BNHA Observations

BNHA Observations, speculations and assorted info - Places

Todoroki Mansion (Part 1: Outside view) Todoroki Mansion (Part 2: Genkan) Todoroki Mansion (Part 3: Training Hall) Todoroki Mansion (Part 4: Dining Room) Todoroki Mansion (Part 5: Bedrooms) Todoroki Mansion (Part 6: TV room) Todoroki Mansion (Part 7: Kitchen) Todoroki Mansion (Part 8: Butsuma room)

Hospitals (Part 1: Fujitani Hospital)

U.A. High School (Part 1: Infirmary)

Aldera Middle School

BNHA Observations, speculations and assorted info - How they're called

How the Todorokis call each other (Part 1) How the Todorokis call each other (Part 2) How the Todorokis call each other (Part 3) How the Todorokis call each other (Part 4)

How would you say “The Todoroki family” in Japanese?

The Todorokis, how they are called and how they call others - Part 1 (Chap. 1-21 & Ep. 1-13)

BNHA Observations, speculations and assorted info - Scenes and character histories

Dabi’s way to fight in the manga from the start to chap 363

The first day Tōya burned himself

Pre-marriage Todoroki Enji (Part 1) Pre-marriage Todoroki Enji (Part 2)

The burned photo in the 4th ending

Height references for the Todoroki family

My two cents about Episode 146 (with spoilers about scenes which will appear in future episodes)

The Todoroki Family: Questions and Anwers

Quirk counseling: canon, the cultural references and what we can guess from this all

‘Remedial course’ arc Vs Uraraka’s quirk counseling program in chap 431

Chap 431 and Touya’s panel

The justice system in BNHA - part 1 (canon terminology, real life japanese institutions, chap 1 to 97) The justice system in BNHA - part 2 (chap. 98 to 193)

General Meta

Ramblings about the Shimura family Ramblings about the Takami family Ramblings about the Himura family Ramblings about the Shigaraki family Ramblings about the Todoroki family - Part 1: Todoroki Enji’s origin and teenager years Ramblings about the Todoroki family - Part 2: The back that’s too big, the mountain that can’t be climbed Ramblings about the Todoroki family - Part 3: The girl who’s like ice, Himura Rei and how she became Todoroki Rei

Touya and Shouto’s fight or why assuming the other is you and baring fangs wasn’t meant to work

Chap 374 and Touya’s resistance

Todoroki Enji’s atonement arc (Part 1) Todoroki Enji’s atonement arc (Part 2)

Why Tōya and Himiko were saved and yet weren’t

Todoroki Enji’s father’s death and why he feels he’s not a superhuman

My two cents about chap 426

Changing society in BNHA

Did Enji atone to Touya (and his family) and stepped up on his role as a father?

Was Rei a bad mother or not?

BNHA and Japanese law, aka why Enji and Hawks can't go to jail

BNHA ENDING or how a good plan might become something not so good when written down

When Heroes need protecting who will be there to protect them?

‘Code red’ order in Aldera middle school aka teachers supporing bullying in BNHA

Were really Tenko’s choices not his own?

Was the savior trio really a savior trio?

Who’s to blame when the stakes are missing?

Missed promises

Heroes and human rights

Why Rei called Shōto the family Hero?

Why the Sekoto Peak fire shouldn’t have happened or, how it should have happened DIFFERENTLY from what we were told

Technological progress in BNHA

My Hero Academia Ultra Archive (May 2, 2016)

Prototypes for Todoroki Shōto and Todoroki Enji Main events of the 1st semester

Timelines

The facts taking place during the year that ends with Rei's hospitalization and Tōya's assumed death

The facts taking place during BNHA first year

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Full “Boku No Hero Academia” Timeline (Last update: 2024-09-28)

Settei

Todoroki family related settei for season 3 Todoroki family related settei for season 5 Todoroki family related settei for season 6

BNHA Observation

Chap 1 [Ep 1-2]

Chap 2-4 [Ep 3-4]

Keeping up with the Todorokis or, just me observing the Todorokis in the various volumes

Volume 1 Volume 2 Volume 3 Volume 4

Keeping up with the Todorokis or, just me observing the Todorokis (Anime version)

1st series: 1 OP “THE DAY” by Porno Graffitti - Ep. 1 & 4 - Ep. 5 - Ep. 6 - Ep. 7 - Ep. 8 - Ep. 9 - Ep. 10 - Ep. 11 - Ep. 12 - Ep. 13

2nd series: 2 OP “Peace Sign” [ピースサイン PEACE SIGN] by Yonezu Kenshi - Ep. 14 - Ep. 15 - Ep. 16

Fanfics

if I were to make a guess I would say before Dabi's dance the League had not the slightest idea of what was going on in Touya's mind.

He didn't reveal anything about himself and keep on his own so it would have been difficult for them to guess.

In theory they might have figured out post Dabi's dance but post Dabi's dance:

AFO likely figured but doesn't give a damn. As long as it doesn't hinders his plans Touya can rost himself all he wants and the same goes for Skeptic who also might have figured but he so not care he might not have done it. For him the League are pawns, as long as Touya's useful with his life or with his death that's all he cares about... also Garaki knows but he doesn't care and he is jailed... but I don't think you wanted to know about those three so let's dig into those who were the League core members.

Tomura was possessed so there's nothing he could do.

Atsuhiro was arrested so there's nothing he could do.

Jin was dead so there's nothing he could do.

Shuuichi seems to have missed the memo, I think he sees Touya so strong, someone who is the opposite of him, someone who has everything both in terms of Quirk and in terms of character that he failed to see the big hole inside Touya's heart.

Himiko might have figured out.

Now, assuming she did we do not know if she talked about it with Touya (it's possible she didn't dare to because she hoped she was wrong) because you see, the League has a BIG, VERY IMPORTANT, rule, they all can do what they want and they do not get in the way of each other but respect each other's will.

So even if Himiko had spoken with Touya... I think she would have still respected his will, even if his will pained her. I think she would let him know that his death would pain her, so that he would know that there is someone who believes his life matter, while at the same time letting him free to do as he prefer, so that Touya would also know there is someone in the world who would support him in pursuing whateer goal he wanted to pursue (opposed to his family who never supported him).

I said the others are basically cut from the discussion due to them being dead, captive, possessed, in denial but, even if they weren't I think they too would act this way. Let Touya know they care but that they would respect his choice. Maybe the one who'll have more troubles accepting it is Shuuichi, more because since he seems to believe Touya has everything he would probably find hard to accept Touya doesn't feel the same, but this wouldn't change the endgame. Ultimately they all would make clear they don't want Touya to die but would respect his will.

And yes, this means they'll let Touya die and this is sad and terrible but the problem with the league is also they are too damaged to give each other a healing support. All they can do is accept each other, which is more than the world was willing to do, but they do not know how to heal each other.

I don't think they believe they can heal... maybe at this point they don't even think they should do it.

Well, those are my feelings on how the League would react.

I know there are tons of people who think differently and I don't own the truth so I might be wrong. In the end, since there is not a canon answer, it is up to each reader to decide what they would do.

Chap 301, which hints at how Rei didn't agree with the idea of having more babies after Fuyumi's birth was printed on February 15th, 2021, in short two years before the whole thing was criminalized.

For a bit of backstory here, historically, it was deeply embedded in Japanese social conventions that marriage implied permanent sexual consent.

In the 2000s though Japanese courts issued rulings on a case-by-case basis that rejected a perpetrator's absolute immunity simply because they were married as long as the method used to require sexual intercourses exceeded the limits of what is socially acceptable. Yes, the phrasing is vague because it was left up to the court's decision but basically, if Enji had assaulted a kicking and screaming Rei and she could prove it, there were chances he would be judged guilty.

By the way, this was true for every sexual intercourse, even the ones in which you weren't married, the victim had to strongly oppose to the sex for court to accept she might not have been consenting.

In 2017 there is an improvement as amendments were made that eliminated the requirement that the victim physically had to resist, though spousal rape is still not mentioned.

And so we get to 2023 when the crime is redefined from "forcible sexual intercourse" to "non-consensual sexual intercourse", it explicitly integrated the crime of penetrative sexual assault between spouses into the statute and outlined specific scenarios where it is difficult for a victim to form or express consent (such as being intoxicated, intimidated, or experiencing an abuse of power). As a result, spousal rape is now unambiguously recognized and punishable as non-consensual sexual intercourse under Article 177 of the updated Japanese Penal Code.

The punishment is, by the way, imprisonment with work for a definite term of not less than 5 years.

What all this means?

That very clearly Horikoshi hadn't the slightest intention to have Enji commit something that could be considered rape by the standards of 2021.

This means Enji didn't drag a kicking and screaming Rei to their Futon and took her while she begged him to stop.

Likely Rei saw as one of her duties as a wife to sleep with Enji, as, as said before historically, it was deeply embedded in Japanese social conventions that marriage implied permanent sexual consent and if this wasn't enough Enji married Rei for the specific purpose of making babies with the right Quirk.

I wouldn't be surprised if they never stopped sleeping together through their whole marriage. Likely all Rei wanted of him when he told her they should have a third son was for them to continue to use contraceptives so as not to have more babies and not to stop having sex.

Rei doesn't claim she doesn't want to sleep with him, just that having more babies would be cruel toward Touya and her shock comes from how she sees Enji's obsession.

By the way currently in Japan if a man ignores a woman's request for contraception and continues intercourse, he violates her rights, rendering him liable for financial compensation. The problem is the ruling establishing this dates July 19, 2024.

On the other side under Japan's Maternal Health Act, women can face up to a year of imprisonment if they undergo sterilization without their spouse's consent.

So yeah, there's still jail for Rei if she tries to make sure not to have more babies, while only recently it was decided if Enji forces her to have more babies he should pay her compensation.

Due to all this my belief is that even though Horikoshi established Rei didn't want to have more babies, he didn't mean to paint it as a crime the fact that Enji continued to have unprotected sex with her with the deliberate purpose to have more babies and he probably didn't expect laws would change so that they would eventually consider what Enji did a crime.

After all chap 301 and 302 are written to try to tame down more what Enji did by spreading the blame on the whole Todoroki family, so it is unlikely he wanted to depict Enji committing extra crimes.

It was bad enough Enji did beat Rei, which is the only crime that Japanese law would consider at the time (provided Rei was willing to report him and had enough evidence, which at the time needed to be overwhelming) and which he conveniently doesn't have Touya to mention in his broadcast.

I'm confident he didn't want Enji to have more troubles from that side.

(All this doesn't mean I think what Enji did to Rei was okay, I actually find it was horrible and many countries would consider it a crime and rape but it sadly at the time it wasn't a crime in Japan and sadly that's all that matter for the story)

are you referring to the fact that the personality of who's born on January 18th is defined as possessing a unique blend of "fire and ice"?

It sure is interesting but the whole thing is just a metaphor to say people born on that day are creative and ambitious, filled with an intense drive, creative mastery, and a fiery desire to make a name for themselves (the fiery part) while at the same time reserved and analytical as they can appear cool, calm, and incredibly guarded often useing logic and pragmatism as a defense mechanism to manage their emotions and focus on reality (the ice part).

And this mix is supposedly caused by Touya having been born in what is something with another interesting name, the "Cusp of Mystery", the transitional period between Capricorn and Aquarius (roughly January 16 to January 22) which seems, funny enough, a reference to how originally he was meant to be the most mysterious character in the story.

Now, all this might not be a coincidence as I've heard of mangaka who call an astrologer to decide which will be the zodiac signs of their characters (as well as the blood types as in Japan they're kind of like to zodiac signs) and this might have pushed that person to chose that date.

On the other side most of this is tied to how it all would be translated so in Japan it might not sound like it does for us and the chosing of this date could be casual.

>What's crazy is that the author could have easily had Touya still have an accident on the mountain, without any need for retcons. He just set everything on fire by accident while practicing with his power, and then goes down to smoke inhalation. You know, the thing he, Enji and Shoto aren't immune to. They resist fire, not carbon emissions. If the fire spread to him while he was unconscious, and they believed him to be dead, we keep the tragic accident. Notably, if he's knocked out, his quirk would turn off and he'd stop spreading fire.

Yes, this would be a possibility but it is also a possibility that, same as the canon one, cuts out any intervention into setting this from AFO. I mean, all the rambling AFO makes about keeping an eye on Enji and then all he did was get lucky because Touya conveniently burned himself but survived long enough for AFO to find out, drop by and swept him away? It feels pretty tame, more of a lucky shoot than AFO doing some solid work. If we compare it to all the work he did with Tenko well, it’s really minimal.

>The Todorokis can't control the fire once it leaves their body. If Endeavor sets something on fire, he can stop shooting fire, but he can't snuff out the existing flames. It'll burn until it's done burning.

I’m not really getting into a debate about what the Todorokis can do with fire and what they can because fire actually does all Horikoshi wants in this story. I mean Touya set to fire the forest and he and the League walk through it comfortably instead than running away like crazy.

When his clone faced Aizawa he tossed a huge flame that… somehow disappeared moments after.

When his other clone attacked the place where Vlad King was in again it tossed a huge flame inside the building that… only burned the door and set nothing else on fire.

When he starts burning the thugs somehow the fire do not spread to the buildings.

When he attacks Enji after the latter fought a Nomu he managed to trace a perfect circle around them, meaning his fire turned but when he disappeared his fire disappeared completely too, without spreading to anything else.

Hell, when he set Hawks to fire the latter only reported some burns instead than getting turned into dust. And the building in which they were fighting previously which he filled with fire? It didn’t became a torch.

So Horikoshi could have done whatever with Touya’s fire on Sekoto because he really has no fixed rules regarding it. Touya’s fire is pure Quirk magic, it works the way Horikoshi wants it to.

And yeah, he could have used it better since he could use it the way he wanted. But he didn’t. He just didn’t plan things thought and the scene became messy.

>It's also more easy to believe AFO could save him from this because by all rights there really shouldn't have been anything left of Touya after his canon accident. Even dousing himself in water should have boiled the water away instantly.

If you ask me I’m of the opinion Touya shouldn’t even have managed to reach the river. If his body was starting to melt to the point his jaw literally felt, the muscles on his legs should have also ended up completely melted to the point he couldn’t move. But again, fire does what Horikoshi wants it to do in this story.

Touya receiving less damage would have surely helped making more believable AFO could save him. I still do not get why Horikoshi decided that Touya, who has some resistance to fire, had to burn so completely while Hawks, who doesn’t have fire resistance only got some scars on his back and some damage to his wings. Horikoshi should have just accepted Hawks had to die.

>This also patches a major canon question of how Endeavor didn't go to jail over this. His son blew up a mountain in canon. Realistically, fire that hot would have turned the place into a glass filled crater. It would have been seen for MILES away. The heat would have altered weather patterns. The public would demand answers. And since the only person in Japan known to have a super powerful fire quirk is Endeavor and his bloodline, the suspicion instantly falls on him. One conversation with his wife or any of his children by an investigator would ruin Endeavor. This would require a police coverup of unimaginable levels and Endeavor would owe the HPSC EVERYTHING. Now, that's not said in the text at all. Endeavor doesn't imply any sort of debt to the government, nor does Hawks reference the sheer number of favors the government would have to call in to keep him out of prison.

I’m not sure why you think Enji should go to jail over this. The police likely knows Touya accidentally set Sekoto Peak on fire and died there. Enji wasn’t there when the mountain took fire. Chap 302 shows the fire was seen from a huge distance and Enji was out in the city and among people when it became visible. We see him screaming among them and moving toward the fire. The people might not have missed the Hero Endeavor was there when the fire took place, so he couldn’t set the mountain on fire.

It’s not know if the public know it was Touya who started the fire but Enji and his family aren’t so suspicious. As said before it is easy to prove Enji wasn’t there and no one knew Touya’s fire was that hot, as his flames has turned blue only recently and he told no one.

Plus not only fire Quirks are canonically common so Enji, Touya and Shouto aren’t the only ones that can be suspected, but fires can start for accident or be started on purpose by Villains and generic criminals or arsonists so there are potentially other candidates.

The police might have asked for legal compensation from Enji but they might have wanted to spare the Todorokis from having their son blamed for it by the public and hid it was Touya who set the mountain on fire, same as they kept hidden it was Midoriya, Shouto and Iida who defeated Stain but still has legally punished Enji, Gran Torino and Manual for how they failed to stop the kids from being involved.

So while I believe Enji had to pay for the damage, unless he had some sort of insurance for accidental damage caused by his children due to loss of control of their Quirk, I doubt any conversation they might have with Rei or the kids could ruin Enji or send him to jail, since in Japan you can leave children younger than Touya without supervision even now, but especially when that story was written and we have no info about other people apart from Touya dying in the fire.

Legally speaking the only thing Enji did to his family that at the time constituted a crime was beating Rei, something over which the Japanese police at the time wasn’t really prone to investigate (preferring to turn a blind eye or just give a quick scolding and urging the parties involved to make up) and that was really, really hard to prove and even when you could prove it judges and laws weren’t really interested in punishing you. Things have improved recently but they are still pretty bad.

Long story short, maybe if something were to come up it would be bad for his PR team as public opinion might not take his side (though if his PR team is good they might even persuade them of the contrary) but jail is definitely out of question.

That is why neither Enji nor Hawks face legal troubles after Touya’s video and why Horikoshi didn’t have Touya reveal in it that Enji beat Rei, which would have been the only thing that could constitute a crime (though again the police would have not investigate unless Rei was interested in pressing charges which she wasn’t, never mentioning she would have lacked what the Japanese law would considered proof good enough to set up a trial over it).

>So the author just expects you not to think about it. But in a timeline where it was just a tragic accident where a kid went and burned down a forest when his dad was at work, people think Touya was trying to go plus ultra and it went bad. Not that Endeavor drove his son to self detonate and take a mountain with him. Endeavor is, of course, still guilty of child neglect given he knew the boy would go up on that mountain and he intentionally ignored him to try to get him to give up. But one scenario by all rights should end with him behind bars and the other would end with him giving a press conference where he holds back tears on TV.

Hum… actually if people think Touya was deliberately using his fire Quirk, then they think Touya was committing a crime as Quirk use is forbidden if you aren’t a Hero. Enji would still not go to jail as the blame would fall on Touya even if he is a minor, but society would likely give him hell for being related to Touya.

On the other side the neglect that caused Touya to set himself on fire by accident wasn’t even remotely considered a crime in Japan at the time and still wasn’t at the end of BNHA and Horikoshi clearly didn’t try to introduce more modern laws in BNHA so Enji would still not be blamed.

I like to think Touya wouldn’t be blamed either as he wasn’t using his Quirk on purpose… though this is up to the police’s decision. In “Team-up missions” this was proved not to matter, at least legally. People just couldn’t use their Quirk, not even if their Quirk escaped their control. On the other side we know from “Vigilantes” that the police might still decide not to press charges so it is really up to them if to hold Touya accountable.

Long story short, while in my country we would hold Enji responsible of child abuse and neglect that caused his son to die which would be a rather serious crime here, in BNHA they can easily shrug off all he did as it didn’t constitute a crime and Enji was just a grieving father who made mistakes in good faith.

>amd honestly touya's relationship with all of his family members are very interesting imo. Not only touya and natsuo but Touya and FuyumI, Touya and Rei.

Yes, I also think so. I do love the Todorokis and their relations and I really wish the story had taken more time to explore them.

>The narrative mostly focuses on Touya and Enji, evem though i love their relationship it would be more interesting if Hori didnt reduce Dabi to just some "culmination of Endeavor's sins" (yikes).

Yeah, it was a poor sentence that objectified Touya and that sadly fits with how Villains are viewed through the story. Touya is offered little sympathy for what he went though (same as Shouto to be honest) and the story might even see claiming he became Dabi due to Endeavor’s sins as a way to ‘express sympathy’ as undoubtedly many of what Enji did pushed Touya toward that path.

>Dabi is his own character, endeavor should repent from his own crimes and dabi his own.

What I dislike about the story is that it wait till the end to give Touya reasons to regret what he did and even then they stood on weak premises. But whatever, I guess this is a discussion for another meta.

>Well wtvr, Sobabrothers relationship is absoulotely my favorite, even though they arguably deserved more screen time in the todoroki family plotline, the potential was insane. I was NOT expecting Dabi to apologize to Shoto internally let me tell you, this moment amd another subtle moment during dabi vs shoto fight when dabi views amd decalres himself as a part of the league /villains, twice, thrice "The limitations of superhuman society thats us (referring to him and the LOV) , also the moment with toga and him, made me realize I was reading dabi's character wrong. There are a lot of sub texts and naunce to him.

Yeah, the relationship between the Soba brothers has so much potential, I’m not sure why it wasn’t used to the fullest.

> But what I am leading into with all this? There are just some things I noticed with how hori writes touya. Thing is, Dabi is the villain who has the least amount inner monolouges among all the villains, its near zero unlike tomura's, toga's, twice's, hell even compress's and spinner's.

Well, part of this is due to how Horikoshi wanted him to stay mysterious. Giving him inner monologues reveal how he feels and break the mystery hence he gets very few.

>He is the only villain, hell not even villain, only CHARACTER, Whose backstory is mostly told by other people. The first half of his backstory was told by his parents, Rei and Enji (who I totally mind you, was NOT being biased 🤭), 2nd part of his backstory is told by Ujiko, yes UJIKO OF ALL POEPLE 😭😭😭. There were some snippets of touya himself in both halves but they were so subtle it didn't really gave us any insight to touya's feelings.

Actually I’ll say his story is narrated by a third person narrator, Horikoshi, with few comments in between from his family, Ujiko and, lastly, him. It’s a quite common technique but it is clear that we aren’t seeing the story from Enji and Rei’s perspective only or from Ujiko’s only.

In chap 301 the second flashback is between Fuyumi and Touya with none of his parents present, just Fuyumi, later we see a flashback of Touya training alone after Shouto had birth, we’ve the flashback of the siblings asking Touya to play, the end of it focusing very much on how Touya looks Shouto and Enji leaving, we’ve the flashback of Touya talking with Natsuo, again we’ve a flashback of Touya training alone and another of him alone at Sekoto Peak when he burns.

As you can see there is plenty of flashbacks without his parents and flashbacks in which not even his siblings are present.

The narration is objective and third person, it is not subjective from Rei and Enji’s point of view and this is even more true in the flashback in chap 350 where Garaki is not present through the entirety of it.

>Now idk what Hori's intention was. Pre reveal I can understand why he didn't let us into touya's mind. But post reavel? during his backstory? it doesnt make sense.

We do see into Touya’s mind in the end… it’s just Horikoshi wasn’t that interested into exploring it much. At the end of the day his belief was that Touya should have just put up with all that had happened to him so why digging more into his misery or into his human side? Why making Enji and society look even worse when he is trying to absolve them instead?

>I am a firm believer that like shoto, Touya should have narrated his own backstory. There alot of scenes implied by touya, we missed (like how touya always cried and crawled to natsuo questioning his existence, more scenes with touya's guilt of attacking infant shoto and his mom etcetc) bcuz his backstory was told from enji's and others prespective, and enji 100% did not see touya's anguish. It would also give us some insight on how touya feels about his mom, sister, natsuo and vice versa. Hence, more exploration of their relationship.

The difference between Touya and Shouto is that Shouto is a main character, while Touya is an antagonist. Plus by making the flashback about the whole of the Todoroki family instead than just about Touya, Horikoshi saves time.

We are shown Touya crying to Natsuo, though Horikoshi used that scene also to show that Natsuo wasn’t willing anymore to listen to Touya anymore, we also saw him feeling guilty attacking baby Shouto and heard him expressing regret for what he told to Rei and the others, hinting he loved them. It’s just it’s all very essential instead than deeply explored but again, in Horikoshi’s books Touya is a minor character compared to Shouto who, credits when is due, also received little exploration the first time his backstory was presented.

BNHA is a shounen and Horikoshi prefers to focus on battles than on the characters’ inner world. Sadly it’s a choice he can make.

>Its kind of funny how the fandom likes to give touya less sympathy than tenko and himiko bcuz he had "more agency", when the author himself doesn't give him that agency, even his ending was grotessuque unlike the other main villains imo

I think it really depends to who you ask in the fandom. With a fandom as large as the one of BNHA you can find people who hate Touya and believe Shouto should have just mercilessly murdered him and people who offer him a lot of sympathy. It really depends.

(Said so I disliked his ending, the whole tube thing was in extremely poor taste)

>Jokes aside, i wonder why touya wasnt allowed his narrative? Its like hori wamted him to be a complex, naunced character but also wamted the majority of the audience to see him in a certain way which he may not be if we were allowed in his mind

Undoubtedly Horikoshi has his own agenda to pursue, but a good writer can pursue it even allowing you to get into the mind of a character because HE IS THE ONE WHO CREATED SAID CHARACTER. Said so, I think Horikoshi let us get into Touya’s mind, but only that much that he deemed necessary for his plot to work and nothing more. After all at the end of the story the moral is that the Villains should have just put up with everything and not rebelled, so of course he couldn’t show us anything that clashed with this view.

It’s a common problem with all the characters, but this is the agenda Horikoshi is pushing forward so I guess it couldn’t be helped.

>I realized from a reread of the series that there some crucial points in Touya's life where if an acceptable intervention happened things could have been different, I am not saying he will grow a fully healthy well adjusted adult but there would at least be no Dabi.

Yes, there were many moments in which Touya’s life could have taken a different turn, you mentioned the three more glaring ones but it could have happened basically at any time in his life had his parents decided to try to help him differently instead than just trying o avoid the issue.

>Or what if touya never found out he was born from a quirk marriage (I dont think this one changes much but the existential crisis would be less imo),

Yeah, I also think this would have changed little, as while it doesn’t help, even if he hadn’t know he would have still had to deal with Enji clearly pushing for a child who could inherit his mantle as Hero and with society pushing forward the idea that child should be Touya and that, if he weren’t, he was flawled.

>These are just some what ifs and canon divergence I thought of for touya,scenarios that prevents the creation of Dabi. There could be more i am missing, I would be more than happy if you fill those up.

There are just too many for me to fill this up, but they all circle around one common point, Touya would find someone to understand, support and help him at any point in his life, be it by helping him find a safe way to become a Hero or by helping him to find another way to self-realize himself.

What Touya was truly lacking was feeling love and accepted. He insists he wanted to make his father proud  he gave birth to him, that he feel other perceive him as a failure, that others do not understand him.

I fear you’re giving me a too tall order asking me to provide you all the scenarios you’re missing and the details needed to go in them as this would be the material for plenty of fanfics and I’m already struggling to end my own.

AO3 will provide you with many wonderful fics dealing with this in details as each scenario requires different interventions.

>I think she gets unfairly criticized by fans for being "manipulative" and "selfish," even though those traits don't fit her personality.

Most of the problems the fandom has with the Todoroki family are also due to how the Todorokis are a traditional Japanese family representing traditional Japanese values and behaviors that might clash with the values and behaviors of other countries so what Fuyumi does might be perceived as wrong by people from different cultures.

>His use of "san" when addressing her may seem cold,

Regarding the whole ‘nē-san’ (姉さん “big sister”) thing, I didn’t mean to say Shouto called Fuyumi as such because he was being cold. Mine was a comparative analysis as this sort of thing change from family to family but I won’t enter into a discussion about this as while Shouto’s choice to be more formal than Natsuo (or Natsuo’s choice to be less formal than Shouto) tells us something, we do not have canon info on why this happens.

>it's likely that Shoto ended up under Fuyumi's care. He was too young (6) when Rei went missing; a child that age can't cook for himself, at the very least.

Also I apologize because maybe I wasn’t clear enough, but Fuyumi couldn’t have cooked for Shouto right after Rei left because canon says they used to have a cook. It was likely up to that person to cook the food for all the 4 remaining Todorokis. Fuyumi AND NATSUO started cooking not when Rei was hospitalized but when this person retired due to back ache. So at almost 6 Shouto didn’t have to cook for himself not because Fuyumi started doing it but because they had a servant doing so.

> Shoto is also known to be a poor cook, so he couldn't cook it himself, but he also didn't eat Natsu's cooking because it was too spicy.

Canon implies Shouto DID ATE Natsuo’s food when the latter was on cooking duty. Natsuo assumed Shouto didn’t because Enji would forbid him since the food was too spicy… but Enji said he had never noticed it was too spicy, so this means he never stopped Shouto from eating it.

>Fuyumi volunteered to help him mend his relationship with his mother and father

…hum, no, she didn’t volunteer to help him mend his relationship with Rei. She actually didn’t believe it was a good idea for Shouto to visit Rei and it was only when everything in that visit went well that she felt happy about it. Also Shouto was never interested in mending his relationship with Enji. It just happened MOSTLY THANKS TO MIDORIYA encouraging Shouto to look at things in a different way and Fuyumi wanted the two to get along so she also tried to encourage it.

>Most likely because she knew that if she tried, Enji could shield her from Shoto just like her mother had.

Hum… I’m not sure what you’re trying to tell here, but if she feared Enji were to react to her protecting Shouto the way he reacted to Rei protecting Shouto, this means she feared she would be beaten as this was what Enji did when Rei got in between them. Rei ended up in a mental hospital solely because she had a break down after being abused many times and hurt Shouto mistaking him for Enji, not because Enji wanted to keep her away from Shouto because she got in the way of Shouto’s training. Canon said she did nothing because she wanted to pretend nothing was happening. She was in denial about the sorry state of her family.

> Fuyumi also didn't leave home like Natsu, perhaps because she didn't want to leave Shoto alone and believed he still needed her support.

Natsuo left the house only when he started university, which took place in the year Shouto started U.A. High, so it is not like Natsuo has been leaving the house by a long time. Likely he is studying in Tokyo so it makes sense he moved there.

Fuyumi is not married and wants to rebuild her birth family so it makes sense she doesn’t leave the house but continues to take care of the house and of everyone living there.

> I'd also like to ask you, what exactly did Fuyumi say to Toya when he was six years old, when he confided his problem to her?

Regarding to Fuyumi and Touya their discussion didn’t take place when Touya was 6 but when Touya was 3 (we know because it is prior to Natsuo’s birth). If they also had a similar discussion when he was 6 well that’s unknown.

In their discussion Touya was basically saying that, contrary to what Enji and Rei were saying, he could train because even if he would get burned a bit he could take it.

Fuyumi’s reply was EXACTLY what Enji and Rei should have told Touya many times, she fundamentally agreed with her parents, protesting she too like them didn’t want him to get hurt.

> She doesn't discourage him or ridicule him

She actually discouraged him, as there is no way Touya could train without getting hurt.

Since she told him she didn’t want him getting hurt, this translated in her telling him she didn’t want him to train. Her intentions were good, she was worried for him, but the implication was she too didn’t believe he could become a Hero because he couldn’t train since he would get hurt doing so.

So yes, she is trying to gently tell him to stop, that she disagrees with his idea he can keep on training even if he gets hurt.

> In theory, she told Toya what his parents should have said.

His parents told him so. Enji specifically pointed out how Touya couldn’t train because he got burned. They didn’t want him to get burned, that’s why they didn’t want him to train AND FUYUMI AGREED WITH THEM.

> Toya was offended by her, but later doesn't blame her.

Touya took this as her not understanding him, how much important for him all this was, for her not having faith in him hence the remark she, same as Rei, is not good (at understanding him). Fuyumi was being concerned because she loves Touya… but she wasn’t being supportive (and in Japan younger siblings are supposed to support the older siblings) and Touya at the time desperately needed support, hence that’s why they argued.

Is Fuyumi at fault?

It was extremely difficult to find a right answer in such situation because Touya needed two contrasting things, he needed someone to support him and have faith in him but also needed someone to care for him and tell him he couldn’t get hurt and a middle way between these two things wasn’t something a child that young could have found.

Touya doesn’t hate her or Rei for this, but he is surely not pleased with them for this.

> For example, he blamed Natsu for refusing to listen to him as an adult.

I’m not sure why you say as an adult Touya blamed Natsuo for not listening him. He did not, he actually commented on how Natsuo was the one to whom he could go crying and, in Ending case, he didn’t send Ending against Natsuo, that was Ending’s idea. Touya only said, when informed by Shouto about how Ending almost killed Natsuo, that if Ending had indeed killed Natsuo that would have hurt Enji.

The only one Touya claims to wants to actively kill as an adult (but he actually never made a move in that direction unless when it was Shouto who put himself in his way) was Shouto.

> Toya, even though he thought she didn't understand, still spent time with her and didn't snap at her the way he did at his mother.

Touya doesn’t resent Rei either, he actually wanted to apologize to her, if he snapped at her it was only because she tried to stop him from training and, again, showed she didn’t understand him.

I’m sure Touya loved his family, but he also was furious with his family because he didn’t feel loved by them.

> even when his father rejected him as not strong enough

Enji NEVER rejected Touya because he wasn’t strong enough, he did the same as Fuyumi did, he didn’t want him to be hurt so he refused to train him. Then, since he believed his presence would still encourage his son to insist in wanting to pursue the Hero career, he avoided him, which only hurt Touya more because he interpreted this as being rejected.

Said all this, Touya loved Fuyumi and she loved him back. They do not understand each other and failed to properly support each other but they were kids in a broken family and Touya ended up breaking down as well so it makes sense he came to believe his whole family didn’t care about him and this lead him to become a Villain. I wish the story had given us the time to see them reconcile but I’m sure they’ll do it because I’m sure they both want to do it.