Okay so, this is INSANE! Why donāt they teach this in school??
Apparently, farmers dock their sheepās tails to prevent some issues, like lambs nipping each other accidentally while playing and cause pigs to go insane over the scent of blood, but overall sheep naturally have them long.
Hereās a pic:
My point isā¦could the sheep in Woolhaven do a similar thing? Could The Lamb have or used to have a long tail?? Itās just a fun concept that I was thinking about.
Edit: I noticed that one of the reposts mentioned flystrike and I decided to research the topic a bit better. So APPARENTLY docking is done a lot less to prevent nipping but rather to avoid maggot infestations and manure accumulating under the tail. Remember everyone, fact checking is important š !
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Hello, may I please get some advice on tail clipping? Essentially my were-creatures has a turned and born variant, and the born variant has traits like that of the animal the retrovirus is imitating including tail. So I'm thinking to keep their condition secret the adults in the family, typically the parents, will 'clip' the tail at the spine during infancy but I'm honestly confused on how to try to go about this narrative without damaging the spine too much. Any advice you can offer is much appreciated.
tail docking is a common animal husbandry practice for livestock like sheep, and an aesthetic practice for certain dog breeds, so there are resources out there explaining how to do it safely! here are a few I've found:
In our guide to docking sheep tails, you'll learn about the tools used to dock lamb tails, and methods to do this task safely and humanely.
Tail docking in dogs is the painful amputation of part of a dogās tail for cosmetic reasons or to reflect the expected qualities of a speci
the first two focus entirely on sheep, but the methods for canine tails are pretty much the same. the final link talks more about the negative effects. Even when done with "good" intentions like preventing certain common health problems or injuries, or hiding an animalistic feature for social safety, removing a tail is still a risky amputation. If done wrong, it could cause infection. Cutting it too short might cause trouble higher up the spine as well. So your were-folk could have back problems from the tail docking. they might have balance issues too, since a bipedal figure with a tail will walk differently than a bipedal figure without a tail.
It also won't grow back, obviously, and your were-folk are sapient people, so we're not just talking about a physical health concern here. There's a whole social/emotional/mental health thing to worry about too. Unlike livestock, these babies who get their tails docked will grow up to understand what was done to them and they'll probably have some complicated feelings about it.
And I do wonder if there might be some families that try to find other ways to hide their tails. If they're not huge, the tails could be tucked into their clothes. Like under skirts or something. shoved down a pant leg. They'd train their children to hold it very still and keep it between their legs, that sort of thing. Mass tail docking is a pretty serious choice to make, and not everyone would actually be willing to go through with it.
Hello! I was just wondering if you could help me with a question I had. When puppies get their tails docked is it done with any type of pain killer? I tried looking the answer up but all of the sites are ara. So far I've found the answer to be "done at 2-5 days with scissors and no type of local anesthetic"
In the veterinary and human medical communities it used to be thought that neonates didn't feel pain. So once upon a time it would have been considered totally fine to just cut the tails off with no anesthetic. This is no longer best practice. Some states have their own regulations but some of the "old school" vets (i.e. the Dr. Pols of the world) probably still do it without anesthetic. So is there a federal law that says "vets must use a local anesthetic to dock tails"? No. But you'll be hard pressed to find any vet up to date on current science and welfare that doesn't provide pain relief for this procedure. tbh I've never docked tails (I have amputated but that is very different) and I saw it done once as a pre-vet student probably about 10 years ago. That's the only time I've seen it.
Per the AVMA:
"Maryland and Pennsylvania are the only states that have provisions restricting the tail docking of dogs. Pennsylvania prohibits the docking of a dog's tail that is over 5 days old. The law does not prohibit a veterinarian from performing a tail docking procedure if the dog is at least 12 weeks old and the veterinarian is using anesthesia. Between 5 days and 12 weeks of age, tail docking may only be performed if it is deemed medically necessary by a licensed veterinarian. Maryland law provides that only veterinarians may perform the procedure using anesthesia and only when it is appropriate.
Alaska, Louisiana, and West Virginia allow tail docking to be performed as long as the procedure is done in a sanitary manner, minimizes the animalās pain and distress, and is done in a timely manner."
What are vets thoughts on docking draft horse tails? I was looking up info on it and found that Belgium did a whole study and basically said that the safety aspects of a docked tail could be emulated by proper line (reins) handling. Which makes me think whoever did the study had never driven horses.
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The AVMA and AAEP are opposed to tail docking in horses, stating āThe American Association of Equine Practitioners is opposed to the alteration of the tail of the horse for cosmetic or competitive purposes.ā In general, veterinarians should avoid performing surgical procedures that are cosmetic, not medically necessary, or not for the net benefit of the animal. There is no benefit to the horse in tail docking. Welfare concerns relate less to the pain that might be caused by the procedureĀ and more to the surgery being unnecessary and reducing the tail to the extent that it cannot be used to fend off flies and biting insects.Ā The intact tail is also useful to the horse for displays of mental and physiological states (for example, being in heat).
In the United States ten states prohibit docking of horsesā tails entirely or unless rendered necessary (i.e., medically, to benefit the animal, or in case of emergency). New Hampshire permits the procedure only with permission from the state veterinarian. Docking is banned in Austria, Belgium (as a result of the study you mentioned), Denmark, Finland, Germany, Ireland, Portugal, Norway, Sweden and the United Kingdom.
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May just be me but ear cropping seems 110% more Bloodclan the SC.
Oh Bloodclan crops for sure, itās just not an option, youāre cropped or killed. They also lack medicine dogs, so many many pups die from complications and infection. They also force mothers to dock their pupsā tails as short as possible to brand them as members of Bloodclan forever (it also helps them track down runaways, a cropped and docked dog is either a pet or Bloodclan so that narrows the search quite a bit), any pup not docked/cropped by their mother by 8 weeks is killed as punishment to the mother forĀ ārebelling.ā
āAussies with tails canāt be from reputable breedersā
āAll Aussies with tails are uglyā
āLeaving tails ruins the breedā
āI question a breeders ethics if they leave tailsā
āGoing against the breed standard and leaving tails is the worst crime ever omgā
Obviously that last one is a bit of an exaggeration but so many people in the breed feel this way. I think a tail has many benefits and I think itās silly to judge a dog based solely on an appendage. More and more US breeders are leaving tails and seeing benefits in performance Dogs. I know plenty of good US breeders who are reputable / ethical and choose to leave tails.
And the European dogs are beautiful. I donāt think tails āruin the Aussie silhouetteā at all.
(These dogs are all from a top breeder in Denmark, proven in multiple venues).
If a tail makes or breaks a breed for you , I think itās time to re-evaluate why you love the breed.