his twin to die so he could better survive, he dragged him around since infancy(cause magic giant baby), he kept him alive when all survival instincts should have caused him to, well, not. Even when Yoichi was obviously trying to disrupt his evil plans by screaming at those allowing his brother to take and give Quirks to them, when he probably tried to leave(resulting in the βvaultβ): AFO didnβt kill him and still demanded he join him in his dream. Even his intense control over everything his twin did was a symptom of a fear of being alone, of Yoichi leaving him. Is his version still super duper unhealthy and terrifying? Yes, but Iβll go over that shortly.
A person is not lonely because they miss their teddy bear from 100+ years ago. Loneliness is βa distressing emotional state characterized by a perceived or actual lack of connection with othersβ. It has to do with other people. AFO had a ton of loyal followers, Dr Garaki, Machia, Tomura, etc and so on(I feel that the anime showing how bored AFO looks sitting on his throne with all his followers was done on purpose to get this point across), yet his loneliness was tied to his twin. So much so that he spent well over a century doing literally anything to get him back; viewing Yoichiβs Quirk factor as his brother. But this loneliness was the one thing he wanted to hide from everyone. Outside of talking to himself, he presented it as wanting One for All, but we all know that wasnβt the caseβit was Yoichi. He suffers from extreme twin unit identity, his idea of self twisted to include Yoichi as his extension. Of COURSE he was obsessed and of course he was possessiveβthatβs so ingrained into him not just from the nature of his Quirk, but also a symptom of a childhood lacking anyone elseβ¦besides Yoichi. Why do you think the only time he says he doesnβt want someone to look at him is when that person finally breaks through the demon lord facade and sees him as the traumatized child that always kept the only thing that was with him since the womb by his side?
If the heroβs words canβt convince you then I donβt know what the hell will.
Oh, and this season had Horikoshi way more involved, so I assume that these new animations were checked off by him because I think AFOβs end was fairly confusing for people forβ¦some reason.
AFO is a BAD GUY. Thereβs no denying that. He very much used everyone around him to get what he wanted and did some pretty fucked up stuff to have Yoichi. His idea of love is twistedβaffected by his Quirk, his childhood, his selfishness, his fear, etc and so on. When a fan of AFO talks about his love for Yoichi, we are very much aware that it is an incredibly unhealthy possessive love. I think people try to apply a healthy love when arguing that AFO didnβt have any for Yoichi, which is silly.
Telling someone they are his most precious possession is the only way AFO can understand love. His fear of not having Yoichi with him, fueled by his possessiveness, is why he forced a Quirk on Yoichi(which I think was the final straw for his brother too), is why Yoichi so desperately wanted to leave(besides not wanting to have anything to do with his brotherβs evil ideals), and is also why Yoichi died. That intense possessiveness fueled by a fear he probably didnβt even entirely understand resulted in him killing the only person he ever cared about. Anyone that sees AFOβs face right after Yoichi is torn apart and still thinks he βoh yeah totally meant to do that and was fine with itβ has to be crazy.
Anyway, those are my thoughts. Disagree? I honestly donβt care at this point because itβs far too obvious now.
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You know how younger siblings tend to want to copy everything the older sibling does? From wanting to eat the same foods to doing the same things. I think AFO is like that despite being the older sibling to Yoichi.
Whatever Yoichi eats he wants to eat too. If Yoichi wants to try something new he wants to try it as well. It's kind of canon considering AFO saw Yoichi reading a comic book and he immediately sat down and read with him despite never showing interest in them before.
What makes it hilarious is that Yoichi was hoping AFO would want to copy his desire to be a hero too but that's the one thing AFO will not copy him on
I meant to write this in my previous reblog, but I didn't have the chance to type it before.
I think this is fairly canonical considering what we know about their past.
Zen was the one who had to take care of both of them, a child who had to think about his own survival and that of his younger, sickly brother.
He had to think about finding food, clothes, safe places to hide Yoichi, maybe even medicine in case Yoichi got sick.
This takes a lot of time, especially for a child.
Zen doesn't have time to look for hobbies and interests; he's too busy trying to keep himself and Yoichi alive.
Yoichi is the one with the best chance of finding hobbies.
In the anime, they slightly changed the scene where Zen finds Yoichi while he's reading the comic.
In the anime, he's already there with him, watching him, but in the manga, he's just returned, probably from a search for something they need.
In my opinion, this emphasizes the fact that between the two of them, Yoichi had enough time to do things similar (as much as possible) to a normal child, like find pastimes, while Zen didn't have enough time to do so.
Furthermore, two other things can be gleaned from that scene from the context:
Yoichi and Zen are a little older while reading the comic than in the scene where Zen kicks Yoichi; Zen probably realized that it's safer to keep Yoichi hidden rather than carry him around.
This reconfirms the fact that between the two of them, Yoichi is the one with more "free time" to search for pastimes.
So the only way for Zen to share something with Yoichi when they're together is to do the things Yoichi likes.
Besides the fact that Zen was probably living in survival mode to the point of not fully perceiving his own needs and desires.
In fact, when Yoichi already had clothes and shoes, Zen initially wore only a piece of cloth and was barefoot. The moment he probably begins to give more importance to his desires is precisely when he realizes he wants to take inspiration from the demon king.
Before that, we're shown Zen's actions tied to the context of survival, to the fact that he doesn't want to be contradicted by his brother, and to taking other people's quirks, an irresistible desire for him due to his own quirk.
So I think that probably before reading the comic with Yoichi, he relied more on Yoichi's tastes.
Usually, an older sibling feels a sort of pride in sharing interests with their younger siblings.
It's a beautiful thing when they find something to share, and if their sibling has very different tastes or personality from their own, it's even more special.
And often the older sibling wants to be an example for the younger sibling, a role model, which in Zen's case could be a role model on whom Yoichi must depend completely, so as not to need anyone else besides Zen.
So I think that when Yoichi showed interest in something, Zen wanted to participate and be part of it, to have something to share with Yoichi.
Also, Zen probably wanted to be a role model for Yoichi in his own twisted way.
He wanted Yoichi to admire what Zen did and support his actions.
But Zen interpreted things his own way, like the Captain Hero comic, and for this reason he couldn't understand why Yoichi refused to follow his ideal.
The other thing we can glean from that scene comes from when Zen asks his brother what he's doing without asking his permission.
We already know that he sees Yoichi as his property, but this suggests that he wants to be involved in knowing what his brother does and doesn't do, and he wants to be the one to approve whether what Yoichi does is okay.
And we know that Zen canonically needs attention.
So probably being interested in what Yoichi was doing, it was also a way for him to feel in control of him and had his attention.
So I think it's canonical that AFO always wanted to do the same things as Yoichi, probably because it was a way for him to feel important to his brother, to share something, and he probably thought it was a way to gain Yoichi's respect and admiration, even though Yoichi didn't actually share Zen's perspective on things, and sharing these interests was also a way for Zen to feel in control of Yoichi.
Yoichi, on the other hand, from what is said in the manga, hoped his brother was behaving so violently because, given the type of life they had and in that social context, it was the only way to survive, and that in reality he was a kind person, since he cared about him, and so, from his perspective, he hoped to inspire Zen to become a good person again, not realizing that he had actually just introduced him to the work that will give Zen the motivation to push him to become an even worse person.
On a surface level, All for One covered Shigaraki in the hands of his supposed dead family to torment him and prevent him from healing. He couldnβt allow Shigaraki to heal because he needed a vessel full of hatred.
But this is also an admission. All for One kept Yoichiβs dead hand. The implication is that one of the reasons All for One kept Yoichiβs hand was to prevent himself from healing. He couldn't forgive himself for inadvertently causing Yoichi's death and prevented himself from forgetting by chasing Yoichi's ghost for more than a century and collecting more and more reminders of his darkest moment. He blamed Kudou to protect his own ego, but at some subconscious level he must have understood his culpability as he punished himself by keeping Yoichi's hand with him.
in short, everything zen does is a fight against being forgotten. even though afo is portrayed as this in-the-shadows supervillain, his whole goal is to be memorable by making others fear him. he would do anything in order to not be forgotten by the world, and heβs found that, yeah, doing bad things makes you far less forgettable. he doesnβt want to go back to the way he was born: to a mother abandoned by society, in a dirty river surrounded by rats, his existence never recorded and his name never given.
i canβt emphasize enough the fact that yoichi and zen never actually existed outside of the physical sense of being. they did not have names, clothes, certificates, formal education, birthdays, friends, family members, holidays, community, money, prospects for a future, anything. that is damaging. they grew up in a time where their mere existence was vile, and they had zero adult supervision to give them a sense of right or wrong. if anything, itβs insane that yoichi developed a moral compass instead of turning out like his brother. afoβs decision to kill the luminescent baby (teenager, now, iirc) was only because he was jealous of their fortune and their following. like any child who never had a mother, he wants attention and he doesnβt actually care how he gets it. he cannot feel love in the way most people know it, he cannot feel fear in the way most people know it, so he canβt differentiate. itβs all the same!
even in the comics, for someone who cannot draw a line between attention out of love and attention out of fear, of course the demon lord seems the more appealing option, especially since the demon lord gets to actually exist. captain hero is much like the brothers, always hiding his location and identity, and afo hates that, so of course heβd hate captain hero and his whole story. why would anyone wanna be good if it just means you end up like they did (and mind you, the twins ended up like that by no fault of their own.) his scene where he mentions his new βdreamβ and heβs coming out of the moon, glowing like the sun, heβs commanding the whole planet to orbit around him. look at me, look at me, look at me.
not to push analysis but, the fact that his eyes cannot reflect anything furthers the idea of his own self-obsession. the eyes of others are a mirror to himself, and in his eyes, people cannot reflect. they donβt exist. in a twisted sense he imposes what was done to him onto others. itβs not a pretty, nor justifiable, kind of revenge, but thatβs whatβs happening. he has been given nothing: everything he owns, he has had to make or take, be it quirks, or clothes, or his name. i mean, he literally had to eat his motherβs corpse to survive, instead of the typical thing where the mother would give him food.
yoichi is literally the only thing that was ever GIVEN to him. heβs not the βfirstβ gift, he is the only one. to that end, even the name βall for oneβ isnβt βall (quirks) for one (zen)β its βall (that i have done) for one (chance at getting yoichi back).
his insane pursuance of his brother is fueled by this idea, that yoichi was the only thing he had that he didnβt steal. again, this doesnβt make him worth sympathy, but it certainly helps you understand why the man who has everything is obsessed with the ghost of someone he killed so long ago. iβm honestly not sure whether him killing yoichi was fully intentional: i donβt think all for one thinks things through a lot of the time, despite how he labels himself as an insane planner (and he isβ¦ just not all the time). when it comes to yoichi, he literally canβt think properly. idk. maybe someone has more analysis on why he blew his brother to pieces. i digress.
basically, zen spends nearly two centuries crawling from that muddied riverbank, absolutely desperate to make an indelible impact on the world. and yet at the end, thatβs how he goes out. a baby again, crawling about in the watery muck, and this time, with nothing to hold onto.
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