#snake lion

There is a two-part sorting system I like to use when I do this: I sort both their Motive [Primary] and their Method ['Secondary.'] More detail on the system I'm using. Lets get into it:

SECONDARY (METHOD)

Voldemort and Barty both feel like loud Bird secondaries (probably why they work so well together.) I don't know who came up with the Triwizard Cup plan, or if they came up with it together - either way, it's a patient plan, with a lot of steps, that takes a whole year to carry out. Voldemort seems to like that sort of thing. He likes planning, he likes contingency plans, he likes setting up dominos for a while before knocking them over.

Although... Barty is such a loud Snake primary (I'll get to it) - that it's possible he's modeling a Bird secondary to please Voldemort, and underneath he's something more Improvisational (Snake or Lion). He's very comfortable making things up on the fly - everything at the Cup was spur-of-the-moment, the dustbin thing was something he came up with on the spot in order to throw off Arthur Weasley, and at the end of Book 4 he still nearly manages to kill Harry after the plan goes sideways. I also think it's interesting how comfortable Barty is being Moody, and Moody is a loud Lion secondary - honest, direct, comfortable with trusting his own power and quick thinking to solve problems. Also, nothing that Barty says as Moody is a lie. He uses very specific phrasing, but it's all stuff he authentically believes. (ie - "If there's one thing I hate, it's a Death Eater who walked free.") I think that the Imperius curse would be an especially horrible punishment for someone whose power comes from their own authenticity. Yeah, I like that. Lion secondary Barty Junior.

(He can still model one hell of an Actor Bird though - both as Moody, during his court performance, and escaping Azkaban disguised as his mother. But I don't think he likes to. The happiest and most joyful we ever see him is when he's just laying out the truth.)

But Voldemort... when things things don't go according to plan he does have trouble pivoting quickly, and will definitely make a "No! This cannot be!" kind of speech. That's very Bird Secondary. He also loves collecting shinies, tools, knowledge, and skills. You're never quite sure what the extent of his power is - he might just start flying unsupported, or somehow know that you were talking about him behind his back. That must be very stressful for his Death Eaters. And while he exists at the center of a group, Voldemort's power doesn't come from the group. It comes from his knowledge, skills, and - when he was younger - the ability to play a part extremely well. Deserving, subservient, charming good boy "Tom Riddle" is definitely one of Voldemort's Actor Bird personas. (Birds often like to give their personas distinct names.) The angst of getting "stuck" in a persona is also a very Bird thing - and this definitely seems to be the case for Voldemort. There is a kind of resentment that he still has to *be* this person during the scene with Hepzibah Smith - and a relief during the conversation with Dumbledore when he doesn't have to be "Tom" anymore.

PRIMARY (MOTIVE)

Like I said up top, Barty is a LOUD Snake primary. His "Master" is everything - some combination of a soulmate, savior, and father. And it really is about Voldemort the person. I don't think Barty cares about the politics at all. If Voldemort wanted to switch it up and start killing people with glasses instead of muggleborns, I'm not sure Barty would notice. When he talks about his motivations, it's always about - serving Voldemort, finding Voldemort, seeing Voldemort, all the people who don't deserve Voldemort. Before he met Voldemort his Person was probably his mother. Snake, all the way down.

Voldemort... is harder, because I do think the glimpses we get of his interiority can be interpreted a couple different ways. I do think he is primarily motivated by fear - he's afraid of ever being powerless or weak again, the way I'm sure he was as a small orphan child. This is where he gets his fear of death (the most extreme form of weakness and powerlessness) and also where his interesting relationship with his body comes from. I think he conceptualizes the "muggle" half of himself as the "weak" half (see his slightly odd childhood hypothesis that "My mother can’t have been magic, or she wouldn’t have died.") I don't think it's a coincidence that all his experiments to make himself immortal also make him look like a being that could only be magical (and nothing like his muggle father.)

Being motivated by fear is generally a sign that your Primary is Burnt, so what is going on underneath? I don't think Voldemort is an Idealist - his hatred of muggles is authentic, but it's got nothing to do with his official position that muggleborns "steal magic" or whatever. He knows that's ridiculous, but it's a talking point that will go over well with the purebloods. If anything, his main projects (taking over the Ministry, killing Harry) are just very extreme coping mechanisms. He never has to feel powerless again if he RULES THE WORLD.

So okay. What does he seem to enjoy. Voldemort IS interested in family history, family legacy, and heirlooms... which could possibly be a sign of a Badger primary. Only, he keeps those things to himself. If he were a Badger I would expect the fact that he's the Heir of Slytherin and the last of the Gaunts to be his platform. Snake is much more likely - a lot of Burnt Snakes will also focus intensely on their body when it doesn't feel safe enough to let an Important Person into their life (Hedonist Snakes.) Voldemort's doing an unusual version of that sure, but it absolutely counts. He's also only interested in his Death Eaters as individuals, not as a community. They are spokes of a wheel with him in the middle, and he likes it that way.

Sometimes it almost feels like Voldemort is running tryouts - looking for an Important Person he can actually trust. Ideally, this is someone he can see as his equal... but who is also so insanely loyal and subservient they might as well be an extension of his own body. I call this the Logan Roy paradox, because these two traits are... contradictory. It's kind of a weird sentence, but I think that Logan Roy of Succession and Lord Voldemort have extremely similar Primaries (and extremely similar backstories...) They are Burnt and Exploded Snakes who want people, but are terrified to actually trust them. So instead, they come up with ways to own them.

Both Logan and Voldemort pick (and cycle through...) favorites. It's not totally clear what makes Voldemort go from Barty, to Lucius, to Bellatrix, to Snape, to Draco. Part of it has to do with their performance sure, but Bellatrix is definitely defensive during the Unbreakable Vow scene. She doesn't like that she's not the only one in the loop, and she doesn't like that Snape is insinuating that he is more useful to Voldemort. I get the impression that somehow - the shine's worn off a little, and Bellatrix is extremely motivated to get that emotional closeness she had with Voldemort back.

(In Succession, Logan cycles to a new person whenever his current favorite starts seeing him as too human, or too weak.)

I think this quote about Logan equally applies to Voldemort: "He never saw anything he loved that he didn't want to kick it just to see if it would still come back." Voldemort enjoys makes making his Death Eaters grovel for forgiveness at his feet, he likes torturing them, making Bellatrix cry and scramble for ground by talking about her sister, or her werewolf nephew-in-law. Voldemort talks Barty up in a way that seems designed to make the other Death Eaters resent him, and of course takes Lucius' wand, and sets up an elaborate suicide mission for Draco.

And then there's the way he brands his people with the Dark Mark, symbolically 'owning' them while also making it literally impossible for them to leave. This is actually a really nice way of using a fantasy metaphor to get across how unhealthy Snakes work.

There's also something weird going on with the horcruxes. If I'm right, and the core of Voldemort is he wants someone who who he can respect, but who will also never leave him... then grafting part of his soul onto them kind of solves that problem. They're carrying around part of his power, so he can respect them. But there's also no way they can get rid of their new psychic connection to him, other than dying. So he is able to trust (love) Nagini. And... I did not expect to be writing a Tomarry thing when I started this, but like. I see it. At his moment of triumph, Voldemort creates the one thing he (subconsciously) wants: an equal who he is able to control. It's honestly very Palpatine. When you think about it, Vader is also the solution of paradox: an apprentice powerful enough for Palpatine to respect, but who will also never betray him.

tl;dr

Barty Crouch Jr ~ Snake Primary / Lion secondary (Bird model that he built for Voldemort)

Have to do the sorting for the show I'm obsessed with for the past week - the legal drama Suits. Check out @sortinghatchats and @wisteria-lodge for explanation of the system in detail.

Suits is an amazing character dynamics study, fuled by relationships and personal conflicts, with the legal world drama cases as interesting and intelligent backround, testing the characters, pushing their limits and their loyalties to the brink while keeping a light-hearted banter tone.

Let's start with the most prominent influence character the legal world is apparently turning around, the famous lawyer legend Harvey Specter. Harvey represents the best of the double snake sorting - he is charming, confident, self-serving, enjoying luxury and wealth his job gets him. He is obsessed with winning, with walking away from every situation as the top dog and getting the deserved credit for it. And he is sneaky. You don't meet a better schemer than Harvey, who will get you on a space between lines, who will convince you he will lie even though he would not. Who can switch from being the serious trustworthy lawyer for the business meeting and the funny playful tease at work, to the predatory confident blood smelling shark at court. Changes faces like his suits and enjoys it. He is in it for the game of it all, and he is the greatest at it.

LMAOOOO This is what I deserve. We're going to go in ascending order so starting with number five, and of course we all know that all sortings are sexy blah blah blah let's get into it! (Sidenote I had a draft where I also did the unsexiest sortings but since everyone else is posting their sexiest sortings I jumped in)

5. Snake Bird - SNAKE PRIMARIES ARE SO SEXY GUYS I CAN”T EVEN. Fyi Snake Badgers are not on here because they’re more romantic and the Badger sec cancels out all the sexy lmao. But this is the villain sorting, what ISN’T sexy about that. You DON’T want a sexy independent slightly crazed maniac who is in some sorta lust for you with this intricate plan and all the details sorted out? Shut up yes you do.

4. Bird Snakes - Despite the fact that they are a rare breed, they are in fact sexy because of how well put together they are and their flexibility. They have contingencies, they are riding the waves. They’re confident in themselves (usually). They play the field and they look good while doing. They don’t actually have to look good but it is their vibes I’m talking about.

3. Snake Lions - Look I GET that they are overused and EASY and SIMPLE, but fuck if they aren't sexy. They’re the Rebel sorting, and have you ever seen a Snake Lion that isn’t sexy? Adrien Agreste doesn’t count. Anyway Snake Lions are just sexy. They go boom boom pow and are in it for themselves and the people they like. Independence and also unflinching loyalty is very sexy.

2.Lion Snakes - While they are a very annoying often times, they’re also still incredibly sexy. Firm in their beliefs and able to do whatever for them. They’re sexy in that aggravating “why-are-you-so-hot-you-piss-me-off-so-much-I-wanna-kiss-you-so-bad,” way. Unless you’re Elizabeth Swann then you’re just hot.

1. Double Snake - Was there...any other sorting it was gonna be? Double Snakes are simply straight up SEXY. They have the sexiest primary and the sexiest secondary, which just equals pure sexiness. They’re actors, they’re charmers, they’re sly, they’re creative, they’re in love, they’re independent, they’re sassy, they’re fun, they’re perfect.

I only really care about Catherine and Peter in this show (and maybe Marial, maaaybe) so I won't spare braincells trying to sort the others.

Catherine ia NOT a Loyalist. She's not a Snake; as she herself says: she loves Peter, but she loves Russia more. Peter's response "You are not even Russian." is 100% true and what's more I don't think Catherine cares about Russia itself (I find it hard to imagine she would know to explain the tradition and history of her adoptive country if you ever asked her), but about the idea of Russia. So, she's not a Badger either.

This leaveas us with Bird and Lion and I am honestly torn on this one. I am leaning more towards Lion because she has that Internal primary energy. Not to mention, in the finale, she refuses to kill Peter in front of Voltaire because Voltaire is a paragon of virtue and she feels dirty committing murder in front of him. But she had no problem doing it when he wasn't there. I think to a Bird this would be a pretty WTF reasoning.

Bottom line: Catherine is probably a Lion who changed her cause from being a great wife for Peter to being a great Empress for Russia.

Her secondary is harder. She is not a Snake, but starts to develop a model to survive the Russian court. I don't think she's a Badger either, fluid secondaries simply don't fit her. I am in between Lion amd Bird and I am leaning towards the latter. Catherine likes plans and freaks out when they don't really work as she wants. She likes collecting books, ideas and even people once she makes up her mind to overthrow Peter. A good example of what I think is her Burd secondary is the smallpox episode where she turns to books to find a solution and finds out about vaccines.

Peter...oh dear Lord, Peter! He is an awful, awful person who is not easy to sort. My best bet would be he is a Snake Lion. A veeeery immature Snake primary that seems to have his dead mom, his aunt and maybe Georgina and Grigor in his Inner Circle. But his most important person is clearly himself. At least till he falls for Catherine at the end of season 1. Just look at their conflict in the finale: as a Snake he's heartbroken Catherine would choose something as ridiculously abstract as Russia when she already loves him and he loves her and their child.

I am going with Lion secondary because nothing else fits. The idea of Peter as a Snake or a Badger is laughable. He is not a Bird either and it can't be more clear than when you compare him with Catherine. Peter is stubborn, direct, wants to do things NOW. This wouldn't be a bad quality if he wasn't a spoiled brat that have been handed unlimited power. As it is, the Lion secondary is making him even more of a tyrant.

TLDR: Empress Catherine II of Russia - Lion Bird with Snake secondary model

I'm pretty sure I'm a double bird, but I'd like to know your thoughts.

For my primary, the thing that matters the most to me in the entire world is my S/O, he is my top priority

I mean, I certainly hope you mean "top priority [along with myself.]

and I view everyone else as "mattering less" in a hierarchial sort of way. For instance, my best friend is just below him, and everyone else is below her. It's not that I don't like my friends and acquaintances, they just mean less to me *morally*

Interested in where you're getting Bird primary from. Because that sounds pretty Snakey.

(I would never tell anyone they "don't matter" to me though, it's incredibly mean and I care a lot about what people think of me)

Just random people? Not even *your* people. Okay, now we're starting to sound like an External primary. (Bird or Badger.)

HOWEVER, I've gotten the impression that snake primaries have a built moral system outside of "me and my people" that they can drop at a moment's notice when it comes to their people, but I feel like I'm the opposite; I really WANT to be the kind of person who's loyal no matter what, but if my S/O says things I disagree with I have to be true to myself and my beliefs and argue with him about it.

Interesting. You like Snake primaries, maybe even idealize Snake primaries. Because what you're describing is just like... a relationship. A Snake primary might agree to disagree, because in the end it doesn't matter /that much/ to them. But they'd still talk about it.

I can be pretty sensitive with him, but mostly when it's something I believe very strongly for personal reasons, though it can happen over smaller things too. I am willing to listen to his side and understand where he's coming from though, and use subjective language when arguing. And I think about it a lot afterwards, asking myself whether I was right to react the way I did or whether I should have been more mature, whether I was objectively wrong, etc.

Eeeesh. "[too] sensitive" "should have been more mature" "subjective not objective" etc.

You're allowed to feel things. You don't need to explain why you feel. You are also allowed to have a large emotional reaction over something small. (That's why I ask for small, normal, personal anecdotes, examples like that can be extremely telling.) And it just rubs me the wrong way when someone is praised for being mature, or told to be *more* mature. Maturity is a function of how long you have been on planet Earth, and how many decisions you have needed to make while there. That's it. There's no way to bootstrap that, doesn't matter how smart you are. The only way to become more mature is to live more.

I actually spend a lot of time thinking about my actions in general like this. If I come to the conclusion I'm wrong, I'll feel extremely guilty for "not being loyal enough", though I can feel this way even if I'm right, too (I am very hard on myself for no reason). I suffer from OCD, so my morals are made a lot more extreme in my mind, and only apply to me for the most part. So, if I was coming off as unhealthy, that's probably why lol

I can see that.

But, this only happens with my S/O because I trust him so much; I'm not like this around others, tending to stay quiet due to anxiety and keeping my annoyance inside.

That's burned secondary language. "I want to express myself, but I can't. So your two options are speak out (and then obsess over what you said exactly, and end up feeling guilty for speaking out even if you decide you were right.) Or say nothing, and let the annoyance build up. That's one hell of a choice, friend.

I don't think I've always been this invested in loyalty; at some point after hurting the person who was Most Important at the time, loyalty being incredibly important became ingrained in me. But when I was younger, I was a lot more passionate about injustice and got very swept up in the "sjw" stuff, tending to believe whatever I read or was told. My friends would often get annoyed with how much I'd start yelling about something, like incorrect word usage or if someone was insensitive about someone's identity.

I'm wondering if you might have a Lion secondary. You would definitely prefer to argue then keep the peace, and it sounds like when you were younger you were a lot more fiery.

"Tending to believe whatever I read or was told" is young behavior kind of in general, although it hits External primaries hardest. Although this shift from a more Lion systemto something more Snake flavored is definitely something a Bird would do.

And before that, I believed a lot of what I grew up hearing from my mother, about how my bio family only cared about "blood" while she didn't (I'm adopted and grew up not being related to anyone in my family, and therefore have strong opinions on people saying stuff like "real parents" etc). I always told myself that I loved my mother even though it was clear to me that she didn't love me back, and the only way I got out of that situation was finally telling myself that I didn't have to love her and that I had to prioritize myself over everyone else if I was going to get out. I ended up being incredibly stubborn and standing my ground and repeating to myself over and over not to listen to her. Making my own judgements and forming my own opinions came with time and maturity, and I'm hoping my temper continues to dampen and I become better at patience in the future.

This is a story about a Lion secondary protecting you. This, when it really comes down to it, are what Lion secondaries are *for.* That voice that says "This far and no further. I will be stubborn, I will let anything else fall away. It doesn't matter what comes at me, I am just going to repeat what I'm doing until I get OUT." The world needs people like that.

But now you're in a less dire situation. Your Lion secondary is still protecting you, but you need some more nuanced problem-solving techniques as well.

I am closer to the rest of my family now that they have finally cut her out of their lives, because she hurt all of them. Despite her having clear favorites among us kids and having a hierarchy, and me hating that, I do the same thing. I try not to make it as obvious, though.

You're absolutely allowed to have favorite people in your life. You're even allowed to let if effect how you treat them, because everyone involved has a comparable level of power. If they have a problem, they can leave or take it up with you. A child can't do that, which is why treating specifically a child with obvious favoritism is so awful.

(I will note that I've picked up some of my S/O's morals, but only because I care about what he'd think if I did things like kill a bug instead of putting it outside or if I wasted food, etc)

Could be a Bird with a Snakey system. Could also just be a Snake.

I would say that, between abandoning my morals and abandoning my people(/person), that the latter makes me feel way more guilty.

You definitely seem to have a kind of complicated relationship with Loyalists, and Snake primaries in general. On one hand, your mother seems to be kind of a toxic Snake, and you want to make sure that you never do hierarchies in the way that *she* did. On the other hand, you kind of idolize Snakes and wish that you were a Snake, or a better Snake. You also say some things that sound kind of Bird primary, sure. But you say a LOT of things that sound Snake.

Here's my take on you. I think you're a Snake primary who spent some time kind of burned. You might have even done a controlled Burn on purpose to get away from your mother - that is absolutely something that Snakes do, and honestly it's often pretty healthy as long as they don't *stay* burned. I think that when you didn't trust your Snake you built something that felt a little more *constructed,* and you are still at a place where you think you should be a better Snake than you are (which is something I see with slightly burnt primaries.) I also think that in the places where you look really Lion is probably just your secondary getting loud.

I am pretty selfish with people when I first meet them; I often only want to engage in my own interests, and only start caring about the other person's interests and becoming more selfless once we grow closer and I see them as important to me.

Don't beat yourself up, this is just people stuff.

However, I admire people who are able to just care about everyone and be so selfless and loving. I genuinely have no idea how they do that; I have no interest in loving absolutely everyone, I just think it's very impressive that they can. I feel like they are better people than me.

It is honestly very classic for Snake primaries to think that Badgers are Just Better.

As for my secondary, I used to be more impulsive and bad at planning ahead due to a combination of immaturity and ADHD.

I feel like I'm not very good at originality and creating new things, but I AM good at taking something and modifying or improving upon it. I am often thinking of ways I can make something that's meh or already pretty good and make it even better, and will end up fiddling with it to accomplish this. This includes image editing, messing with Tumblr themes, adding things to recipes, etc. I've also learned a lot of things and picked up new skills by doing this!

This is a very Improvisational way of talking about problem solving. Lions and Snakes will often talk about wanting something that they can *respond* to, and can easily get stuck when they have to begin in a void.

I dislike lying, especially when it comes to myself, but I do tend to have "different" sides I show depending on the person I'm interacting with. I am fully myself with my S/O, and mostly myself with my best friend, and everyone else gets a watered down version of me.

This is the Lion secondary "dimmer switch" or "volume dial" metaphor. There's you, and there's slightly toned-down versions of you.

It depends on what I think they're expecting of me or how I want them to perceive me, and I may exaggerate certain parts of myself a little, but I don't l pretend to be something I'm not. And I'm making an effort to be more Me and embrace myself more after putting myself into a box for a long time.

Good. I think that's going to be really good for you.

But, after moving out and getting older, I've had to hone my ability to plan ahead and prepare for things to avoid potential problems, or just make things easier for future me. I am often thinking of plans which usually involve more abstract, unusual ways of going about things based on what is available in terms of skills, resources, people I can ask for help, etc. I've also heard that "collecting shiny people" is something bird secondaries do, and that's something I'm super known for and partially plays into the "hierarchy" stuff I mentioned earlier. I love learning about people and analyzing them; personality typologies are actually a huge interest of mine! and I love being able to know and read people.

It sounds like after moving out you built yourself a lovely Bird secondary model that you really enjoy. Good for you.

I think that's all I have to say. Thanks and hope you're having a good day!

+ bonus mini-sortings of Wednesday Addams and Indiana Jones

Hi! I really enjoy reading about the SHC system, and decided to write a structured SortMe submission (at last). My Secondary is what I’m struggling a lot with. As a kid, I was very bossy towards friends, and could not stand not being the leader of my group and leading the games we play. I loved making up games based on this video game/book series/tv show to play with them, and there was A LOT of improvisation (following my whims).

Well, little you sounds like a pretty classic Lion secondary.

My group broke apart later due to me being too domineering. Later, I moved to a country where I couldn’t speak the language properly and became quite withdrawn, shifting into an introvert completely (still am). Regarding friends, I went along with whatever they wanted to do, almost all of the time. I had one really good friend though, but I maltreated her kindness by reverting to my domineering self around her.

Huh. Well, it sounds like your secondary burned. "Domineering" is an extremely negative way to talk abuot a Lion secondary, and well... I can't help but think there was a little bit more to this friend-group break up, especially since you were the "bossy" leader the whole time. You're talking, basically, about your Lion secondary not "working" anymore (not being able to speak the language would contribute to this) and that's a burned secondary. So you get quiet, you get passive, because doing more than that feels risky.

In high school, I was the furthest thing from leadership, and shifted from group to group, never liking any groups or the idea of groups. Those who aren’t close to me would say that I’m shy (I would disagree - I’m just not good at communicating with people I don’t know well, or multiple people at a time). A close few (mentor included) would say that I’m opinionated.

There have definitely been some Loyalist (snake) primary vibes so far. Your really good friend, your mentor, wanting to join groups but that not really working as a long term thing for you.

I really enjoy talking about what I think and what I believe with my mentor, as well as abstract ideas and philosophy, but rarely with my friends because I don’t enjoy arguing about it with them. I stopped caring about social media and maintaining social connections, unlike most of my peers, because the connections felt too temporary, and yielded little rewards for the time I spent. I do enjoy spending time with friends, but there are friendship issues popping up all the time (fickleness and selfishness- I’m seeing the selfishness in people clearer now).

I could see this a couple of ways. Like this could be a slightly hedonistic Burnt Snake. You want those Snake connections (and not the more Badger-style ones, which don't feel like enough to you.) But, they seem hard to come by, so you've been editing. You've got someone who is on your wavelength, and you're getting more philosophical and internal.

Of course, this could also mean that you're a Bird in the process of building a (less social) system. And who could be more important in that process like a philosophically minded mentor?

I now spend my spare time (non-studying) reading fiction, playing video games (immersing in a different world), delving into systems such as MBTI, SHC to learn more about people, and reading game guides (stat optimisation, etc. REALLY ENJOYABLE).

So we're having fun with systems, which generally means some Bird somewhere.

Now I am literally the opposite of the description of Inspirational secondaries - especially Lions. Regarding problem solving, I find it hard to think of situations (searched google for ‘examples of problem solving’). I feel like the problems that I’m involved in are almost always solved by others, and I can’t offer anything valuable.

This is extremely burnt secondary talk - I *can't* solve problems. I promise, if you play video games, you solve problems.

Once I broke a certain rule (for about the third time) and was going to have something taken away the next morning. So during the night I thought about what I knew about that person (doing the deed) and tried putting myself in their shoes, and what I could say and what responses it could yield. The preparation made me feel better but I barely used any of it the next day — I reacted to what the person said and ?adapted? and lied (with a heart rate of 200 or so) and was successful in preventing them.

So... you did the Lion thing, and it worked for you. It sounds like when your secondary burnt you did build a Bird secondary model (stat optimization guides - very bird primary.) The Bird is a toy, a support system, and it can make you feel less anxious.

I think when I’m really desperate and have no time to prepare for a serious problem (to me), I resort to lying. However, I don’t lie often and would even be actively honest in everyday life to improve my “reputation”

It is a Lion secondary thing to not like lying, and do it as little as possible so as to build up a reputation for not lying (or to want to do that, anyway)

and prevent anyone from pointing out my lies and judging me.

Hmmm. Who's judging you? Who's thinking you're a bad person? Where is this coming from?

Whenever I’m stressed or under pressure, I become really unresponsive and appear emotionless. In conflicts with others, my mind often goes blank and I just let them speak,

This is just a human thing. Fight/flight/freeze/fawn - you freeze.

because I can’t say anything clever enough that won’t be shut down.

Again with some external force coming down on you. This might be part of the reason your secondary burned.

I really, really envy and admire Snakes who shift based on the situation and are able to create masks (I’m just like a rock).

It sounds like you're a Lion secondary who doesn't really like the idea of being a Lion secondary.

I also envy Lion Secondaries but feel annoyed by them - like how can they be so honest and straightforward?

It is really, REALLY normal to be burned and find un-Burned annoying, naive, impractical.

If I experience conflict with my parents, I almost never argue (because I can’t beat their ”logic” - which is: “you’re my child, you can’t argue with our authority”).

Got it. You've got some authoritarian parents who shut you down. Sorry to hear that. No wonder you're struggling with some of this stuff.

I recently watched Netflix’s Wednesday, and I really admire the protagonist’s quick thinking and speedy comebacks. I felt that she didn’t need to be so straightforward and blunt, but it was… so cool. She had no problem TALKING BACK TO PEOPLE. Ideal me would have razor sharp wits backed by an abundance of knowledge (rapidfire Bird or Snake) (but alas).

Wednesday Addams is a very loud Lion secondary. I suspect she's a unBurning Snake Lion - which is a sorting you might want to consider for yourself. She is extremely protective of the handful of people she considers Hers - her character introduction where she drops the piranhas into the pool because the swim team was bullying Pugsley could not be more Snake Lion. But she has trouble finding people who *get* her (to the degree where she's started to think that those people don't exist) - and that's burnt Snake. We also see her Lion secondary coming through in her problems with her mother - Morticia adores her life, and she's sending Wednesday down the same path she took, which Wednesday resents. She values the Lion secondary authenticity too much. She wants to be *herself* and make her *own* calls, even if that means she fails.

I was reading about neutral states, and I wouldn’t say I have different personas for different people and situations. Generally, the less close I am to a person the more polite and quiet I’ll be.

the "dimmer switch" Lion secondary metaphor

However, I notice that if I’m spending a decent amount of time with someone one on one (almost never happens in a group), then I’ll revert back to my neutral state (unconsciously). There are some boundaries, though (e.g I can never sing or dance in front of any of my friends, but I do it all the time at home).

Hmm. So when you trust someone... the lion comes out? That's good.

When studying, I want to make sure I cover all of the points (objectives) that will be tested. I never study/revise for something that isn’t going to be tested (too extra), and I rarely study without outside pressure (upcoming DEADLINES) for something that I’m not interested in, even if it would benefit me in the long term. I like having a frame to work with, and going on from there by myself. I quite often create plans (timetable, study timeline, exercise…) but almost never fulfil them due to laziness and lack of motivation. The more detailed it is, the more I hate it.

You have a Bird model... which you think you're supposed to have... and which you kind of hate using for this stuff. And you're definitely using adrenaline to hack your brain into doing non-preferred tasks

The only time I remember completing a planned goal was the Nanowrimo 50k novel in a month challenge - where I stopped halfway but picked it back up and got to 50k words before the month ended. I like having that “you can write whatever you want but as long as you reach a word count, and even if you miss a couple of days it’s fine”.

This is good information. You like your frameworks to be loose, you like room to pivot - write one bit today, another bit tomorrow, you're not feeling it the third day, and that's fine.

I have never made a really difficult decision, but generally speaking I would weigh the pros and cons of each choice and kind of imagine what would happen if I picked that. HOWEVER, from experience life never goes the way I try to predict, and doing that is kind of useless :’)

Spoken like an improvisational secondary. And honestly, in a philosophical way I agree with you... but my Badger still wants to make those plans anyway.

I would also ask the people around me for their thoughts on the matter to build more perspectives and cover my blind spots.

Very smart, just for problem solving in general. Probably means you're not a Lion primary though... who kinda like to make important decisions without the static of other perspectives.

Regarding fantasies (my favourite part of this submission), I like to imagine myself as a mage who studies in a grand academy filled with intricacies and travels to investigate ancient ruins and magical places with close friends/intellectual equals. I would work on discovering the arcane mysteries of the universe, weave poetry and art about bygones (heavily LOTR inspired). The close friend is pretty prominent in my fantasies (snake vibes?) but also is a search for adventure and meaning. Real-life based fantasies are generally snake secondaries and other-world based fantasies generally bird.

Your fantasy is to be Indiana Jones (but also a wizard, and an artist.) That's a pretty Lion secondary fantasy. And I know you didn't specifically name-check Indy, but I suspect he's a Snake Lion as well. I will admit that he does look like a Bird primary a lot, but that's because his People are generally safe/offscreen. When he DOES have to choose between them and the arcane secrets of the universe - he chooses his people. UNLIKE his villains. Lot of Bird primary villains in that franchise.

I love playing RPG games A LOT (Zelda, Dragon Age, Genshin). I’m more into the exploring aspect than saving the world, but I become attached to individual characters along the journey.

... like Indy :D

I’m not a big fan of warrior types of characters in fiction, such as She-ra (Badger Lion) uniting a rebellion to fight evil — I instead relate to Entrapta (Double Bird) who doesn’t really care about the conventional good vs evil and would go along with joining the Horde if that benefitted her cause. But I don’t have her impressive collection of knowledge on what she’s passionate about (tech). To a lesser degree, I also relate with Catra (Double Snake?), who cares about individuals much more than groups and doesn’t understand She-Ra/Adora’s goal of fighting for the good and for the people. But I definitely don’t have her flexibility and smarts in problematic situations.

I would definitely check out the SHC Podcast She-Ra sorting... especially because they make a very good case that Catra is only modeling a Snake secondary, and underneath she's a burned Lion secondary.

I feel powerful in a situation when I’m thoroughly prepared…?

Do you really though? You talk about being super prepared as being annoying and stressful "kind of useless" and something you "barely use."

But that almost never happens and is quite temporary because don’t like thoroughly preparing for a situation, and anything unexpected can throw me off completely. Like this chess game I played (I’m horrible at chess - quick thinking and meticulous planning - enjoy it though and wish I was good), where I planned this sequence of moves to make to win, but the opponent kept making unexpected moves and I would become fixated on my sequence and, well, lose.

It sounds like you think that you should have Bird secondary... and so have a Bird secondary model that doesn't seem to help you much.

I’ve taken the SHC quiz several times and have gotten both Lion and Bird Primary (Lion more often, but I’m quite convinced of being a Bird).

Bird is still very possible - you haven't talked about your primary much - but I would definitely consider Snake. From what I've read here... I've been getting Snake.

I’ve tested as every Secondary (burnt?) because I found the questions hard to answer.

Yeah, definitely Burnt. But there's a Lion secondary under there, and you're in the process of unBurning, especially around certain people.

Thank you so much for taking the time to read my overly long submission (filled with brackets). It took me a couple of days to think and write and cut out sections, and I kind of have a vague idea of my sorting and how you’ll sort me — looking forward to reading your analysis though. Sorry about the unnecessary details in advance. Have a nice day (or evening)!

Based on the @sortinghatchats​​ system leaning on @wisteria-lodge​​ explanations and terms.

This is just an excellent little series. You have enemies to friends as an actual premise and purpose of the story, not just a plot point or side dish, found family, main guy and girl being actual foils for each other with budding romance and the conflicts between human and spirit worlds. While doing that it's actually quite character focused with slice of life elements.

Hyoma Kunato is a very interesting badger primary defined mainly by his total dehumanisation of said spirits, called tsukumogami. After losing his older brother and sister to a brutal attack of supposedly peaceful spiritual beings in need of guidance with the occasional troublemaker or two, he sees them as threats and monsters and attacks them on sight, actual situation be damned. That’s what prompts his grandfather to send him away to a a group of six tsukumogami that live with permission as humans and act like a family to an adopted human girl.