Question for people who use screen readers or text to speech/audio
When a post on here has lots of emojis, special fonts/text or lots of keysmashes, what is a way to tag those posts so that you guys don't have to sit there listening to nonsense for a minute straight?
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When people put image IDs under the cut (Keep Reading) of a post on Tumblr, does a screenreader still detect it? Or does it skip it?
Hi! Thank you for the question.
So, in general, most of the time, a screen reader can find the “read more“ button/link and successfully activate it. And, the majority of the time, we can then subsequently read the rest of the post after activating the read more.
However, I want to put heavy emphasis when I say “most of the time.“ Tumblr is notoriously known for being barely usable with a screen reader at best and actively hostile to screen reader users at worst, and there are inconsistencies galore as well as frequent accessibility breaking updates. There are times when I have been able to access a read more one day, and then log on the very next day and find that I am totally unable to find it at all. There are other days where one post allows me to activate it just fine, but another gives me so much trouble that I give up And log off for the day completely in frustration.
For these reasons, as well as several others, it is almost always universally recommended to not put an image description under a read more. The image description should always be in the standard body of the post, and/or in the alt text.
The other big reason why it’s not great to put an image description under a read more is that if you delete your blog, that read more can no longer be activated, so that image description is gone forever even if others can still re-blog other versions of the post.
And, lastly, putting an image description under a read more simply just creates extra steps for disabled Tumblr users that non-disabled users don’t have to do to get access to the post and its content. We are often already doing so many extra steps just to use the website as a whole because of how inaccessible so much of it is, and putting more barriers in the way means that far fewer Blind people are likely to ever see that image description. Or if we do see that post and notice that you have put a description under a read more, we might already be out of spoons for the day and clicking that read more is just another tiring frustration. The description should be readily available And as easy to access as the original image is for fully sighted users if you want to create a truly equitable experience.
One of my biggest pet peeves in the TMA RP community and the TMA fandom in general is when people make non screenreader-friendly blogs/posts.
Like. You're in the "this story was formatted to work specifically with audio and nothing else" fandom. Which will no doubt draw an audience of blind people, who cannot see, and thus use a screenreader.
Of ALL the communities to not be screenreader friendly!!
I'm not even blind or anything- I mean I'm dyslexic but it's not that bad- it just really grinds my gears because I at the very least go out of my way to filter everything by whether or not it's screenreader friendly in tags.
(On my main there was a period where I stopped doing that because I was really depressed and just hit the reblog button without adding tags cause I couldn't muster up the motivation but I eventually fixed that.)
Sometimes I'll add plain text and image IDs in reblogs. I always post in plain text unless someone else ruins that first.
Just like. Why. It's so easy. At the very least, tag your shit.
Guide to what is and isn't screenreader friendly. (Safe link, no tracker)
Tips for all of my alternative & Chronically ill/ disabled friends!
A big thing that's helped me feel more comfortable accommodating my disability is finding accessibility tools that reflect my personality / interests.
I should put a disclaimer that making disability "aesthetic" should not be the most important thing about your health! I do this where I can to help me accept my disability.
Here are some alt accessibility tools I've found / made & utilized for myself!
1. If you're prone to nausea:
Anti-nausea meds work, but I also find that peppermints work well, too! I always have mints on me. At home, I've stored them in this coffin container!
I do keep a few of these mints in my bag, as well as ginger hard candies (they taste very strong, but are VERY efficient). I got the peppermints at Dollar tree, and they've genuinely been a life saver. (Peppermint is a natural stomach relaxer /info)
Alternatively, I've found this adorable ouija board tiny mints container that has mints in it!
2. If you struggle with temperature-regulation:
The mints are even fun-shaped! I also saw other horror-movie themed mint containers in-store as well. Since they're tiny, they dont work well for severe nausea, but they are still helpful!
(*The ones pictured are not the altoids brand. Altoids are way stronger than these ones and work way better.)
For me, my hands and feet are always FREEZING, but my core will be super warm. What has helped me a lot has been gloves and fuzzy socks!
3. Do you have noise-canceling headphones? Decorate them!
I have a lot of spooky gloves like this, but I prefer the fingerless ones because I can still use my phone and be warm at the same time! I've also heard my friends who are wheelchair users say gloves can help protect your hands if you use a manual wheelchair. Another added bonus is that certain gloves can help limit mobility for those of you who struggle with hypermobility in your hands.
I decorated my N/C headphones in shark stickers because sharks are my special interest!
These are Soundcore Life Q30's. I have gotten compliments on the stickers many times! You could put halloween stickers on yours or decorate your headphones in other ways! I've seen people crochet horns onto the headband portion of their headphones.
4. I would recommend any chronically ill person carry a cup around to stay hydrated:
ESPECIALLY If you need electrolytes. You can either have a drink like propel or powerade in your cup (or any drink of your choice, and you could put electrolyte packets in there).
This specific cup isn't the best at keeping my drink cold, but it holds a decent amount of liquid! And it's spooky. If you're someone who struggles to drink enough water, I've found that getting a fun cup helps me a lot!
5. Make communication bracelets!
If I'm having a difficult time voicing my needs, or I'm in a verbal shutdown, these bracelets can come in handy for me.
I'll either wear them on my wrist when needed or present them to my friends so they can read the bracelet and understand what I need. I keep them on a keychain that way I dont lose them and can transport them easily. An example of some of the phrases I've turned into bracelets is; "No spoons," "spoon debt," "verbal shutdown," and "flashbacks," (for when I'm having a PTSD episode.) You could make a bracelet with the medical condition you have as a DIY medical-alert bracelet. I added tiny spoon charms to some of my bracelets because I thought it was funny.
5. Mobility aids!
Decorate your mobility aids with things like stickers, kandi, lights, etc! Pinterest, instagram, and tiktok have a lot of good ideas. You can easily customize your mobility aids to look spooky or look however you want them to!
6. Bags!
I know that for me, I NEED to carry a bag around whenever I go out because it has important medical items that I need, but it also keeps all my important items like keys, id, ect, in one spot so that I dont forget / lose them. SOME spooky bags are expensive, but you could find a plain black bag at a thrift store or walmart and accessorize it with patches, keychains, and pins! I've seen people paint designs onto their bags before as well.
• You dont have to spend a lot of money on your accessibility tools!
Find ways to DIY them, or get them secondhand! You could even try working with household items you already have! A lot of these items, or items very similar to it, can be found at the dollar tree - even the materials needed to make the beaded bracelets! (Outside of the spoon charms)
Thats all!
If I think of more, you'll see me again! Be spooky, and be kind to yourself!
Why do you restate capital letters in a plaintext description? Are they not plaintext? Is it read differently by screen readers?
I have yet to fix several of my posts that I did that for, thanks for the reminder!
Here I actually asked about that and got some really great responses! Definitely recommend everyone read this great feedback.
💬 17 🔁 0 ❤️ 10 · I have a Screen Reader Question! · [Plaintext: I have a Screen Reader Question! /End P.T.]
I added Screen Reader for Goo
I was doing that because I saw other people doing that, but I'm super glad I tested a screen reader myself to check!
TLDR if you don't click on the linked post (which you really should tho!!)
Screen readers a majority of the time read formatted text typed in the website just fine, like bold, underlined, italics, and all caps. Colored text however doesn't do well! Especially like making every letter in a word a different color.
I was very encouraged reading these responses because with my own self accommodations I tend to stick to pretty plain text in my posts, and I never use colors lol
The only big change for me has been really cutting down on my use of emojis as I tend to kind of use them as tone tags.
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By the way, I've recognized that by not putting alt text for image descriptions, I'm making my blog less accessible for those with screen readers. So, I will do my best to include those in future posts, and I'm going to previous ones to add alt text to images. I don't usually do this at all (which I recognize is a problem, I will be trying to change this) so if you see any mistakes in formatting (or just mistyping/misrepresenting the image) I apologize and would love for you to call me out/provide feedback.
hey, question for all my disabled followers/moots! do you have any advice for how to make a fun aesthetic intro post while also being screen reader friendly? I like having a lot of colours and emojis and symbols and all that, but I don’t want the screen readers to explode trying to read it /exagg. any help much appreciated!!! :)
❔️ Hello since it's disability pride month it's time for a problem we need to see acknowledged more.
Reminder that fonts [ the copy paste ones/the ones on the post itself ], break screen readers regardless on if you put plain text above or below it. If anywhere on the post has a font the majority of screen readers will no matter what, crash, freeze, make horrible noises etc. The person using it will have to click off the post and/or blog. Some screen readers skip fonts but that doesn't mean all do. Many break and we are unable to do anything about it. Please, stop using them. For those who don't care enough to remove that, at minimum put "font warning" or something on the link / page so those who's screen readers break know to not click it. And while on that point. Put your easy to read link on a different page, or beside the link to the rentry/prn.cc/etc. If it's on the same as the font it could still break before we even have a chance to see there's an easy to read option.
Pretty fonts are not pretty when they exclude visually disabled people, pretty fonts are not pretty when they exclude people with dyslexia and other reading issues. Pretty fonts are not pretty if your response to people upset about them is "turn your screen reader off", "Just don't click it then" or "But I like how they look and it's my blog". That last one especially is ableist regardless on if you claim to care about disabled people. You are actively claiming you care about disability but ignore those with screen readers simply because it doesn't affect you. I'm tired of seeing fonts on every rentry and blog. I can't read boundaries or information without our screen reader yelling at us. How do you expect us to know anything about your blog if I can't get to the information?
One last thing. I'm disappointed when seeing someone also with a screen reader say "well it doesn't break mine so it can't break yours". Acknowledge you are lucky fonts don't break yours. Acknowledge it's still ableist to imply all screen readers work the same or that it isn't a big deal if some can't read what you can. It's upsetting being excluded from so many blogs. So many accounts in general because tumblr isn't the only website with fonts all over it. We don't deserve to have so many things not available just because we're not able to read them like others. - The Astropaws collective since we all agree on the issues.
Edit: This applies to fonts being in your tags, bios, names, literally anything people can publicly see. They break screen readers too! :)