#louanna

Does Heinkel have the Pride Witch Factor?

Okay. Yes. I’m aware that does sound REALLY weird & like a crack theory rather then something serious. Bear with me lmao. Basically, this image here was the final nail in the proverbial coffin for me to finally talk about it.

This is a confirmation from Ex 6 changes that Stride does indeed possess the Pride Factor. A Theresia pregnant with Heinkel is casually chilling in the area when Stride keels over, and Theresia due to having a DP after this incident means she didn’t get the Factor… and the Factor conveniently disappears after this point and isn’t seen again in the Story.

Sounds like just some coincidence on the surface, but there’s something that Heinkel has which ties him to an Authority quite well.

Yuuuuuup. The Astreas are tied to a fucking piece of Astronomy. An asteroid belt of all thingies, which is literally what some of the Witches Names are tied to.

Obviously, since Wilhelm is outta the area when Stride dies he’s not the Astrea that yoinks it and Reinhard isn’t born. Soooooo- why does Tappei purposefully name the Astreas after something associated with Authority Users?

The name of 5 Astrea is based on the Greek Goddess Astrea which means the following:

A goddess interested in Justice, innocence and purity and is disheartened by humanities corruption. I’m sure we don’t know a character who has been confirmed to have a Witch Factor of Pride that is like that.

Oh, lookie, lookie! We do infact have said character literally herself being named after Astronomy aswell!

So. We have Heinkel being positioned at the perfect place & time to get the Pride Factor, Heinkel’s last name is connected to Astronomy, and that portion of Astronomy is directly connected to the Witch of Pride.

But. This gets even more damning.

Reinhard can detect miasma… and his POV is a spoiler. What are the odds Reinhard literally is detecting his Father emitting a shit ton of miasma 24/7?

Keep in mind, we have in LN 4 Reinhard give no visible reaction to Al when seeing him despite Al emitting a shit ton of Miasma as confirmed by Rem in LN 6.

We also have Reinhard despite being sus of Subaru during the initial alley encounter choose to let him go anyways even as Subaru said stuff about Emilia that very well could imply he was a Cultist.

Reinhard clearly has a big soft spot for Heinkel. Could this not translate into him being more tolerant of people who have Miasma then the typical reaction of those who can detect Miasma?

Reinhard also knows Heinkel is NOT a Cultist, so Reinhard logically would see all Miasma people as potentially not being Cultists since he himself knows that his own Father is in a situation like that.

I’d like to delve into further evidence that Heinkel does indeed have connections to an Authority aswell because there’s somehow MORE. This one is from Battle Ballad.

For extra context, Carol here was attacked by Stride’s Rings which are an Authority of Pride. We are outright having a Healer say however that nothing is wrong with Carol’s body. Does that not match Louanna eerily well?

I’d now like to bring this up from LN 9.

This here is when we have the cast speculating on how Gluttonies Authority works, and Tappei literally outright introduces the Sleeping Beauty disease as if to connect the fact in the viewers mind they might be related.

I’m supposed to believe Carol being described in a way you could take as the Sleeping Beauty condition after getting whacked by Stride’s Pride Factor is a coincidence when the Sleeping Beauty disease has been associated with an effect of an Authority previously?

Now, I’ve made this connection. There’s something interesting in Battle Ballad regarding the implication that Heinkel’s Authority of Pride may have inflicted the Sleeping Beauty disease unto Louanna.

We outright have Heinkel being referred to as a “lionheart” here. That is the name of an ability Regulus has from his Authority which impacts his wives by sharing his heart with them.

Authorities clearly can take into account the idea of marriage given Regulus has showcased this with Emilia, so why can’t it take into account Heinkel’s marriage to Louanna and act based on that?

Since I’ve established Heinkel’s Authority of Pride could’ve inflicted the disease onto Louanna, what exactly did it do to her to cause that state then? I’m frankly not sure, but it’s likely something to do with her Od.

I suspect whatever Heinkel has, it’s some sort of protective ability applicable to himself that inadvertently affected Louanna since he may have been using her open heart & mind to unwittingly load whatever cost the Authority required onto her.

Now, regarding Heinkel’s personality as an individual and how that matches up with the Sin. Here’s a snippet from LN 9’s Shadow Garden scene.

Is that highlighted portion not a perfect encapsulation of the fact that Heinkel literally scorns everything but Louanna?

I’d also like to bring something up from the Astrea Family Q&A I’ve covered.

You’re telling me when asked who is the most human character in Re:Zero, Tappei brings up Subaru and Heinkel?

This is the story where Sin makes one Human. And I’m supposed to think that Heinkel (who is allegedly not an Authority user) is supposed to match up with Subaru whom is running around with multiple Authorities?

From another meta-perspective, Heinkel’s Arc 5 intro scene mimics Arc 3 Subaru behavior with how he blatantly disregards social nuances of the situation around him and goes ahead pursuing his own mission.

Keep in mind, that same version of Subaru is accused of being the Archbishop of Pride in that very Arc.

This theory would be a deliciously tragic irony in that it’s actually all Heinkel’s own fault his wife is fucked up like this. And the Sword Saint Divine Protection the guy probably desired at some point was always inaccessible by virtue of him simply having been born in a way that the world would deem wrong.

I am aware the Divine Protection could still have gone to Reinhard even if Heinkel didn’t likely have an Authority, however I believe the Protection seems to want to boost the capabilities of it’s user. It’s not exactly doing any boosting with regards to Reinhard.

The Protection imo seems sentient enough where it if it had the option would’ve scuttled off to Heinkel because at the very least it could actually improve something there unlike Reinhard who’d receive it and get 0 benefits which would likely smart at Reid’s Pride if it’s true that guy is inside the DP as the Q&A’s imply.

Heinkel also back then to my knowledge would’ve been somebody with a personality worthy of the Sword Saint role aswell so it’d not be his personality which disqualifies him.

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Wilhelm really out here implying Heinkel should feel some shame asking Theresia to take his place in the Expedition. So ridiculous lmao.

ausmsisinsinsoms- WHUUUUUH???

but what I consider curious is the 'Pride because he scorns the world for not being her' bit. What is coming next is some mental gymnastics. Maybe it is a bit to surface level, but surely if it is his doing that she is in a suspended state, then maybe it is not an effect of a burden being accidentally offloaded onto her but rather an 'intended' application, even if actual execution is not something he actually wished for (similar to how RBD lets Subaru keep trying and living different scenarios between checkpoints until he gets a favorable one (Apparently Witch of Envy updates them based on some milestones???) but like, the actual reality of 'trying till you make it' is in fact, painful and does a lot of harm to Subaru. Basically, I suspect she would have died and Heinkel accidentally activated his authority (without knowing he did it), which can be interpreted as him scorning the world for trying to take her away (thus she is protected by being put in a protective stasis that doesn't let this 'injustice' continue happening; she is kind of kept away from it!); considering the implication it may have been Reinhard's fault in the first place she ended up in the stasis, it may provide further context as to why Rein didn't try to do anything about Heinkel putting Louanna in this state (even on accident) (beyond the fact he may not know how to safely remove the effects). Like, it is his fault and dad is keeping it from getting worse (whatever it was) and says he will be handling it. The question, if we accept an idea Heinkel is causing the Sleeping Beauty state.

p.s. hm, reminds me that the wicked fairy (in versions where she appears, not sure if in all of those), cursed the sleeping beauty because her pride was wounded (she was insulted either by being forgotten or willfully neglected). So kinda fitting if Sleeping Beauty disease would be a Pride thing, huh.

Huh. Your perspective on the suspended animation thing has made me rethink a lot honestly. The Reinhard angle to this does make sense aswell.

Oh. Reinhard calls Heinkel dad? Fuuuuuuuck.

OOP- Heinkel being able to swing at the mention of Louanna & Reinhard is a great way to show how different Heinkel can be for the sake of those 2. Marcos continues to be quite the asshole though I swear given he’s sneering when referring to those 2 when one is literally a coma patient + saying Heinkel made him “sick” even when Heinkel mustered the resolve to swing his sword which was what had disgusted Marcos previously so even when someone overcomes their issue Marcos won’t budge on his stance.

That’s not really answering the question Tappei. Given how Subaru wants to “save” Satella aswell… yeeeeah. This reads Reinhard & Subaru being against each other some day.

Pffft- Felt reaching the big leagues to make Reinhard of all people frightened of her.

Curious how Prideful a statement like this sounds regarding Reinhard’s view on others even if it’s not the typical arrogance angle of Pride I pointed out Reinhard lacks but more the bulwark of belief in one’s capabilities.

That’s interesting. I did know he used it against this Blue Lightning fellow based on some Ex 4 art I saw but for Tappei to consider it a spoiler… hm. Is perhaps Reinhard drawing the Sword against some hypothetical enemy connected to why he gains the Van title & is banned from other countries in the same year he obtains the title?

Curious Tappei introduces the Strongest Character in the story literally as among the Arc 1 cast with that Arc’s importance.

Man really out here liking red of all colors? Meh, that lack of uniqueness fits with how repressed this poor redhead is in general.

I’d love to know why Od Lagna loves Reinhard so very much. I did muse the darned construct made Reinhard for a purpose but it’s quite peculiar man.

His Arc 1 clothing is his “casual clothes” huuuuh?! Good grief, that shit does not look like that Reinhard. The ones I saw him wearing in his family domain match Tappei’s words here though.

Is… that a mistranslation? If that’s not & this is what Tappei directly said that’s a huge ass red flag with Tappei saying that to take in Blessings is connected to Reinhard’s ability to take in “fate” apparently.

Intriguing that Reinhard likes Felt due to the fact he cannot fathom her values.

Even Reinhard’s mistakes aren’t allowed to be “normal” this poor guy.

Huh- that. Y’know what? That makes a bunch of sense actually. Wonder what the hell Heinkel was feeling at the news his Mother is facing the Whale without the Blessing since those events occurred concurrently. Maybe part of what seems to be Guilt he has on behalf of Theresia’s death is him thinking that making Reinhard be born was what got his Mom killed.

More clarification on what Reinhard thinks of his “casual clothes” is neat. Of course this guy wanted fancy looking clothes in Arc 1 to scream his profession. Pretty funny that this clothing choice of his makes Subaru in Arc 1 distinctly think Reinhard is too noble & good looking to be a Knight though.

Hm. Reinhard thinking he’s “shallow” to have Heinkel overridden in his heart is an interesting tidbit with how I’ve been saying Heinkel seems to anchor Reinhard to his individuality aka his humanity.

Uhhh… with how distinctly Earth concepts exist in the Re:Zero world I wonder if this is implying Od Lagna doesn’t understand physics and thus if Subaru went yammering on about that Reinhard theoretically could make a request for a Blessing that takes into account those parameters? If that’s true, thank goodness Subaru has not yapped. Reinhard is already busted enough.

So the sword Heinkel got Reinhard apparently in the Royal Selection From Zero side story seems like it’s the same one here. I wonder what Reinhard’s internal narration was like when Julius was beating Subaru mercilessly if he himself beat up his Father in what was likely a one sided showdown like that disaster Duel was.

So I’ve said Od Lagna had a purpose for Reinhard then Tappei goes ahead saying this?? This is so shady!

Intriguing… I wonder what conversations they had over her bedside quietly between them. This habit becomes so fucked up if Reinhard was actually behind Louanna’s condition like I’ve theorized.

Uhhh… that’s implying Reinhard has inherent Blessings wtf? I thought he asked for them hence the “aquire” bit. Is Tappei referring to the fact Reinhard can call up Od Lagna for another Blessing as a Blessing in & of itself?

The fact Reinhard can even remotely think positively of Priscilla after that Lady threatened him and called Felt a “bitch” in LN 4 is miraculous.

Huh. The lack of a favorite food further makes Reinhard inhuman in even the smaller things. His desire for company as his favorite bit regarding food highlights how Reinhard’s mind restructures typical Social Constructs in a sideways fashion like I’ve pointed out for him to get it the way everybody else does.

Poor Reinhard. He probably wants to suck at something so badly but can’t.

Oh? Is that implying there are certain Blessings that Reinhard cannot get? I wonder if the reason that is due to the fact some Blessings maybe are so attached to the Od of the bearer that they are unrecoverable from their very Soul. It’d kinda create a sort of unique Blessing effect where only certain people’s Od’s can wield certain Blessings.